Will of John Lanham and the will of his wife Grace Lanham, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England - The National Archives PROB 11/709/125 and PROB 11/726/346

I was trying to locate my Lanham/Lannum family in Wiltshire and came across this set of wills that was rather interesting and since I transcribed them I will insert them into this blog. I am fairly sure that I do not have a direct relationship with this Lanham family in Trowbridge.

Date: 31 May 2015
Document: Will of John Lanham
Source: The National Archives PROB 11/709/125
Date of document:  20 Feb 1721/22, probated 23 Apr 1741
Location: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Document quality: 18th century English, writing fairly legible, bold small print

[In margin] John Lanham
1    In the Name of God Amen
2    I John Lanham of Trowbridge in the County of Wilts, Clothier
3    being of sound and perfect mind and memory do make and
4    declare this my last Will and Testament in manner and form
5    following that is to say Imprimis I bequeath my Soul into the
6    hands of Almighty God my Creator and Redeemer and my
7    Body I Commit to the Earth to be decently buryed at the discretion
8    of my Executrix herein after named And as for and touching
9    such Worldly Goods as it hath pleased Almighty God to bless me
10    with I give and dispose thereof as follows that is to say I give
11    and bequeath to my three Sisters Mary, Em and Jane Five
12    pounds apiece to be paid to them respectively in a year after my
13    decease Item I give and bequeath to the three Children of my
14    Brother William Lanham Five pounds apiece to be paid to them
15    respectively when they shall attain to the age of One and twenty
16    years Item I give and bequeath to the four Children of my Sister
17    Abigail Palmer Five pounds apiece to be paid to them respectively
18    when they shall attain to the Age of One and twenty years Item
19    I give and bequeath unto William Lindsey of Studley in the
20    Parish of Towbridge aforesaid Broad weaver the Sum of ten
21    pounds Item I give and bequeath unto Rebecca Harding the
22    Sum of Five pounds Item I give and bequeath unto the deacons
23    for the time being of the Congregation or Society of Christians
24    now assembling at Trowbridge aforesaid Baptized on profession
25    of their Faith in Christ by some people called Anabaptists
26    the Sum of One hundred pounds but upon this Special trust and
27    Confidence that is to say that the deacons of the said Congregation
28    for the time being do place the said Sum of One hundred pounds
29    out at Interest or else lay the same out in Lands of Inheritance in
30    Fee Simple the Interest or proceed whereof my Will is shall from
31    time to time and for ever hereafter be payd in and to the Sole use
32    of the Pastor or Minister (for the time being) of the Church or
33    Congregation aforesaid And my Will and desire is that the three
34    last above mentioned Legacies be paid on One year after my decease
35    and I do desire my Loving Friends John Watts of Trowbridge
36    aforesaid Gentleman and William Temple of the same place
37    Clothier to be Overseers of this my Will and do constitute and
38    appoint my Beloved Wife Grace Lanham Executirx hereof To
39    whom I give all the rest of my Goods and Chattells after my
40    debts Funeral Expences and Legacys be first paid and discharged
41    And I do hereby revoke all former and other Wills heretofore by
42    me made In Witness whereof I have hereunto Sett my hand and
43    Seal this Six and twentieth day of February in the Eighth year
44    of the Reign of Our Sovereign Lord George by the Grace of God
45    of Great Britain France and Ireland King defender of the Faith
46    etc Annoqz d[omi]ni 1721/2. The mark of John Lanham. Signed Sealed
47    published and declared by the Testator to be his last Will and
48    Testament in the presence of us who have in his presence and at
40    his request hereunto subscribed our Names James Gaunton
50    Char Aland
51    This Will was proved at London the twenty third
52    day of April in the year of Our Lord One thousand Seven hundred
53    and Forty One Before the Right Worshipfull John Bettesworth
54    Doctor of Laws Master Keeper or Commissary of the Prerogative
55    Court of Canterbury lawfully constituted By the Oath of Grace
56    Lanham Widow the Relict and Executrix in the said Will named
57    to whom Administration was granted of all and Singular the
58    Goods Chattels and Credits of the said deceased being first Sworn
59    by Commission duly to Administer



Date: 31 May 2015
Document: Will
Source: The National Archives PROB 11/726/346
Date of document:  5 Jan 1741, probated 26 May 1743
Location: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Document quality: 18th century English, writing fairly legible, bold small print

[In margin] Grace Lanham
1    In the Name of God Amen
2    I Grace Lanham of Trowbridge in the County of Wilts widow being
3    of Sound and disposing Mind Memory and Understanding do make
4    and ordain this my last Will and Testament as followeth that is
5    to say, my Body I commit to the Earth and my Soul to God who gave
6    such as to my Worldly Estate I dispose thereof as followeth that is
7    to say I give to my Son William Macey and his heirs all that
8    Copyhold Messuage or Tenement with the several closes pieces
9    and parcells of Lands thereunto belonging Situate at or near
10    Keevil in the County of Wilts now in the occupation of the Widow
11    Dalmer or her undertenants and by her held during her widowhood
12    the Inheritance whereof descended and came to me as heir at
13    Law to my late dear Brother John Watts upon his death To hold
14    to the said William Macey his heirs and assigns for ever Item I
15    give and devise to my Son in Law Jonathan Reynols and his heirs
16    all those severall closes pieces and parcells of Meadow pasture and
17    Coppice lands situate and being in the parish of North Bradley in
18    the said County of Wilts which also descended and came to me on the
19    death of my said Brother as heir at Law to him To hold to the
20    said Jonathan Reynols his heirs and Assigns for ever And as to
21    all the Rest and Residue of my Estate of what nature or kind
22    soever or wheresoever I give and bequeath the same to my Sons
23    Daniel Macey William Macey and the said Jonathan Reynols to
24    be equally divided between them and I do hereby Constitute and
25    appoint the said William Macey and Jonathan Reynolds Executors
26    of this my Will revoking all former and other Wills at any time
27    heretofore by me made In Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my
28    hand and Seal the Fifth day of January in the Year of our Lord
29    One Thousand Seven hundred and Forty one Grace Lanham Signed
30    Sealed published and declared by the said Grace Lanham as and
31    for her last Will and Testament in the presence of us who in her
32    presence have hereunto subscribed our Names as Witnesses Chas
33    Aland John Thrapnell Jno Renison Servant to Wm Coles the Sadler
34    This Will was proved at London the Twenty sixth day of
35    May in the Year of our Lord One Thousand Seven hundred and
36    Forty three before the Right Worshipfull John Bettesworth Doctor
37    of Laws Master Keeper or Commissary of the Prerogative Court
38    of Canterbury lawfully constituted by the oaths of William Macey
39    and Jonathan Reynols Executors named in the said Will To
40    whom Administration was granted of all and Singular the Goods
41    Chattels and Credits of the said deceased being first Sworn by
42    Commission duly to Administer

52 Ancestor Challenge - Benefits

Doing the 52 Ancestor Challenge and for me looking at 52 of my 64 4x great grandparents has been a very beneficial procedure. I have corrected some material. I have found information that had passed me by since I last looked at some of these lines. I have added generations to some of my lines. The latest find was a correction for the surname of one of my 4x great grandmothers married to George Lywood and her surname should be Lanham/Lannum not Canham. I never could find a Canham even close to Wiltshire let alone in Wiltshire so this has been a major find.

The eight 4x great grandparents that are left out will include four of the ancestral lines for my great grandmother Ellen Taylor. I only have family lore to connect her back in time so I will leave that until we have been to Birmingham (Warwickshire) and done the planned research there. I will do an unknown Taylor likely as I suspect he is from Ireland.

I want to do this project again next year but it will be the 3x great grandparents of my daughters and son in law. That will mean doing 32 for our son in law as I have found all of them and then 16 for my husband as again he has found all of them and four of my 2x great grandparents which should be the parents of Ellen Taylor which I hope to have made a breakthrough on after our trip to Birmingham plus two others.

It is sort of a make over process except I have already proven most of my 3x great grandparents's lines so proceeding to the 4x great grandparents was a marvelous idea.

Ethnicity Estimate - Tests at FT DNA, Ancestry and 23 and Me compared

I now have three Ethnicity Estimates looking at my autosomal DNA.

FT DNA
European 96%
British Isles 51%
Scandinavia 33%
Western and Central Europe 12%
Asia Minor 3%
North Africa 1%

Ancestry
Europe 99%
Great Britain 64%
Ireland 14%
Europe West 11%
Scandinavia 6%
Iberian Peninsula 1%
Europe East  less than 1% Italy/Greece less than 1% Finland/Northwest Russia,  less than 1% Melanesia

23 and Me
European 99.9%
British and Irish 54.2%
French and German 14.4%
Scandinavian 2.0%
Northern European 27.9%
Southern European 0.3%
European 0.8%
Ashkenazi 0.2%
Oceania 0.1%
North Africa 0.1%
Undetermined 0.1%

A bird's eye view of my results says that I have 51%-78% British Isles Ancestry, I have 2%-33% Scandinavian Ancestry, I have 11%-42.5% Northern European Ancestry with the rest all being less than 1%.

The largest ancestry is my British Isles Ancestry and 14 of my great great grandparents were born, lived and were buried in England (two exceptions buried in Canada although both born in England) and their ancestors for the most part going back in time except for two brickwalled lines where I do not know their ancestry. Comments have been made that 23 and Me comes the closest to accuracy with their estimation. A French and German component of 14.4% is huge although compares to 11% Europe West at Ancestry and 12% Western and Central Europe at FT DNA. I think that my results do rather merge together although Ancestry has given me a very high percentage of British Isles at 78%.

Time frame for these estimations would be rather interesting to look at but I do not think it will necessarily break down those brick walls that I have with  firstly my maternal grandmother's mother although knowing the mtDNA may one day help with that particular line and secondly my 3x great grandfather Christopher Buller's parents. They are definitely a mystery and quite a formidable brickwall at least they appear to be given the amount of research I have put into that line at London Metropolitan Archives. However, I have a new piece of information that may be helpful the next time we are there.

I can not resist thinking of these brickwalls when I look at these estimates! I do not yet have my matches at 23 and Me. They are to come in the next week or so. But I have already uploaded my Ancestry and my FT DNA Family Finder results to Gedmatch so do not expect to find anything but the database at 23 and Me is huge. It is just that I know all of my American cousins on the Buller line but I do not know if any of them has ever tested.

All in all I am probably finished testing myself unless I do do BritainsDNA. That would be a late fall project as I save up my loonies. Would I really learn anything more? Well, I have done my brother but we are not close matches at FT DNA in terms of shared cMs - we are at the far limit for full siblings which is a good thing because we do not have our parent's DNA results and having a variety of results from siblings can help us to look at what the parents might have been. So doing myself at BritainsDNA might paint a rather interesting picture of our ancestry.

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John Farmer (1717 - 1771)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 21

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, Durnford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterel, Bartlett, Alderman,  Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Canham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

When I first searched for the baptism of Isaac Farmer (husband of Elizabeth Lambden) back at the beginning of my research days in 2003, I only found one entry that would fit because I have both his death date and burial dates at Andover and his listed age at death. Even expanding that for a couple years either way led me to the same baptism for an Isaac Farmer son of John Farmer. John is my next 4x great grandfather to be reviewed in this 52 Ancestor Challenge. Can I find anything that will permit me to positively identify John as one of my 4x great grandparents.

Working first with Isaac who himself is a bit of a mystery in terms of what he worked at and why he died relatively young. My first sight of him was signing the marriage registration with Elizabeth Lambden with a perfect hand. His letters neatly formed and his signature a work of art really. They married 16 Aug 1789 at Andover St Mary. Elizabeth lived at Woodhouse and her father also neatly signed the marriage registration although not with as perfect a hand as Isaac. This couple were to baptize six children at Andover St Mary:

William baptized 16 Aug 1789
Sarah baptized 27 May 1792
Mary baptized 21 |Jan 1795
Martha baptized 9 Feb 1798
John baptized 20 Sep 1801; buried 3 Apr 1814
Ann baptized 11 May 1804 (and my ancestor)


Ann married John Blake 4 Sep 1823 at Andover St Mary. However did John who was born at Upper Clatford meet Ann? Upper Clatford is just 1 mile to the south of Andover but still Andover was a large town even in those days. Questions I could have asked my grandfather had I been older or had he lived younger but at the age of eight when he died I have only retained so much of what he did tell me. His grandmother Ann (Farmer) Blake had lived right next door to him in Upper Clatford until she died when he was eighteen years of age.

Isaac was buried 18 Mar 1808 at Andover St Mary when Ann was just under four years of age. No cause of death was given in the death register but his age was said to be 44 years which brings one back to 1764 and the baptism 6 May 1764 at Collingbourne Kingston does seem like a good fit; a reasonable area in terms of Andover since these two places are just eleven miles apart.

Returning to the story of John Farmer having set the scene. A new search has revealed documents held at the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre:

Reference:     9/12/77
Description:    
Lease and release in fee, (1) John Farmer of Collingbourne Kingston, husbandman, and Mary, his wife, (2) William Macham of Doctors' Commons, in the City of London, Ll.D. House, garden and mead plot (½ a.) in the tithing of Brunton, in the parish of Collingbourne Kingston.

Consideration: £50. Bond for performance enclosed.
Date:     8-9 October 1756
Held by:     Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, not available at The National Archives

There are just the two John Farmers at Collingbourne Kingston and in 1756 John Farmer junior was married to Mary (unknown) and they had two sons William and John at that time.

Children baptized by John and Mary at Collingbourne Kingston:

William baptized 19 Mar 1753
John baptized 12 Dec 1756
Joseph baptized 9 Sep 1759
Jacob baptized 3 Jan 1762; buried 14 Aug 1764
Isaac baptized 6 May 1764

John himself is likely the John Farmer baptized 31 Mar 1717 at Collingbourne Kingston the son of John Farmer and his wife Mary Acars who were married 3 Oct 1709 at Collingbourne Kingston.She is quite likely the Mary Acres baptized 12 Oct 1681 at Collingbourne Kingston daughter of  Thomas and Mary Acres.

Another interesting set of documents from the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre:

Reference:     9/12/73
Description:    
Mortgage for £35 by lease for 500 years, (1) John Farmer of Collingbourne Kingston, husbandman, (2) William Mist of Collingbourne Kingston, yeoman.

House, garden and mead plot (½ a.) lying in the tithing of Brunton in the parish of Collingbourne Kingston.

Bond enclosed.
Date:     2 November 1730

Reference:     9/12/70
Description:    
Feoffment, (1) John Reeves of Collingbourne Kingston, husbandman and Joan, his wife, (2) John Farmer of Collingbourne Kingston, husbandman.

House, garden and mead plot (½ a.) lying in the tithing of Brunton, in the parish of Collingbourne Kingston.

Consideration: £40.
Date:     15 March 1718

Held by:     Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, not available at The National Archives

The baptisms of William and John had listed John Farmer, their father, as John junior but the next baptism, that of Joseph, had been simply John and Mary Farmer but perhaps was just an oversight on the part of the priest. Mary the wife of John Farmer the elder was buried 8 Feb 1761 and in 1771 is recorded the burial of John Farmer 15 Oct. Was this John Farmer the elder? Do these land records all pertain to John Farmer senior?

Were both John Farmers on the same plot of land and were both husbandmen. There are a few other Farmer records at Collingbourne Kingston and I suspect they are all one family. I did photograph some of them but not a sufficient number to really put this family together accurately other than this father and son relationship.

The image of John Farmer, likely 5x great grandfather, is one of a husbandman who in 1718 (just after the birth of his son John in 1717) had obtained in consideration of £40 a piece of property that was to be utilized by both father and son until 1771 likely when John senior died (the land assessments in 1780 show Andrews on this piece of property).


Other Farmer records at Collingbourne Kingston imaged by myself or from Family Search (italics):

Thomas son of Thomas Farmer baptized 30 Apr 1674
Elizabeth daughter of Thomas Farmer baptized 15 May 1677
William son of Thomas Farmer baptized 29 Dec 1679
John son of Thomas Farmer baptized 30 Oct 1682
Susanna daughter of Thomas Farmer baptized 27 Nov 1685
Jane daughter of Thomas Farmer baptized 25 Sep 1704
John son of William Farmer baptized 25 Sep 1705
William son of William Farmer baptized 2 Apr 1708
Mary daughter of John Farmer baptized 4 Sep 1714
Sara daughter of John Farmer baptized 4 Sep 1714
John Farmer son of John Farmer baptized 31 Mar 1716
Mary daughter of William Farmer, labourer, baptized 17 Nov 1727
Ann daughter of William Farmer, labourer, baptized 4 Oct 1730
William son of William Farmer, labourer, buried 29 Mar 1732
Elizabeth daughter of William Farmer, labourer, baptized 27 Jul 1733
Sarah daughter of William Farmer, labourer, baptized 11 Apr 1737
Mary wife of John Farmer senior buried 8 Feb 1761

From Find My Past:
There is a marriage of William Farmer and Jane Sheffeild at Collingbourne Kingston 20 Feb 1704.


Ancestry of John Farmer:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Ernest Edward George BLAKE (b 20 Aug 1904) - Eastleigh Hampshire England
3. Samuel George Blake (b 10 Feb 1875) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
4. Edward Blake (b 2 Jan 1845) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
5. Ann FARMER (b 19 Apr 1804) - Little London, Andover, Hampshire England
likely
6. Isaac FARMER (b 6 May 1764)  - Collingbourne Kingston Wiltshire England
7. John FARMER (b 31 Mar 1717) - Collingbourne Kingston Wiltshire England
8. John FARMER (b 30 Oct 1682) - Collingbourne Kingston Wiltshire England
9. Thomas FARMER

Did I solve the mystery as to whether or not John is absolutely mine? I think likely can be applied given the wide search for possibilities for Isaac Farmer's baptism. I have looked at my images again  and added in some material from Family Search that permits the separation of the two families found in the 1700s into sons of Thomas Farmer (John and William). The marriage for each of these sons is now known with John marrying Mary Acres (daughter of Thomas and Mary Acres also of Collingbourne Kingston). I shall have to share this work with my Farmer cousin in England although he may have also discovered this material.

Joanna King (1736 - 1792)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 20

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, unknown, Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, Durnford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterel, Bartlett, Alderman, Ann (unknown), Sherwood, unknown, Habberfield, Collings, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Canham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Joanna King has been known to me from early on in my research days. Joanna was baptized 6 Nov 1736 at Upper Clatford daughter of Thomas King and Mary Carter. She is one of my 4x great grandmothers and she married Joseph Blake 8 Jun 1757 at Upper Clatford. Joseph and Joanna baptized five children at Upper Clatford although the last child, my ancestor, Thomas, was born posthumously six months after the death of his father and his older brother Thomas.

The children of Joseph Blake and Joanna King all baptized at Upper Clatford:

Anne baptized 24 Sep 1758
Thomas baptized 29 Mar 1761 (born 24 Mar 1761), died 25 May 1767 and buried 29 May 1767
Mary baptized 5 Jun 1763 (died before 27 Apr 1792)
William baptized 2 Sep 1764
Thomas baptized 25 Oct 1767 (born 25 Oct 1767)

Thomas (baptized 25 Oct 1767) is my 3x great grandfather and he married Sarah Coleman  10 Jun 1792 at Upper Clatford. Thomas and Sarah had ten children with my ancestor being John Blake who was baptized 25 Feb 1799 at Upper Clatford. John married Ann Farmer 4 Sep 1823 at St Mary Andover and they had nine children with their youngest son Edward being my great grandfather. Edward was born 2 Jan 1845 at Upper Clatford and he married Maria Jane Knight 29 Oct 1870 at Upper Clatford. They had twelve children and my grandfather was their third child and second son - Samuel George was born 10 Feb 1875 at Upper Clatford. Just to bring that closer to the present.

Going back to Joanna she was one of three children. Her parents were Thomas King and Mary Carter who married 10 Jan 1728 at Upper Clatford. I have transcribed the CMBs at Upper Clatford and the Carter family records are as follows:

Baptisms
Cartar    Susana    daughter    Cartar    Henery            1655    June    16   
Cart__    Mary    daughter    Cart__    William            1675                   

Cartar    William    son    Cartar    William        Jane    1676    December    13           
Cartar    John    son    Cartar    William        Jone    1678    September    29           
Cartar    Thomas    son    Carter    William        Jane    1680    April    7           
Cartar    Elizabeth    daughter    Cartar    Thomas            1684    February    16           
Carter    Susana    daughter    Carter    Thomas        Susana    1640    October    11           
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Thomas            1643    May    21           
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Hendree        Elizabeth    1653    December    22           Carter    Peetar    son    Carter    Mickaele            1654    January    16        
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Thomas        Mary    1666    February    6           
Carter    John    son    Carter    John            1667    September    3           
Carter    John    son    Carter    Thomas        Elizabeth                1704    January    7
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    John        Jane                1706    November    8
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    John        Jane                1708    March    5
Carter    John    son    Carter    John        Jane    1714    October    4           
Carter    Johnothan    son    Carter    John        Jane                1718    January    4
Carter    William    son    Carter    John        Jane    1719    January    15           
Carter    Sarah    daughter    Carter    John        Jane    1722    September    15           

Since Thomas King and Mary Carter married in 1728 I would likely be interested in the Mary who was baptized 8 Nov 1706 as a possible candidate for this marriage. She was the daughter of John and Jane Carter and they baptized six children at Upper Clatford between 1706 and 1722.

Marriages
Carter    Thomas        Golde    Susana                    1639    November    25       
Carter    Henry    B___n    Hollis    Katherine    Upper Clatford                1652    January    9       
Carter    John        Turner    Ann                    1706    November    6        both strangers
Carter    Thomas    Goodworth Clatford    Holdway    Ann    Upper Clatford                1730    September    29        Banns

Bendall    John        Carter    Sarah                    1702    August    1
Harding    Thomas        Carter    Sarah                    1729    October    16
Hyde    Joseph        Carter    Susanna                    1695    September    30
King    Thomas    Upper Clatford    Carter    Mary    Upper Clatford                1728    June    10
Pearce    Richard    Small Cross    Carter    Elizabeth    Upper Clatford                1732    July    18

Burials
Carter    Susan    daughter    Carter    Thomas        Susan    1650    March    29   
Carter    Susanna    wife    Carter    Henry             1669    September    17    ealder
Carter    Stephen    son    Carter    Thomas            1669    March    23   
Carter    Mary    wife    Carter    Richard            1670    September    29   
Carter    Thomas                        1698    May    28    senior, died May 21
Carter    Martha Ann                        1698    December    25    died December 23
Carter    John    son    Carter    Thomas        Elizabeth    1704    January    22   
Carter    William    son    Carter    John            1705    October    8   
Carter    Jane    girl                    1706    April    8   
Carter    John                        1713    October    10   
Carter    Elizabeth                        1714    October    11   
Carter    William                        1721    April    10   
Carter    Jane                        172?    October    16       
Carter    Elizabeth    wife    Carter    Thomas            1728    April    8   
Carter    John                        1732    March    29   
Carter    Thomas                        1732    January    15   
Carter    Thomas                        1733    November    3   
Carter    William                        1743    September    22    batchelor
Carter    Elizabeth    widow                    1760    January    25   
Cartter    Jone                        1709    July    19       

The records indicate that this Mary did not appear to die as an infant. John and Jane Carter did not marry at Upper Clatford.

As it turns out I have also trasncribed the parish registers of Andover up to the late 1750s and their Carter records are as follows:

Baptisms
Carter    Joan    daughter    Carter    Phillip            1593    October    18               
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Richard            1603    January    29               
Carter    John    son    Carter    John            1611    September    22               
Carter    Gyles    son    Carter    Gyles            1654    February    12    1654    February    12   
Carter    Robert    son    Carter    Gyles            1664    March    14                Charlton
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Richard            1676    July    3               
Carter    John    son    Carter    Richard            1678    May    12               
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Giles            1679    February    10               
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Gyles            1681    October    25                of Charlton was baptized the 25th October at Knights Enham
Carter    Sarah    daughter    Carter    Giles        Margery    1684    November    26               
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    James        Martha    1690    September    14                of Kings Enham
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Richard        Mary    1685    October    12               
Carter    Margery    daughter    Carter    Gyles        Margery    1686    January    29                of Charlton
Carter    Gyles    son    Carter    Gyles        Margery    1688    October    10               
Carter    Mary    bastard daughter            Carter    Mary    1688    February    6               
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Thomas        Elizabeth    1691    April    8                of Charlton
Carter    Mary    bastard daughter            Carter    Mary    1692    April    2               
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Robert        Martha    1692    May    25               
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Thomas        Elizabeth    1692    December    30                of Charlton
Carter    Katherine    daughter    Carter    Robert        Martha    1695    November    27               
Carter    William                Carter    Mary    1696    September    21               
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Mr. Robert        Martha    1701    March    18               
Carter    Ann    daughter    Carter    Edmond        Ann    1702    April    8               
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1702    April    22               
Carter    John    son    Carter    Giles        Abigaill    1702    December    20               
Carter    Sarah    daughter    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1703    May    21               
Carter    Jane    daughter    Carter    Giles        Abigaill    1704    May    10               
Carter    Edmond    son    Carter    Edmon        Ann    1704    July    30               
Carter    Richard    son    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1704    December    13               
Carter    John    son    Carter    Giles        Abigaill    1706    February    5               
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1707    June    15                of Charlton
Carter    Josiah    son    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1708    December    21                of Charlton
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Giles        Abigaill    1709    November    28               
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1711    February    27      of Charlton
Carter    Anne    daughter    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1713    November    18               
Carter    Giles    son    Carter    Giles            1715    April    5                of Charlton
Carter    Thomas    son    Carter    Thomas            1715    October    9                of Charlton
Carter    Sarah    daughter    Carter    Giles        Sarah    1716    October    10                of Charlton
Carter    John    son    Carter    Richard        Elizabeth    1717    April    26               
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Giles        Sarah    1718    October    15               
Carter    William    son    Carter    William        Elizabeth    1722    November    9               
Carter    Richard    son    Carter    William        Elizabeth    1724    July    29               
Carter    Edward    son            Carter    Elizabeth    1726    May    11               
Carter    Edward Barns    bastard son            Carter    Elizabeth    1728    February    23              Carter    thomas    son    Carter    thomas        elizabeth    1733    October    5            
Carter    Josiah    son    Carter    Joseph        Ann    1750    August    6               
Carter    Charles    son    Carter    Joseph        Ann    1756    September    21           
Carter    Richard    son    Carter    Joseph        Ann    1756    September    21           
Carter    William    son    Carter    Joseph        Ann    1756    September    21           
Cartere    Abigall    daughter    Cartere    Henry        Elizabeth    1707    September    17               Cartor    Richard    son    Cartor    Gyle            1656    March    16    1656    March    16    Charlton
Cartor    Mary    daughter    Cartor    Gyles            1661    December    18                Charlton
Cartor    John    son    Cartor    Gyles            1663    November    14               
Cartor    William    son    Cartor    Gyles            1667    March    17               
Cartor    Ann    daughter    Cartor    Gyles            1670    October    17               
Cartor    Anne    daughter    Cartor    Gyles            1683    September    5               
Cartor    Lucy    daughter    Cartor    John            1683    December    6                of Charlton

Marriages
Carter    Philip        Cornelious    Joyce                1592    January    22  
Carter    John        King    Joane                1608    May    22  
Carter    Gyles        Pinchin    Mary                1654    May    30  
Carter    Francis        Gyat    Joan                1682    October    1    by license
Carter    Edmond        Monk    Ann                1700    September    8  
Carter    Richard        Musprett    Elizabeth                1701    August    4  
Carter    Giles        Shepheard    Abigaill                1701    October    6  
Carter    John    Upper Clatford    Wods    Jone                1704    April    16  
Carter    John        Spring    Anne                1713    October    8  
Carter    Thomas        Styles    Elizabeth                1714    September    30  
Carter    John    Hamworthy, Dorset    Chater    Hannah                1715    September    4   at Foxcott
Carter    Thomas        Sharp    Ann                1729    July    15  
Carter    Josiah        White    Elizabeth                1731    April    18  
Carter    Edmund        Drew    Mary                1731    October    14  
Carter    Joseph        Piper    Elizabeth                1731    November    8  
Carter    Thomas        Eatin    Elizabeth                1732    September    21  
Carter    Joseph        Wheatland    Ann                1747    August    3  

Andrews    William        Carter    Mary                1712    January    1   
Broad    Charles        Carter    Elizabeth                1718    February    10   
Colebrook    William        Carter    Elizabeth                1723    May    26   
Dawly    Hugh    Christchurch, London    Carter    Mary    Charlton            1712    August    24   
Green    Hugh        Carter    Mary                1729    September    28   
Houldway    William    St Mary Bourne    Carter    Alse    St Mary Bourne            1653    May    7   
Houldway    William        Carter    Alse                1653    May    7   
Neal    Mr. William        Carter    Katharine                1719    August    25    married at Foxcott
Pickernel    Edward        Carter    Abigaill                1716    September    30   
Ratty    Edmund    St Mary Bourne    Carter    Jone    St Mary Bourn            1686    November    16   
Tarrant    George        Carter    Sarah                1727    August    24   
Woodstock    Edmond        Carter    Elizabeth                1708    June    24   

Burials
Carter        daughter    Carter    Andrew            1588    April    1  
Carter    Mary    wife    Carter    Gyles            1653    March    3    of Charlton
Carter    Giles                        1680    August    2    senior of Charlton, woollen,
Carter    Elizabeth    wife    Carter    John            1681    November    3    of Charlton at Skinners
Carter    Lucy    daughter    Carter    John            1684    August    26    of Charlton
Carter    Richard                        1684    October    8    woollen
Carter    Mary    bastard daughter            Carter    Mary    1688    February    4    woollen
Carter        infant    Carter    Gyles            1689    January    22    woollen
Carter    Margery    wife    Carter    Giles            1690    September    15    of Charlton, woollen
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Robert            1692    February    17    woollen
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Mr. Henry            1695    January    7    woollen
Carter    Margery    daughter    Carter    Giles            1696    October    15    of Charltonwoollen
Carter    Sarah    daughter    Carter    Giles            1700    June    13    woollen
Carter    Mary    widow                    1702    December    17    of Charlton, woollen
Carter    John    son    Carter    Giles            1702    December    26    woollen
Carter    Thomas                        1705    February    25    woollen
Carter    Richard                        1707    September    19    woollen
Carter    Giles                        1710    November    23    woollen
Carter    Ane    wife    Carter    John            1710    February    28    woollen
Carter    Mary    daughter    Carter    Giles            1711    July    30    of Charlton, woollen
Carter    Thomas                        1714    August    27    woollen
Carter    Anne    daughter    Carter    Richard            1714    November    14    woollen
Carter    Thomas                        1715    July    30    woollen, of Charleton
Carter    Giles    son    Carter    Giles            1715    November    26    woollen, of Charleton
Carter    John                        1715    January    10    woollen
Carter    Sarah    daughter    Carter    Giles            1717    September    5    woollen
Carter    Elizabeth    daughter    Carter    Giles            1719    March    21    woollen
Carter    William    son    Carter    William            1722    January    8    woollen
Carter    Mary                        1725    May    29    woollen, widow
Carter    Anne                        1726    August    17    woollen
Carter    Elizabeth    wife    CarterWilliam                1727    September    9  
Carter    William                        1729    November    16  
Carter    Giles                        1732    May    23  
Carter    Elizabeth    wife    Carter    Josiah            1733    June    24  
Carter    John                        1733    July    11  
Carter    Sarah    wife    Carter    Gyles            1742    June    20  
Carter    Hannah                        1744    December    13  
Carter    Richard                        1744    February    19  
Carter    Joseph                        1749    July    19  
Carter    Thomas                        1749    November    27  
Carter    Jonathan                        1752    March    8  
Carter    Ann                        1753    February    21  
Carter    John                        1757    October    16  

John Carter of Upper Clatford married Jane Woods 16 April l704 at Andover. This is the likely parents of Mary Carter who married Thomas King in 1728 at Upper Clatford and were the parents of Joanna King. There is another Mary Carter daughter of Richard Carter and Elizabeth Musprett of Andover (married 4 Aug 1701 with two daughters Mary 1711 and Ann 1713. Anne is likely the daughter of Richard Carter who was buried 14 Nov 1714. This is interesting because I have another Carter marriage of interest and that manages to become part of this story because the husband of Joanna King was Joseph Blake son of Thomas Blake and Ann Carter and they married 8 Dec 1728 at Penton Mewsey. There is another Ann baptized at Andover: Ann daughter of Edmond and Ann Carter baptized 8 Apr 1702.    The reason I think about these families together is the marriage of Joseph Blake of Andover and Joanna King of Upper Clatford. Were they related through their mothers both Carters? Edmond Carter is a bit of an unknown but did marry at Andover (Edmond Carter married Ann Monk 8 Sep 1700 ).

The next item of interest that links families is the will of John Blake, malster at Abbots Ann (blogged: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2013/04/king-family-of-upper-clatford-and-area.html ). All of these places are close to Andover (i.e. within a mile or two). John in his will mentions many Blake family members including my 3x great grandfather Thomas at Upper Clatford, his brother William at Andover, his sister Anne who is likely keeping house for him at Abbots Ann. John Blake married Mary King 15 Dec 1753 at Upper Clatford and it is the will of Thomas King (blogged: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2011/01/thomas-king-and-joseph-blake.html ) that now helps looking at these families. Thomas mentions the daughter of John Blake and Mary King at Abbots Ann and he also mentions his son in law Joseph Blake. Although I am unable to find a baptism for Mary at Upper Clatford or Andover, the coincidence of mentioning the children in the will of John Blake and Thomas King tend to make me believe that Mary King and Joanna King were sisters who both married Blake men. However, I do not think these Blake men are closely related but rather the relationship is likely quite distant with a common ancestor of Richard Blake who died in 1522. My suspicion is that Mary Carter (wife of Thomas King) is the daughter of John Carter and Jane Woods. Jane was living at Andover likely at the time of her marriage to John and possibly her first child (Mary King) was born there. The two younger sisters of Mary King (Elizabeth who died young in 1735) and Joanna baptized 1736 were both baptized at Upper Clatford. This would make John Blake an uncle through marriage to my Thomas Blake of Upper Clatford.

So was Edmund Carter related to John Carter? Was it the Carter line that brought these two lines together since the Blake lines coming together is quite ancient? Although I have blogged earlier that both Mary Carter and Ann Carter were sisters and daughters of Richard Carter and Elizabeth Musprett I now believe that to be incorrect as I missed the burial of their daughter Anne at Andover and the baptism of Mary at Upper Clatford.

Jane Wood was baptized 26 May 1684 daughter of Edward and Mary Wood at Andover along with her four other siblings. There isn't a marriage for Edward and Mary at Andover. John Carter was said to be of Upper Clatford and there are two John Carter/Cartar baptized at Upper Clatford:

John son of William and Jone 29 Sep 1678

John son of John 3 Sep 1667

There are no William or John Carter marriages at Upper Clatford in this time period. But there is a marriage of John Carter and Anne Spring 8 Oct 1713 at Andover. Interestingly the grandfather of Joseph Blake was Thomas Blake who married Mary Spring 6 Nov 1708 at Andover. Although there doesn't have to be this familial linkage between the families the coincidence of the Carter families and the Blake families does make me look at this possibility. I have traced the Spring family at Andover and Mary does not have a sister Anne. There is a marrage between John Carter and Ann Turner 6 Nov 1706 at Upper Clatford. There aren't any children baptized at Upper Clatford for this couple. Ane wife of John Carter is buried at Andover 28 Feb 1710. There is a John Carter buried 10 Jan 1715 also at Andover. John and Jane Carter do name a son John and a son William!

I knew there was a problem earlier with having Anne and Mary sisters and daughters of Richard Carter and Elizabeth Musprett but I am surprised by the direction my research has taken. I have moved away entirely from Richard Carter and Elizabeth Musprett as the parents of Mary Carter who married Thomas King at Upper Clatford. It fits better given that John Carter was of Upper Clatford when he married Jane Woods at Andover. No new information on Edmund Carter but will keep an eye out for that in the future.

My intent was to look more closely at the King family and I became somewhat distracted by the Carter families.

Thomas King was buried 10 Oct 1762 at Upper Clatford (his wife Mary was buried 13 Apr 1744 at Upper Clatford). I know that Thomas was a farmer at Upper Clatford.  But I am not sure of his parentage.

Marriages at Upper Clatford
Kinge    John        Irish    Agnis                    1577    July    8       
Kinge    John        Sweetaple    Joane                    1578    November    26       
Kinge    John        Milles    Marie                    1588    November    24       
Kinge    Stephen        Poore    Joane                    1591    August    7       
Kinge    Thomas        Nuell    Margarite                    1592    October    1       
Kinge    John        Harrell    Elizabeth                    1602    November    8       
Kinge    William        Grene    Margerie                    1603    October    16       
Kinge    Nicholas        Newell    Mary                    1634    December    1       
Kinge    Robart        Leach    Joan                    1635    August    20       
Kinge    Stephan        Walldron    Sarah                    1643    June    5       
Kinge    Steven        Spring    Alcs                    1661    April           
King    Jonathan        Silveste    Joane                    1671    May    27       
King    Robert    Whichurch    Lock    Alice    Upper Clatford                1725    September    5       
King    Thomas    Upper Clatford    Carter    Mary    Upper Clatford           1728    June    10   

Baptisms at Upper Clatford
King    Edward    son    Kinge    William            1571    July    28               
King    John    son    Kinge    John            1581    March    12                the miller
King    William    son    King    William            1614    September    21                born St Matthews Day
King    Mathias    daughter    King    William            1620    April    23               
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    William            1634    May    25               
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    William            1635    February    1               
King    Nicholas    son    King    Nicholas        Mary    1641    December    4               
King    Margaret    baseborn daughter            King    Katharine    1642    April    29               
King    John    son    King    Robert        Jone    1642    August    14               
King    Roberte    son    King    Robert        Jone    1643    February    29               
King    John    son    King    Robart        Jone                1646    September    15   
King    Jonathan    son    King    Thomas        Margaret    1646    February    8               
King    An    daughter    King    William        Elizabeth    1647    September    26               
King    Stephen    son    King    Stephen        Sara    1648    December    7               
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Nicolas        Mary    1648    January    17               
King    James    son    King    Robert        Jone    1649    November    7               
King    James    son    King    James        Elizabeth    1650    March    27               
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    William        Elizabeth    1651    September    16               
King    William    son    King    Robert        Jone    1652    July    10               
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas        Margaret    1652    October    24               
King    Mary    daughter    King    James        Elizabeth    1653    October    19               
King    Isacke    son    King    Steeven        Sarye    1653    December    22               
King    William    son    King    William        Elizabeth    1654    May    9               
King    William    son    King    Thomas        Margarit    1655    December    10               
King    James    son    King    James        Elizabeth    1657    April    7               
King    John    son    King    William            1660    May    17               
King    Thomas    son    King    James            1660    October    10               
King    John    son    King    Stephen            1663    November    15               
King    Johanna    daughter    King    Jonathan        Joane    1672    April    24               
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    William            1682    January    7               
King    Ann    daughter    King    Steeven        Ann    1684    January    29               
King    Abigall    daughter    King    Thomas            1685    November    10               
King    Sarah    daughter    King    John            1685    November    16               
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas        Abigall    1688    February    28               
King    Jonathan    son    King    Thomas        Abegal    1693    November    29               
King    Ann    daughter    King    John        Sarah    1695    July    5    1695    July    1   
King    John    son    King    James        Sarah    1696    March    4    1696    February    20   
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    John        Sarah    1698    January    4    1698    January    4   
King    Abigall    daughter    King    John        Abigaill    1701    January    20    1701    January    20   
King    Sarah    daughter    King    John        Sarah                1705    April    15   
King    ___eph:    son    King    John        Sarah    1706    March    17    1705    March    17   
King    Isacke    son    King    John        Sarah    1709    May    13               
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Thomas        Mary    1735    June    8               
King    Joanna    daughter    King    Thomas        Mary    1736    November    6               
King    John    son    King    John        Mary    1743    June    19                Rooksberry
Kinge    Elizabeth    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1572    March    15               
Kinge    Eliner    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1577    August    30               
Kinge    Roberte    son    Kinge    John            1579    March    16                of the mill, New Style
Kinge    William    son    Kinge    John            1579    December    16                senior
Kinge    Mawde    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1580    September    30               
Kinge    Alice    daughter    Kinge    John            1582    March    1                senior, New Style
Kinge    Richard    son    Kinge    John            1584    February    19                New Style, senior
Kinge    Thomas    son    Kinge    Nicholas            1585    April    18               
Kinge    Thomas    son    Kinge    John            1586    March    13                senior, New Style
Kinge    Nicolas    son    Kinge    John            1589    September    3                the younger senior
Kinge    William    son    Kinge    John            1590    April    8                senior senior
Kinge    William    son    Kinge    John            1590    December    21               
Kinge    Alice    daughter    Kinge    Stephen            1592    September    16               
Kinge    Andrew    son    Kinge    John            1594    March    6                elder, New Style
Kinge    Elner    daughter    Kinge    John            1594    March    24                junior, New Style
Kinge    Agnes    daughter    Kinge    George            1595    July    16               
Kinge    George    son    Kinge    Thomas            1595    August    27               
Kinge    Joane    daughter    Kinge    John            1596    December    24                ild
Kinge    Joane    daughter    Kinge    George            1597    September    2               
Kinge    Mary    daughter    Kinge    Thomas            1598    October    18               
Kinge    Elizabeth    daughter    Kinge    John            1599    October    3               
Kinge    Rose    daughter    Kinge    Thomas            1601    March    29               
Kinge    John    son    Kinge    John            1602    February    4                New Style
Kinge    Mawdline    daughter    Kinge    Thomas            1603    November    6               
Kinge    Elizabeth    daughter    Kinge    John            1603    December    16               
Kinge    Nicholas    son    Kinge    John            1604    January    25               
Kinge    William    son    Kinge    William            1605    March    4               
Kinge    Roberd    son    Kinge    John            1605    November    12                wd, New Style
Kinge    Margaret    daughter    Kinge    John            1606    April    25                the elder
Kinge    Stephen    son    Kinge    John            1614    April    3                the younger
Kinge    Abigaell    daughter    Kinge    Richard            1616    September    1               
Kinge    Katherine    daughter    Kinge    William            1617    June    1                William is the son of John Kinge the elder, shepherd
Kinge    Joane    daughter    Kinge    John            1617    March    15                the younger
Kinge    Mary    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1636    April    16               
Kinge    Joan    daughter    Kinge    Robert            1636    June    18               
Kinge    Nicholas    son    Kinge    Nicholas            1637    November    26               
Kinge    Mary    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1644    March                    cease
Kinge    Agnes    daughter    Kinge    James        Elizabeth    1654    February    1               
Kinge    John    son    Kinge    William        Elizabeth    1656    December    15               
Kinge    John    son    Kinge    Steeven            1657    March    19               

Burials at Upper Clatford
King    William                        1594    January    22    the elder, New Style
King    Joane    daughter    Kinge    George            1604    July    17   
King    Mary    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas        Mary    1638    September    9   
King    Elizabeth    wife    Kinge    John            1638    November    15   
King    Joan    wife    Kinge    Roberte            1639    August    7   
King    Nicholas    son    Kinge    Nicholas            1639    September    14   
King    John    son    King    Roberte        Jane    1642    August    17   
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas            1642    October    11   
King        wife    Kinge    William            1642    January    10    New Style
King        baseborn            King    Katherine    1648    May    22   
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Stephen        Sarah    1651    April    24   
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Stephen        Sarah    1652    October    1   
King    James    son    Kinge    Jams        Elizabeth    1653    June    4   
King    Mary    daughter    Kinge    Jams        Elizabeth    1653    November    11   
King    Elizabeth    wife    Kinge    William            1655    April    8   
King    John                        1656    May    4    senior
King    John    son    Kinge    William            1656    January    5    _der
King    William    son    Kinge    Thomas        Margrit    1658    August    19   
King    Jams                        1660    May    20   
King    Sary    wife    Kinge    Steven            1660    November    2   
King    William    son    Kinge    William            1662    March    15   
King    Robert                        1666    October    1   
King    Joane    wife    Kinge    Nicholas            1666    January    14   
King    Sarah    daughter    Kinge    Stephen            1666    January    23   
King    Nicholas                        1669    March    21   
King    Jonathan    son    Kinge    Thomas            1671    November    18   
King    Stephen                        1672    October    7    junior
King    Mary    widow                    1673    November    2   
King    Thomas    son    Kinge    Thomas        Abigell    1695    August    26   
King    Jonathan    son    Kinge    Thomas            1695    February    22   
King    Thomas                        1699    March    9    senior, died March 7
King    Ann    daughter    Kinge    John        Sarah    1699    March    14    died March 12
King    Sarah                        1702    October    24    junior
King    Elizabeth                        1700    June    4    junior
King    Thomas                        1703    September    10   
King    Sara    child            King    Sarah    1704    April    29   
King    Sarah                        1704    April    29   
King    Sarah    daughter    King    John            1705    April    24   
King    Isaac    child    Kinge    John        Sarah    1710    January    30   
King    Sarah                        1715    December    25   
King    Abigal                        1726    February    28   
King    John                        1731    January    8   
King    Stephen                        1732    March    2   
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Thomas            1735    August    20   
King    Thomas                        1740    March    29   
King    William                        1741    November    18   
King    Mary    wife    King    Thomas            1744    April    13   
King    John                        1750    December    21    of Rockesbury (Rockway), miller
King    Thomas    widower                    1762    October    10   
King    Daniel                        1799    October    27   
Kinge    Edwarde    son    Kinge    William            1571    August    28   
Kinge    Margarite    widow                    1577    June    7   
Kinge    Maud    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1580    November    1   
Kinge    William    son    Kinge    John            1584    July    22    senior
Kinge    Thomas    son    Kinge    Nicholas            1586    July    19   
Kinge    Ellin    daughter    Kinge    Nicholas            1586    July    20   
Kinge    Nicholas                        1588    March    8    New Style
Kinge    Roberte    son    Kinge    William            1589    May    21    miller
Kinge    Nicholas    son    Kinge    John            1589    November    21    the younger senior
Kinge    William                        1590    July    15    miller
Kinge    Richard    son    Kinge    George            1592    December    3   
Kinge    John                        1601    September    5   
Kinge    John    son    Kinge    John            1602    May    8   
Kinge    Elizabeth    daughter    Kinge    William            1635    February    6    New Style
Kinge    Anne    widow                    1638    January    14    New Style
Kinge    Ann    daughter    Kinge    William        Anis    1640    February    7    New Style
Kinge    Jonathan    son    Kinge    William        Anis    1640    February    16    New Style
Kinge    William                        1660    August    28    senior


Marriages at Andover
King    Robert        Fielder    Francis                1655    December    8    
King    John        Morell    Sarah                1676    January    16
King    Richard    East Cholderton    Smith    Anis    East Cholderton            1684    June    15   
King    Thomas    Stockbridge    Humber    Eloner    King Somborn            1705    December    30
King    Thomas    Cholderton, Amport    Atkins    Jane    Cholderton, Amport          1721    May    2
King    John    Upper Clatford    Hyde    Frances                1725    December    4   
King    John        Munday    Frances                1743    March    15   

Baptisms at Andover
King    Jonathan    son    King    Thomas            1646    February    9              
King    Robert    son    King    Robert            1656    August        1656    August        Woodhouse
King    Isaacke    son    King    John            1677    December    6              
King    Abigail    daughter    King    Isaac            1679    March    10              
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Isaac            1682    July                  
King    Sarah    daughter    King    Isaac            1683    March     16              
King    Abigaile    daughter    King    Isaac        Abigaile    1686    May    5              
King    Thomas    son    King    Isaach            1691    April    4              
King    Stephen    son            King    Sarah    1694    May    10              
King    Mary    daughter    King    Isaach            1698    October    28    1698    February    26  
King    Mary    daughter    King    Thomas        Mary    1704    January    14              
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas        Mary    1706    December    15              
King    John    son    King    Isaac        Abigaill    1711    November    21                junior
King    Mary    daughter    King    Isaac        Abigaill    1713    March    3                junior
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Thomas            1715    September    14              
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Isaac        Abigail    1717    March    27              
King    John    son    King    Mr. Isaac        Abigail    1719    November    12              
King    Rebecca    daughter    King    Thomas        Joanna    1720    April    27              
King    Isaac    son    King    Mr. Isaac        Abigail    1722    January    15              
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas        Joanna    1726    January    27              
King    Isaac    son    King    Thomas        Hannah    1728    January    8              
King    Hannah    daughter    King    Stephen        Hannah    1733    April    3              
King    Stephen    son    King    Stephen        Hannah    1735    January    13              
King    Mary    daughter    King    Stephen        Hannah    1738    August    2              
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Stephen        Hannah    1741    April    21              
King    Sarah    daughter    King    John        Mary    1748    April    27              
Kinge    Margerye    daughter    Kinge    John            1612    February    2              
Kinge    John    son    Kinge    John            1619    September    19              

Burials at Andover
King    Mary    daughter    King    John            1642    January    17   
King    John                        1645    May    12    senior
King    Mary    wife    King    John            1676    September    7   
King    Isaac    son    King    Isaac            1680    July    2    woollen, 60M67-4-1, 2,6
King    Abigaill    daughter    Kinge    Isaac            1681    October    13    woollen
King    Abigaill    daughter    King    Isaac            1686    November    2    woollen
King    Mary    daughter    King    Thomas            1704    January    19    woollen
King    Sarah    wife    King    John            1705    August    21    woollen
King    John                        1706    January    14    woollen
King    Mary    wife    King    Thomas            1710    July    28    woollen
King    John    son    King    Isaac            1714    December    15    woollen
King    Jane    wife    King    Thomas            1715    October    8    woollen
King    Rebecca                        1719    May    6    woollen
King    Richard                        1719    May    20    woollen
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas            1728    December    15   
King    Thomas    son    King    Thomas            1728    December    22   
King    Elizabeth    daughter    King    Mr. Isaac            1733    February    5   
King    Peggy    daughter    King    Thomas            1734    August    9   
King    Mr. John                        1746    November    8   
Kinge    John                        1586    March    18   
Kinge    Joan                        1587    April    25   
Kinge        daughter    Kinge    Thomas            1589    April    23   
Kinge    Elizabeth                        1589    May    21   
Kinge        daughter    Kinge    Thomas            1615    May    3   
Kinge    Martton                        1625    April    27    of Charlton
Kinge    Thomas                        1630    January    4   
Kinge    …..h    son    Kinge    Richard            1640    May    8   

Family Search gives me the following:

Thomas King baptized 15 Dec 1706 at Andover son of Thomas and Mary King
Thomas King baptized 29 Jan 1684 at Vernham's Dean son of Thomas King


Thomas King baptized 25 May 1696 at Broughton son of Thomas and Rachel King
Thomas King baptized 1705 Kingsclere son of Thomas and Dorothy King

Thomas King baptized 4 Apr 1691 at Andover son of Isaach King

I would tend to eliminate Rachel and Dorothy as mothers since the daughters were named Mary, Elizabeth and Joanna. Thomas King at Andover married to Mary is rather interesting as they name a daughter Mary, they have a son Thomas born in 1706,  his second wife is Joanna. Could he be my 5x great grandfather Thomas King? As one can see the King family at Upper Clatford is very large - larger than the King family at Andover which is a larger place.

There is one other piece of information that could one day help me to determine the parents of Thomas King and that is the Manor Books. Thomas was farming at Upper Clatford. He left everything to Joseph Blake in his will. Joseph died just five years later and about fourteen years after that Joanna (King) Blake married (4 Jun 1781 at Upper Clatford) another farmer Thomas Collins (his wife had died in 1779). Joanna was buried 2 Jan 1792 at Upper Clatford five months before her son Thomas married Sarah Coleman.

Ancestry of Joanna King


1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Ernest Edward George BLAKE (b 20 Aug 1904) - Eastleigh Hampshire England
3. Samuel George Blake (b 10 Feb 1875) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
4. Edward Blake (b 2 Jan 1845) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
5. John BLAKE (b 25 Feb 1799) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
6. Thomas BLAKE (b 25 Oct 1767) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
7. Joanna KING (b 6 Nov 1736) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
8. Thomas KING

An interesting search into the King family. Still no further ahead with the parents of Thomas King but certainly some interesting information for the Carter family.