Thursday, November 26, 2015

John Welch (1756 - 1812)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 48

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, unknown, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

John Welch was baptized at Rugeley Staffordshire 25 Apr 1756 son of Thomas Welch and Mary Linn  who were themselves married 2 Sep 1745 at Rugeley Staffordshire.When we were in Salt Lake City in 2008 I went through the Rugeley Staffordshire parish records which they held. They were perhaps the Bishops Transcripts and I still have not seen the original parish records online. Likely I will need to subscribe to The Genealogist.UK to view some of these other counties in the future but that brief search through the Rugeley records showed me that my Welch family was unique at Rugeley and I was able to put the family together.

Thomas and Mary Welch baptized a number of children at Rugeley:

Sarah baptized 28 Jun 1747
Mary baptized 8 Apr 1753
John baptized 25 Apr 1756
Ann baptized 26 Dec 1758
Susannah baptized 3 May 1761

John does appear to be the only male Welch child baptized at Rugeley in this time period.

Thomas was baptized 22 Apr 1711 at Rugeley the son of William Welch and Sarah (unknown). William is likely the William Welch buried at Rugeley 20 Apr 1713.

William and Sarah Welch baptized a number of children at Rugeley:

Thomas baptized 22 Apr 1711
Mary buried 26 Dec 1712 at Rugeley
Winnifred baptized 24 Jan 1714

The marriage of William and Sarah was not at Rugeley. I shall check Find My Past today to see if I can locate a marriage for this couple. I did not find anything on Find My Past nor did I find anything on Ancestry. Nor did I find anything on Family Search. Looking at Genuki the following:

"The register of the parish church of St Augustine commences in 1569. The original registers for the period 1569-1905 (Bapts), 1569-1915 (Mar), & 1569-1956 (Bur) and Banns for the period 1823-1890 are deposited at Staffordshire Record Office.
Bishops Transcripts for the period 1659-1880 (with gaps 1681-1684, 1735-1738 & 1780-1795) are deposited at Lichfield Record Office.
A transcript of the registers for the period 1569-1722 was published in 1928 by the Staffordshire Parish Register Society and has been reprinted by the Birmingham & Midland SGH."

I believe that the transcript of the registers published in 1928 is what I viewed at The Family History Centre Library in Salt Lake City.

 I did image a number of items at Salt Lake City and will review them.

Richard Welch married Margery Litton 30 Dec 1675
Thomas Welch son of William and Sarah baptized 22 Apr 1711
Mary daughter of William Welch buried 26 Dec 1712
William Welch buried 20 Apr 1713
Winnifred daughter of William and Sarah Welch, posthumous, baptized 24 Jan 1713
Anne Welch daughter of Mr Henry and Anne Welch baptized 10 Oct 1714
Thomas Harvey married Edith Welch by banns 4 Nov 1717
John Welch bastard son of Sarah Welch baptized 16 Jan 1717/18

I had forgotten that there was another couple baptizing children at this same time - Henry and Anne Welch. I did not find any baptisms for Richard and Margery Welch who married in 1675 at Rugeley. 

The marriage of Thomas Welch and Mary Linn by banns  2 Sep 1745:



The baptism of my 4x great grandfather John Welch son of Thomas and Mary Welch baptized 25 Apr 1756:



I do have the marriage registration for John Weltch and Margaret Brockhouse who were married 16 Feb 1783:



John and Margaret Welch baptized a number of children at Rugeley:

Thomas baptized 3 Nov 1783 (married Rebecca Reeves 8 Aug 1814 at Rugeley)
John baptized 3 Jul 1785
Ann baptized 11 Nov 1787 (married William Beardsmore 15 Sep 1812 at Rugeley)
Sarah baptized 10 May 1789 (married William Reeves 15 Oct 1812 at Rugeley)
Mary baptized 25 Dec 1790 (married John Tomlinson 26 Jun 1814 at Rugeley)
William baptized 11 Nov 1792 (married Sarah Cheatle 24 Aug 1818 at Longdon by Lichfield)
Hannah baptized 6 Apr 1794 (married John Wilks 26 Dec 1814 at Rugeley)
Susanna baptized 8 Nov 1795
Frances baptized 2 Jul 1797
Henry baptized 5 May 1799 (married Elizabeth Radford 19 Apr 1824 at Colton)
James baptized 12 Jul 1801 (married Lucy Welch)

The descendants of John and Margaret Welch known to me (grandchildren) number 44. I have not traced down many of these grandchildren but should consider that if I really want to do anything with the autosomal. It is possible that many of these descendants still live in the Birmingham area and with Who Do You Think You Are Live in Birmingham it is possible they might test their autosomal DNA but I might not spot them in my matches.

Marriage of William Welch and Sarah Cheatle (my 3x great grandparents):


One of the first items that I noted was that William has signed the register whereas his father John made his mark. William was a restaurant owner in Birmingham from the mid 1820s to the end of the 1850s. It is possible that Sarah his wife was partly the reason for his successful entrepreneurship. One notes that William Cheatle is one of the witnesses and this could be Sarah's father. Sarah has also signed the register.

Ann, daughter of William and Sarah, married Henry Christopher Buller in 1838 at Edgbaston (she was just 18 years of age and I suspect a run away marriage) and their son Edwin Denner Buller was my great grandfather.

The story of John Welch is virtually unchanged from my early thoughts. I have no ideas on the origin of this Welch family; are they descendant of Richard and Margery and was Henry a brother to William from the early Rugeley records? At some point I shall have to visit this family again when records for Staffordshire are available. 

Ancestry of John Welch:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Helen Louise PINCOMBE (b 18 Oct 1916) - Westminster Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
3. Ellen Rosina BULLER (b 20 May 1886) - Birmingham Warwickshire England
4. Edwin Denner BULLER (b 8 Apr 1850) - Birmingham Warwickshire England
5. Ann WELCH (b 4 Jan 1820) - Ashby de la Zouch Leicester England
6. William WELCH (b 11 Nov 1792) - Rugeley Staffordshire England
7. John WELCH (b 25 Apr 1756) - Rugeley Staffordshire England
8. Thomas WELCH (b 22 Apr 1711) - Rugeley Staffordshire England
9. William WELCH

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