Sunday, October 31, 2021

H11 Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 4 2021

 

Table of Contents

 

1.   Project Statistics

2.   Other

3.   In Memoriam: Barry Hinman, Librarian Emeritus, Stanford University

4.   H11 in the news (provided by Barry Hinman)

5.   YFull Tree – H11a1b

 

1.   Project Statistics:

Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded

    49

DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups

    17

Family Finder

   293

Maternal Ancestor Information

   344

mtDNA       

    381

mtDNA Full Sequence

    373

mtDNA Plus

    379

mtDNA Subgroups

      23

Total Members

    419

Unreturned Kits

      17

2.   Other

There are nine new members since the last update on the subclades with Issue 3. All new members are now assigned to their individual groups. Information which follows will revise my reporting in February as the YFull mitrochondrial Tree has been updated and I will use their coding for naming so changes will be forthcoming in the full issue of the next Volume of the Newsletter. I will also have to consider whether I am actually providing a service with this Newsletter. I am contemplating that I could start up a Kipp Family Newsletter with the Kipp Family Study and that could become my third newsletter. I have switched the orientation to Landscape in order to display the H11 table at YFull in section 5.

 

3.   In Memoriam: Barry Hinman, Librarian Emeritus Stanford University
I sadly discovered yesterday that one of my correspondents in the H11 study passed away in July this year. Barry Hinman (Librarian Emeritus Stanford University) and I have been corresponding about H11 for five years. I did try to persuade him to become a co-administrator and he did consider it but he had other items he wanted to write up and the H11 study does take time. His own line was somewhat rare and not yet charted independently on the Phylotree. He had sent me an email in March 2021 which I have only just reached and responded to him yesterday but sadly the email bounced back. He had found some new work on T961a which supplied him with a subclade name for his particular grouping. I am happy to say that that did happen. At the time I was very much involved with my husband's illness and just could not grapple with anything. I did write to Dr. Mannis Van Oven about the Phylotree and had sent him all of Barry's information as he published the latest update in February of 2016. The new branch name which was selected by Genetic Homeland -  H11a1b.

4.   H11 in the News

T961A does occur in some members in the study. To date the phylotree does not take this particular mutation into account in its rendering of H11 haplogroup and its subclades. I am not able to determine yet if there will be an update to the Phylotree. The last build was 18 Feb 2016 and it was mtDNA tree Build 17. With new information from a member of the study I have emailed Dr. Mannis van Oven and will let you know if I hear back from him in the full recitation of results in February 2022.

 

Some information on T961A includes: “The full sequence mitochondrial test at FamilyTreeDNA shows this maternal haplogroup to be H11, but with a unique variation so far not shared with anyone else in the United States: T961a. The mutation T961g is the significant marker for the group H11a as is A16293G,  which these women do carry. A new subclade for T961a will have to be created in haplogroup H11. The site Genetic Homeland has done so, calling the new subclade H11a1b.” Submitted by a group member.

 The mutation T961g is the significant marker for the group H11a as is A16293G, which these women do carry. A new subclade for T961a will have to be created in haplogroup H11.

“The site Genetic Homeland has done so, calling the new subclade H11a1b.1  Another site, YFull, agrees and further estimates that the subclade was formed about 800 years before the present. All of the persons known to have this mutation are shown to be from Russia.2"

1.   https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnamarkerindex.asp?snp=T961A&Chromosome=M; https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnapedigree.asp?RecordID=1727511

2.   https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H11a1b/

 

Thank you to Barry Hinman for providing this material for this H11 Newsletter.

5.   YFull Tree


Website provided by Barry Hinman’s notes:

 

The H11 Tree at YFull:

 

·         H11T8448C * T16311C!formed 8200 ybp, TMRCA 5400 ybp

o    H11*

§  id:YF92961new

§  id:KY496897.1FIN

§  id:KC763398.1

o    H11-a1A16293Gformed 5400 ybp, TMRCA 3900 ybp

§  H11-a1*

§  id:YF64013

§  id:KC763447.1

§  id:KM047214.1POL

§  id:JX153570.1FIN

§  H11aT961Gformed 3900 ybp, TMRCA 1700 ybp

§  id:EF657668.1

§  H11a*

§  id:YF93559new

§  id:MZ920306.1ESP [ES-L]new

§  id:YF90652new

§  id:YF90621new

§  id:YF90565new

§  id:YF90325new

§  id:YF89323new

§  id:YF89123new

§  id:YF88349new

§  id:YF83564POL [PL-24]pol

§  id:VPBper661HUN [HU-SO]age

§  id:YF81051PRT [PT-20]

§  id:YF80871

§  id:EG600092UKR [UA-35]

§  id:R1219ITA [IT-RM]age

§  id:R435ITA [IT-RM]age

§  id:YF71610

§  id:MK134317.1SRB

§  id:MK134366.1SRB

§  id:MK134367.1SRB

§  id:MK059485.1DNK

§  id:MK059523.1DNK

§  id:MK059671.1GBR

§  id:MK059712.1GBR

§  id:KF162553.1DNK

§  id:KJ856811.1POL

§  id:KF161435.1DNK

§  id:KF161420.1DNK

§  id:JQ705984.1

§  id:KC554011.1

§  id:KF162478.1DNK

§  id:KF162294.1DNK

§  id:KM101842.1USA

§  id:KF161732.1DNK

§  id:MG182513.1

§  id:KF162388.1DNK

§  id:KF162555.1DNK

§  id:MG182516.1ITA [IT-TO]

§  id:JQ703676.1

§  id:JQ703167.1

§  id:JQ703163.1

§  id:JQ703593.1

§  id:JQ704185.1

§  id:JQ704846.1

§  id:JQ705807.1

§  id:JQ705898.1

§  id:JX152946.1DNK

§  id:JX152992.1FIN

§  id:JX153368.1DNK

§  id:JX153417.1DNK

§  id:JX153483.1DNK

§  id:JX153711.1DNK

§  id:JX153761.1DNK

§  id:JX153771.1DNK

§  id:JX154068.1FIN

§  id:KX675314.1KGZ [KG-N]kir

§  id:MG429009.1

§  id:MG182511.1ITA [IT-TO]

§  id:MF497489.1

§  id:HGDP00522

§  id:KF451057.1

§  id:YF15230NLD [NL-NB]

§  id:ERS1789505

§  id:<NDVK3G>

§  id:<D8UA9N>

§  id:<WL6DCT>

§  id:<2A43V4>

§  id:<WHM2FP>

§  id:<NS3A4P>

§  id:<2WNS8D>

§  H11a1C8898T * C16278T!formed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 800 ybp

§  id:EF657502.1

§  id:EF657478.1

§  H11a1*

§  id:YF89192new

§  id:YF88137

§  id:YF81144SWE [SE-O]swe

§  id:YF80859

§  id:YF71489UKR

§  id:YF70765

§  id:MH298069.1ROU

§  id:KJ856810.1POL

§  id:KJ856767.1RUS

§  id:KF162198.1DNK

§  id:AY738958.1ITA

§  id:JQ703259.1

§  id:KC286597.1

§  id:KY670856.1RUS

§  id:MG646148.1POL

§  id:MH120502.1POL

§  id:KY671025.1RUS

§  id:MH120723.1POL

§  id:YF06214SVK [SK-KI]slk

§  id:<QPPYNS>

§  H11a1aA13434Gformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 500 ybp

§  H11a1a*

§  id:K2per71HUN

§  id:YF86375

§  id:KC286601.1

§  id:MG646089.1POL

§  id:MH120485.1POL

§  id:<MPARVB>

§  id:YF03671SRB

§  H11a1a1C11503Aformed 500 ybp, TMRCA 250 ybp

§  id:MG646231.1POL

§  id:MG646251.1POL

§  id:MG646146.1POL

§  id:MH120752.1POL

§  id:YF15737

§  H11a1bT961Aformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 600 ybp

§  H11a1b*

§  id:<DLMXXU>RUS

§  H11a1b1A4215Gformed 600 ybp, TMRCA 250 ybp

§  id:KY670871.1RUS

§  id:KY671012.1RUS

§  H11a1cT16224Cformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 375 ybp

§  H11a1c*

§  id:MN540516.1FIN [FI-IS]age

§  id:KY671011.1RUS

§  id:MH492645.1

§  id:KY671125.1RUS

§  id:KF451406.1

§  id:<4K98JC>

§  H11a1c1T13635Cformed 375 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:MN516678.1FIN

§  id:KY670966.1RUS

§  id:YF68459

§  H11a1c2A73G!formed 375 ybp, TMRCA 100 ybp

§  id:YF81023LVA [LV-VMR]lav

§  id:YF75883LVA [LV-VMR]lav

§  id:YF75787LVA [LV-VMR]lav

§  id:YF78569LVA [LV-053]lav

§  id:YF74595LVA [LV-VMR]lav

§  H11a1dT7674Cformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:YF77821

§  id:KF162267.1DNK

§  H11a1eA215Gformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 475 ybp

§  id:YF86582

§  id:KY671116.1RUS

§  id:MH120758.1POL

§  H11a1fG15077Aformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 300 ybp

§  id:MH120647.1POL

§  id:MH120823.1POL

§  H11a1gC14794Tformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 425 ybp

§  id:EG600076UKR [UA-21]

§  id:YF73947UKR [UA-48]

§  H11a1hT5021Cformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 350 ybp

§  id:KY409403.1ITA

§  id:KY409275.1ITA

§  id:KM101911.1USA

§  id:KY409984.1ITA

§  H11a1iT146C!formed 800 ybp, TMRCA 275 ybp

§  id:YF84572USA [US-OH]

§  id:YF84399

§  id:YF66036RUS [RU-ARK]

§  id:YF63402SWE [SE-BD]swe

§  id:YF63138FIN [FI-LS]

§  id:YF63136FIN [FI-LS]

§  id:YF19968SWE [SE-BD]

§  id:KJ856774.1RUS

§  id:KJ856785.1RUS

§  id:GU122994.1RUS

§  id:JQ702044.1

§  id:JQ703678.1

§  id:JQ703688.1

§  id:JX153177.1FIN

§  id:MF497486.1

§  id:YF19104RUS [RU-KIR]

§  id:YF13659SWE [SE-BD]swe

§  id:YF10771FIN [FI-ES]

§  id:YF09377FIN [FI-LS]

§  id:YF03564RUS [RU-IRK]

§  id:<VE4DA6>

§  H11a1jA2784Gformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:YF89491new

§  id:JQ703453.1

§  H11a10A5515Gformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 1150 ybp

§  id:MH981652.1ZAF

§  id:YF10936USA [US-NC]

§  H11a11T8618Cformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 1250 ybp

§  id:JQ705928.1

§  id:KF451844.1

§  H11a12T16368Cformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 475 ybp

§  id:<3FZBWB>USA [US-CA]

§  id:YF11733USA [US-CA]

§  id:<KYHC2Y>

§  H11a13C11206Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 375 ybp

§  id:MH120508.1POL

§  id:MH120548.1POL

§  H11a14G228Aformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 750 ybp

§  id:JQ704101.1

§  id:MG646241.1POL

§  H11a15C16354Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 900 ybp

§  H11a15*

§  id:MK059533.1DNK

§  id:JQ702966.1

§  id:YF14725DEU [DE-BW]

§  H11a15aG16293A!formed 900 ybp, TMRCA 650 ybp

§  H11a15a*

§  id:<EWT2NA>

§  H11a15a1G499Aformed 650 ybp, TMRCA 350 ybp

§  H11a15a1*

§  id:YF87531

§  H11a15a1aA9000Gformed 350 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:JQ705459.1

§  id:<ZSKL3Q>

§  H11a16C16355Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 600 ybp

§  id:YF71185POL

§  id:KF161563.1DNK

§  H11a2A14587Gformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 1250 ybp

§  H11a2*

§  id:YF92983RUS [RU-LIP]new

§  id:MZ920599.1ESP [ES-M]new

§  id:MZ920799.1ESP [ES-B]new

§  id:YF88163

§  id:STR248bDEU [DE-BY]age

§  id:MN687285.1ITA

§  id:MK059621.1GBR

§  id:YF64109FIN [FI-OL]fin

§  id:JQ703175.1

§  id:KJ856795.1POL

§  id:JQ703510.1

§  id:KF162655.1DNK

§  id:KY671087.1RUS

§  H11a2aT16140Cformed 1250 ybp, TMRCA 850 ybp

§  H11a2a*

§  id:YF92930DEU [DE-NW]new

§  id:YF89187new

§  id:MK059503.1DNK

§  id:YF66300SWE [SE-M]

§  id:YF19332AUS [AU-NSW]

§  id:KJ856816.1POL

§  id:KF161727.1DNK

§  id:KM101966.1USA

§  id:KF161565.1DNK

§  id:JQ704395.1

§  id:JQ705580.1

§  id:MG646179.1POL

§  id:MH120589.1POL

§  id:MF177165.1POL

§  id:<XBER6T>

§  id:YF02536FIN [FI-AL]

§  id:<AUD3TY>

§  id:<JPTCSJ>

§  H11a2a1A3145Gformed 850 ybp, TMRCA 225 ybp

§  H11a2a1*

§  id:YF84341

§  id:YF78076

§  id:JQ703451.1

§  id:YF07623ENG

§  id:YF71875IRL [IE-DL]

§  id:<UZN6UG>

§  id:<X36V63>

§  H11a2a1aG16293A!formed 225 ybp, TMRCA 100 ybp

§  id:YF87634

§  id:YF83623USA [US-MS]

§  id:JQ702388.1

§  id:JQ703183.1

§  id:<5BU5CJ>

§  id:<L7THJW>

§  H11a2a2G5585A * T15670C * A16265Gformed 850 ybp, TMRCA 375 ybp

§  id:<83U9PN>

§  H11a2a2*

§  id:YF92975new

§  id:MK059657.1GBR

§  id:YF80143CZE [CZ-OL]

§  id:YF65472RUS

§  id:JQ703071.1

§  id:KJ856713.1RUS

§  id:KJ856825.1POL

§  id:JQ704427.1

§  id:MF362825.1

§  id:KY671049.1RUS

§  id:KY670923.1RUS

§  id:MH120705.1POL

§  id:<CMQNXM>

§  id:<7Z3A4L>

§  id:<SC5NJB>

§  id:<ENRLEY>

§  id:<E7KSP4>

§  H11a2a2aT12235Cformed 375 ybp, TMRCA 225 ybp

§  id:YF88092

§  id:YF82198POL [PL-14]

§  id:YF79194POL [PL-14]

§  id:MN516558.1FIN

§  id:YF65299FIN [FI-ES]

§  id:JQ705954.1

§  id:JX153593.1FIN

§  id:KY782226.1POL

§  H11a2a2bC6386Tformed 375 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:KY670995.1RUS

§  id:KY671059.1RUS

§  id:<AF2SAY>

§  H11a2a3C9521Tformed 850 ybp, TMRCA 450 ybp

§  H11a2a3*

§  id:JQ702396.1

§  H11a2a3aC16380Tformed 450 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:YF13105USA [US-OH]

§  id:<DFLU97>

§  H11a2a4G5252Aformed 850 ybp, TMRCA 650 ybp

§  id:MZ920594.1ESP [ES-CO]new

§  id:KY782188.1POL

§  id:YF14657

§  H11a2bG14476Cformed 1250 ybp, TMRCA 250 ybp

§  id:SRS8752685TUR

§  id:YF75619MNE [ME-16]

§  id:MK134320.1SRB

§  id:JQ702051.1

§  id:YF19129MKD [MK-407]

§  id:YF11397ALB [AL-10]aln

§  H11a2cC6854Tformed 1250 ybp, TMRCA 650 ybp

§  id:YF85296

§  id:YF78515SRB [RS-07]srp

§  id:JQ704166.1

§  H11a2dT16298Cformed 1250 ybp, TMRCA 200 ybp

§  id:MN610403.1

§  id:MN610405.1

§  H11a2eC16301Tformed 1250 ybp, TMRCA 600 ybp

§  H11a2e*

§  id:MHper137HUN [HU-HB]age

§  H11a2e1T7885Cformed 600 ybp, TMRCA 275 ybp

§  id:YF85985SRB

§  id:MK134293.1SRB

§  H11a3T16243Cformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 350 ybp

§  id:YF88631new

§  id:JQ703172.1

§  id:JQ703235.1

§  id:<BQC7PN>

§  H11a4C16111Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 400 ybp

§  id:YF88002

§  id:YF87918

§  id:YF80757USA [US-VA]

§  id:YF70757ENG

§  id:JQ704280.1

§  H11a5C15040Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 475 ybp

§  id:YF68215BGR [BG-01]

§  id:YF68204BGR [BG-01]

§  id:YF66971SRB [RS-08]srp

§  id:GU592023.1

§  id:GU592038.1

§  id:JQ703949.1

§  H11a6G1719A * G5979A * A16525Gformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 300 ybp

§  id:JQ705740.1

§  H11a8T14325Cformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 800 ybp

§  H11a8*

§  id:YF85012

§  id:YF65490

§  id:JQ705643.1

§  id:JX153516.1DNK

§  id:YF17309ENG

§  H11a8aT8604Aformed 800 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:YF92768new

§  id:JX153476.1DNK

§  H11a9T9116Cformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 850 ybp

§  id:KF162617.1DNK

§  id:JX153466.1DNK

§  H11a-aT152C!formed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 1700 ybp

§  H11a-a*

§  id:MT079070.1

§  id:MT079073.1

§  id:MT079075.1

§  id:KF161209.1DNK

§  id:KF162803.1DNK

§  id:JQ703253.1

§  id:JQ706003.1

§  H11a7C9911Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 950 ybp

§  H11a7*

§  H11a7aC16355Tformed 950 ybp, TMRCA 600 ybp

§  H11a7a*

§  id:YF92985new

§  id:YF84639UKR [UA-46]pol

§  id:MHper107HUN [HU-HB]age

§  H11a7a1A15034Gformed 600 ybp, TMRCA 425 ybp

§  id:AY195751.1

§  id:JQ703733.1

§  H11a7bG4820Aformed 950 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp

§  id:YF88306new

§  id:YF87465

§  id:YF85798

§  id:YF85548DEU

§  id:YF82906

§  H11a-a1C6950Tformed 1700 ybp, TMRCA 375 ybp

§  id:YF90857new

§  id:JQ704164.1

o    H11bT13572Cformed 5400 ybp, TMRCA 4000 ybp

§  H11b*

§  id:PGPC72

§  id:MN516664.1FIN

§  H11b1T7645Cformed 4000 ybp, TMRCA 2700 ybp

§  H11b1*

§  id:MZ920423.1ESP [ES-AB]new

§  id:YF84985

§  id:YF84122

§  id:YF65445FIN [FI-LS]

§  id:JN581651.1

§  id:KF161213.1DNK

§  id:JQ704081.1

§  id:JQ703343.1

§  id:JQ703543.1

§  id:JQ704286.1

§  id:MG646200.1POL

§  id:MH120498.1POL

§  id:MH120816.1POL

§  id:JQ704664.1

§  id:YF13086

§  id:<TJAWVG>

§  H11b1aC10088Tformed 2700 ybp, TMRCA 1900 ybp

§  id:YF83052

§  id:YF79752DEU [DE-TH]

§  id:MN610428.1

§  id:JQ703781.1

§  id:MH120654.1POL

§  H11b1a*

§  H11b1a1G6260A

§  H11b1bT146C!

o    H11cA9285Gformed 5400 ybp, TMRCA 800 ybp

§  id:JQ703684.1

§  id:MG646102.1POL

o    H11dG6723Aformed 5400 ybp, TMRCA 2500 ybp

§  id:SHper200HUN [HU-HB]age

§  id:YF63334

§  id:YF62798SWE [SE-O]

§  id:MF177173.1POL

 

 

MTree 1.02.12917 (24 October 2021)

Scientific sample prefixes and any related scholarly papers are listed 
here.

 

Any submissions to this newsletter can be submitted to Elizabeth Kipp (kippeeb@rogers.com).