Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Phasing recommenced

Recommenced phasing of the parent's DNA with one section X being worked on by one sibling and I am working on Chromosome 22. Wanted to try a particular pattern working on the shortest one and it does appear to be working well. I created a Mendelian Genetic Chart showing the different combinations. With five sets of data (four complete and one integrated in from FT DNA) I am getting better results than with the FT DNA data on three people. That is to be expected because five is always better than three! I continue to be amazed at how I am the one that is different. I guess when you feel different in a family then perhaps you actually are!

I am just starting now to write to cousins to see if they would be willing to test. That would let me work on my grandparent's DNA as well. Curiosity about DNA led me to genealogy back in the early 2000s and it continues to lead my research. I still delve into a lot of old records but the DNA helps me to focus on particular lines. A match in any of those lines helps to verify the research that I do further back in some lines - Lywood is a good example where I now have two separate DNA matches at AncestryDNA which are between seventh cousins. There do not appear to be any other lines on which we are related and these are 4th to 6th cousin matches. One would assume that I inherited more on my Grandmother's Blake side to have these matches show up so strongly. Once I have tested one of my brothers at Ancestry DNA I will see how his matches compare to mine. A project for this next month actually is getting that test kit mailed out.

Tuesday, September 29, 2015

Will of Archibald Forster 1767

I received a transcription from a correspondent in Australia of the Will of Archibald Forster. The abstract I have published several times on my blog and a few weeks ago I published a revised abstract from this correspondent. I have now been provided with a full transcript of that will and add it here to that discussion on the Routledge family of Oakshaw from which I descend. The original abstract had distracted me from the set of parents that I thought were parents of my Grace Routledge who married George Routledge. I knew from my mother that these Routledge marriages were of first cousins according to her. Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Routledge descendants of Henry Routledge and Margaret Tweddle and George Routledge and Grace Routledge were not first cousins but rather 2nd cousins once removed. Discovering the will abstract I began to surmise that Grace's parents were Mary Routledge of Kirkbeckstown and Thomas Routledge of Hill. However another researcher knew that the Mary Routledge, widow, referred to in the will was married to a John Routledge and that her surname was not Routledge. That was good news actually as it took me back to Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Storye as the parents of Grace.

The will:

In the name of God Amen, I Archibald Forster of Cleughside in the parish of Bewcastle and County of Cumberland being in perfect health and sound understanding and disposing memory and constitute and absolutely ordain this to be my last will and testament in manner and form following, That is to say Inprimary I do give and bequeath and devise unto my friend Alexander Kennidie and his wife Sibella of Cleughside all my personal and real estate subject to my funeral expenses and the legacies hereafter mentioned as followth
Item: -  I give and bequeath unto my relation Sibella wife of the abovenamed Alexander Kennidie of Cleughside my house or houses at the Lineholmford Miln Damhead in the parish of Stapleton with the garth or gardings to her own proper use and chooses …… (illeg) her.
Item:- I give and bequeath unto Hellenor the wife of Robert Henderson the sum of twenty pounds sterling. Also I give and bequeath unto Catherine daughter of the said Robert Henderson the sum of one pound ten shillings. Also I give unto the rest of said Robert Henderson’s children the sum of one shilling each
Item:-  I give and bequeath unto John Kennidie son of the abovenamed Alexander Kennidie of Cleughside the sum of thirty pounds sterling and the one half of all my sheep that I die possessed of.
Item :-  I give and bequeath unto William Kennidie son of the abovenamed Alexander Kennidie of Cleughside the sum of thirty pounds sterling and my clock and my Bible and my bed that I lie on and the one half of all my sheep that I die possessed of.
Item:-  I give unto Catherine Kennidie daughter of the said Alexander kennidie of Cleughside the sum of thirty pounds sterling.
Item:-  I give to Elizabeth Kennidie of Cleughside the sum of twenty pounds sterling. I also order that the several sums bequeathed to Alexander Kennidie of Cleughside’s children that his or her sum be payed as they separately arrive at the age of twenty one years.
Item:-  I give unto Mary Routledge widow of Crossgreens or Strandheads the sum of one shilling and I give unto Grace Routledge her daughter the sum of one pound ten shillings because she was named after my deceased sister. Also I give to Mary daughter of the abovenamed widow the sum of one shilling.
Item:- I give unto Adam Routledge and John Routledge and Henry Routledge sons of the abovenamed Mary Routledge widow of Crossgreens the sum of one shilling each.
Item:-  I give unto Catherine wife of Thomas Dowglass of Ash the sum of one shilling.
Item:- I give unto William Routledge son of the late William Routledge of Oakshaw the sum of one shilling.
Item:-  I give unto Henry Routledge of Border Rigg’s three children the sum of one shilling each.
Item:- I give unto George Routledge and his two children of Oakshaw the sum of one shilling each.
Item:-  I give unto Leonard Routledge of Oakshaw the sum of one shilling sterling.
Item:- I give unto John Routledge my sister’s son the sum of one shilling sterling.
I do nominate and appoint the said Alexander Kennidie and his wife Sibella of Cleughside sole joint executors to this my last will and testament to pay all the above legacies, funeral expenses and to receive and discharge all my debts.  In witness thereof I have hereabout set my hand and seal the twenty fifth day of March in the year of our Lord one Thousand seven hundred and sixty six.
Signed: - Archibald Forster
Signed and sealed before these witnesses John Forrester sworn and Francis Armstrong sworn. Sworn witnesses
Proved June 12 1767

It is still quite exciting to see my two 4x great grandfathers mentioned in this will and the reference to George as being of Oakshaw is very handy. I have George traced back a couple of generations but can now be more directional in my research.

Saturday, September 26, 2015

Elizabeth Lanham (1754 - 1829)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 39

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Perhaps one of my greatest discoveries of this past year was the correct spelling of the surname of the wife of George Lywood. Listed as Canham for all the years that I have been researching; finding it to be Lanham has been a breakthrough. I discussed my breakthrough earlier in the year as it was a random search that disclosed it to me:

 http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2015/05/52-ancestor-challenge-benefits.html

Doing the search for the surname Canham and ending up looking for Lanham was a completely random happening which yielded great results. Then entering the corrected surname into my tree at Find My Past was an avalanche of new results permitting hopefully the linkage back to the father of Elizabeth Lanham as Joseph Lanham/Lannum. The marriage of George Lywood and Elizabeth Lanham 18 Jul 1780 at West Harnham fits so clearly into the records for this family. Their children were baptized:

Jane Lywood (no baptism found), married James Tyneham 9 Aug 1797 at West Harnham
John baptized 22 Jan 1784 at West Harnham
George baptized 7 May 1786 at West Harnham (my ancestor)

Elizabeth Lanham could be baptized 12 Aug 1754 at Melksham daughter of Joseph Lannum and Elizabeth Willmore/Wilmar. They themselves were married 22 Sep 1752 at Melksham. Elizabeth was a widow at the time of her marriage.

This Joseph could be the son of Joseph Lanham (clothier) and Hannah Grimshire and they were married 30 Jun 1695 at Amesbury. I have not yet found a baptism for either Joseph or for Hannah who was buried 30 Sep 1739 at Melksham. A Joseph (possible son of Joseph and Hannah) married Agatha Stevens 3 May 1728 at Bradford on Avon. There was a Joseph Lannum baptized 17 Sep 1729 at Melksham son of Joseph and Agatha Lannum. Do these all link together? I had a match on AncestryDNA with another Lywood descendant and I wrote to mention my latest find. He checked it out and came back with "In agreement." But now I would like to look at it in more depth.

Now for a little geography just to make sure that all of these places are in a reasonable distance from each other. The search engine at Find My Past revealed these possibilities to me and I now need to give them a longer look.

Melksham where an Elizabeth Lanham was baptized is 30 miles from West Harnham but Bradford on Avon is closeby Melksham. Amesbury is close to West Harnham. Is it practical to think of Elizabeth as being baptized at Melksham in 1754 and married to George Lywood in 1780 at West Harnham? The marriage of Joseph Lanham and Hannah Grimshire (grandparents of Elizabeth) at Amesbury lends credence to this possibility. Hannah (married at Amesbury) is buried at Melksham where they are living at that time.

Can I find a baptism for Hannah Grimshire? There is a baptism for a Hannah Grimshire 12 Oct 1678 at Amesbury daughter of Thomas and Hannah Grimshire. That would have her only seventeen years old when she married Joseph Lanham at Amesbury and 61 if this is her burial 30 Sep 1739 at Melksham. There is a Thomas Grimsheere married to Hannah Jarvis 25 Nov 1677 at Amesbury. Hannah appears to be the only baptism for this set of parents. Interesting that the spelling of the Lanham name is that at Amesbury but at Melksham one finds Lannum and Lanham.

Another interesting commonality is in the naming of the children of Joseph Lannun (baptized 17 Sep 1729 at Melksham son of Joseph and Agatha Lannum and married to Elizabeth Willmore/Wilar 22 Sep 1752 at Melksham) all baptized at Melksham:

Elizabeth Lannum no baptism found but  buried 20 Jan 1753 at Melksham
Elizabeth Lannum baptized 12 Aug 1754
Agatha Lannum no baptism found but buried 7 Jul 1756 at Melksham

No other children found for this couple. Elizabeth would have been sixteen years of age when her father was buried 6 Apr 1770 at Melksham.

There are no wills for Lannum but there are wills for Lanham at Melksham and other places:

Ref No    Title    Date    Name    Occupation    Community       

P1/12Reg/296B  Will  1770  Lanham, Joseph  Melksham
   
P1/1843/18  Will, wrapper  1843  Lanham, William Randell  Tailor and draper  Salisbury
   
P1/L/257  Administration bond, inventory  1708  Lanham, William  Whiteparish
   
P1/L/487  Will  1770  Lanham, Joseph  Innholder  Melksham
   
P2/1806/57  Will, wrapper  1806  Lanham, William  Cooper  Upavon
   
P2/1819/64  Administration bond  1819  Lanham, Hannah  Widow  Bishopstone, South
   
P2/1820/22  Administration bond, wrapper  1820  Lanham, Edward  Bachelor  Bishopstone, South
   
P2/2Reg/99A  Will  1550  Lanham, John  Martin 

P2/L/102  Administration bond, inventory, will  1605  Lanham, Robert  Martin 
   
P2/L/111  Administration bond, inventory, will  1607  Lanham, Robert  Husbandman  Bishopstone, South
   
P2/L/176  Account, administration bond, inventory  1629, 1630  Lanham, William  Martin  

P2/L/211  Inventory, will  1636  Lanham, Gabriel  Bishopstone, South 
   
P2/L/266  Inventory, will  1661  Lanham, Thomas  Yeoman  Bishopstone, South
   
P2/L/345  Inventory  [1676]  Lanham, William  Lace maker  Martin
   
P2/L/384  Commission, inventory, will  1685  Lanham, John, senior  Broad weaver  Wilton
   
P2/L/458  Inventory, will  1703  Lanham, John alias George  Broad weaver  Wilton
   
P2/L/504  Inventory, will  1712  Lanham, John  Cheesemonger  Wilton 
   
P2/L/518  Administration bond  1713  Lanham, Joseph  Amesbury
   
P2/L/601  Will  1734  Lanham, Thomas  Yeoman  Bishopstone, South
   
P2/L/800  Administration bond  1793  Lanham, Henry  Bachelor  Market Lavington
   
P25/1774/4  Administration bond  1774  Lanham, Henry  Westbury
   
P25/1815/2  Oath, will  1815  Lanham, William  Tiler and plasterer  Westbury
   
P4/1718/18  Two inventories, will  1718  Lanham, Philip  Cooper  Salisbury
   
P5/15Reg/320B  Will  1715  Lanham, Mary  Spinster  Heytesbury
   
P5/1690/28  Inventory, will  1690  Lanham, Mary  Widow  Heytesbury
   
P5/1712/34  Administration bond  1712  Lanham, William  Heytesbury
   
P5/1715/23  Will  1715  Lanham, Mary  Spinster  Heytesbury
   
P5/1749/33  Will, wrapper  1749  Lanham, Richard  Heytesbury
   
P5/1756/20  Will  1756  Lanham, Alice  Widow  Heytesbury

I need to learn more about the Lanham family and why their surname was Lannum at Melksham in the parish records. I did find the Lannum spelling on Family Search. In Find My Past it appears to be Lanham for the same individual. The marriage bond for Joseph Lanham and Elizabeth Wilmar (widow) at Melksham of 1752 lists John Rutty as bondsman. Why are there two wills listed for Joseph Lanham in 1770 at Melksham? Are there two who died in the same year?

Joseph Lanham married at Rowde Hannah Banks of Lacock 23 Aug 1738. Joseph was of Melksham but I am suspicious that his wife Agatha was deceased as no more children after the burial of Agatha.

I also found the Marriage Licence Bonds transcription for Joseph Lannum 3 May 1728 at Amesford with marriage at Bradford. He was a cloth worker living at Amesbury and Agatha Stephens was of Melksham. So it would appear that the Joseph Lannum/Lanham at Amesbury is also the Joseph Lannum/Lanham at Melksham where he was a clothier. Another interesting record for a baptism of Joseph Lanham 6 Oct 1754 at Market Lavington son of Joseph (no other details).

Do I have enough evidence to show that the Joseph Lanham at Amesbury was also the Joseph Lanham at Melksham? It would appear that the marriage bond does give sufficient information. I need to purchase the wills (both are available) although Elizabeth his likely daughter was not married until 1780 so will not likely show any relationship to the Lywood family into which I postulate she married. However did George and Elizabeth meet one is left to ponder but losing her father at 16 years of age probably changed her life especially as that father had gone bankrupt as a clothier in Melksham. If I could learn more about her mother perhaps I could learn more about the daughter and where she was located after her father's death.

I did not yet purchase the wills but will do so eventually.

Ancestry of Elizabeth Lanham:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Ernest Edward George BLAKE (b 20 Aug 1904) - Eastleigh Hampshire England
3. Edith Bessie TAYLOR (b 1 Apr 1875) - Kimpton Hampshire England
4. Elizabeth RAWLINGS (b 19 Oct 1853) - Enford Wiltshire England
5. Elizabeth LYWOOD (b 25 Dec 1826) - Milston Wiltshire England
6. George LYWOOD (b 7 May 1786) - West Harnham Wiltshire England
7. Elizabeth Lanham (b 12 Aug 1754) - Melksham Wiltshire England
8. Joseph Lannum (b 17 Sep 1729) - Melksham Wiltshire England
9. Joseph Lannum
10. Joseph Lanham

More results from 23 and Me Ethnicity

A second brother of mine has tested and I have his ethnicity results to go along with the ethnicity results of another brother and myself reported on earlier. 

Myself                Brother 1                           Brother 2                      %  Region
99.9%                    99.8%                                100%                        European
98.5%                    97.2%                                  99.6%                     Northern European
54.2%                    47.3%                                  58.7%                     British and Irish
14.4%                    20.9%                                  21.2%                     French and German
  2.0%                      1.0%                                    2.9%                     Scandinavian
27.9%                    28.0%                                  16.7%                     Broadly Northern European

  0.3%                      0.9%                                                                  Southern European
                               less than 0.1%                                                    Italian
  0.3%                      0.8%                                                                 Broadly Southern European
  0.2%                      0.2%                                                                 Ashkenazi
  0.8%                      1.5%                                    0.4%                     Broadly European
  0.1%                      0.1%                                                                 Oceanian
less than  0.1%        less than 0.1%                                                  North African and Middle East
                                Less than 0.1%                                                 Sub saharan Africa
   0.1%                     0.1%                         less than 0.1%                Unassigned       

This brother is 99.6% Northern European, 100% European. He doesn't show any of the miniscule amounts that myself and brother 1 show. Interesting but the variety of English genes that make up my family lines is considerably different perhaps from others. I have five waves of immigration from England over a period of slightly less than 100 years from 5 distinct areas.

1818 - Bewcastle, Cumberland
1832 - Etton, East Riding of Yorkshire
1850 - Bishops Nympton, Devon and Selworthy Somerset
1908 - Birmingham, England and Bermondsey, Surrey
         - Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire and Rugeley, Staffordshire
1913 - Upper Clatford, Hampshire and Turnworth, Dorset
         - Enford, Wiltshire and Kimpton, Hampshire

Although this may not appear to be remarkably different considering the size of England most of my ancestors came from small villages dating back in their family lines hundreds of years. Only Birmingham and Bermondsey, Surrey are large metropolitan areas.

Already I can tell with this third mentioned tester at 23 and Me and the fifth one of my siblings to test their autosomal (and other) DNA, that the percentages that we each received from our four grandparents was exceedingly different. Our matches tend to be extreme in terms of how much with most of us being quite different from each other. Phasing of my parent's DNA is the intent of doing all this testing and we are about to begin now working on that. We had started using the FT DNA data but now with several sets from 23 and Me we will proceed.

The next batch of testing is to do at least one sibling at AncestryDNA (I am already there) and perhaps two if I can find a second one willing to do that.

My understanding is that the Ethnic Percentages from 23 and Me tend to be the best picture of our ethnicity. Knowing each one of my siblings I had already formed an opinion on which grandparent that they most resembled and eventually I may take a crack at our grandparent's phased DNA as well. That will require some assistance from cousins and we do not have any first cousins and few second cousins and half-second cousins on both sides of our families. There are a number of third cousins and these will be the ones that I will have to rely on to work on the grandparents. We will see how far I progress with that!

But I do wonder what happened to the minute amounts of southern Europe including Italian, Sardinian, the Middle East and North African found in the rest of us? This latest result is 99.6% Northern European with the 0.4% being broadly European. The lack of this in the one set of results does give me the notion that this one brother received a larger portion of DNA from our maternal grandfather's mother than is perhaps the usual split. Waiting for the matches now to see if this bears out in matches. I think if I could have tested my father I would have found that he too was predominantly Northern European and it is just the Devon/Somerset ancestors that are giving us the southern European/Middle East/North African results.

Wednesday, September 23, 2015

70 as a milestone

Turning each new decade I have found myself intrigued by age and it started with turning 10 years of age. An entire decade old and I can remember thinking about that just as clearly now as if it had been yesterday. I have enjoyed reaching each new decade and continue to do so. Perhaps it was my grandparents who themselves reached each decade with joy and wonderment that they were spared to go forward when others were not that gives me that sense of wow.

But for me 70 has become a milestone where I plan during this next decade to minimize my "work" in genealogy. To start to backtrack and look solely at my own family. Listening to Judy Russell at the New York State Family History Conference I could sense her intense interest in her own family and certainly her talks were mostly about her families. That is the direction that I want to be moving in by the middle of this decade of the 70s and so at this time I dedicate myself to that end of being completely clear of extraneous research in my Blake and Pincombe family around the world. I hope that someone else will pick up the studies but I will consolidate what I have done and lodge it with the Guild and the Society of Genealogists because, even yet, the history of these families belongs to the United Kingdom more than it does anywhere else. I shall lodge the work that I have done on the Irish Blake family with the Record Office in Dublin where it can be found by any future researcher and that will complete the task that I set for myself 10 years ago when I took on the Pincombe family and 4 years ago when I decided to work on the Blake family.

This has been an exciting year for me working away on the Cornwall Blake family as I can see that it can be done area by area and bring together as much as you can and then construct family trees from the material thus accumulated. Hopefully by the end of the year I will have found as much as I can on Cornwall and start to move eastward into Devon. Will I make it to Hampshire through Somerset, Wiltshire and Dorset? I hope so because Hampshire is the home of my Blake family and I have through the years come up with a better understanding for me of my Blake family. Are we all linked in Hampshire? No, already there are two different yDNA lines (not markedly different but still separated by thousands of years) and as more people test their lines we may find even more as there were Blakes in the British Isles from very early dates in terms of people having surnames. The earliest records being in the 1200s thus far.

My thoughts on turning new milestones; enjoy the time that God has given us to walk upon this earth. One never knows the pitfalls ahead; one can only file away the pitfalls that lie behind us.

Why Blake and why Pincombe? My father was a Blake and my mother a Pincombe and so my work has been to remember their families as a tribute to them and those who came before them.

I love this blog. Often enough I do not reflect personally in it but it is interesting for me to go back sometimes and read where I have done so. One's thoughts are always evolving and changing as we age. That child of ten years was looking forward into the future and wondering what 20, 30, etc would be like. The reward for me is that I am still that child of 10 years; that married woman of 20 years; that mother of 30 years; that  "work at home" entrepreneur woman of 40 years; that "return to the workforce" woman of 50 years; that emerging genealogist of 60 years and now that grandmother of 70 years; each decade brings into one's life some new adventure; some change to the status quo that predominated the decade before.

Sunday, September 20, 2015

New York State Family History Conference - 17-19 Sep 2015

We have been away most of September although I have actually blogged quite a bit compared to this past year. The beginning part we were down to Stratford for the Stratford Shakespearian Theatre and it did not disappoint. We saw three great plays; something my husband has always wanted to do through the years and we just never got to it but now this is the third year that we have done that. An absolutely unforgettable experience as the stage at Stratford is phenomenal allowing for the feeling of being right there with the players. I especially enjoyed our last play - The Physicists. It was a most interesting look at nuclear power and how it corrupts but yet it has been a life saver for others in health implications. Harnessing the atom has both its dark side and its extremely bright side.

Then we had our annual Schultz Family Reunion and talking about the Family Tree and testing DNA which was a theme which carried itself on into the next couple of days as we visited several groups of cousins trying to interest them in DNA testing. My husband has had good luck with his mother's side in terms of finding matches and proving lines but wanted to do the same for his father's side of the family. Matches are slowly growing there now and hopefully more. But one side of his mother's family, my husband's maternal grandfather is still lacking any coherent knowledge of the genetic accumulation and so we hope that this visit will result in several people testing and letting us learn more about the Link family which Ed has traced back to Tuningen, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wurttenberg in the late 1600s.

Then we were off to the New York State Family History Conference at Syracuse New York. An excellent conference and of course Ed is still searching for his elusive connection between Isaac Kipp born in 1764 in New York area and Hendrick Hendrickson Kip an emigrant to New Amsterdam/New York in the latter part of the 1630s. Other interests as well but principally solving the Kip line is high on  his agenda. He attended a lot of lectures on searching the early records and what might be there to help you in your quest.

For the most part I attended lectures on DNA and these were given by Blaine Bettinger and Judy Russell, two not to be missed giants in the field of DNA. I attended four of their lectures in total. Two others that I particularly found interesting were given by Matthew Knutzen. He provided two tantalizing lectures on the map collection at the New York Public Library and a crowdsourcing project that has produced interesting results. We have spent many hours at the New York Public Library and their collection of genealogical material is incredible. The map collection completes this textual collection in amazing ways. I also attended a lecture on the records of the DAR as I think they might help to solve the dilemma of Isaac Kipp. One day we must get to their library in Washington although things are coming online rapidly there as well.

The DNA lectures on autosomal DNA by both Blaine Bettinger and Judy Russell were most interesting. I am into autosomal DNA these days and I think that is the direction that family history research will move to for the most part although yDNA is still the leader in strictly surname research. I want to do more with all the autosomal DNA matches that I have been accumulating and I am slowly working through that process. My matches with the Lywood family have proven to be quite interesting even though I already knew that line back into the 1500s. Revealing the matches helps with the sidelines that feed into this family line and that, to me, is the great benefit of autosomal testing. For males I think testing their yDNA and autosomal is an absolute necessity to have it available to pass on to future generations. The mitochondrial is interesting but the other two are imperative. For women the autosomal testing is essential and the mitochondrial again interesting especially if you are brickwalled with your female line back.

The biggest most important item that came out of these talks was the absolute necessity of testing all of your siblings if that is possible and trying to phase your parent's/grandparent's DNA. Blocking them into familial lines is my aim ultimately and I did not see a lot of that discussed but I think it too is the future. No better gift to give to one's parents even though deceased that the ability of their descendants to have at hand all these tools to do as complete family research as possible. One doesn't know who will pick up the threads of one's research in the future so providing them with as many tools as possible is the best way forward.

Friday, September 18, 2015

George Lywood (1750 - possibly 1796)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 38

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

This is the one member of the Lywood family for whom I do not have a death date. The last child of George Lywood and Elizabeth Lanham (married 18 Jul 1780 at West Harnham) was baptized  7 May 1786 at West Harnham. Their other two children Jane baptized 17 Mar 1783 at Stapleford (7 miles from West Harnham, 2 miles from Fugglestone where her father was baptized) and John baptized 22 Jan 1784 at West Harnham.

There is a Lywood one-name study at the Guild of One Name Studies and that was my introduction to One-Name studies actually. Warwick Lywood sent me  an eight generation chart for my Lywood family starting with George baptized 7 May 1786 and going back to John Lywood who died at Compton Chamberlayne and whose son Robert was born at Fovant Wiltshire circa 1581. I was amazed as that was, at that point in time, my furtherest back tree.

George, baptized in 1786, is my Waterloo Veteran. I was very excited to find him. He was also my first ancestor to set foot in Canada as he served at the Halifax garrison in the early 1800s before moving on to the Peninsular Wars and from there to Waterloo with the 23rd Regiment of Foot.

But what of his father? I know absolutely nothing and searches occasionally online have not brought up any particular information. A search on the Wiltshire and Swindon Wills Search  reveals four wills:

Ref No    Title    Date    Name    Occupation    Community       

P2/L/563  Inventory, will  1725  Lywood, William  Burcombe
P2/L/574   Administration bond  1727  Lywood, Andrew  Fugglestone St Peter
P4/1718/21  Administration bond  1718  Lywood, Charles  Salisbury
P4/1727/16  Will  1727  Lywood, Mary  Stratford-Sub-Castle

 William Lywood whose will (not yet available on the Wiltshire site) was probated in 1725 is my 7x great grandfather. He was married to Mary Deart 15 Jun 1686 at Fovant, Wiltshire. They had three children: William (my ancestor) baptized 18 Dec 1687 at Fovant (and married to Sarah Bryan 27 Sep 1710 at Idmiston, Wiltshire), Mary baptized 2 Jun 1689 at Fovant and married to Alexander Marten 2 Apr 1711 at Ebbesborne Wake, Wiltshire and Susannah baptized 8 Mar 1690 and buried 13 Nov 1697 at Fovant.

Andrew Lywood and Charles Lywood I believe are sons of John Lywood and Cicelie Smith who married 21 May 1657 at Compton Chamberlayne. This John Lywood being the son of John Lywood and Sibbell Martin who married 14 Apr 1634 in Compton Chamberlayne. Again this John Lywood was the son of John Lywood  and unknown. One more generation back the father of John was also John Lywood married to Edith Thayer. This couple were initially listed as my 10x great grandparents but for the moment I trace back to Robert Lywood and Alice Baylie who married 10 Jan 1624 at Fovant. Was Robert a son of John Lywood and Edith Thayer, I do not, at present, know the answer.

Mary Lywood at Stratford Sub Castle is unknown to me.
   
The National Archives (UK) has six wills and to the best of my knowledge none of them is related to me but I will look at their wills today:

PROB 11/1776/81  Will  3 Sep 1830  John Lywood  Barton Stacey  Hampshire
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2013/04/will-of-john-lywood-esquire-barton.html
PROB 11/4576/280  Will  7 Oct 1700 John Lywood, Mariner On Board HMS Queen
http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2013/04/will-of-john-lywood-mariner-on-board.html
PROB 11/1137/330  Will  28 Jan 1786  Lady Maria Lywood, Widow of Amsterdam
PROB 11/918/271  Will  9 May 1766  John Lywood, Gentleman Romsey Hampshire
PROB 11/2196/161  Will 11 Aug 1854  Leonard Lywood, Gentleman Barton Stacey Hampshire
PROB 11/713/578  Will  27 Nov 1741 Hugh Lywood, Cooper St Mary Matsellon otherwise Whitechapel, Middlesex

I have put in a link to the blog where any of the wills can be found already transcribed.

The will of Lady Maria Lywood (widow of the Reverend Johannes Christophous Morchard) does not add any details to the Lywood family. The next will for John Lywood, Gentleman, Romsey Hampshire refers to his daughter Mary Morchard and details the Capital Stock in the Bank of England which she mentions in her will. He mentions a grand daughter Anna Anthonietta Helena Morchard.

The will of Leonard Lywood (son of John Lywood at Barton Stacey) and I know is not linked to my George Lywood at this point in time. The ancestry of this Lywood family may go back prior to the 1600s but unknown to me. Contact Warwick Lywood at the Guild of one name studies for more information as he may be able to help with that.

I do not have anyone with the forename Hugh in my Lywood lines but will have a look at his will as well. The parish of St Mary Matfelon is popularly known as St Mary's Whitechapel. He only mentions his wife Sarah in the will (Hugh Lywood married Sarah Prosser 26 Oct 1733 at St Goerge in the East, Middlesex). He is possibly the son of William and Eliza Lywood baptized 19 Aug 1711 at Saint Anne Soho, Westminster. On Family Search there is a son Benjamin Reader Lywood baptized 16 Jul 1740 at St Botolph without Aldgate, London son of Hugh and Sarah Lywood. Looking at the marriage of William and Eliza[beth] Lywood it is likely that they baptized a number of children at Saint Anne Soho namely:

Elizabeth baptized 21 Feb 1700
Mary baptized 30 Jan 1703
Rose baptized 4 Oct 1705
William baptized 19 Sep 170/ buried 9 Dec 1741 St Anne Soho
Hugh baptized  19 Aug 1711
James baptized 25 Feb 1719

and at St James Westminster, Middlesex

Robert baptized 5 Dec 1699

Giving a possible marriage date by 1699 for William Lywood and Eliza[beth] unknown. 

There was a William Leywood baptized 16 Sep 1672 at St Sepulchre, London son of William and Elizabeth Leywood.  There is a burial for William Lywood 21 Nov 1729 at St Anne Soho.

Interesting the extra e in the baptism of 1672. Is this family related to the Lywood family of Wiltshire/Hampshire? It is a fairly rare surname managed by Warwick Lywood at the Guild of One Name Studies.

Using the Public Profiler site (http://www.publicprofiler.org/) and going to Great Britain Family Names Lywood was most commonly found in Wiltshire on the 1881 census with some in Hampshire and a very few in greater London (Twickenham and Croydon). Then looking at the World site Lywood is found in the United Kingdom and Canada with the highest frequency per million in Canada (2.52 as compared to 2.01 in the United Kingdon).

But I did not find a burial for George Lywood, my 4x great grandfather, in this 52 ancestor challenge. I think he may have been alive in 1791 as I find an outpatient admittance in Salisbury 11 Jun 1791 and again 17 Mar 1792. A record I found earlier was for a George Lywood born in 1778 who was buried 15 May 1796 but I can not find a George who fits into that in West Harnham where my Lywood family lived. I wonder if it is an error in transcription and that this George was actually born in 1750 and was 46 when he died. Perhaps one day I will have a look at the original Wiltshire parish registers.

 Ancestry of George Lywood:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Ernest Edward George BLAKE (b 20 Aug 1904) - Eastleigh Hampshire England
3. Edith Bessie TAYLOR (b 1 Apr 1875) - Kimpton Hampshire England
4. Elizabeth RAWLINGS (b 19 Oct 1853) - Enford Wiltshire England
5. Elizabeth LYWOOD (b 25 Dec 1826) - Milston Wiltshire England
6. George LYWOOD (b 7 May 1786) - West Harnham Wiltshire England
7. George LYWOOD (b 11 Nov 1750) - Fugglestone St Peter Wiltshire England
8. George LYWOOD (b 12 Feb 1723) - Fugglestone St Peter Wiltshire England
9. William LYWOOD (b 18 Dec 1687) - Fovant Wiltshire England
10. William LYWOOD (b 22 Oct 1665) - Fovant Wiltshire England
11. Robert LYWOOD (b 1 Mar 1628) - Fovant Wiltshire England
12. Robert LYWOOD (b c 1581) - Fovant Wiltshire England

Wednesday, September 16, 2015

How interested are people in DNA testing?

We spent the past week visiting my husband's relatives in southwestern Ontario and that included the Schultz family reunion as well as smaller visits with individual/groups of cousins. At every group we talked about testing in particular Family Finder but also mentioned 23 and Me as well as AncestryDNA. They all have particular displays that are exceedingly useful and I have tested at all of them. My husband has only tested at National Genographic 1.0 and FT DNA but he could extend his testing if that appealed to particular groups of his family.

We tend to really push autosomal testing as I rather think that that will eventually become the leading test for people to do in order to learn about all of their ancestry. But yDNA is also useful and we do mention that as well. Less so mitochondrial DNA but its value is great especially in the case of minimal information on your direct female line.

Our groups were variable in age so we tried to include reasons to test at any particular age. Testing siblings we really emphasized as I have learned so much from having results for three of my siblings and another is in the process which leaves me only one living sibling that has not yet tested. The other sibling that passed away in 1997 (my eldest brother) has a daughter and at some point I would like to test her (and her mother) to see if I can phase him out of their results.

I am still in the process of phasing our parents' DNA and waiting now for this next set of results. Testing siblings has become the new norm for DNA testing. There is so much to learn from your closest relatives especially when your parents have passed on. AncestryDNA is doing us a real favour by presenting our data as phased and I hope that eventually the other companies will provide that ability as well.

So how much interest did we stir up in DNA testing? Well I would say that three different groups are certainly considering doing testing for my husband. The benefits are enormous to his studies. He is the last of his direct family except for his children/grandchildren and his brother's children/grandchildren/great grandchildren. As we save up our nickles it would be nice to test his brother's descendants if they are willing as well. He also has first cousins and half first cousins although no success with testing them to date. These other groups are second and third cousins.

Once I have done all the testing on my siblings then I can start saving my nickles to test my cousins. I only have second cousins and half second cousins as my nearest cousins and have approached them on occasion to see if I could persuade them to test for particular lines. On my mother's side I have had good luck testing Pincombe and have three cousins now who have tested and the lastest tester matches my sister at 101 Centimorgans so is a really good match for a third cousin once removed. I suspect that we may have another matching line but have not yet found it. Another tester has a Pincombe/Pincombe marriage and so is also a really good result although strongest thus far with my brother although I have another brother testing that I think will be an even stronger match.

The matches that we do have can not always be rationalized into particular lines but I think that will improve as more and more of my closer known cousins test.

Tuesday, September 15, 2015

Pincombe yDNA and its ramifications with respect to the Pincombe - Pinkham one name study

The matches in the Pincombe yDNA this past week have been phenomenal. I had not been able to persuade my closest Pincombe cousins to test (all third cousins) but at last long I do have a 3rd cousin once removed who has tested and he matches 24/25 with a fifth cousin in Australia. The one step out is rather convenient actually.

The Australian cousin descends from William Pincombe (baptized 21 Dec 1769 at Bishops Nympton, Devon son of John Pincombe and Mary Charley who married 8 Nov 1767 at Bishops Nympton) through his son William (baptized 1 Jan 1802 at Bishops Nympton) and he married Maria Torrington 15 May 1822 at Bishops Nympton. They had nine children a number of whom emigrated to Australia.

My recent tester descends from Robert Pincombe (baptized 4 Oct 1775 at Bishops Nympton and also a son of John Pincombe and Mary Charley) through his son Robert Pincombe baptized 2 Sep 1804 at Bishops Nympton) and he married Mary Shapland around 1835. They had two children both born in the United States.

I descend from Robert Pincombe through his son John Pincombe baptized 5 Jul 1808 at Bishops Nympton and married to Elizabeth Rew 9 Jan 1835 at Bishops Nympton. They had five children all born in Molland, Devon and they emigrated to Canada in 1850. John Pincombe was my 2x great grandfather.

A second result in the project matches 34/37 with my third cousin once removed and that particular tester is descendant of the Pincombe family at Barnstaple, Devon. These two Pincombe lines are separated by hundreds of years but interestingly enough they match on DYS458 with our fifth cousin having the value of 18 instead of the 17 which the two other Pincombes show at this particular allele. One is left to conjecture that perhaps 17 is ancestral to the Pincombe family with 18 being a mutation showing up in the descendants of William Pincombe. The other two differences with this other tester are in DYS464 where my cousin has 14,15,16,17 and the Barnstaple Pincombe descendant has 14, 15, 15, 16 as well as at DYS570 where my cousin has the value of 18 and the other tester 17 and also CDY, my cousin has 36-38 and the other tester 37-38. All of these markers are considered fast moving so that a mutation in one of them occurs frequently in people's lines if a mutation does happen.

Hopefully more Pincombe males will test in the study giving us a more complete picture of the Pincombe family.

I also am left with a rather clear answer to the riddle of the Pincombe and Pinkham families. They do appear to be distinctly different. The charts I have do show the tendency in some of the family lines to use the spelling interchangeably.

I now need to do a little research on Pinkham to see how far back I can find this spelling along with Tinkham in Devon and cornwall.

Sunday, September 13, 2015

Pincombe and ydna - a match

The ydna results for my 3rd cousin once removed are now available and there is a 24 on 25 match with our known 5th cousin in Australia. That is 5th cousin to me and fourth cousin once removed to the current testor. The difference of one is actually rather handy as the new testor traces back to Robert and the match from Australia traces back to William both of whom are sons of John Pincombe and Mary Charley.

More to come and I believe that I will start a newsletter for the Pincombe/Pinkham family.

Saturday, September 12, 2015

Jane Morgan (circa 1750s-60s - 1839?)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 37

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

A true mystery woman perhaps, Jane Morgan could possibly be the Jenny Morgan baptized 21 Oct 1750 at Kingston Deverill daughter of Lazarus and Betty Morgan. This is seventeen miles from Woodford however.A name like Lazarus might have passed on one might think but this couple - William Dove and Jane Morgan married 1 Jan 1783 at St Thomas Salisbury did not have good fortune with their children with only Mary and Harry appearing to survive childhood. Plus baptisms do not always appear in the register for this family.

Also at St Martin Salisbury, Jenny Morgan daughter of Daniel and Jane was baptized 7 May 1755 (this couple lived at Salisbury, Salisbury is four miles from Woodford)). 

Moving into Dorset I found a Jenny Morgan baptized to William and Elizabeth at Pentridge 28 Oct 1753 which is just 14 miles from Woodford.

Also in Dorset at Hinton-Martell, Jane Morgan daughter of John and Elizabeth was baptized 27 Dec 1764 (Hinton-Martell is 20 miles from Woodford). 

I do not think it is possible at this time to connect Jane to her parents. Perhaps in the future I could be so lucky.

I found the burial of Jane Dove 2nd quarter 1839 at Amesbury RD. This is perhaps my 4x great grandmother. 

Ancestry of Jane Morgan:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Ernest Edward George BLAKE (b 20 Aug 1904) - Eastleigh Hampshire England
3. Edith Bessie TAYLOR (b 1 Apr 1875) - Kimpton Hampshire England
4. Elizabeth RAWLINGS (b 19 Oct 1853) - Enford Wiltshire England
5. William RAWLINGS (b 1825) - Enford Wiltshire England
6. Mary DOVE (b c 1790) - Woodford Wiltshire England
7. Jane MORGAN


Thursday, September 10, 2015

Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Storye

So I am back to Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Storye as the parents of Grace Routledge. The will abstract turned out to be too good to be true! I should have clued in when I saw George of Oakshaw and two children listed without his wife Grace. She had been buried in March 1767 although having two burials for Archibald Forrester at Stapleton did not help either as one was in 1766 when Grace was still alive. However, the correct one according to the correspondent was in May 1767. There was also the problem of Kirkbeckstown where Mary Routledge married to Thomas Routledge had been baptized and this family appeared to live there.

Thomas and Elizabeth baptized four children at Bewcastle whilst living at Oakshaw, William, Jane, Grace and Leonard. This fits the will abstract as there is a Leonard Routledge of Oakshaw mentioned along with George and the two children (my ancestor Elizabeth and her younger sister Peggy (Margaret)).

Once again this blog has more than proved its worth to me in acquiring new information from other researchers around the world.

This also fits in better with my mother's memory of her Routledge family. Three first cousin marriages although in reality it is more of a first cousin marriage and then a second cousin marriage thus far. Thomas Routledge married to Elizabeth Storye is a brother to Henry Routledge married to Margaret Tweddle. Now to fit George Routledge who married Grace Routledge into the Oakshaw picture!

Revised Ancestry of Grace Routledge:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Helen Louise PINCOMBE (b 18 Oct 1916) - Westminster Township Middlesex County Ontario Canada
3. John Routledge PINCOMBE (b 10 Sep 1872)- Lobo Township Middlesex County Ontario Canada
4. Grace GRAY (b 22 Mar 1839) - London Township Middlesex County Ontario Canada
5. Mary ROUTLEDGE (b 1804 and b 23 Jun 1813) - Bewcastle Cumberland England
6. Elizabeth ROUTLEDGE (b 27 Aug 1763) - (Raw) Bewcastle Cumberland England

Elizabeth's father's line
7. George ROUTLEDGE (b 18 Apr 1729) - (born at Todhills lived at Raw) Bewcastle Cumberland England
8. George ROUTLEDGE (b 10 Mar 1692) - (born at Stubb and lived at Raw) Bewcastle Cumberland England

Elizabeth's mother's line
7. Grace ROUTLEDGE (b 6 Sep 1741) - Bewcastle Cumberland England

Grace's father's line
8. Thomas ROUTLEDGE (b c 1712) - Bewcastle Cumberland England
9. William ROUTLEDGE

Thomas's mother's line
9. GRISSELL ROUTLEDGE

Still a lot to look at and hopefully one of these days some of my Routledge cousins will do Family Finder and we might actually be able to sort out these Routledge lines.

Wednesday, September 9, 2015

Marriage Bond for George Routledge and Grace Routledge

From the Carlisle Marriage Bonds:



1 Feb 1763        George Routledge, Raw, Bc Yeo and Grace Routledge, Oakshaw, Bc.  At Bc
Bond:  Thomas Armstrong, Lowgrains., Bc.  Page 4  [at Bc:  George & Grace, license 16 Jun 1763]

I had forgotten about this record that shows Grace Routledge was of Oakshaw.  Talking to the correspondent re the Will abstract of Archibald Forrester I realized that Grace was buried before Archibald. The will is undated as far as I know but it would appear that he likely knew of the death of Grace. The abstract which was provided by the correspondent:



"Will proved 1767:- Archibald Forrester of Cleughside, Bewcastle.
my friend Arthur Kennedie
my relation Sibilla wife of Alexander Kennedie of Cleughside
Helenor wife of Robert Henderson
Catherine daughter of Robert Henderson
rest of Robert Hendersons children
John Kennedie, son of Alexander Kennedie
Thomas son of Alexander Kennedie
Catherine, daughter of Alexander Kennedie
Elizabeth Kennedie of Cleughside
Mary Routledge, widow of Crossgreens or Strandheads
Mary Routledge’s daughters Grace and Mary
Mary Routledge’s sons Adam, John, and Henry
Catherine wife of Thomas Dowglas of Ash
William son of late William Routledge of Oakshaw
late Henry Routledge of Borderigg’s 3 children
George Routledge and his 2 children of Oakshaw
Leonard Routledge of Oakshaw
John Routledge, my sisters son.
Witnesses to will:- John Forrester and Francis Armstrong."

Reading through this abstract gives you a slightly different impression of the will. Was Archibald Forrester's wife a Routledge or was it that his sister had married a Routledge or both? He mentions that Sibilla Routledge is a relation to him.
Perhaps even more information will be forthcoming. I shall go back and search through some more of my documents as well to see what I can find.

Also the statement that there was only one Archibald Forrester buried at Stapleton in this time period and that was in 1767. So I have perhaps misread the abstract in the long run.

There are two baptisms for Grace Routledge in the 1740s and I will have to look at both of them once again. 

Discussion on Grace Routledge

I had a very interesting email from a descendant of Mary Routledge, widow of Crossgreens or Strandheads in regard to my blog post on Grace Routledge, my 4x great grandmother, one of  my 52 Ancestor Challenges. It was exceedingly interesting to have her perspective and her ancestry in the Routledge family.

 http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2015/08/grace-routledge-c-1736-1767.html

She wrote: "In my family history, I have Mary Routledge (nee Forster) of Strandheads marrying John Routledge at Lanercost in 1730, with their children being:- Adam born 1732 died 1767 at Crossgreens; John born 1738; Catherine born 1739; Henry born 1741; William born 1743 died 1761 at Clatteringford; Grace born 1744 and Mary born 1748.
"I am descended from Mary and John’s daughter Catherine.  She was living at Strandheads at the time of her marriage to Thomas Douglas (also mentioned in Archibald Forsters will), her brother Henry (who was living at Cumcrook, Stapleton at the time of catherine marriage) was the bondsman for their marriage licence.  Mary Routledge died at Cumcrook in 1776, Catherine died at Cumcrook in 1792.  When Catherine’s brother William died at Clatteringford, Catherine and Thomas Douglas were living there as well."
As I mention in my blog post I was having difficulty reconciling the known facts of Mary Routledge married to Thomas Routledge in that she was said to be of Kirkbeckstown and he of Hill with the facts about Mary Routledge, widow of Crossgreens and Strandheads. The writer also accounts for the Douglas family being mentioned in the will in that is her line.
I am most thankful for her comments on the post and her email. I have written back to ask if she has any more information on John Routledge the husband of Mary (Forster) Routledge, widow of Crossgreens or Strandheads.  

It is interesting meeting someone who also shares information on their ancestral line in this will of Archibald Forrester (three of my 4x great grandparents are mentioned in this will abstract) and this is a copy which I received from another Routledge researcher exactly as received (Is he the Archibald Forster buried 8 May 1767 or 2nd May 1766 at Stapleton from Family Search?):


Carlisle Record Office Will of Archibald FORRESTER of Cleughside, Bewcastle [Bc] 1767, pg 63.    [I’ve included this one since it names many Routledges with places]
Grace Forrester, deceased poss. The mother of John Routledge
John Forrester, Wit

Adam Routledge s o Mary, Wid
George Routledge, of Oakshaw, Bc, father of 2 children
Grace Routledge, daughter of [d o ] Mary Routledge, Wid
Henry Routledge, s o Mary R*
Henry Routledge of Borderrigg, dec., father of 3 children
John Routledge s o Mary R*, Wid
John Routledge, my “sister’s son, possibly s o Grace
Leondard Routledge of Oakshaw
Mary Routledge of Crossgreens or Strandsheads, Wid, mother of Grace, Mary, Adam, John and Henry
Mary Routledge, d o Mary, Wid
William Routledge of Oakshaw, deceased, father of William R*
William Routledge of Oakshaw s o late William Routledge
Francis Armstrong, Wit
Catherine Dowglass of Ash w o Thomas Douglas
Thomas Dowglass [sic Douglas] of Ash husband of Catherine
Catherine Henderson d o Robert and Helenor Henderson
Helenor Henderson wife of Robert and mother of Catherine
Robert Henderson husband of Helenor and father of Catherine
Alexander Kennedie  of Cleughside, Friend, husband of Sibella
Catherine Kennedie of Cleughside, d o Alexander
Elizabeth Kennedie of Cleughside
John Kennedie of Cleughside s o Alexander
Sibella Kennedie of Cleughside w o Alexander
William Kennedie of Cleughside s o Alexander

I have coloured this abstract to show her ancestors (green) and my ancestors (blue).  Seeing the entire will would be most helpful. I haven't investigated these other lines mentioned in the will so should perhaps do that if possible. 

There is a marriage of Alexander Kennedy to Sybill Routledge 29 February 1752 at Bewcastle (both of the parish of Bewcastle). Children mentioned in the will abstract include: Catherine, John and William (possibly Elizabeth although it doesn't actually say that). There is a Sybbel Routledge baptized 10 Oct 1726 at Bewcastle daughter of John Routledge. The testator mentions that this Alexander Kennedie is a friend. 

There is a marriage of Robert Henderson and Eleanor Routledge 28 Jun 1750 at Bewcastle (both of the parish of Bewcastle). There is a Catherine Henderson baptized 3 May 1752 at Tanfield, Durham. I was not able to pinpoint a likely baptism for Eleanor Routledge. 

I do happen to have a list of the Marriages at Lanercost For Routledge (alphabetical order by the forename of the Groom):

Routledge    Adam    CARUTHERS    Eliz:    20    Jan    1731    Groom: Hill End            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    Adam    IRWING    Susannah    26    Jan    1758    Groom of Bewcastle, Bride of this parish, Witnesses: Adam Routledge and Thomas Armstrong            Lanercost
Routledge    Andrew    ARNSTRONG    Sybil    8    Jun    1733    Bride: Spadeadam            Lanercost
Routledge    Archibald    ROBSON    Mary    24    Jun    1718    Bride: Reay Hills            Lanercost
Routledge    Arthur    WATSON    Mary    5    Sep    1829    Groom of Walton, bride of parish minor with consent of mother Mary Watson, Witnesses: Barbara Watson and Robert Tweddle            Lanercost
Routledge    Edward    FORSTER    Margaret    18    Jul    1733    Bride: Moorgards            Lanercost
GRAHAM    Eppy    Routledge    Francis    13    Apr    1734    Groom: Askerton Eppy            Lanercost
OVENS    Francis    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    1    Sep    1756    Both of parish, witnesses: John Robinson and John Routledge            Lanercost
KENNEDY    George    ROUTLEDGE    Grace    14    Jun    1810    Groom of this parish a minor, bride of Bewcastle a minor with consent of parents, witnesses: John Bulman and John Heward            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    George    ARMSTRONG    Eliz:    1    Jun    1768    Groom of Bewcastle, bride of this parish, Witnesses: Thomas Armstrong and Marge Routledge            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    George    ROBSON    Jane    28    Aug    1788    Groom of Bewcastle, bride of this parish, Witnesses: Robert Talfourd and Margaret Routledge            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    Henry    TWEDDLE    Margaret    3    Oct    1759    Groom of Bewcastle, Bride of this parish, Witnesses: Thomas Tweddle and Grace Routledge            Lanercost
ARMSTRONG    James    ROUTLEDGE    Rachel    20    Oct    1743                Lanercost
Routledge    Jno    ROBSON    Mary    27    May    1728                Lanercost
Armstrong    John    ROUTLEDGE    Sarah    19    Jun    1813    Groom of this parish, bride of this parish a minor with consent of parents, witnesses: George James and John Magee            Lanercost
BLACKLOCK    John    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    24    Mar    1821    Both of this parish, witnesses: Joseph Rowntree and Mary Heward            Lanercost
HOWARD    John    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    2    Nov    1768    Both of this parish, Witnesses: Nanny Routledge            Lanercost
OLIVER    John    ROUTLEDGE    Margaret    11    Nov    1828    Both of this parish, witnesses: Simon Snowdon and Jane Routledge            Lanercost
Routledge    John    ARMSTRONG    Catherine    4    Apr    1678    groom: Bewcastle, bride: Spadeadam            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    John    Hoodless    Elizabeth    7    Mar    1780    Groom of this parish, bride of Brampton, Witnesses: John Brougham and Frances Routledge            Lanercost
Routledge    John    TOMPSON    Margt    28    Nov    1712    Groom: Abbey-Mill            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    John    TWEDDLE    Anne    24    Dec    1760    Groom of Kirklinton, bride of this parish, witnesses: Nathan Routledge and Anne Graham            Lanercost
STEEL    Jonathan    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    21    Jul    1810    Groom of Bewcastle, bride of this parish, Witnesses: Elizabeth Potts and Thomas Routledge            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    Joseph    IRVING    Elizabeth    5    Mar    1811    Both of this parish, witnesses: John Bird and John Magee            Lanercost

Routledge    Robert    ARMSTRONGE    Eliz:    18    Jun    1698    Groom: Smith-steads            Lanercost
TWEDDLE    Joseph    ROUTLEDGE    Margaret    17    Aug    1794    Groom of Bewcastle, bride of this parish, witnesses: George Routledge and Mary Shortrigg            Lanercost 
ROUTLEDGE    Robert    CALVERT    Mally    7    Jan    1796    Both of this parish, Witnesses: William Lee and Nichols Maughan            Lanercost
Routledge    Robert    MAWERS    Mary    13    Oct    1737    Bride: Swaits            Lanercost
NOBLE    Simon    ROUTLEDGE    Grace    5    Jan    1768    Groom of Bewcastle, bride of this parish, Witnesses: Joseph Potts and William Armstrong            Lanercost
Routledge    Tho:    ARMSTRONG    Magdalen    27    Feb    1690    Groom: Bewcastle            Lanercost
Routledge    Tho:    HETHERTON    Anne    23    Nov    1710    Bride: MoreGards            Lanercost
GARDHOUSE    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Isabella    12    Nov    1809    Groom of Greystoke, bride of this parish, witnesses: Matthew Routledge and John Magee            Lanercost
GRAHAM    Thos:    ROUTLEDGE    Isabella    2    Sep    1740    b of Upper Denton            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    Thos:    RIDLEY    Frances    17    Jan    1754    Bride of Kirkcambeck            Lanercost
ROUTLEDGE    Thos:    SCOTT    Mary    1    Jun    1762    Groom of this parish, bride of Kirkandrews upon Esk, Witnesses: William Appleby and William Graham            Lanercost
ALLEN    Walter    Routledge    Margt    19    Jul    1715    Groom: Greensborne            Lanercost
TAYLOR    William    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    23    Jun    1829    Groom of Haltwhistle, NTH, bride of this parish, Witnesses: John and Jane Elliot            Lanercost
Some of these marriages are in either my direct line or are related to my direct line as known by me and they are bolded.

The Routledge marriages at Bewcastle:

ARMSTRONG    Willm.    ROUTLEDGE    Abigail    5    Feb    1733        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    John    ROUTLEDGE    Eliz.    14    May    1744        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    James    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth    28    Nov    1725        Groom of Lanercost, Bride of this parish        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    John    ROUTLEDGE    Ellinor    19    Nov    1725        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    Andrew    ROUTLEDGE    Grizill    10    Jul    1677        Certificate from Mr. Andrew Pringle, minister from Castleton        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    John    ROUTLEDGE    Isobel    22    May    1744        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    Joseph    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    4    Dec    1735        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    Robt.    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    7    Jun    1735        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG    William    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    13    Jun    1749        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ARMSTRONG,    Robert    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    24    Nov    1808        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: Clement Armstrong and Grace Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
BARNES,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Ann,    21    Sep    1793    Wigton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, single, license, witnesses: Adam and Richard Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
BELL    Willm.    ROUTLEDGE    Agnes    16    Nov    1667    botp    banns published, curate certified        Bewcastle                                                                   
BRECKINS    John    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    28    May    1719        botp        Bewcastle                                                                   
CROZIOR    Wm.    ROUTLEDGE    Isabell    4    Sep    1755        bop, license        Bewcastle                                                                   
DAVISON    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Margt.    14    Feb    1751        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
DIXON    Abraham    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    6    Jun    1711                Bewcastle                                                                   
DODGSON    John    ROUTLEDGE    Grisel    26    Nov    1741        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
DODGSON,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Ann,    25    Jun    1790        minor (w consent of parents), minor (w consent of mother), license, Witnesses: John and Robert Dodgson        Bewcastle                                                                   
DOWGLASS    Thos.    ROUTLEDGE    Catharine,    15    Dec    1763        license.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ELLIOT    Joseph    ROUTLEDGE    Hannah    22    Jul    1713                Bewcastle                                                                   
ELLIOT,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Mary,    31    Jan    1793        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: William Armstrong and William Lauder (banns published at Stapleton)        Bewcastle                                                                   
EWART,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    18    May    1790        bop, bach, single, license, witnesses: Thomas and Mary Armstrong        Bewcastle                                                                   
 

FORESTER    William    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    27    Jun    1738        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
FORESTER,    Edward    ROUTLEDGE    Rachel,    11    Nov    1783    Bewcastle (groom), Walton (bride)    widr, single, license, witnesses: Robt. Dodgson and John Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
FORRESTER    Francis    ROUTLEDGE    Ann    28    Nov    1745    Kirkandrews (groom), Bewcastle (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
                                                        
FORSTER    Andrew    ROUTLEDGE    Jennat    6    Dec    1712                Bewcastle                                                                   
FORSTER    John    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    2    Dec    1747        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
FOSTER    John    ROUTLEDGE    Isabell    26    Nov    1708                Bewcastle                                                                   
FOSTER    William    ROUTLEDGE    Jannet    8    Jun    1698    Ash (groom), Cragges (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
GOODFELLOW,    Robert    ROUTLEDGE    Margret,    8    Jan    1789    Lanercost (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, single, banns, witnesses: John and Mary Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
GRINDLEY,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Isabella,    17    May    1783        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: John Armstrong and Robert Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
HARDING    Christopher    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    24    Jul    1712                Bewcastle                                                                   
HARDING,    Arthur    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    7    Jun    1800    Lanercost (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, spinster, license, witnesses: John Routledge and Christopher Harding        Bewcastle                                                                   
HAUGHAN,    Nicholas    ROUTLEDGE    Isabella,    14    Nov    1796        bop, bach, wid, license, witnesses: William Richards and Elizabeth Nixon        Bewcastle                                                                   
HENDERSON    Robert    ROUTLEDGE    Eleanor    28    Jun    1750        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
HENDERSON    Will.    ROUTLEDGE    Illinor    16    Nov    1676                Bewcastle                                                                   
HENDERSON    James    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    12    Aug    1744        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
HENDERSON,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Dorothy,    11    Jan    1773        bop, banns, widr and spinster        Bewcastle                                                                   
HETHERINGTON    Jo.    ROUTLEDGE    Eliz.    26    Jun    1701                Bewcastle                                                                   
HETHERINGTON,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Jane,    11    Feb    1771        Fearlam Parish (groom), bride otp, banns, bachelor and spinster        Bewcastle                                                                   
JACKSON,    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    9    Oct    1794    Walton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, minor (with consent of William her father), witnesses: James Smith and Robert Goodfellow        Bewcastle                                                                   
JOHNSTONE,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Mary,    22    Jan    1782    Middleby (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, single, license, witnesses: Thomas Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
KENNEDY    Alexander    ROUTLEDGE    Sybill    29    Feb    1752        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
KILE    Andrew    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    6    Nov    1718        Kirkandery (groom), otp (bride)        Bewcastle                                                                   
LITTLE,    James    ROUTLEDGE    Jane,    18    Apr    1781    Walton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, single, banns, witnesses: Thomas Halliburton and Francis Armstrong        Bewcastle                                                                   
LITTLE,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Margret,    19    Feb    1805        bop, bach, single, license, witnesses: James Little and Mary Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
LITTLE,    Robert    Routledge    Mary    15    Jun    1775    bop (by license); witnesses: John Routledge, James Little            Bewcastle                                                                   
MILLAR,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Isabella,    29    Jul    1795        bop, widr, single, banns, witnesses: William Grindley and John Lattimour        Bewcastle                                                                   
MILLAR,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Jannet,    8    Nov    1796        bop, bach, spinster, license, witnesses: Gideon Millar and Elizabeth Talford        Bewcastle                                                                   
MILLER,    Gideon    ROUTLEDGE    Magdalene,    21    May    1772                Bewcastle                                                                   
MILLICAN,    John    ROUTLEDGE    Margaret,    15    Feb    1809        bop, bach, minor (with consent of mother), license, Witnesses: William Routledge and Mary Millican        Bewcastle                                                                   
Nichol    Francis    Routledge    Hannah    9    Feb     1774    bop            Bewcastle                                                                   
NIXAN    William    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth    22    Nov    1698    Slacks (groom)            Bewcastle                                                                   
NIXON    William    ROUTLEDGE    Eleanor    14    Jun    1744        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
NIXON    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth    3    Feb    1687                Bewcastle                                                                   
NIXON    Jno.    ROUTLEDGE    Frances    8    Jul    1737        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
NIXON,    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    13    Dec    1779        bachelor, spinister, bop, license, witnesses: Syvil and Richd.Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
NOBLE    Andrew    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    7    Nov    1692                Bewcastle                                                                   
NOBLE    James    ROUTLEDGE    Magdalen    18    May    1665                Bewcastle                                                                   
PIGG,    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Ann,    7    Dec    1811        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: William and Mary Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
PIGG,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Nancy,    21    May    1795        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: John Routledge and James Davidson        Bewcastle                                                                   
POTT    Richd.    ROUTLEDGE    Eliz.    25    May    1743    Bewcastle (groom), Lanercost (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
RENNICK,    William    ROUTLEDGE    Mary,    24    Jun    1778        bop, banns, bachelor, spinister, witnesses: George and William Forester        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROBSON    Clement    ROUTLEDGE    Mabel (Isabell)    4    Dec    1751    Lanercost (groom), Bewcastle (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Adam    ARMSTRONG    Elinore    3    Jul    1677    Belbanke (groom)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Adam    ASHBRIDGE    Rachel    25    Jan    1768    license    Bewcastle (groom), Halfmorton, N Britain (bride), license        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Adam,    HENDERSON,    Jane    13    Jun    1758    Bewcastle (groom widr)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Andrew    WILSON    Elizabeth    28    Apr    1668                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Andrew    BOUSTEAD    Mary    12    Nov    1755    Bewcastle (groom), Brampton (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    14    Nov    1733    Flatt    botp        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Archbald    NIXON    Eliz.    8    Jul    1703                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Archibald    NIXON    Jane    14    Jun    1716        botp        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Arthur    FORSTER    Katharine    1    Aug    1717        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Arthur    ELLIOT    Nancy    12    Dec    1768    Lanercost (groom), Bewcastle (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Robert    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    13    Jul    1767        bop, license.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    William,    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    7    Nov    1804        bop, bach, single, license, witnesses: John and Elizabeth Nixon        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    George    ROUTLEDGE    Grace,    16    Jun    1763        license.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    George,    PATTISON,    Hannah    10    Mar    1804    Lanercost (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, single, license, witnesses: Thomas Robson and Frances Messenger        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    George,    ARMSTRONG,    Margaret    17    Jun    1812    Stapleton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    widr, wid, license, witnesses: James Nixon and Jane Graham        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Jam.    ARMSTRONG    Ellinor    28    Nov    1677    Craggs (groom)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    James    ROUTLEDGE    Ellinor    1    Jun    1665                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    James    HUNTER    Jane    19    Aug    1767    Stapleton (broom), Bewcastle (bride)    banns        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    James    ROUTLEDGE    Mary,    18    Aug    1778    Stapleton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    groom - widower, license, witnesses: William and Jannet Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    James,    STORY,    Jane    10    Nov    1780         bop, banns, bachelor, single, witnesses: Elizabeth Routledge and Christopher Nicholson        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Robert    Armstrong    Jane    16    Jun    1745        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John,    ROUTLEDGE    Jane,    9    Dec    1802        bop, bach, single, license, witnesses: Richard Routledge and Arthur Harding        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Jo.    ARMSTRONG    Mary    17    Nov    1703                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    MICHOLSON    Elliner    6    Feb    1669                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    ARMSTRONG    Catherine    22    Nov    1691    Bewcastle (groom)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    WAUGH    Margaret    13    Feb    1711                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    SCOTT    Margt.    21 or 24    Aug    1748        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    ROUTLEDGE    Sybil    15    Jul    1752        both of Lanercost        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    ATKINSON    Mary    11    Jul    1756        bop, banns, wit: Thoms Foster and Jno Story        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    GRAHAM,    Mary    1    Aug    1768        bop, banns        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John    Little    Frances    22    Jul    1773    bop            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John,    SCOT,    Isabel    12    Dec    1770        bop, license, bachelor and spinster        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John,    SMITH,    Ann    22    Dec    1784        bop, bachelor, license, witnesses: John Nixon and William Renwick        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John,    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    25    Aug    1785    Brampton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bach, minor (with consent of parents), license, witnesses: John Atkinson and Leond Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John,    NIXON,    Isabella    8    Aug    1787        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: Anthony Nixon and James Hetherington        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    John,    HARRISON,    Margret    28    Apr    1794        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: William Richards and John Nixon        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Leonard    DODGSON    Elinor    24    Aug    1711                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Leonard    ROUTLEDGE    Margt.    25    Jun    1766        bop, banns        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Leonard,    ROUTLEDGE    Jane,    17    Dec    1770        bop, license, bachelor and spinster        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Robert,    ROUTLEDGE    Margret,    12    Nov    1805        bop, bach, wid, license, witnesses: John Elliot and Elizabeth Williamson        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Rich.    STORY    Jane    12    Jul    1709                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Richard,    NIXON,    Ann    25    Dec    1771        bop, banns, bachelor and spinster        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Richard,    ARMSTNG,    Eliz.    7    Sep    1780        bop, bachelor, banns, witnesses: John Routledge and Thomas Allen        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Robert    NIXON    Anne    14    Nov    1727        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Robert,    ARMSTRONG,    Jane    13    May    1805        bop, bach, single, license, witnesses: John and James Hunter        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Robt.    FOSTER    Grizell    21    Jul    1692                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    28    Nov    1677    Camolflatt (groom)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    MOPHETT    Jane    11    Jul    1702                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    DONEY    Anne    10    Jun    1711                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    ARMSTRONG    Grizell    31    Jul    1712                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    ALLON    Eliz.    11    Jun    1713                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Tho.    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    18    Nov    1733    Hill (groom), Kirkbeckstown (bride)    bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas    NIXON    Isabell    19    Nov    1667                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas    NIXON    Dorothye        May    1669                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas    Noble    Anne    14    Jun    1712                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas    STORYE    Elizabeth    5    Feb    1733    Oakshaw (groom), Lanercost (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Eliz    27    Aug    1753        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas,    ROUTLEDGE    Eliz.    23    Jun    1785        bop, bachelor, single, license, witnesses: George Routledge and Leonard Potts        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas,    BATTY,    Hanny    22    Jan    1794        bop, widr, single, banns, witnesses: John Nixon and William Ritchardson        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas,    LUNG,    Elizabeth    1    Oct    1798        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: Gideon Miller and Thomas Messenger        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thomas,    NIXON,    Elizabeth    26    Oct    1812        bop, bach, single, license, witnesses: Thomas Nixon and Elizabeth Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thos.    NOBLE    Anne    14    Jun    1713                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Thos.    ALLAN    Ann    23    Nov    1746    Bewcastle (groom), Lanercost (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Will.    STORY    Isabel    22    Jul    1676                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    William    Nixon    Margarett    26    Feb    1666                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    William    ELLIOT    Mary    7    Jun    1745    Bewcastle (groom), Lanercost (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    William    ROUTLEDGE    Jane    15    Nov    1753        bop, license        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    William,    CROZIER,    Isabella    3    Oct    1788        bop, widr, single, license, witnesses: John Kennedy and Isabella Elliot        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    William,    ARMSTRONG,    Mary    1    Mar    1803    Bewcastle (groom), Irthington (bride)    bach, single, witnesses: John Phillipson and Richard Nixon        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Willm.    ROUTLEDGE    Grissell            1704                Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Willm.    EDGAR    Blanch    17    Jun    1726        otp (groom), St Mary's Carlisle (bride)        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Willm.    FOSTER    Elizabeth    5    Jun    1757        bop, license        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Willm.,    HENDERSON    Margaret    3    May    1766        bop, banns, groom widr.         Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Wm.    ATHOL    Esther    17    Jan    1733        bop.        Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Wm.    TALEFORD,    Nancy    8    Aug    1764        banns         Bewcastle                                                                   
ROUTLEDGE    Wm.,    HARDING,    Jane    17    Jun    1772    Stapleton (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    banns, bachelor and spinster        Bewcastle                                                                   
SANDERSON    Patricke    ROUTLEDGE    Margarett    15    Nov    1666                Bewcastle                                                                   
SCOTT    John    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    10    Oct    1705                Bewcastle                                                                   
SHORTRIDGE,    Robert    ROUTLEDGE    Jane,    4    Dec    1807        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: Isaac Dodgson and John Nixon        Bewcastle                                                                   
SMITH,    James    ROUTLEDGE    Mary,    5    Feb    1792        bop, bach, minor (with consent of parents), license, witnesses: William Routledge and Nancy Lung)        Bewcastle                                                                   
STEEL,    Richard    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    16    Sep    1769                Bewcastle                                                                   
STORY    Leonard    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    12    Jun    1712                Bewcastle                                                                   
STORY    Adam    ROUTLEDGE    Isabell    13    Oct    1677                Bewcastle                                                                   
STORY    (illegible)    ROUTLEDGE    Jennet            1686                Bewcastle                                                                   
SUMERS    Adam    ROUTLEDGE    Mary    20    Oct    1748        bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
TALFOR,    George    ROUTLEDGE    Jane,    12    Jun    1786        bop, bach, single, license, Witnesses: Robert Little and Mary Robson        Bewcastle                                                                   
TALFOR,    Nathan    ROUTLEDGE    Margret,    5    Jul    1787        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: Thomas Routledge and William Talfor        Bewcastle                                                                   
TALFORTH,    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Anne,    16    Dec    1776        bop, banns, bachelor and spinster, witnesses: John Routledge and John Routledge        Bewcastle                                                                   
TAYLOUR    Wm.    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    25    Nov    1693                Bewcastle                                                                   
TURNER    Matthew    ROUTLEDGE    Jannet    2    Aug    1733    Sandcrook (groom), Highonset (bride)            Bewcastle                                                                   
TWEEDLE    John    ROUTLEDGE    Sybella    25    Nov    1742    Arthuret (groom), Bewcastle (bride)    bop        Bewcastle                                                                   
WAUGH    John    ROUTLEDGE    Anne    29    Jul    1730    Lanercost (groom)            Bewcastle                                                                   
WILLIAMSON,    Thomas    ROUTLEDGE    Elizabeth,    16    Jan    1791        bop, bach, single, banns, witnesses: Robert and Mary Dodgson        Bewcastle                                                                   
WILSON    John    Routledge    Grace    22    Nov    1790    bop (BAnns); Witnesses: William Little, Alexander Wilson            Bewcastle                                                                   

The bolded marriage (Thomas Routledge and Mary Routledge) is for the parents of my Grace Routledge I believe. A search of the baptisms at Bewcastle does give a baptism for a John son of Thomas and Mary Routledge 27 Jun 1735 at Kirkbeckstown. 1 Dec 1738 a Thomas Routledge was buried at Bewcastle and he was of Kirkbeckstown. The question is am I right that Grace is the daughter of Thomas Routledge and Mary Routledge or is she the daughter of John Routledge and Mary Forster?