Saturday, August 8, 2015

Interesting query on the Blake family at South Newton

I received a query on the Blake family at South Newton. I find this Blake line to be particularly interesting for my own line.  South Newton, Wiltshire lies 19 miles WSW of Andover, Hampshire  and 13 miles West of Over Wallop, Hampshire.

There is a Blake family at Over Wallop, Hampshire  (this information received from another researcher partially):

William Blake and Ann baptized children at Over Wallop. Could this be the William Blake who married Ann Whitaker 5 Dec 1751 at Saint James Trowbridge? Over Wallop though is 30 miles from Trowbridge. However they did not baptize a child at Over Wallop until Jul 1754. The following adds to the information sent to me but doesn't answer the query but since I have looked it up I decided to blog it so that I do not lose it!

James baptized 7 Jul 1754
Thomas baptized 9 Apr 1756; buried 27 Sep 1757
Thomas baptized 23 Jul 1758
Elizabeth baptized 9 Mar 1760; married John Lansley 8 May 1780 at Over Wallop
Richard baptized 21 Mar 1762
Mary baptized 8 Mar 1767; buried 16 Dec 1769

James married Mary Browning 28 Jul 1776 at Over Wallop, Hampshire and baptized children at Over Wallop:

James baptized 7 Sep 1777; married Esther Hayter 12 Dec 1818 at Over Wallop
John baptized 27 Jan 1782
William baptized 23 Nov 1783

Richard married Phoebe Northover 13 Nov 1793 at Broad Chalke, Wiltshire (7 miles from South Newton) and baptized some of their children at Over Wallop [ ] items from researcher:

[Ann baptized 10 May 1794 St Thomas, Salisbury (8 miles from Broad Chalke) ]
[John baptized 25 Dec 1795 at Ebbesbourne Wake (3 miles from Broad Chalke)]
[William baptized 21 Sep 1800 Ebbesbourne Wake] (was he buried at Over Wallop 3 Feb 1803?)
Charles baptized 10 Apr 1803
Sarah baptized 27 Dec 1805
Letitia baptized 18 Sep 1808; buried 25 Jun 1826 at Over Wallop
Thomas baptized 27 Jan 1811; buried 19 May 1811 at Over Wallop
Harriet baptized 3 May 1812[; buried Dec quarter 1843 Stockbridge RD]
Thomas baptized 19 Mar 1815
[James baptized 12 Oct 1817]

William and Elizabeth Blake baptized children at Over Wallop:

Ann baptized 20 Dec 1806
Elizabeth baptized 7 Feb 1802
George baptized 8 Jul 1804
Frances baptized 2 Apr 1809; married James Amor 10 Mar 1831 at Over Wallop
John baptized 23 Jun 1811
Hannah baptized 22 Aug 1813

 A Charles Blake was buried at Over Wallop 6 May 1742. Jone Blake was buried 2 Aug 1723 and Mary Blake was buried 3 May 1725 also at Over Wallop.

Another four earlier burials at Over Wallop: Anne Blake was buried 4 Oct 1696 daughter of Charles and Ruth; Charles Blake was buried 19 Aug 1684 son of Charles; Charles Blake was buried 11 Dec 1702 son of Charles and Ruth, and Joseph Blake was buried 22 Apr 1703 son of Charles and Ruth.

These burials are the earliest records that I found online for the Blake family at Over Wallop on Find My Past. If you go to British History Online for Over Wallop there is no mention of the Blake family in the early records as having been at Over Wallop. This manor was owned by the Ludlow family who also owned a manor in Overton Hundred at Tadley. Has this Blake family come from that manor? Or have they come from other areas around Over Wallop?

Moving on to South Newton which is the location of the query and the marriage that I am looking at is that of John Blake and Elizabeth Blake 24 Dec 1778 at South Newton (Find My Past has this marriage John Blake and Elisabeth Blake 24 Dec 1778 at South Newton and no other details).

There are a few baptisms for John Blake at South Newton

John baptized 29 Sep 1743 son of Thomas and Elizabeth Blake
John Blake baptized 5 Oct 1748 son of Thomas and Betty Blake
John Blake baptized 29 Oct 1752 son of Mary Blake
John Blake baptized 11 Jun 1753 son of John and Ann Blake
John Blake baptized 27 Nov 1756 son of William and Jane Blake

There was a John Blake buried 14 May 1755 at South Newton (no age given).

Baptisms for Elizabeth Blake at South Newton

Betty Blake baptized 15 Sep 1755 daughter of John and Ann; likely buried 23 Nov 1755 at South Newton

Betty Blake baptized 14 Dec 1758 daughter of Peter and Elizabeth
Betty Blake baptized 12 Apr 1760 daughter of Alexander and Sarah

Three Elizabeth Blakes were buried at South Newton, one in 1760, one in 1762 and one in 1764 and no age given (others in the 1770s and this is a very common forename in the Blake family).

What can I look at with this query? I did transcribe wills for the Blake families at South Newton but they were much earlier than this time frame.

Charles Blake, Upholsterer probated 8 Apr 1684 and he mentions  his father Charles Blake living at Chilhampton in the parish of South Newton and his brother Richard of New Sarum. He does not name the location for his other brother Christopher Blake nor for his sisters Mary Chalke and Anne Chase or Martha Tenne. He has a cousin Charles Gilbert.

A will for Charles Blake of Chilhampton probated 24 Oct 1649 and his children Agnes (baptized 7 Nov 1624 at South Newton), Joane (baptized 8 Apr 1626 at South Newton), Anne (baptized 1 May 1629; buried 2 Jul 1629 at South Newton), Charles (baptized 2 Oct 1631) and Edith (baptized 2 Jul 1634 (mother was Joane)).

A will for John Blake yeoman of Stovered South Newton and probated 20 May 1637 naming his sons Thomas (has seven children), Robert (two children) and daughter Joane Biggs.

A will for William Blake of Chilhampton, South Newton probated 1 Jun 1610 and he names his sons John and Charles and his daughters Edith, Dorathie, Anconett, Agnis and Margaret.

This appears to give a line coming down from William (will probated 1 Jun 1610), Charles his son (will probated 24 Oct 1649), Charles baptized 1631, Charles his son (will probated 8 Apr 1684) and his right heirs his brothers Richard and Christopher.

Maud Blake of Stoverd left a will probated 28 Oct 1616 and she names Robert Blake with sons Thomas and John, William Blake with son Henry, Henry Blake with sons William and Henry. She was married to a William Blake.

John Blake of Stooloford left a will probated 1545/46 with wife Edyth and sons Thomas and John. Thomas has a son Robert and the testator mentions a Robert Blake carpenter at South Newton.

The will of John Blake husbandman of South Newton probated 6 Feb 1553/1554 mentions his sons Walter, Gylys, William, Edward and Robert.

The will of John Blake of Stoweford probated 20 Mary 1572 names his sons John, William and Thomas with John having sons William and Thomas. Thomas's children are unnamed.

There are simply too many  with the same forename to determine the William who married Maud and with two wills for John Blake in the same time period (how were they related? or were they?). Another one of those problems that can really only be solved with yDNA studies of the Blake families descendant of the South Newton Blake families.

The enquirer is looking for a John Blake born circa 1740s-1750s. These wills bring me forward only into the mid 1600s.

 Baptisms at South Newton from the IGI (separated into family lines with father named at top of group):

Charles Blake
Agnes Blake daughter  of Charles Blake 7 Nov 1624
Joane Blake daughter of Charles Blake 8 Apr 1626
Anne Blake daughter of Charles Blake 1 May 1629 buried 2 Jul 1629
Charles Blake son of Charles Blake 2 Oct 1631
Edith Blake daughter of Charles Blake and Joane 2 Jul 1634  

Francis Blake
Thomas Blake son of Francis Blake   27 May 1627  

George Blake
George Blake son of George Blake and Frances 5 Oct 1634
John Blake son of George Blake and Frances 2 Apr 1637 buried 15 Apr 1637

Henry Blake
Thomas Blake son of Henry Blake   27 Nov 1608  
Alice Blake daughter of Henry Blake   8 Sep 1620  
Frances Blake daughter of Henry Blake   23 Apr 1626 buried 14 Nov 1627
Philip Blake son of Henry Blake   7 Sep 1628  
Elleanor Blake daughter of Henry Blake   8 Jan 1631  
Sarah Blake daughter of Henry Blake and Elleanor 26 Jul 1635  

John Blake
Joseph Blake son of John Blake   1 Jun 1625  
Elizabeth Blake daughter of John Blake   9 Sep 1627  
Robert Blake son of John Blake   18 Nov 1629  
Anne Blake daughter of John Blake   1 Feb 1631  
Elizabeth Blake daughter of John Blake   21 Jun 1632  
John Blake son of John Blake   3 Dec 1633  
Joane Blake daughter of John Blake   1 Mar 1633
Elizabeth Blake daughter of John Blake and Elleanor 27 Sep 1635  
Alexander Blake son of John Blake and Elleanor 7 Oct 1637  

Robert Blake
Joane Blake daughter of Robert Blake   1 Apr 1633  
Joane Blake daughter of Robert Blake and Alice 7 Apr 1634  
Elizabeth Blake daughter of Robert Blake and Alice 2 Apr 1637  

Thomas Blake (two sets)
Thomas Blake son of Thomas Blake   11 Jun 1626  
Thomas Blake son of Thomas Blake   18 May 1628  
William Blake son of Thomas Blake   15 Jun 1628  
Elizabeth Blake daughter of Thomas Blake   14 Nov 1632  
Joseph Blake son of Thomas Blake   30 Mar 1632  
Elizabeth Blake daughter of Thomas Blake   30 Oct 1631  
Richard Blake son of Thomas Blake   8 Apr 1632  
Dorothy Blake daughter of Thomas Blake and Frances 10 Jan 1635 buried 19 Jan 1635
Mary Blake daughter of Thomas Blake and Frances 23 Apr 1634  
Eleanor Blake daughter of Thomas Blake and Frances 20 Jul 1634  
Thomas Blake son of Thomas Blake and Jane 15 Mar 1634  

Marriages
Marion Blake married Thomas Lane 25 Apr 1608
Henry Blake married Alice Walles 28 Nov 1608
Henry Blake married Ellen Homans 20 Sep 1624
Anes Blake married Simon Pike 14 May 1626
Mary Blake married Roger Kingman 29 Oct 1632
Edward Blake married Sarah Webbe 26 Nov 1632
thomas Blake married Jane Mackerill 27 Dec 1632
Johne Blake married Elleanor Beckett 26 May 1633
Joane Blake married Alexander Percye 17 Feb 1633

Searching my blog and using : 

http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/search/label/South%20Newton

will bring up all of the wills.



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