Monday, August 1, 2016

Ancestry Ethnicity Estimate

With three of us tested at Ancestry I thought I would publish the Ethnicity Estimates which we received. Reading posts from others I had read that a lot of people who were testing in England were finding that individuals in North America were being given higher estimates of Great Britain Ethnicity than people who actually lived in Great Britain. Mind you our toehold here is small with just my mother, her father and his mother being born in Canada. Just going back to 2x great grandparents we have documentation for all eight couples with one set being from Devon and Somerset, a second set with both from Hampshire, a third set with both from Dorset, a fourth set from Cumberland and Yorkshire, a fifth set with one from Wiltshire and one from Hampshire, a sixth set with both from Warwickshire, a seventh set with Hampshire and Wiltshire and the eighth set both from Birmingham, Warwickshire (with one having London/Surrey roots and the other having Staffordshire/Leicestershire roots). We are coming from six distinctly different areas of England.

In my case I had received a high percentage of Great Britain ethnicity when I tested 3 years ago; these two results have just been received:

                                             Myself                            one Brother                       second Brother
Great Britain                             64                                      1                                          27
Ireland                                       14                                    17                                          19
Europe West                              11                                    76                                          21
Scandinavia                                 6                                      5                                          26
Iberian Peninsula                         1                                      1                                            5
Europe East                                  1
Finland/Northwest Russia            2
Italy/Greece                                  1                                                                                    1

I am actually the most different in my family so this difference may not be surprising.

I do like the analysis at Ancestry and their results fitted nicely into mine although I have far more 4th to 6th cousin matches then they do but they both fitted nicely into our one and only DNA Circle of the Pincombe family. We are the linch pin that brings the others into the group because we match both of them. Our mother was a Pincombe.

But having tested at five of the major companies FT DNA, 23 and Me, AncestryDNA, BritainsDNA and National Genographic, I can see a lot of value in all of them. It just depends on what you are looking for and how valuable you consider DNA testing to be.

Blake Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 3

Just noticed that I forgot to write up my blog for the Blake Newsletter although it was published on the FT DNA website for the members of the Blake study there. 
            Blake Newsletter
Table of Contents
1.   Gedmatch
2.   Continuing to write up the family story
3.   Family Finder Summary
4.   Blake Emails
1.   Gedmatch
Gedmatch is an online tool that can be used to match up your autosomal results (FT DNA’s Family Finder, AncestryDNA results, 23 and Me DNA results, and others) with other testors from these companies. Geoff Rasmussen of will be having a webinar on transferring your autosomal results from AncestryDNA to Gedmatch but this is equally applicable to the other testing companies ( . Gedmatch is found on the web at: . This is the login webpage for Gedmatch and if not registered then you can do so for free. Login includes your email address and a password which you would select at registration. You can upload as many accounts as you wish thus permitting comparisons between family members who have tested at different companies. There are advanced tools but for the most part the tools provided are quite adequate for comparison. I do use the advanced tools and have found them very handy. 

2.   Continuing to write up the family story
The editor continues to write up her family story. Progressing backwards in time has revealed a number of details that had been acquired but set aside and forgotten over the last nearly thirteen years of collecting information. I have carefully footnoted the stories of my families but decided I needed to do the same for my own story which has taken me most of the month of June. I still have several siblings of my maternal grandmother to complete and then will move back to my 2x great grandparents and all of the siblings of my great grandparents. It has been a walk down memory lane as my grandparents talked a great deal about their families when I was a child (my paternal grandfather lived with us and my maternal grandmother lived about 2 kilometres away). I will then be writing about ancestors for whom less is known in terms of family lore but for whom there are a lot of records. I trade off personal knowledge with written information. 

3.   Family Finder Summary / yDNA results
I had the opportunity to speak with an individual from FT DNA about how to display Family Finder results and he agreed that such a display would necessarily expose personal information. That would go against the policy of FT DNA with regard to usage of data on their site. There are now results for 123 individuals in our Blake Group Project. YDNA12 results for 76 individuals: 59 have completed YDNA25, 57 have completed YDNA37, 29 have completed YDNA67 and 7 have completed YDNA111. The researcher who first separated the Blake lines chose to follow the suggested ancestor route and this has proven to be appropriate for some of the lines but for others they are included in groups where they do not match other members within thousands of years. I am considering how best to separate some of these groups without making the project difficult to read. 

4.   Blake Emails received
I am behind answering requests for information on Blake. By late September I hope to have answered all emails. Thank you for your patience. 

Elizabeth Kipp,
Member #4600: Guild of one name studies -

Thursday, June 2, 2016

Still writing

When I started my project the 12th of December 2015, I did not imagine that I would still be writing so enthusiastically by the beginning of June. I have almost completed my great grandparents and all their children (just working on my set of great grandparent's children). The Buller family has been a source of wonder for me. I spent hours and hours with my Grandmother Pincombe (nee Buller) and thinking back I did ask all the questions that one does usually ask a grandparents but she was expert at eluding my questions. I did learn somethings but mostly it was a huge brickwall that even now 13 years after I started doing my family tree I have not progressed (other than with the family lore that I did acquire from her) back before her mother with documented evidence. With her father I have been able to move back another two generations but there as well I am brickwalled. So now I am working on the children of my grandmother's siblings and there to I have many brickwalls because we have not kept in touch with those descendants. The two others who had children married in the United States and lived the rest of their lives there. My mother visited her aunts through the years and I have her stories to remind me but still there is a gap as I do not know my second cousins beyond their names.

As I was writing away I started to look at my own 900 page story and decided that I needed to footnote that and so I am busy working away on that footnoting for a few days which may turn into weeks as I had not yet worked my mother's letters into my story and she had kept my letters as well and so they too can be worked into my story. It is amazing being able to do that. Certainly at the time that I kept the letters I did not think of writing my story but then the years passed and amazingly I actually have grandchildren and so I wanted to put all of this information that I had collected into some sort of readable context. It has worked well and I am pleased with the result. It will be something for my daughters to read in their old age and perhaps my descendants if they so desire. But mostly it brings together the thousands and thousands of pictures that we have taken through the years.

I am persuading my husband to consider writing his life story and perhaps we will be able to work at that next winter. Time will tell.

My aim is to complete the three times great grandparents by fall and I did do the four times great grandparents as a 52 Ancestor Challenge in 2014 which will be very helpful when I write them up. Now writing this I realize that that may be the extent of my completion of writing up by the end of one year of writing. There is still so much left as I have managed to get back to 5x and 6x great grandparents in many lines and back as far as 14x great grandparents in my parent's surname line.

My 14x great grandparents on my Blake line were Robert Blake married to Maude Snell. Both of them left wills although Maude's will has gone missing apparently at the Winchester Archives in Hampshire england.

My 12x great grandparents on my Pincombe line are unnamed but their son Thomas Pencombe married Johane (unknown) and both left wills. Johane's will was probated at the PCC but Thomas' will was lost in the bombing of the Record Office at Exeter during WWII.

My project is likely going to taken another year beyond this year but I will be getting back into my one name studies as time passes. Already I am thinking about which set of wills to transcribe next.

Wednesday, June 1, 2016

Pincombe-Pinkham Newsletter, Volume 1, Issue 3, 2016

                                                           Pincombe-Pinkham Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 3

Table of Contents
1.   Pincombe Charts, original One-Name Study at the Guild of One-Name Studies
2.   Will of Willyam Pincombe, East Buckland, 20 Dec 1602
3.   yDNA study

1.   Pincombe Charts
When the present researcher for the Pincombe/Pinkham Family at the Guild of one-name studies decided to take on her mother’s surname, another team of researchers had just given up the study of the Pincombe/Pinkham surname. Galen Pinkham of the United States of America and Dr. Richard Pinkham of Gloucestershire, England had over a period of fifty years acquired a great deal of information on various Pincombe and Pinkham family lines both in England and in the United States of America. In order to preserve their study they produced several items which were then lodged with the Society of Genealogists. One of these items was a series of family trees on Bristol board sized sheets; a second item was a computer printout (hundreds of pages) of all their accumulated computerized data and a third item was transcriptions of Pincombe wills held at the Exeter Record Office in Devon, England. The last item was particularly lucky as these records were later destroyed in the WWII bombing of the Exeter Record Office. Over the next couple of years I will insert one of these charts into each newsletter. Although I am not always in agreement with the charts, they do accumulate a lot of information on the family in particular locations. The first chart I will enter will be the one that includes my own Pincombe line. It has been attached to the wrong couple but a few lines can correct that. One purpose in reproducing these charts is the hope that descendants of some of the other lines will also recognize any errors or omissions and thus make the task of creating new charts much easier.