The testator is Joan Blake, widow of Upton, Hurstbourne Tarrant in Hampshire. In her will she only mentions the children of her daughters.This one also has an interesting inventory.
Names mentioned in the will:
Jone Blake, testator, Upton, Hurstbourne Tarrant
John Salmon, son in law
Dorothy Salmon, daughter
Elizabeth Salmon, grand daughter
John Salmon, grandson
Ann Salmon, grand daughter
John Woollridg, grandson
Francis Woollridg, daughter, executrix
Thomas Woollridge, witness
Thomas Nalder, witness
Francis Nalder, witness, accessor
John Blake, accessor
One of the descendants of Robert Blake (son of Nicholas who left his will in 1547 at Enham) and he was descended of John Blake the Elder and named John living at Upton as he died there before 25 Feb 1605 and his will is to come; he is mentioned by Charlou Dolan:
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2011/02/robert-blake-family-at-knights-enham.html
This John who left his will at Upton is traced down with his children named (by Charlou) as Agnes, Christian, Elizabeth and John.
There is a place called Blakes at Hurstbourne Tarrant and it is a Grade II building.
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-139909-blakes-hurstbourne-tarrant-hampshire
A list I found online listing Blake and a date (will check these out so am saving them to the blog):
http://www.frewin.com/hantprv1/haix_a_c.txt
BLAKE Elizabeth 20 Jul 1795 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE John 15 Aug 1558 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE John 27 Oct 1673 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE John 12 May 1773 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE John.Mr. 21 Jun 1664 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Mary 18 Nov 1775 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Mary 9 May 1785 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Mary 29 Apr 1811 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Mary 9 Apr 1780 HURSTBOURNE PRIORS
BLAKE Peter 24 Jun 1677 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Sarah 14 Nov 1607 HURSTBOURNE PRIORS
BLAKE Sarah 18 Jan 1787 HURSTBOURNE PRIORS
BLAKE Thomas 19 Oct 1601 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Thomas 22 Dec 1806 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE Thomas 12 May 1756 HURSTBOURNE PRIORS
BLAKE Thomas 12 Jun 1780 HURSTBOURNE PRIORS
BLAKE Thomas 29 May 1784 HURSTBOURNE PRIORS
BLAKE William 9 May 1749 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
BLAKE William 19 Jul 1779 HURSTBOURNE TARRANT
This is the Frewin/Frewen/Fruin/Fruen Website and is a collection of material for this family. I could not find the header page for the above information as I just discovered that you can not see the source code for a page in Firefox.
Checking Family Search, Find My Past and no sign of the Salmon family with Dorothy as mother. I will wait for more wills to be blogged in the Upton area.
Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 31 Jan 2014
Source: Hampshire Record Office, 1696A-014
Testator: Jone Blake
Place: Upton, Hurstbourne Tarrant, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 29 Jan 1690, probated 13 May 1696
Condition: 17th century English, legible copy
[Margin]: 1696A-014
1 In the name of god Amen the nine and Twentith day of January
2 In The yeare of our lord god one Thousand Six hundred and
3 nintie I Jone Blake of Upton in the parish of Husborn Tarrant
4 in the County of South[ampto]n of sound and perfect memory thankes
5 to allmigty god for the same doe make and constitute this my
6 Last will and Testament in maner and forme following that is
7 To say First and principally I comitt my soul unto
8 Allmighty god my mercyfull Creator hopeing for for mercy
9 and pardon for my sines and eternall life through the merits of
10 Jesus Christ my Blessed Saviour and Redeemer and my Body to
11 The Earth from whenc it was Taken and to be buried in such A decent
12 and Christian like maner as to my executo[r]s hereafter named
13 Shall be thought fit and convenient And as for such wordly Estat
14 which the Lord in mercy have Lent me my will and meaning is this
15 Should be impleyed and bestowed as here in this my Last Will and
16 Testament is expressed Item I give unto John Salmon my
17 sonn in law one Shilling It[e]m I give unto John Salmon wife
18 That is my daughter Dorithy one Shilling Item I give unto
19 John Salmons daughter Elizabeth my grand Child
20 Five Shillings Item I give unto John Salmon and Ann Salmon my
21 grand Children one Shilling A peece It[e]m I give unto John
22 Woollridg my grand Child my Bigest Bras pot and one Flagon,
23 and all the Rest of my goodes and Chattells whatsoe ever I
24 give unto my daughter Francis Woollridg whom I make my
25 Sole Executrix of this my Last will and Testament
26 In witness where of I have hereunto sett my hand
27 and Seall The day and yeare Above written
28 Jone Blake
29 S
30 her mark
31 Thomas Woollridg
32 Francis Nalder N his marke
33 Thomas Nalder
34 13 May 1696
35 Jurat Joh[ann]es Wooldridge
36 _____ Executricij
37 Coram ____ Tho: Claverbuck
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38 A True and perfect Inventary of all ye goods
39 and Chattells Moveable and UnMoveable of Joan
40 Blake late dec[ease]d of Upton in ye parish of
41 Husburne Tarrant in the County of South[amp]ton
43 Widdow made ye Fifth day of Aprill anno domini
44 1696 as followeth
45 Imprimis all her wearing apparel
46 and p[re]sent Money 01 10 00
47 Item in ye deceased Chamber one bed
48 bed stead and all other furniture 04 11 6
49 belonging w[i]th 3 coffers and 1 Box
50 Item in ye hall 1 Table Board 1 Cupboard
51 3 Chairs 1 forme 1 Iron spit 2 andirons 00 14 06
52 1 Toasting iron w[i]th other Lumber
53 Item in ye Kitching is disher of Pewter
54 1 Flaggon 2 potts 1 Kettle 1 Skillett 01 09 06
55 and a Furnace of Brass
56 Item in ye Chamber over ye Kitching
57 one boil and low bedstead with all 01 10 00
58 furniture belonging to itt
59 Item in ye Buttery 2 Barrells 2 kivers 00 16 00
60 2 Table and other lumber
61 Item 1 great Bible book w[i]th all other 00 03 06
62 odd lumber Whatsoever
63 The Whole sum is 10 15 00
64
65 Francis Nallder
66 John Blake
Friday, January 31, 2014
Will of Robert Blake of Andover, Hampshire - The Hampshire Record Office 1678A-10, probated 24 Dec 1678
Robert Blake of Andover is the Testator. He was possibly buried at Andover although does ask to be buried at Knights Enham. The burial in the Andover Parish Register was 7 October 1678. He was buried in woolen and referred to as Mr Robert Blake. He mentions a son John but there wasn’t a John baptized to Robert Blake at Andover in this time frame. The only John is baptized by William Blake.
There are children baptized by a Mr Edward Blake (a brother Edward was mentioned in the will below) at Andover (and his wife was Margery with children John, Peter, Mary). Edward was buried 15 Mar 1653 (and he was of Charlton) and Robert speaks of his son as being under 21 at the time of writing of his will. Was this Robert Blake young (ie under 40)?
I have not done very much work on the Robert Blake line as most of it was prepared by Charlou Dolan and blogged by me earlier (I am still in the process of verifying dates with the Andover Register):
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2011/02/robert-blake-family-at-knights-enham.html
Names mentioned in the will
Robert Blake, gent, Andover, testator
Hester Blake, wife of Robert the testator
John Francis, land owner
John Blake, son of testator, under 21 years possibly as not 21 when will was written
James Blake, second son of testator’s brother Edward
Edward Blake, brother of testator, deceased
William Goodale, land owner
William Beare, land owner
Richard Dennett, land owner
John Linlay, land owner
Robert Blake, son of the testator’s brother Richard
Richard Blake, brother of testator
Joane Blake, niece, goddaughter of testator, sister of Robert (daughter of Richard)
Mary Blake, niece, sister of Robert (daughter of Richard)
Francis Lap
Mrs Abagail Blake, sister in law of testator
Mr John Taylor, brother in law of testator
Mrs Sara Taylor, wife of John Taylor
Mr Edward Pile, cousin of testatorm overseer
Mr John Taylor, father in law of testator, overseer
Samuel Spring, witness
Gabriell Hancocke, witness
George Potticary, witness
Peter Bankes, witness
Ann Holdway, witness
Thomas Feilder, accessor
Richard Butcher, accessor
Mr Edward Blake who was buried in 1653 lived at Foxcott (near Charlton and often Charlton is considered part of Foxcott and the testator mentions Charleton). I have three baptisms for Edward and Margery’s children at Andover: John baptized 19 Sep 1630, Peter baptized 25 Jun 1632 and Mary baptized 19 Mar 1633. The testator names brothers Edward and Richard. I need to do a little work on separating out the families at Andover in this time period but will read the other wills that I have for this time period first. Interestingly there is a baptism for John Blake son of Robert and Esther Blake 2 Jun 1668 at Devizes St Mary in Wiltshire.
That thought reminded me that I have been through this thinking pattern before and it is the will of Hester Blake, widow, living at Winchester who left her will which was probated 5 Oct 1689. She remembers family members in her will by the name of Taylor but does not mention her father John Taylor who is perhaps deceased but does mention her uncle William Taylor living at Eaton Wiltshire.
Hester’s will was blogged:
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2012/10/will-of-hester-blake-widow-winton.html
Thus John (son of the testator) has survived at least to 1689. I do not believe this is my ancestor who married by 1683 to Elizabeth (unknown) and I have not yet found their marriage. Their first son was John who died as an infant in 1683. In total they had eleven children but did not name even one Robert or one Hester. Although it is fascinating finding this will with an elusive John Blake who was in the right time frame I am confident that he is not my ancestor.
Would Robert and Hester have married at Devizes where there was a John baptized in 1668 (he would have been 21 when his mother died? Her aunt lived at Bromham which is just 3 miles from Devizes. Working on the other Blake wills at Andover may help to put this Robert Blake line together.
The inventory is very interesting and I have blogged it as well.
Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 30 Jan 2014
Source: Hampshire Record Office, 1678A-10
Testator: Robert Blake
Place: Andover, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 19 Sep 1678, probated 24 Dec 1678
Condition: 17th century English, legible copy
[Margin]: 1678A-10
1 The Nineteenth day of Septemb[e]r in the yeere of o[u]r Lord One Thousand Sixe hundred Seventy and Eight
2 I Robert Blake of Andever in the County of South[amp]ton gent being sick and weake in body but of sound
3 and perfect mind and good memory (praised be my God) revoking all former Wills and Testam[ent]ts
4 doe make and ordine this my last Will and Testament in manner and forme following
5 First and before all World respects I com[m]end my Soule to God my heavenly father that gave
6 it Who of his free grace and exceeding riches of his love hath redeemed it by the blood of his onely
7 son my Saviour o[u]r Lord Jesus Christ and my body to be decently interred in the Church of
8 Knights Enham at the discretion of my executrix hereaft[e]r named to rest in assured hope to be partaker of the
9 resurrection of the Just And as concerning those goods and worldly estate w[hi]ch it hath pleased God
10 of his abundant goodness to blesse me w[i]thall I give and bestow the same in manner and forme
11 following Inprimis I give unto the poore of the Tithing of Charleton in the parish of Andover
12 aforesaid the som[m]e of Five pounds Twenty Shillings whereof to be distributed amongst them
13 at or shortly after the time of my Funerall and th[e]oth[e]r Foure pounds w[i]thin the space of One
14 yeere then next ensuing at Foure quarterly payments to be distributed amongst them at the
15 discretion of my executrix Item I give to the poore of the Borough of Andever Forty Shillings
16 to be distributed amongst them in bread at or neere the time of my Funerall at the discretion
17 of my executrix Item I give unto such preacher as shall preach my fun[er]all sermon Twenty
18 Shillings Item whereas I have formerly made a Conveyance and settlement of my lands
19 lying in Charleton aforesaid w[hi[ch] were heretyfore purchased of one John Francis unto div[er]se uses
20 herein conteined and expressed the Remainder thereof unto me my heires and assignes Now my
21 Will and meaning is that if John my onely child shall happen to decease before his age of Twenty
22 and One yeeres or marriage Then in such case I give devise and bequeath the same lands and
23 all my estate therein after my Wyves life unto James Blake (second son of my brother Edward
24 Blake deceased) his heires and assignes for ever Whereas I am seised of an estate of
25 inheritance in Fee simple of and in certeine lands lying in Charleton aforesaid being reputed to be
26 a yardlandslying in Charleton aforesaid com[m]only called by the name of Crookebeggs being
27 heretofore the lands of the Lord Sandys and also of and in certain other lands lying in Charlton
28 aforesaid w[hi]ch I have lately purchased of William Goodale William Beare Richard Dennett and John
29 Linelay I give devise and bequeath the same lands unto my son John To have and to Hold unto him
30 and to the heires of his body lawfully to be begotten But in case my son John shall happen to
31 decease before his age of Twenty and one yeeres or marriage Then in such case I give and
32 bequeath the same lands unto Hester my welbeloved wife for and during soe long time as she shall
33 live sole and unmarried And after her marriage or decease I give and devise the same unto
34 Robert Blake (son of my broth[e]r Richard Blake) his heires and assignes for ever Provided allwayes and my
35 Will and meaning is that in case the same lands shall happen to come unto the said Robert Blake
36 That then he the said Robert Blake shall w[i]thin the space of Sixe yeeres then next ensuing paye
37 unto Joane Blake my Goddaughter and sist[e]r of him the said Robert the som[m]e of One hundred pounds
38 in case she shalbe then living And in case she shalbe then dead Then my Will is that the same One
39 hundred pounds be paid unto Mary another sist[e]r of the said Robert in case she be then living And
40 my Will is that my said lands shalbe chargable and liable to the payment thereof unto them as it
41 shall happen Item I give and bequeath unto the said Joane Blake Five pounds to be paid unto
43 her at her age of Twenty and One yeeres or day of marriage w[hi]ch shall first happen the same to
44 be paid of out of such moneys as her father oweth unto me in case the same shalbe received by my
45 executrix or my son John from him the said Richard Blake her father and not otherwise to be
46 paid unto her Item I give and bequeath unto my Wife Hester the som[m]e of Two hundred pounds
47 All the rest and residuye of moneys and debts whatsoever due and owing unto me on Mortgage
48 Bonds Bills penalties or by Booke Contract or otherwise howsoever together w[i]th the whole advantange
49 benefit to be made of them or any of them for or by reason of any forfeiture or forfeitures of
[signed with Robert Blake’s signature at the bottom of first page] Robert Blake
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50 them or any of them in land or money or elsewise howsoever [obliterated]
51 chamber in Lincolnes Inne w[hi]ch I purchased of and from Francis Lap Esq[uie]r (my debts legacies
52 and funeral expencs out of the same being deducted dischardged paid) I give and bequeath
53 the same unto my son John To have and to hold unto him his heires executo[r]s administrato[r]s and
54 assignes for ever Whom I charge as the Words of a tender and loving father that as he may
55 expect the blessing of God on him and his to be obedient and dutifull unto his mother and
56 to hearken as well unto her Counsell admonition and advice as also of my Overseers
57 hereinafter named Provided all ways and my Will and meaning is that my Wife shall have the disposal
58 ordering and management in trust of all my estate aswell reall as personal herein
59 before by me given and bequeathed unto my son until such time as he shall accomplish
60 his age of Twenty and One yeeres in case she shall live soe long sole and unmarried
61 But in case she shall happen to marry Then my Will is that my son shall have the benefit
62 and the management and disposal thereof and my Wife and such second husband not to have
63 any intermeddling therew[i]th And my Will and meaning is that in eyther case my Wife
64 shalbe accomptable unto my son of such profit benefit and advantage as she shall make
65 receive and have during such her ordering disposal and management thereof she being
66 allowed and deducting and defalking out of the same all such reasonable charges expences
67 and disbursements w[hi]ch she shalbe putt onto aswell in and about the maintenance education
68 and bringing up of my son (whom I would have to be brought up in learning and in such manner
69 as my Wife shalbe thereonto advised by my Overseers hereaft[e]r named) as also in and about the
70 execution of my Trust in her reposed as aforesaid And in case my son shall happen to decease
71 before his age of Twenty and One yeeres or marriage Then all my debts personal estate and
72 benyfitt of my Mortgage herein before bequeathed unto him shall remayne unto my executrix I make
73 and ordeine my Wife to be the sole executrix of this my last Will and Testament And my Will is
74 that mourning rings shalbe given by her unto Mrs Abigail Blake my sist[e]r in law Mr John Taylor arm and unto
75 his wife Mr Richard Blake my brother and Mrs Sara Taylor my sist[e]r in law And I intreat my loving Cousin
76 Mr Edward Pile and my loving father in law Mr John Taylor theld[e]r to be Overseers of this my last
77 Will and Testament intreating them to be ayding and assisting unto my executrix in the performance of the same
78 And I give unto each of them as alsoe unto the Wife of my said Cousin Pile a mourning ring to weare in
79 remembrance of me In Wittnes Whereof I have to this my Will conteyning Two sheets of paper
80 subscribed my name to the first sheete and to the last sheete sett my hand and seale and declared the
81 same to be my last Will and Testament the day and yeere abovewritten
82 Robert Blake
83 Signed sealed and declared in the p[re]sence of Samuel Spring Gabriell Hancocke George Potticary Peter Bankes Ann (the marke of) X Holdway
84 Vicesimo quarto die mensis Decembris Anno d[omi]ni 1678
85 Probatum fuit humoi testamentum in commisa forma coram
86 venti viro Waltera Darell Sacre Theologie Professore Archi[diaco]no
87 Archinatus Winton[iensis] Comissa adue Executrici in humoi Testament
88 nominat etc de bene etc deg solvenda debita et legata etc
Jurat p[er]sonata juxta etc Salvo ___ __________
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89 A true and perfect Inventory
90 of all and Singuler the goods and Chattalls
91 of Robert Blake late of Andover in the
92 County of South[amp]ton gent deceased
93 taken and appraised the thirtieth
94 day of October in the yeere of o[u] Lord
95 1678 by us Thomas Feilder and Richard
96 Butcher whose names are under
97 written as followeth
98 I £ s d
99 Impris His Wearing appareill his Watch and Goldring x 0 0
100 In the Kitchin
101 Item One long Table board and Frame
102 One little Table board and Frame
103 One Bacon Rack One trancher
104 Rack Five Joynd Stooles Foure
105 Wooden Chaires One
106 Cupboard and Iron Jack one
107 Iron bonk one paire of greate xi xv __
108 Andirons one paire of little
109 Andirons one paire of Tongs
110 One Fire pan One Fender
111 Three Broaches Two dripping
112 pans One paire of Bellowes
113 One Screene and other small utensills
114 In the Studdy
115 Item One deskbord and Bookes and Shelves v 0 0
116 In the parlour
117 Item One Table board and Frame one
118 little Table board and Frame one
119 dozen of Red leather chaires
120 One paire of Brasse Andirons iiij iiij __
121 One Fire pan and tongs One little
122 paire of brasse Andirons Two
123 Red Courpotts and two red Window
124 Curtaines
125 In the pantrey
126 Item One Safe one little Table board
127 One Meals Tubb and Flower 0 x 0
128 Tubb One little chaire one little
129 Stoole and Frying pan and other
130 Small utensills
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131 In the Celler
132 Item Seaven Barrells One
133 powdering Tubb Three
134 Tubbs one Silt Two kivers j vj viij
135 one Meshingvate one Tin
136 boile Four Woodden Horses
137 and other Small utensills
138 In the Great Chamb[e]r
139 Item One Standing Bedsteed with
140 Cord and Matt one Feather bed
141 one Feather Bolster Two
142 downe pillows one white
143 Rugge One Counter paine
144 and paire of Blancketts with
145 curtaines and veileants Sixe xxvj viiij ij
146 Wrought Chaires Two
147 Wrought Stooles One Couch
148 Two little side Table boards
149 One paire of Brasse Andirons
150 One Brasse Fire pan one
151 paire of Brasse Tongs Two
152 looking Glasses One Frame
153 with escutcheons and Armes
154 wrought in needleworke
155 In the Little Chamber next to the greate Chamber
156 Item One Standing Bedsteed with
157 Cord and Matt one Feather bed
158 One Feather Bolster Two
159 Feather Pillowes One rugge
160 One paire of Blancketts One v xiiij iiij
161 Joynd Presse and One paire of
162 Curteines and Veilants
163 In the Chamber over the Parlour and in the Maides Chamber
164 Item One Standing Bedsteed with
165 Cord and Matt Curtaines
166 veilants rods and one Feather Bed and
167 Bolster Two Feather Pillowes
168 and rugge Two Blanketts One
169 Chest of drawers Three
170 Trunkes One wicker Chaire and three xij vij __
171 other chaires and one looking Glasse
172 One low Bedsteed Two Feather Beds
173 Two Feather Bolsters Two Feather
174 Pillowes Two ruggs Two paire of
175 Blancketts and other small utensills
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176 Item In plate xij 0 0
177 Item In Linnen x 0 0
178 Item In Pewter vij x 0
179 Item In Brasse ij x 0
180 Item One Horse with Saddle and Bridle ij x 0
181 In the Backside
182 Item In Wood x 0 0
183 Item In Hay iij 0 0
184 Item Corne in the Barne iij 0 0
185 Item Two Stockes of Bees 0 xij 0
186 Item A Bedsteed and Bedding at his
187 Chamb[e]r in Lincolns Inne ij x 0
188 Item In Spereits debts and upon
189 Bonds Bills Mortgages and other d 0 0
190 Specilties
191 The somme of this Inventory comes to dcxxi xvij v
192 In desperate debts cl 0 0
193 Item for things forgotten iij 0 0
194 Thomas Feilder
195 Richard Butcher
196 Sum total 775 18 8
197
There are children baptized by a Mr Edward Blake (a brother Edward was mentioned in the will below) at Andover (and his wife was Margery with children John, Peter, Mary). Edward was buried 15 Mar 1653 (and he was of Charlton) and Robert speaks of his son as being under 21 at the time of writing of his will. Was this Robert Blake young (ie under 40)?
I have not done very much work on the Robert Blake line as most of it was prepared by Charlou Dolan and blogged by me earlier (I am still in the process of verifying dates with the Andover Register):
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2011/02/robert-blake-family-at-knights-enham.html
Names mentioned in the will
Robert Blake, gent, Andover, testator
Hester Blake, wife of Robert the testator
John Francis, land owner
John Blake, son of testator, under 21 years possibly as not 21 when will was written
James Blake, second son of testator’s brother Edward
Edward Blake, brother of testator, deceased
William Goodale, land owner
William Beare, land owner
Richard Dennett, land owner
John Linlay, land owner
Robert Blake, son of the testator’s brother Richard
Richard Blake, brother of testator
Joane Blake, niece, goddaughter of testator, sister of Robert (daughter of Richard)
Mary Blake, niece, sister of Robert (daughter of Richard)
Francis Lap
Mrs Abagail Blake, sister in law of testator
Mr John Taylor, brother in law of testator
Mrs Sara Taylor, wife of John Taylor
Mr Edward Pile, cousin of testatorm overseer
Mr John Taylor, father in law of testator, overseer
Samuel Spring, witness
Gabriell Hancocke, witness
George Potticary, witness
Peter Bankes, witness
Ann Holdway, witness
Thomas Feilder, accessor
Richard Butcher, accessor
Mr Edward Blake who was buried in 1653 lived at Foxcott (near Charlton and often Charlton is considered part of Foxcott and the testator mentions Charleton). I have three baptisms for Edward and Margery’s children at Andover: John baptized 19 Sep 1630, Peter baptized 25 Jun 1632 and Mary baptized 19 Mar 1633. The testator names brothers Edward and Richard. I need to do a little work on separating out the families at Andover in this time period but will read the other wills that I have for this time period first. Interestingly there is a baptism for John Blake son of Robert and Esther Blake 2 Jun 1668 at Devizes St Mary in Wiltshire.
That thought reminded me that I have been through this thinking pattern before and it is the will of Hester Blake, widow, living at Winchester who left her will which was probated 5 Oct 1689. She remembers family members in her will by the name of Taylor but does not mention her father John Taylor who is perhaps deceased but does mention her uncle William Taylor living at Eaton Wiltshire.
Hester’s will was blogged:
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2012/10/will-of-hester-blake-widow-winton.html
Thus John (son of the testator) has survived at least to 1689. I do not believe this is my ancestor who married by 1683 to Elizabeth (unknown) and I have not yet found their marriage. Their first son was John who died as an infant in 1683. In total they had eleven children but did not name even one Robert or one Hester. Although it is fascinating finding this will with an elusive John Blake who was in the right time frame I am confident that he is not my ancestor.
Would Robert and Hester have married at Devizes where there was a John baptized in 1668 (he would have been 21 when his mother died? Her aunt lived at Bromham which is just 3 miles from Devizes. Working on the other Blake wills at Andover may help to put this Robert Blake line together.
The inventory is very interesting and I have blogged it as well.
Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 30 Jan 2014
Source: Hampshire Record Office, 1678A-10
Testator: Robert Blake
Place: Andover, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 19 Sep 1678, probated 24 Dec 1678
Condition: 17th century English, legible copy
[Margin]: 1678A-10
1 The Nineteenth day of Septemb[e]r in the yeere of o[u]r Lord One Thousand Sixe hundred Seventy and Eight
2 I Robert Blake of Andever in the County of South[amp]ton gent being sick and weake in body but of sound
3 and perfect mind and good memory (praised be my God) revoking all former Wills and Testam[ent]ts
4 doe make and ordine this my last Will and Testament in manner and forme following
5 First and before all World respects I com[m]end my Soule to God my heavenly father that gave
6 it Who of his free grace and exceeding riches of his love hath redeemed it by the blood of his onely
7 son my Saviour o[u]r Lord Jesus Christ and my body to be decently interred in the Church of
8 Knights Enham at the discretion of my executrix hereaft[e]r named to rest in assured hope to be partaker of the
9 resurrection of the Just And as concerning those goods and worldly estate w[hi]ch it hath pleased God
10 of his abundant goodness to blesse me w[i]thall I give and bestow the same in manner and forme
11 following Inprimis I give unto the poore of the Tithing of Charleton in the parish of Andover
12 aforesaid the som[m]e of Five pounds Twenty Shillings whereof to be distributed amongst them
13 at or shortly after the time of my Funerall and th[e]oth[e]r Foure pounds w[i]thin the space of One
14 yeere then next ensuing at Foure quarterly payments to be distributed amongst them at the
15 discretion of my executrix Item I give to the poore of the Borough of Andever Forty Shillings
16 to be distributed amongst them in bread at or neere the time of my Funerall at the discretion
17 of my executrix Item I give unto such preacher as shall preach my fun[er]all sermon Twenty
18 Shillings Item whereas I have formerly made a Conveyance and settlement of my lands
19 lying in Charleton aforesaid w[hi[ch] were heretyfore purchased of one John Francis unto div[er]se uses
20 herein conteined and expressed the Remainder thereof unto me my heires and assignes Now my
21 Will and meaning is that if John my onely child shall happen to decease before his age of Twenty
22 and One yeeres or marriage Then in such case I give devise and bequeath the same lands and
23 all my estate therein after my Wyves life unto James Blake (second son of my brother Edward
24 Blake deceased) his heires and assignes for ever Whereas I am seised of an estate of
25 inheritance in Fee simple of and in certeine lands lying in Charleton aforesaid being reputed to be
26 a yardlands
27 heretofore the lands of the Lord Sandys and also of and in certain other lands lying in Charlton
28 aforesaid w[hi]ch I have lately purchased of William Goodale William Beare Richard Dennett and John
29 Linelay I give devise and bequeath the same lands unto my son John To have and to Hold unto him
30 and to the heires of his body lawfully to be begotten But in case my son John shall happen to
31 decease before his age of Twenty and one yeeres or marriage Then in such case I give and
32 bequeath the same lands unto Hester my welbeloved wife for and during soe long time as she shall
33 live sole and unmarried And after her marriage or decease I give and devise the same unto
34 Robert Blake (son of my broth[e]r Richard Blake) his heires and assignes for ever Provided allwayes and my
35 Will and meaning is that in case the same lands shall happen to come unto the said Robert Blake
36 That then he the said Robert Blake shall w[i]thin the space of Sixe yeeres then next ensuing paye
37 unto Joane Blake my Goddaughter and sist[e]r of him the said Robert the som[m]e of One hundred pounds
38 in case she shalbe then living And in case she shalbe then dead Then my Will is that the same One
39 hundred pounds be paid unto Mary another sist[e]r of the said Robert in case she be then living And
40 my Will is that my said lands shalbe chargable and liable to the payment thereof unto them as it
41 shall happen Item I give and bequeath unto the said Joane Blake Five pounds to be paid unto
43 her at her age of Twenty and One yeeres or day of marriage w[hi]ch shall first happen the same to
44 be paid of out of such moneys as her father oweth unto me in case the same shalbe received by my
45 executrix or my son John from him the said Richard Blake her father and not otherwise to be
46 paid unto her Item I give and bequeath unto my Wife Hester the som[m]e of Two hundred pounds
47 All the rest and residuye of moneys and debts whatsoever due and owing unto me on Mortgage
48 Bonds Bills penalties or by Booke Contract or otherwise howsoever together w[i]th the whole advantange
49 benefit to be made of them or any of them for or by reason of any forfeiture or forfeitures of
[signed with Robert Blake’s signature at the bottom of first page] Robert Blake
[Page 2]
50 them or any of them in land or money or elsewise howsoever [obliterated]
51 chamber in Lincolnes Inne w[hi]ch I purchased of and from Francis Lap Esq[uie]r (my debts legacies
52 and funeral expencs out of the same being deducted dischardged paid) I give and bequeath
53 the same unto my son John To have and to hold unto him his heires executo[r]s administrato[r]s and
54 assignes for ever Whom I charge as the Words of a tender and loving father that as he may
55 expect the blessing of God on him and his to be obedient and dutifull unto his mother and
56 to hearken as well unto her Counsell admonition and advice as also of my Overseers
57 hereinafter named Provided all ways and my Will and meaning is that my Wife shall have the disposal
58 ordering and management in trust of all my estate aswell reall as personal herein
59 before by me given and bequeathed unto my son until such time as he shall accomplish
60 his age of Twenty and One yeeres in case she shall live soe long sole and unmarried
61 But in case she shall happen to marry Then my Will is that my son shall have the benefit
62 and the management and disposal thereof and my Wife and such second husband not to have
63 any intermeddling therew[i]th And my Will and meaning is that in eyther case my Wife
64 shalbe accomptable unto my son of such profit benefit and advantage as she shall make
65 receive and have during such her ordering disposal and management thereof she being
66 allowed and deducting and defalking out of the same all such reasonable charges expences
67 and disbursements w[hi]ch she shalbe putt onto aswell in and about the maintenance education
68 and bringing up of my son (whom I would have to be brought up in learning and in such manner
69 as my Wife shalbe thereonto advised by my Overseers hereaft[e]r named) as also in and about the
70 execution of my Trust in her reposed as aforesaid And in case my son shall happen to decease
71 before his age of Twenty and One yeeres or marriage Then all my debts personal estate and
72 benyfitt of my Mortgage herein before bequeathed unto him shall remayne unto my executrix I make
73 and ordeine my Wife to be the sole executrix of this my last Will and Testament And my Will is
74 that mourning rings shalbe given by her unto Mrs Abigail Blake my sist[e]r in law Mr John Taylor arm and unto
75 his wife Mr Richard Blake my brother and Mrs Sara Taylor my sist[e]r in law And I intreat my loving Cousin
76 Mr Edward Pile and my loving father in law Mr John Taylor theld[e]r to be Overseers of this my last
77 Will and Testament intreating them to be ayding and assisting unto my executrix in the performance of the same
78 And I give unto each of them as alsoe unto the Wife of my said Cousin Pile a mourning ring to weare in
79 remembrance of me In Wittnes Whereof I have to this my Will conteyning Two sheets of paper
80 subscribed my name to the first sheete and to the last sheete sett my hand and seale and declared the
81 same to be my last Will and Testament the day and yeere abovewritten
82 Robert Blake
83 Signed sealed and declared in the p[re]sence of Samuel Spring Gabriell Hancocke George Potticary Peter Bankes Ann (the marke of) X Holdway
84 Vicesimo quarto die mensis Decembris Anno d[omi]ni 1678
85 Probatum fuit humoi testamentum in commisa forma coram
86 venti viro Waltera Darell Sacre Theologie Professore Archi[diaco]no
87 Archinatus Winton[iensis] Comissa adue Executrici in humoi Testament
88 nominat etc de bene etc deg solvenda debita et legata etc
Jurat p[er]sonata juxta etc Salvo ___ __________
[Page 3]
89 A true and perfect Inventory
90 of all and Singuler the goods and Chattalls
91 of Robert Blake late of Andover in the
92 County of South[amp]ton gent deceased
93 taken and appraised the thirtieth
94 day of October in the yeere of o[u] Lord
95 1678 by us Thomas Feilder and Richard
96 Butcher whose names are under
97 written as followeth
98 I £ s d
99 Impris His Wearing appareill his Watch and Goldring x 0 0
100 In the Kitchin
101 Item One long Table board and Frame
102 One little Table board and Frame
103 One Bacon Rack One trancher
104 Rack Five Joynd Stooles Foure
105 Wooden Chaires One
106 Cupboard and Iron Jack one
107 Iron bonk one paire of greate xi xv __
108 Andirons one paire of little
109 Andirons one paire of Tongs
110 One Fire pan One Fender
111 Three Broaches Two dripping
112 pans One paire of Bellowes
113 One Screene and other small utensills
114 In the Studdy
115 Item One deskbord and Bookes and Shelves v 0 0
116 In the parlour
117 Item One Table board and Frame one
118 little Table board and Frame one
119 dozen of Red leather chaires
120 One paire of Brasse Andirons iiij iiij __
121 One Fire pan and tongs One little
122 paire of brasse Andirons Two
123 Red Courpotts and two red Window
124 Curtaines
125 In the pantrey
126 Item One Safe one little Table board
127 One Meals Tubb and Flower 0 x 0
128 Tubb One little chaire one little
129 Stoole and Frying pan and other
130 Small utensills
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131 In the Celler
132 Item Seaven Barrells One
133 powdering Tubb Three
134 Tubbs one Silt Two kivers j vj viij
135 one Meshingvate one Tin
136 boile Four Woodden Horses
137 and other Small utensills
138 In the Great Chamb[e]r
139 Item One Standing Bedsteed with
140 Cord and Matt one Feather bed
141 one Feather Bolster Two
142 downe pillows one white
143 Rugge One Counter paine
144 and paire of Blancketts with
145 curtaines and veileants Sixe xxvj viiij ij
146 Wrought Chaires Two
147 Wrought Stooles One Couch
148 Two little side Table boards
149 One paire of Brasse Andirons
150 One Brasse Fire pan one
151 paire of Brasse Tongs Two
152 looking Glasses One Frame
153 with escutcheons and Armes
154 wrought in needleworke
155 In the Little Chamber next to the greate Chamber
156 Item One Standing Bedsteed with
157 Cord and Matt one Feather bed
158 One Feather Bolster Two
159 Feather Pillowes One rugge
160 One paire of Blancketts One v xiiij iiij
161 Joynd Presse and One paire of
162 Curteines and Veilants
163 In the Chamber over the Parlour and in the Maides Chamber
164 Item One Standing Bedsteed with
165 Cord and Matt Curtaines
166 veilants rods and one Feather Bed and
167 Bolster Two Feather Pillowes
168 and rugge Two Blanketts One
169 Chest of drawers Three
170 Trunkes One wicker Chaire and three xij vij __
171 other chaires and one looking Glasse
172 One low Bedsteed Two Feather Beds
173 Two Feather Bolsters Two Feather
174 Pillowes Two ruggs Two paire of
175 Blancketts and other small utensills
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176 Item In plate xij 0 0
177 Item In Linnen x 0 0
178 Item In Pewter vij x 0
179 Item In Brasse ij x 0
180 Item One Horse with Saddle and Bridle ij x 0
181 In the Backside
182 Item In Wood x 0 0
183 Item In Hay iij 0 0
184 Item Corne in the Barne iij 0 0
185 Item Two Stockes of Bees 0 xij 0
186 Item A Bedsteed and Bedding at his
187 Chamb[e]r in Lincolns Inne ij x 0
188 Item In Spereits debts and upon
189 Bonds Bills Mortgages and other d 0 0
190 Specilties
191 The somme of this Inventory comes to dcxxi xvij v
192 In desperate debts cl 0 0
193 Item for things forgotten iij 0 0
194 Thomas Feilder
195 Richard Butcher
196 Sum total 775 18 8
197
Thursday, January 30, 2014
Robert Blake of Andover, will dated 19 Sep 1678
The next will is that of Robert Blake of Andover and one of my Christmas presents. My I did not think it would be the end of January before I got to these. The work on the Routledge papers took me a little longer than I predicted and I am still working on those as well. I shall try to do one of them a day starting today.
It is unusual for me to do work that I do not blog but Thomas Routledge is much more knowledgeable on the Routledge family than I am and this is an opportunity to put together a history of this family from the earliest known times to the present. The publication of such a family history is essential to the understanding of this family for which much family lore exists but nothing written down thus far to collect all of the factual information and the family lore that went along with it.
Robert Blake of Andover leaving his will in 1678 has always been an interest of mine. I was given the opinion by other Blake researchers that I should look to the Robert Blake line at Andover as the likely ancestor of my Blake line and I have meant to look at these wills ever since. I did trace my line down from Nicholas and that does appear to be the best fit but I am always on the lookout for more information. In reality Nicholas and Robert were brothers and so the ancestral line back is ultimately the same. The fortunes of these two brothers were quite similar so not a great deal of difference in terms of tracing them both forwards and backwards.
Perhaps later today I will have accomplished this will and will post it but if not tomorrow. It is a two page will (A5) and three pages of Inventory so will make interesting reading. I have not yet read it but decided to do my usual of working through the will line by line trying to understand each line and any one mentioned in it. I generally check Family Search as I read through names as the resultant list of names is excellent and suits my purpose although I do subscribe to Find My Past, Ancestry and My Heritage. Having these three valuable sources at my fingertips is handy but Family Search was my first tool and it continues to improve rapidly. Would I pay to use it if it became a paid service? Absolutely, the sets of images that they have put up are of pristine quality.
More later in this post as I discover details about Robert Blake at Andover leaving his will in 1678 and the entire will later today or tomorrow.
It is unusual for me to do work that I do not blog but Thomas Routledge is much more knowledgeable on the Routledge family than I am and this is an opportunity to put together a history of this family from the earliest known times to the present. The publication of such a family history is essential to the understanding of this family for which much family lore exists but nothing written down thus far to collect all of the factual information and the family lore that went along with it.
Robert Blake of Andover leaving his will in 1678 has always been an interest of mine. I was given the opinion by other Blake researchers that I should look to the Robert Blake line at Andover as the likely ancestor of my Blake line and I have meant to look at these wills ever since. I did trace my line down from Nicholas and that does appear to be the best fit but I am always on the lookout for more information. In reality Nicholas and Robert were brothers and so the ancestral line back is ultimately the same. The fortunes of these two brothers were quite similar so not a great deal of difference in terms of tracing them both forwards and backwards.
Perhaps later today I will have accomplished this will and will post it but if not tomorrow. It is a two page will (A5) and three pages of Inventory so will make interesting reading. I have not yet read it but decided to do my usual of working through the will line by line trying to understand each line and any one mentioned in it. I generally check Family Search as I read through names as the resultant list of names is excellent and suits my purpose although I do subscribe to Find My Past, Ancestry and My Heritage. Having these three valuable sources at my fingertips is handy but Family Search was my first tool and it continues to improve rapidly. Would I pay to use it if it became a paid service? Absolutely, the sets of images that they have put up are of pristine quality.
More later in this post as I discover details about Robert Blake at Andover leaving his will in 1678 and the entire will later today or tomorrow.
Monday, January 27, 2014
Will of William Blake of Andover, Hampshire - Hampshire Record Office 1831A-11, probated 25 Jul 1831
This particular will has been a desired acquisition by me for some time so was happy to receive it as a Christmas present. However, the will does not provide any details other than the name of his wife Sarah.
Possibly this is Sarah Frooks (widow) who married William Blake 8 Feb 1804 at Andover (Hampshire Genealogical Society). I did find a burial for Sarah Blake 20 Sep 1839 at Andover and 77 years of age so born circa 1762. If this was the wife of William and he was the William Blake of Andover mentioned in his Uncle John Blake, malster Abbots Ann, will of 1792 blogged:
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2013/04/king-family-of-upper-clatford-and-area.html
(probated 1796) William would have been born/baptized 2 Sep 1764. John in his will simply said William Blake of Andover. There are two deaths for William Blake at Andover, the first is that of an infant William Blake buried 18 Dec 1814 no parents stated. The second is that of William Blake 5 Nov 1824 at Andover and 81 years of age which would put his birth in 1743.
I do have the parish records for Andover which I have transcribed up to 1759 but obviously must do further! Unfortunately, this marriage was not celebrated at the Church at least I do not find it in the Church Records. The William Blake infant was 10 days of age when he was buried December 18 and on the same day Mary Blake was buried 22 years of age. The burial 5 Nov 1824 was for a William Blake from Little London, Andover and he was 81 years of age. Although none of this information would appear to belong to this William Blake (the testator), it does give me interesting information with regard to Blake families at Andover.
The mystery remains somewhat with regard to the brother of Thomas Blake (my 3x great grandparent).
Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 27 Jan 2014
Source: Hampshire Record Office, 1831A-11
Testator: William Blake
Place: Andover, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 20 May 1808, probated 25 Jul 1831
Condition: 19th century English, legible copy
[Margin]: 1831A-11
1 This is the last Will and Testament of me William
2 Blake of Andover in the County of Southampton made in sound Mind Memory
3 and Understanding as follows First I desire that all my just debts and
4 Funeral and Testamentary Expences be paid and satisfied out of my
5 personal Estate by my Executrix hereinafter named I give and
6 bequeath to my Wife Sarah Blake the Sum of two Hundred and twenty
7 Pounds which I now have in the Hands of Mr Wakeford of Andover
8 Banker to and for her own Use and Benefit I also give and bequeath
9 all my Household Furniture Goods Chattels Monies and Securities for
10 Money and all other my personal Estate whatsoever and
11 wheresoever situate and being and of what Nature or kind soever
12 unto my said wife Sarah Blake to and for her own use Benefit
13 and Disposal And I do hereby nominate constitute and
14 appoint my said wife Sarah Blake the Executrix of this my
15 will hereby revoking all former Wills by me made and declaring
16 this only to be my last Will and Testament In Witness
17 whereof I the said William Blake have to this my last Will
18 and Testament set my Hand and Seal this twentieth
19 day of May in the year of our Lord one Thousand eight
20 hundred and Eight
21 The Mark of William Blake X
22 Signed sealed published and declared
23 by the above named William Blake as
24 and for his last Will and Testament in
25 the presence of us who at his request in
26 his Presence and in the Presence of each
27 other have hereunto subscribed our Names
28 as Witnesses Anthony Antony
29 R Footner
30 20th May 1808
31 The will of Mr
32 Wm Blake
33 The 25th day of July 1831
34 On which day the within named Sarah Blake the sole
35 Executrix of the last Will and Testament of her late Husband
36 the within named William Blake deceased appeared before
37 me and made oath that the within Paper writing contained
38 the true last Will and Testament of the said William
39 Blake deceased and that the Goods and Chattels of the
40 said deceased are under the value of One Hundred Pounds
Possibly this is Sarah Frooks (widow) who married William Blake 8 Feb 1804 at Andover (Hampshire Genealogical Society). I did find a burial for Sarah Blake 20 Sep 1839 at Andover and 77 years of age so born circa 1762. If this was the wife of William and he was the William Blake of Andover mentioned in his Uncle John Blake, malster Abbots Ann, will of 1792 blogged:
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2013/04/king-family-of-upper-clatford-and-area.html
(probated 1796) William would have been born/baptized 2 Sep 1764. John in his will simply said William Blake of Andover. There are two deaths for William Blake at Andover, the first is that of an infant William Blake buried 18 Dec 1814 no parents stated. The second is that of William Blake 5 Nov 1824 at Andover and 81 years of age which would put his birth in 1743.
I do have the parish records for Andover which I have transcribed up to 1759 but obviously must do further! Unfortunately, this marriage was not celebrated at the Church at least I do not find it in the Church Records. The William Blake infant was 10 days of age when he was buried December 18 and on the same day Mary Blake was buried 22 years of age. The burial 5 Nov 1824 was for a William Blake from Little London, Andover and he was 81 years of age. Although none of this information would appear to belong to this William Blake (the testator), it does give me interesting information with regard to Blake families at Andover.
The mystery remains somewhat with regard to the brother of Thomas Blake (my 3x great grandparent).
Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 27 Jan 2014
Source: Hampshire Record Office, 1831A-11
Testator: William Blake
Place: Andover, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 20 May 1808, probated 25 Jul 1831
Condition: 19th century English, legible copy
[Margin]: 1831A-11
1 This is the last Will and Testament of me William
2 Blake of Andover in the County of Southampton made in sound Mind Memory
3 and Understanding as follows First I desire that all my just debts and
4 Funeral and Testamentary Expences be paid and satisfied out of my
5 personal Estate by my Executrix hereinafter named I give and
6 bequeath to my Wife Sarah Blake the Sum of two Hundred and twenty
7 Pounds which I now have in the Hands of Mr Wakeford of Andover
8 Banker to and for her own Use and Benefit I also give and bequeath
9 all my Household Furniture Goods Chattels Monies and Securities for
10 Money and all other my personal Estate whatsoever and
11 wheresoever situate and being and of what Nature or kind soever
12 unto my said wife Sarah Blake to and for her own use Benefit
13 and Disposal And I do hereby nominate constitute and
14 appoint my said wife Sarah Blake the Executrix of this my
15 will hereby revoking all former Wills by me made and declaring
16 this only to be my last Will and Testament In Witness
17 whereof I the said William Blake have to this my last Will
18 and Testament set my Hand and Seal this twentieth
19 day of May in the year of our Lord one Thousand eight
20 hundred and Eight
21 The Mark of William Blake X
22 Signed sealed published and declared
23 by the above named William Blake as
24 and for his last Will and Testament in
25 the presence of us who at his request in
26 his Presence and in the Presence of each
27 other have hereunto subscribed our Names
28 as Witnesses Anthony Antony
29 R Footner
30 20th May 1808
31 The will of Mr
32 Wm Blake
33 The 25th day of July 1831
34 On which day the within named Sarah Blake the sole
35 Executrix of the last Will and Testament of her late Husband
36 the within named William Blake deceased appeared before
37 me and made oath that the within Paper writing contained
38 the true last Will and Testament of the said William
39 Blake deceased and that the Goods and Chattels of the
40 said deceased are under the value of One Hundred Pounds
Sunday, January 26, 2014
Philosophizing - no work today!
We have been working on a jigsaw puzzle of a painting of Thomas Kincade and completed it this morning. The painting is beautiful; a church in a clearing which reminds me so much of some of the Churches that we saw when we visited England with my cousin six years ago. St Nicholas at Winterbourne Clenstone has the high ground above the Winterbourne looking perhaps pretty much as it has always looked in its hundreds of years as the edifice surveyed the farm land spread around it as far as the eye can see (the present building constructed in 1839 replaced a much older structure). The oldest reference I have seen to the original Church building at Winterborne Clenstone was the presentation of John of Bonnecomb as rector 4 Apr 1324. Nestled at the foot of the path up to the Church is the cemetery with its aged stones telling of a congregation that once filled the church with the sounds of people on a daily basis no doubt. What has happened to our Churches of days gone by. Why are they diminishing? They still play a huge role in my life although I do not attend as I once did. All of my daily work is to further the work of my Church in actual fact. I am converting the text of those days into a text that can be readily understood by researchers and that new tool of life - the search engine - which helps us to find what we need but albeit somewhat clumsily.
Why has the Church lost so much relevance in people's lives unless there is a tragedy. Then we flock to the Church for the solace that is there for all to receive in the knowledge that Jesus has prepared a place for us in His Kingdom which has no end.
The Church is slowly but steadily isolating itself into small communities of believers. In days past the parish which surrounded the Church of my youth and mature adulthood was the territory of that Church - all within were their lambs; their sheep; their care. Personally, I think they need to come out from within those sacred towers and once again be the Church of all the people. When I was a child growing up the Anglican Church that was so much a part of my daily life meant just that. The priests were everywhere and very much a part of the community not just at Remembrance Day. They were at my school teaching us about God and Jesus. Society played its role in isolating Churches by people complaining about religion being in the schools. Why did society win and the Church lose its special spot?
I dread to think that one day God/Jesus/Holy Spirit will slip from our conscious daily life. What more can I a simple person do I say to myself - keep transcribing is my answer. The words of love adoration worship found in those early wills tells me of a people who lived a "sudden-death" life experience but managed to put into those years as much as they could never forgetting their God and rendering up to God what belongs to God - 10% of what we are. Tithing is an important part of life and how we tithe is a personal thing; it could be we give it all to missions or to the maintenance of Church or other charitable operations within our own country. I opted to 80% to the maintenance and 20% to missions. My tithe is small; my pension is small and to be honest there is the thought that creeps into my head that I could buy a dozen more wills with that money each month from the Hampshire Record Office and as I finish those off from other places other items! It would still be God's work but not truly; the money that belongs to God is His to use as He sees fit.
Why has the Church lost so much relevance in people's lives unless there is a tragedy. Then we flock to the Church for the solace that is there for all to receive in the knowledge that Jesus has prepared a place for us in His Kingdom which has no end.
The Church is slowly but steadily isolating itself into small communities of believers. In days past the parish which surrounded the Church of my youth and mature adulthood was the territory of that Church - all within were their lambs; their sheep; their care. Personally, I think they need to come out from within those sacred towers and once again be the Church of all the people. When I was a child growing up the Anglican Church that was so much a part of my daily life meant just that. The priests were everywhere and very much a part of the community not just at Remembrance Day. They were at my school teaching us about God and Jesus. Society played its role in isolating Churches by people complaining about religion being in the schools. Why did society win and the Church lose its special spot?
I dread to think that one day God/Jesus/Holy Spirit will slip from our conscious daily life. What more can I a simple person do I say to myself - keep transcribing is my answer. The words of love adoration worship found in those early wills tells me of a people who lived a "sudden-death" life experience but managed to put into those years as much as they could never forgetting their God and rendering up to God what belongs to God - 10% of what we are. Tithing is an important part of life and how we tithe is a personal thing; it could be we give it all to missions or to the maintenance of Church or other charitable operations within our own country. I opted to 80% to the maintenance and 20% to missions. My tithe is small; my pension is small and to be honest there is the thought that creeps into my head that I could buy a dozen more wills with that money each month from the Hampshire Record Office and as I finish those off from other places other items! It would still be God's work but not truly; the money that belongs to God is His to use as He sees fit.
Friday, January 24, 2014
Back to Blake wills and haplogroup H11 (mtDNA)
Working on the will of Robert Blake of Enham written in 1522 (in Latin!) and it is slow going although I have the first 7 lines in good shape and the last 5 lines in good shape just the middle of the 19 line will. The middle seven have a lot of new and interesting words and each line is about 50% so hopefully in the next few days. This Robert has sons Thomas and Richard. Is he elderly? I am not sure. His wife is still living. I now know there is a Richard Blake leaving his will in 1522 and a Robert Blake leaving his will in 1522 and both of Enham. Are they brothers? Is one the husband of Jone who left her will in 1527? If yes to husband of Jone then his sons should be Robert and Nicholas and daughter Elizabeth. Richard does mention a son Robert and perhaps Nicholas (still working on cleaning up that will which I have published but without the line containing letters that make me think Nicholas). It is too easy to convince yourself when you want it to be particular letters. I shall continue looking at that particular line for a bit.
Decided to miss the DNA meeting for BIFHSGO tomorrow since I am still recovering from the flu although feeling quite fit now. I have been doing a lot of DNA work and was somewhat thinking it would be an interesting meeting.
There were 15 new H11 sequences published in the Raule paper and Ian Logan has published them in emails and to his webpage:
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/h11_genbank_sequences.htm
One of them is root (i.e.) does not have A961G to differentiate between H11a and H11b. It is from Finland and I am still somewhat of the opinion that this haplogroup wintered at Ukraina during the last Ice Age and emerged from there heading both northward toward the Scandinavian Penninsula and westward towards Poland and the rest of Europe to both the west and the south. I shall do another update on H11 in the next couple of months.
Decided to miss the DNA meeting for BIFHSGO tomorrow since I am still recovering from the flu although feeling quite fit now. I have been doing a lot of DNA work and was somewhat thinking it would be an interesting meeting.
There were 15 new H11 sequences published in the Raule paper and Ian Logan has published them in emails and to his webpage:
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/h11_genbank_sequences.htm
One of them is root (i.e.) does not have A961G to differentiate between H11a and H11b. It is from Finland and I am still somewhat of the opinion that this haplogroup wintered at Ukraina during the last Ice Age and emerged from there heading both northward toward the Scandinavian Penninsula and westward towards Poland and the rest of Europe to both the west and the south. I shall do another update on H11 in the next couple of months.
Thursday, January 23, 2014
Flu - thank goodness I got the flu shot
Succumbed to the flu and recovering nicely but not posting for a couple of days or working very hard. Thank goodness for the flu shot as this wasn't too bad. The flu shot is a good idea I think; if you do succumb then it is usually mild in comparison to a full blown case.
I am working on the second large document for Routledge (and others) during the reign of Henry VIII. It too contains a goodly number of names and identifies father and son which is always a plus. Hugh the son of Jefrey Routledge is mentioned as well as Joke Routledge. Given that there were in 1604 a large number of Routledge families in the area (1604 Land Survey of Bewcastle)
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/search/label/1604%20Land%20Survey%20of%20Bewcastle
1604 Land Survey of Bewcastle (from Bobbie Jo Hooser)
District Farm Tenant (S/F) Title (S/F) Relationship Title to Tenant
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Adam Routledge, Adam Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, John Routledge, Allen Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, John Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Thomas Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Archibald Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Sleetbeck Routledge, James Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Stone Knowe Routledge, Adam Routledge, Andrew Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, William Routledge, Archibald Father
Bayley Ashes Routledge, James Routledge, George Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Jerrat Routledge, George Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Quintain Routledge, George Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Adam Routledge, James Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, James Routledge, James Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Thomas Routledge, James Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, William Routledge, James Father
Bayley Crokeborne Routledge, Thomas Routledge, Jarret Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Thomas Routledge, Jeffery Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Richard Routledge, Jeffery Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Richard Routledge, Jeffery Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Cuthbert Routledge, John Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Jerrat Routledge, John Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Thomas Routledge, John Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Cuthbert Routledge, John Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Thomas Routledge, John Father
Bayley Sleetbeck Routledge, William Routledge, John Father
Bayley Trough Routledge, George Routledge, John Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Clement Routledge, John Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, George Routledge, John Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Quint Routledge, John Father
Bayley Todholes Routledge, James Routledge, Martin Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Edward Routledge, Nicholas Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Simon Routledge, Quintaine Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Andrew Routledge, Quintin Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Simon Routledge, Quintin Father
Bayley Bournfoot Routledge, Francis Routledge, Quintin Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Andrew Routledge, Quintin Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, John Routledge, Quintin Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Jenkin Routledge, Richard Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Gerege Routledge, Richard Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, John Routledge, Richard Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Jock Routledge, Robert Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Anthony Routledge, Rowland Father
Bayley Bournfoot Routledge, Edward Routledge, Rowland Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Cuthbert Routledge, Rowland Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Richard Routledge, Thomas Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, William Routledge, Thomas Father
Crewe Border Rig Routledge, William Routledge, Thomas Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Richard Routledge, Thomas Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, William Routledge, Thomas Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Edward Routledge, William Father
Bayley Trough Routledge, Alexander Routledge, William Father
Bayley Trough Routledge, John Routledge, William Father
Fathers are named as Adam, Allen, Andrew, Archibald, George, James, Jarret, Jeffery, John, Martin, Nicholas, Quintin, Richard, Robert, Rowland, Thomas and William. Thus yielding a total of 17 "father" names and the total list of occupiers (Routledge) is 52 (heads of household) in Bewcastle alone. Interestingly this reduces to 23 on the Protestation Returns in 1641-42 and this is generally all males 18 years of age and older.
What I do wonder is the document from Henry VIIIs time the tenants of Lord Dacre as well? That would make sense that the list is simply for the tenants of one of the particular land owners. More knowledge of the land ownership in Bewcastle and the tenants would be a useful acquisition perhaps in following the various Routledge lines at Bewcastle. My lines were of Oakshaw but also at Todhills, Broderigg, and Raw and others.
Another day on Routledge and then tomorrow I shall return once again to my Blake wills.
I am working on the second large document for Routledge (and others) during the reign of Henry VIII. It too contains a goodly number of names and identifies father and son which is always a plus. Hugh the son of Jefrey Routledge is mentioned as well as Joke Routledge. Given that there were in 1604 a large number of Routledge families in the area (1604 Land Survey of Bewcastle)
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/search/label/1604%20Land%20Survey%20of%20Bewcastle
1604 Land Survey of Bewcastle (from Bobbie Jo Hooser)
District Farm Tenant (S/F) Title (S/F) Relationship Title to Tenant
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Adam Routledge, Adam Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, John Routledge, Allen Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, John Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Thomas Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Archibald Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Sleetbeck Routledge, James Routledge, Andrew Father
Bayley Stone Knowe Routledge, Adam Routledge, Andrew Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, William Routledge, Archibald Father
Bayley Ashes Routledge, James Routledge, George Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Jerrat Routledge, George Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Quintain Routledge, George Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Adam Routledge, James Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, James Routledge, James Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Thomas Routledge, James Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, William Routledge, James Father
Bayley Crokeborne Routledge, Thomas Routledge, Jarret Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Thomas Routledge, Jeffery Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Richard Routledge, Jeffery Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Richard Routledge, Jeffery Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Cuthbert Routledge, John Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Jerrat Routledge, John Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Thomas Routledge, John Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Cuthbert Routledge, John Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Thomas Routledge, John Father
Bayley Sleetbeck Routledge, William Routledge, John Father
Bayley Trough Routledge, George Routledge, John Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Clement Routledge, John Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, George Routledge, John Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Quint Routledge, John Father
Bayley Todholes Routledge, James Routledge, Martin Father
Bayley Blackdubs Routledge, Edward Routledge, Nicholas Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Simon Routledge, Quintaine Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Andrew Routledge, Quintin Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Simon Routledge, Quintin Father
Bayley Bournfoot Routledge, Francis Routledge, Quintin Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Andrew Routledge, Quintin Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, John Routledge, Quintin Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Jenkin Routledge, Richard Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Gerege Routledge, Richard Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, John Routledge, Richard Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Jock Routledge, Robert Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Anthony Routledge, Rowland Father
Bayley Bournfoot Routledge, Edward Routledge, Rowland Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Cuthbert Routledge, Rowland Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Richard Routledge, Thomas Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, William Routledge, Thomas Father
Crewe Border Rig Routledge, William Routledge, Thomas Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, Richard Routledge, Thomas Father
The Quarter The Quarter Routledge, William Routledge, Thomas Father
Bayley Bayley Routledge, Edward Routledge, William Father
Bayley Trough Routledge, Alexander Routledge, William Father
Bayley Trough Routledge, John Routledge, William Father
Fathers are named as Adam, Allen, Andrew, Archibald, George, James, Jarret, Jeffery, John, Martin, Nicholas, Quintin, Richard, Robert, Rowland, Thomas and William. Thus yielding a total of 17 "father" names and the total list of occupiers (Routledge) is 52 (heads of household) in Bewcastle alone. Interestingly this reduces to 23 on the Protestation Returns in 1641-42 and this is generally all males 18 years of age and older.
What I do wonder is the document from Henry VIIIs time the tenants of Lord Dacre as well? That would make sense that the list is simply for the tenants of one of the particular land owners. More knowledge of the land ownership in Bewcastle and the tenants would be a useful acquisition perhaps in following the various Routledge lines at Bewcastle. My lines were of Oakshaw but also at Todhills, Broderigg, and Raw and others.
Another day on Routledge and then tomorrow I shall return once again to my Blake wills.
Tuesday, January 21, 2014
Border Reivers and Thomas Routledge and a little on Blake
I have been doing some transcription for Thomas Routledge who manages the Routledge Clan.
This document is from the National Archives (UK):
It has a list of 190 names of tenants of Lord Dacre who were involved in this unlawful assembly and Thomas does plan on publishing this list at the moment in his book due to go to the publishers later this year. If he changes his mind as the list is lengthy then I will publish it on the blog later this year. It still needs a little cleaning up ! but is now at least readable. The document is in latin and my transcription somewhat rough in that regard but the names are easily understood.
I continue with another document from the time of Henry VIII also quite interesting and with its own list of names. Our interest is in the Routledge name which we both share, his surname and the surnames of two of my 3x great grandparents (Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Routledge) who married at Bewcastle, all of their children were born at Bewcastle and they all traveled to southwestern Ontario in the summer of 1818 to take up farms in London Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada. My cousin George DeKay continues to live on one of these original farms of the Routledge family. He and I share a common ancestor in Robert Gray of Holme on the Wolds who married Elizabeth Cobb and three of their sons came to Canada the first two around 1832 (still hunting that elusive boat list) Robert Gray (my ancestor who married Mary Routledge) and William Gray (his ancestor who married Mary Beverley).
I should be back to Blake will transcription shortly.
I received a rather interesting email from a descendant of the Blake family at Portsea. He has an interesting blog which he mentioned and I have become a follower of this site:
http://melvynsmudlarkinglifeinpompey.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-portsea-blakes-family-tree.html
I shall have a look today to see if I am able to find his ancestor John Blake in some of the work that I have done although he has read my blog already but sometimes I do not have everything up on the blog and will check that out for him. It is always fascinating to hear from Blakes around the world. Our family name has traveled from the British Isles to every country in the world I am beginning to think as I hear from people in so many of them.
In my lifetime I can only accomplish so much on the Blake family and I dearly hope that others will take up the challenge of learning about the Blake families and carry it on into the future. My own line at Andover was so large in the 1500s and I wonder did they found many lines in the towns and villages of Hampshire? DNA studies have not yet proven that but rather that this surname has spontaneously evolved in a number of areas in the British Isles as a characteristic surname. I know that my own line going back tended towards blondness with blue eyes. My grandfather's eyes were gray blue coloured (actually both of my grandfathers had blue eye colouring and both of my grandmothers were brown eyed). My eyes are hazel with a blue eye ring lending credence to the thought that eye colour is determined by a number of genes. My eyes are a good example of that.
A few more days on Routledge and then back to Blake. I will be working on some of the older wills for a bit in Hampshire as I have accomplished all of the later ones that I hold. Hampshire record office has nearly 200 Blake wills from 1700 to 1900 which I should like to have a look at when we next are in Winchester. I am also gradually purchasing wills from them but working on the older wills first. There is the census for the 1800s which I also need to work on for Blake and the Parish Registers but there I have only just cracked the surface. A lot of work to do and still my Blake one name study website to get up and running again. Time marches onward and I must find time for that.
The long cold winter is upon us here in Canada and we are gradually building up our snow/ice cover giving me more time inside to work on genealogy. Back to work for the day! Although I am not as busy as when I worked at the hospital, I still keep pretty busy for being retired!
This document is from the National Archives (UK):
Inquisition and declaration by justices as to
unlawful assembly of Thomas Carleton of Askerten and others at Bewcastle,
Cumberland - STAC 3/2/37 (also see STAC 3/2/65)
Heading: To my lord of the kyngs ma[jes]tie most honorable Privey Counsell
Date (within document): decimo sexto die Augesti Anno regni Edwardi sexti (Edward VI reigned 28 Jan 1547 to 6 Jul 1553) so this is the 16 August 1552.
Date (within document): decimo sexto die Augesti Anno regni Edwardi sexti (Edward VI reigned 28 Jan 1547 to 6 Jul 1553) so this is the 16 August 1552.
I continue with another document from the time of Henry VIII also quite interesting and with its own list of names. Our interest is in the Routledge name which we both share, his surname and the surnames of two of my 3x great grandparents (Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Routledge) who married at Bewcastle, all of their children were born at Bewcastle and they all traveled to southwestern Ontario in the summer of 1818 to take up farms in London Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada. My cousin George DeKay continues to live on one of these original farms of the Routledge family. He and I share a common ancestor in Robert Gray of Holme on the Wolds who married Elizabeth Cobb and three of their sons came to Canada the first two around 1832 (still hunting that elusive boat list) Robert Gray (my ancestor who married Mary Routledge) and William Gray (his ancestor who married Mary Beverley).
I should be back to Blake will transcription shortly.
I received a rather interesting email from a descendant of the Blake family at Portsea. He has an interesting blog which he mentioned and I have become a follower of this site:
http://melvynsmudlarkinglifeinpompey.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-portsea-blakes-family-tree.html
I shall have a look today to see if I am able to find his ancestor John Blake in some of the work that I have done although he has read my blog already but sometimes I do not have everything up on the blog and will check that out for him. It is always fascinating to hear from Blakes around the world. Our family name has traveled from the British Isles to every country in the world I am beginning to think as I hear from people in so many of them.
In my lifetime I can only accomplish so much on the Blake family and I dearly hope that others will take up the challenge of learning about the Blake families and carry it on into the future. My own line at Andover was so large in the 1500s and I wonder did they found many lines in the towns and villages of Hampshire? DNA studies have not yet proven that but rather that this surname has spontaneously evolved in a number of areas in the British Isles as a characteristic surname. I know that my own line going back tended towards blondness with blue eyes. My grandfather's eyes were gray blue coloured (actually both of my grandfathers had blue eye colouring and both of my grandmothers were brown eyed). My eyes are hazel with a blue eye ring lending credence to the thought that eye colour is determined by a number of genes. My eyes are a good example of that.
A few more days on Routledge and then back to Blake. I will be working on some of the older wills for a bit in Hampshire as I have accomplished all of the later ones that I hold. Hampshire record office has nearly 200 Blake wills from 1700 to 1900 which I should like to have a look at when we next are in Winchester. I am also gradually purchasing wills from them but working on the older wills first. There is the census for the 1800s which I also need to work on for Blake and the Parish Registers but there I have only just cracked the surface. A lot of work to do and still my Blake one name study website to get up and running again. Time marches onward and I must find time for that.
The long cold winter is upon us here in Canada and we are gradually building up our snow/ice cover giving me more time inside to work on genealogy. Back to work for the day! Although I am not as busy as when I worked at the hospital, I still keep pretty busy for being retired!
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