Saturday, May 20, 2023

Visitation of Cornwall and Pencombe/Pincombe/Pinkham

 The well know Cornwall Visitation of 1620 which includes references back to 1530 and 1573 does not contain Pencombe/Pincombe/Pinkham/Pyncombe. Mind you these are primarily land-holding individuals but the family in Devon in the 1500s does hold land. Interesting this idea that they came with Lord de la Zouch expressed in the 1620 Visitation. Finding additional support for this would also be interesting but certainly the eldest son of likely John Pencombe  passed property to his sons judging by the Subsidies and his eldest great grandson John left a sizeable fortune in land in his will inventory of 1605 leading one to suspect that the Pencombe family at North/South Molton in the 1500s certainly had acquired a number of properties and the current Lord de la Zouch at that time was a major landowner at North Molton. So more proof of anything is always convenient but the known records certainly tell the story of a prominent John Pincombe at South Molton son of (to quote the Visitation of 1600) "Pyncombe of Northmolton came there with the Lord Zouche about the beginning of H. 7" and his wealth can be traced down into the 1700s quite readily when the bulk of it became the Pyncomb Charity which is both a Trust and a Foundation in this century.  This line did daughter out and Gertrude Pyncombe certainly created a wonderful Charity/Foundation which has continued down through the centuries to the present. 

http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/2011/08/will-of-gertrude-pyncombe-prob-11643.html

This line was armigerous and the most prominent of the Pincombe/Pyncombe/Pencomb/Pinkham families in Devon. 

Since there are no new additions from the newest image to the 1500s worksheet in the Excel file I will carry on looking at those entries and copied from yesterday's Blog.

I did make note that this set of records centers on North Molton still in the mid 1550s but movement out is noted shortly there after using the records. Philip Pencomb/Pynkeham is on the 1544 Subsidy but no records for a Philip Pynkeham/Pencombe in the Tawstock area where he is found (his likely son Edward Pencombe on the 1581 Subsidy). Definitely the mystery person and looking yesterday at the Visitations of Herefordshire I have no sign of Pencombe there but I suspect reduced circumstances followed the Battle of Bosworth Field. There is movement out for Pencombe from North Molton both west and south to south east (Bishops Nympton, Molland) but more movement to the west (Bideford, Roborough by Torrington, Chittlehampton, Barnstaple).  The Charles record does seem somewhat out of context but is a marriage which may have been in the Bride's parish due to prominence of her family (Thomas Pincambe married Johan Rude 16 Oct 1575) but the earlier researchers did give this marriage to the third son of John Pencombe (Thomas2, John1). It is unlikely as it is too distant into the future and Thomas was known to be at East Buckland and Filleigh although not as prominent as his eldest brother he still had property and five children. He was likely deceased much earlier as his widow left her will in 1563 at East Buckland. Checking the original register for Charles in Find My Past and the copy that I see there is likely a faithful reproduction of the original register having read a lot of these early 1500s registers. The priest has mentioned on the flyleaf that the early portion of this register was transcribed by the Rev P Bates Rector (no date given) and the records for baptisms 1608 to 1610, 1607-1608 much decayed.  It is clearly the Parish of Charles, Devon. The surname definitely looks like Rude. The handwriting very legible and the spelling of Pincambe quite clear - no doubt that this is an a rather than an o. The priest does not make note of the home parish of any of the marriages on this page or the continuing page. This does appear to be the only instance of the surname with this spelling in the register. Changing the a to an o and doing a search does not reveal any entries for Charles for the Pincombe family (also checked Pencomb, Pinkham, Pyncomb).

Baptisms

There are six entries for North Molton until  the early 1560s and then one in the 1570s, four in the 1590s. 

There are two entries for Bideford in the 1560s, another in the 1580s and four in the 1590s. 

One entry for Ilfracombe in the 1570s. 

There is one entry in the 1570s for Roborough by Torrington, three in the 1580s and three in the 1590s. 

There is one entry for Chittlehampton in the 1570s. 

There is one entry for Molland in the 1590s. 

There is one entry for Barnstaple in the 1590s.

There is one entry for Bishops Nympton in the 1590s.

Marriages

There are six entries for North Molton until the mid 1560s.

There is one entry for Roborough by Torrington in the 1570s.

There is one entry for Bideford in the 1570s, there are two entries in the 1580s.

There is one entry for Charles in the 1570s.

There is one entry for Barnstaple in the 1590s.

There is one entry for Bishops Nympton in the 1590s.

There is one entry for Abbotsham in the 1590s.

I have been able to attach a descent chart to seven of these marriages and will continue working at this project. 

I find it interesting that this first recorded marriage is 1539 between Margaret Pincombe and Philip Kingdon and think that she is likely a sister to John, William and Thomas sons of John Pencombe. The next set of marriages are for the grandchildren of John Pencombe primarily. 

John Pyncombe married Emet Hodge 1 Jul 1560 at North Molton (John3, Thomas2, John1)

Alice Pyncombe married William Lock 9 Nov 1561 at North Molton (Alice 3, Thomas2, John1)

William Pyncombe married Margrett Gregorye 26 Nov 1564 at North Molton (William3, William2, John1). This William died in 1564 and his widow Margarett married William Squire 26 May 1567.

Marye Pyncombe married George Squire 209 Jul 1567 at North Molton (Marye3, William2, John1)

Eme Pinckham married Philip Upcott 15 Jul Pynke1570 at Roborough by Torrington. It is unknown into which family line she belongs.

Agnes Pynckhin married Thoms Shurtte 12 Jun 1572 at Bideford. Possibly the older daughter of William (Agnes3,William2, John1).

Thomas Pincambe married Johan Rude 16 Oct 1575 at Charles. This would be a great grandson possibly of John1 (Thomas4, Richard3, Thomas2, John1). He died at Roborough in 1578. 

Phillippe Pyncombe married Wilmote Beare 10 Feb 1583 at Bideford. I can not place Phillippe Pyncombe at this time.

Walter Pyncombe married Johanne Pyne 31 Jan 1587 at Bideford. I can not place Walter Pyncombe at this time. 

John Pinckcombe married Jane Sherman 13 Jun 1594 at Barnstaple. Another great grandson possibly (John4, Christopher3, John2, John1) of John Pencombe. This would show that indeed the family lore that the Pincombe family at South Molton moved to Barnstaple (amongst other places) was correct. The will for John does exist and I will check it to see if he names his wife.

Richard Pencom married Joane Row 27 Jul 1599 at Abbotsham. This entry is from the Bishop's Transcripts and written up in Boyd's marriage Index (original image not available).

I did have a look at the Abbotsham possibilities and there are 171 results from the beginning to 1600. Most of them are from the Devon Wills Index. There are no entries for Pincombe/Pyncombe/Pencom/etc (the marriage was from the Transcripts). Abbotsham to Bideford is about 2 kilometres so not unreasonable to find a marriage there in this time period. 

So from the marriages I have four records for whom I have no information - Eme Pinckham, Phillippe Pyncombe, Walter Pyncombe and Richard Pencom. Two records at Bideford, one at Roborough by Torrington and the fourth at Abbotsham. All are in fairly close proximity. Is this a different line (perhaps a sibling to John Pencombe) or a cousin. 

I will now work on the baptisms and see if I can fit them into family lines. There are seven that I can not place into a family line plus the children of Phillippe Pyncombe at Bideford (another four). The other nineteen can be placed with a comfortable degree of accuracy. 

I do have Stoate's information on Devon Taxes 1581 - 1660 and I will check for "different spellings" as I am not sure I have done that thoroughly. 

1581 Subsidy

Bishops Nympton p 34     no entries

Charles p 28       Maculin Rude G 6 (perhaps explains the marriage at Charles, not a huge amount but still substantial)

Chittlehampton p 26     no entries

Molland p 25     no entries

North Molton p 24     Emma Pincombe wid G 3

South Molton p 24     Christopher Pincombe G   4, John Pincombe  G   4, John Pincombe Jr G 3, John Pincombe Sr G 12

Abbotsham p 21     no entries

Bideford p 19     Richard Pincombe    G 6

 Roborough p 17     no entries

Ilfracombe  p 14     no entries

Barnstaple p 12     no entries

1642 Assessment

Abbotsham p 128     Richard Pincombe 6  0, _atherin Pincombe wid 2   0

Interesting day on this work. Spent part of the afternoon gardening and switching the winter items for the summer items between the shed and the garage. Life is always busy for sure. Spread a little garden soil and grass seed in hopes of rain overnight and into today. Still no rain but does look like rain. Time will tell. 

Life will be busy the next couple of weeks getting the garden prepared and planted. Will take it slow although my daughter will do the lions share of the work. If it was me I would just grass it over to be honest even if I do enjoy the product of the gardening. I like to work on my projects more than gardening. I only did it before to help Edward. Edward always bounced back from his hospital visits and was ready to take on the world; hard to keep him from trying actually and he would barely be home before he was planning yet another trip or following through on one planned. I always said he should take it easy and work his way back up again but that wasn't his way. If he felt the least bit strong; he was ready to go. And travel became his big thing for sure. Resting and slowly working his way back was never his way. 

So today I continue looking at the Tax records - yesterday I went by surnames entries and today I will do the parishes just to make sure that nothing was missed in the indexing. I will do the parishes around the known parishes as well. I also want to learn more about Herefordshire and its records just to see if I can find a Philip Pencombe there. I am curious if perhaps this individual was a close relative of the  likely John Pencombe who came with Lord de la Zouch to North Molton. I must also check out the de la Zouch family to see if there is anything on line about them. Although it is dubious that any records actually exist on a family level from that time period that would mention the people who came with him to North Molton in the early part of the reign of Henry VII - that is pretty optimistic to think that there could be! But I shall have a look just to be thorough. 

Waiting for rain and time for breakfast. That is how this day is going to flow at the moment. 

Although the world news (Glory to Ukraine and prayers for Sudan as well; may our world yet find peace) and the continuing events in our own political life are in my mind, I retire once again to my quiet spot working on my projects. But my eye is ever trained on possibilities and I do agree with Conrad Black that the oil and gas industry are very important to Canada. Buying the pipeline was a good idea and it belongs to the Canadian people and well managed could well prove to be one of the best investments the government has made in this new century. Propping up a private industry with government funds is not my idea of a good plan; but actually owning the industry that is a different story and I definitely do not want to see it sold (a bad habit of the Conservative governments in this present century) although would be willing to see it transferred to the rumoured First Nations Consortium. The First Nations leaders have proven to have good ideas and they know the land. What is Canadian we should keep Canadian! Prime Minister Mulroney did well as our leader and people should have just realized that the GST was and is an excellent idea for funding the government - reducing it was a disaster. We need Progressive Conservatives; occasionally I do see inklings of that in the now Conservative Party but not enough. Mostly they are just social conservatives without any real direction or purpose.



 

 


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