Collecting records of the Bertrand family (ancestors of Antoinette Bertrand married to Marius Mourier 1877 at Hull) and transcribing them for the Research day on the Bertrand Family.
M de Antoine Bertran et de Josephte Cholette
Le onze janvier mil huit cent deux nous pretre
soussigné après la publication de trois bans de mariage
entre antoine bertran fils majeur de Louis bertran
et de marie josephte boyer Ses pere et mere cultivateurs
en cette paroisse et consentante au mariage d'une part
et Josephte Cholette fille mineure d'hicanthe cholette
et de marie magdelene roy ses pere et mere cultivateurs
en cette paroisse et consentants aussi au dit mariage et
ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement au ses dit
mariage Leur avons donné La bénédiction nuptiale
après avoir reçu leur consentement mutuel en
présence de Louis bertran pere de l'époux de pierre
bertran frere, de Laurent et vital bertran oncles
paternels de pierre et alexis boyer oncles mater
nels de françois vital bertran cousin germain
de louis joseph bogne ami, d'hicanthe cholet
pere de l'épouse de joseph chevrier oncle (pere)
paternel de françois roy oncle maternel de
françois cholette frere, de vincent Labie beau frere
d'hacinthe et denys et ignace gauthier cousins
de jean baptiste cam__nault ____ ami desquels
témoins hiacinthe cholette et laurent et vital
bertran louis joseph borgné ont signé et les
autres ont declaré ne le savoir _____après
Lecture faite. un mot interligne bon
vital bertrand [signed]
hicanthe cholette [signed]
Laurent Bertrand [signed]
L J Borgne [signed]
Between the third and fourth lines was a notation "feu Charlotte [B or R]endroyrd. Having so many family members mentioned really helps to place this bride and groom into the correct family lines. The parents of Antoine Bertrand being identified as Louis Bertrand and Marie Josephte Boyer. I will transcribe their marriage the next research day.
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Saturday, June 4, 2011
Sunday, May 1, 2011
Ne[p]veu family
Marie Louise Eugenie Neveu married Joseph Louis Gabriel Marius Mourier 10 May 1909 at Ste Anne in Ottawa. According to the marriage registration
Le dix mai mil neuf cent neuf ne la displace
de deux bans de mariage et la publication
d'un troisième ban faité au prone de cette
paroisse par le Rev. J. A. Myrand curie de cette
paroisse, au prone paroissial, entre Gabriel
Mourier domicilié dans la paroise Notre Dame
d'Ottawa, fils majeur de Marius Mourier et
d'Antoinette Bertrand d'une part et de Eugénie
Neveu, fille majeure de J. B. Neveu et de Léa
Lapointé de cette paroisse d'autre part ne
s'étant découvert aucun autre empechement de
mariage, nous pretre soussigné avons reçu
leur mutuel consentement de mariage
et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale
en présence de J B Neveu and de Marius
Mourier
M[a]d[am]e Eugenie Mourier
Monsieur Gabriel Mourier
JB Neveu
M. Mourier
Albert Neveu
H.A. Patrice
L. Mourier
Mad[am] L. Mourier
Marie Louise Mourier
A. Mourier
H. Patrice
A. __nville
T. J. LeBlanc
B. Rocque
V. Legeault
B. Desjardins
L. Neveu
A.E. Richard Pr[et]é
I found all the family signatures to be an absolute gem to store away in the family tree. This establishes the parents of Eugenie Neveu as the daughter of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe. The 1911 Census gives us April 1861 as the month and year for his birth and he was 50 years old. Locating the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe proved to be a difficult task.
Nosorigines is not helpful with the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu. Checking ancestry online trees I do not find any help with Jean Baptiste but Philomène Neveu has several trees with a brother Jean Baptiste and Alexandre. Alexandre is clearly at Pointe Gatineau and Adelaide (mother of Alexandre and Philomène) is on the census in 1901 living with Philomène. I am not happy with my decision to place Jean Baptiste in the Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché family of a year ago. I think that I need more information to make this attachment. On the 1891 census Jean Baptiste Neveu (married to Léa Lapointe) is a Grocer a general. It would be good to find Adelaide on this census. On the 1911 census she appears to be living on her own.
I read the 1891 census for Pointe Gatineau and found John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu with their two youngest children living about four units away from Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe and their family. Alexandre and his family were living about 10 units away from John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu. Can one conclude from such information (and they are the only Neveu families at Pointe Gatineau) that Jean Baptiste is a son of Jean Baptiste and Adelaide? It would be so nice to find the marriage. It does seem odd that Jean Baptiste and Léa would marry in 1882 with their first living child in 1885. The burial of the one child in 1882 would tend to make one think they married in 1881 or early 1882. We do know that Jean Baptiste is still living with his parents on the 1881 census in June. Looking for a marriage in the latter part of 1881 might be a good idea and I will do that on my next research day. I will not begin my generation folders for the Neveu family until I am thoroughly convinced that Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché are indeed the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu married to Léa Lapointe.
Le dix mai mil neuf cent neuf ne la displace
de deux bans de mariage et la publication
d'un troisième ban faité au prone de cette
paroisse par le Rev. J. A. Myrand curie de cette
paroisse, au prone paroissial, entre Gabriel
Mourier domicilié dans la paroise Notre Dame
d'Ottawa, fils majeur de Marius Mourier et
d'Antoinette Bertrand d'une part et de Eugénie
Neveu, fille majeure de J. B. Neveu et de Léa
Lapointé de cette paroisse d'autre part ne
s'étant découvert aucun autre empechement de
Publish Post
mariage, nous pretre soussigné avons reçu
leur mutuel consentement de mariage
et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale
en présence de J B Neveu and de Marius
Mourier
M[a]d[am]e Eugenie Mourier
Monsieur Gabriel Mourier
JB Neveu
M. Mourier
Albert Neveu
H.A. Patrice
L. Mourier
Mad[am] L. Mourier
Marie Louise Mourier
A. Mourier
H. Patrice
A. __nville
T. J. LeBlanc
B. Rocque
V. Legeault
B. Desjardins
L. Neveu
A.E. Richard Pr[et]é
I found all the family signatures to be an absolute gem to store away in the family tree. This establishes the parents of Eugenie Neveu as the daughter of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe. The 1911 Census gives us April 1861 as the month and year for his birth and he was 50 years old. Locating the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe proved to be a difficult task.
Nosorigines is not helpful with the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu. Checking ancestry online trees I do not find any help with Jean Baptiste but Philomène Neveu has several trees with a brother Jean Baptiste and Alexandre. Alexandre is clearly at Pointe Gatineau and Adelaide (mother of Alexandre and Philomène) is on the census in 1901 living with Philomène. I am not happy with my decision to place Jean Baptiste in the Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché family of a year ago. I think that I need more information to make this attachment. On the 1891 census Jean Baptiste Neveu (married to Léa Lapointe) is a Grocer a general. It would be good to find Adelaide on this census. On the 1911 census she appears to be living on her own.
I read the 1891 census for Pointe Gatineau and found John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu with their two youngest children living about four units away from Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe and their family. Alexandre and his family were living about 10 units away from John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu. Can one conclude from such information (and they are the only Neveu families at Pointe Gatineau) that Jean Baptiste is a son of Jean Baptiste and Adelaide? It would be so nice to find the marriage. It does seem odd that Jean Baptiste and Léa would marry in 1882 with their first living child in 1885. The burial of the one child in 1882 would tend to make one think they married in 1881 or early 1882. We do know that Jean Baptiste is still living with his parents on the 1881 census in June. Looking for a marriage in the latter part of 1881 might be a good idea and I will do that on my next research day. I will not begin my generation folders for the Neveu family until I am thoroughly convinced that Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché are indeed the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu married to Léa Lapointe.
Thursday, April 28, 2011
Bertrand Family
The Bertrand family of French Canadian descent is very well published. Initially I was unable to attach Antoinette to her correct Bertrand family line. I still have not found the marriage registration for Antoinette Bertrand and Marius Mourier in 1877 at Hull Québec. Today, I shall again search out the death registration on Ancestry to see if I am able to locate one for Antoinette Bertrand now that 1936 is available.The death registration for Marius Mourier gives the name of his father as Jean Calixte Mourier. Her father is listed as Julien Bertrand and her mother as Antoinette Séguin. Since I am unable to find the marriage registration thus far, finding her parents on the death registration is the next best thing (and she is identified correctly as the widow of Marius Mourier). The informant was her younger daughter Marie Louise Proulx.
This verification is excellent as the published source that I found listed her parents as Julien Vital Bertrand and Antoinette Séguin.
Again I will place the Bertrand family into folders and thus far I only have the last two generations with the pertinent documents. One project for this family will be to pull all the documents available back to the emigrant ancestor. In this case, the emigrant ancestor was Jean Bertrand who married Marie Charlotte Brard 23 Sep 1697 at Notre-Dame, Montréal. Looking at Tanguay, (although I have found a few errors in Tanguay I still consider this to be the best reference tool in terms of looking at an entire family of an emigrant) there are a number of Jean Bertrand marriages and according to the published records bringing us down to Julien Vital Bertrand we would select their son Jacques who married Marie Louise Dumouchel 19 Sep 1729 at Notre Dame, Montréal. Their son Michel Louis married Marie Josephte Boyer dit St-Germain 10 Aug 1778 at Saint Michel, Vaudreuil. Their son Antoine married Marie Josephte Cholet 11 Jan 1802 at Saint Michel, Vaudreuil. Julien Vital was a son of this couple. Tanguay only takes us to Michel Louis being identified as the son of Jacques Bertrand married to Marie Louise Dumouchel. but it is a good starting point. I need to then locate the marriage of Julien Vital Bertrand and Anoinette Séguin which I did by writing to a rootsweb site which promised lookups of the Registers at St Jean Baptiste, L'Orignal, Prescott, Ontario. This is also on the nosorigines website. I also found on WorldConnect
Married: 07 FEB 1842 in Paroisse Saint-Jean-Baptiste, L'Orignal, Comté de Prescott, Ontario, Canada 3
* Note:
Original :
M.5 Julien Vital Bertrand & Antoinette Seguin
On the seventh of February eighteen hundred and forty two, after two publications of banns at our parochial mase of L'Orignal, I the undersigned priest have joined & maried Julien Vital Bertrand son of age of Antoine Bertrand and of the late Joseph Cholette and to Antoinette Séguin daughter of Hiacinthe Seguin and of Monique Villeneuve of Hawkesbury in presence of Pierre Chabot & Marc Rochon
Signature :
P. Lefaivre Ptre
Translation :
M.5 Julien Vital Bertrand & Antoinette Seguin
Le sept Février mil huit cent quarante et deux, après la publication de deux bans aux messes paroissiales de L'Orignal. Je prêtre soussigné ai joint et marié Julien Vital Bertrand fils majeur d'Antoine Bertrand et de feue Joseph Cholette et a Antoinette Séguin fille de Hiacinthe Seguin et de Monique Villeneuve de Hawkesbury en présence de Pierre Chabot & Marc Rochon
Signature :
P. Lefaivre Ptre
Short of seeing the original register all of these items, the transcription is certainly very convincing.
The parents of Julien Vital Bertrand are named as Antoine Bertrand and Marie Josephte Cholet. It would appear that Julien Vital Bertrand has moved on from Vaudreuil where he was born and from Rigaud where his mother was buried in 1836 to L'Original. . This is a distance of approximately 20 kilometres.
From Wikipedia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Orignal,_Ontario):
L'Orignal is a village and former municipality, now part of Champlain Township in eastern Ontario, Canada. It likely took its name from its location on the Ottawa River once known as Pointe à l'Orignal (French for "Moose Point"), where moose crossed the river.
The marriage of Antoine Bertrand and Marie Josephte Cholet was celebrated 11 Jan 1802 at St Michel, Vaudreuil. I did find the scan of their marriage on ancestry and downloaded a copy to my files. However, Tanguay does not have this marriage so I must work my way back another generation to Michel Louis Bertrand and Marie Josephte Boyer dit St Germain who married 10 Aug 1778 at St Michel, Vaudreuil according to the published information on this family. Both Louis Michel and Marie Josephte appear to be widowed at the time of their marriage. One notes from given baptismal records that Louis Michel would have been 41 years of age and Marie Josephte 37 years of age. In order to find the parents of Luis Michel I need to find his first marriage. His first wife was Marie Charlotte Bertrand and they married 10 June 1763 at LaPrairie. Louis Michel parents were recorded as Jacques Bertrand and Marie Louise Dumouchelle. Tanguay records their marriage as 19 Sep 1729 at Montréal which I shall verify on my next study day for the Bertrand family. So Jean is the first generation, Jacques is the second generation, Louis Michel is the third generation, Antoine is the fourth generation, Julien Vital is the fifth generation and Antoinette is the sixth generation. I can now separate the files into folders with the Bertrand folder.
This verification is excellent as the published source that I found listed her parents as Julien Vital Bertrand and Antoinette Séguin.
Again I will place the Bertrand family into folders and thus far I only have the last two generations with the pertinent documents. One project for this family will be to pull all the documents available back to the emigrant ancestor. In this case, the emigrant ancestor was Jean Bertrand who married Marie Charlotte Brard 23 Sep 1697 at Notre-Dame, Montréal. Looking at Tanguay, (although I have found a few errors in Tanguay I still consider this to be the best reference tool in terms of looking at an entire family of an emigrant) there are a number of Jean Bertrand marriages and according to the published records bringing us down to Julien Vital Bertrand we would select their son Jacques who married Marie Louise Dumouchel 19 Sep 1729 at Notre Dame, Montréal. Their son Michel Louis married Marie Josephte Boyer dit St-Germain 10 Aug 1778 at Saint Michel, Vaudreuil. Their son Antoine married Marie Josephte Cholet 11 Jan 1802 at Saint Michel, Vaudreuil. Julien Vital was a son of this couple. Tanguay only takes us to Michel Louis being identified as the son of Jacques Bertrand married to Marie Louise Dumouchel. but it is a good starting point. I need to then locate the marriage of Julien Vital Bertrand and Anoinette Séguin which I did by writing to a rootsweb site which promised lookups of the Registers at St Jean Baptiste, L'Orignal, Prescott, Ontario. This is also on the nosorigines website. I also found on WorldConnect
Married: 07 FEB 1842 in Paroisse Saint-Jean-Baptiste, L'Orignal, Comté de Prescott, Ontario, Canada 3
* Note:
Original :
M.5 Julien Vital Bertrand & Antoinette Seguin
On the seventh of February eighteen hundred and forty two, after two publications of banns at our parochial mase of L'Orignal, I the undersigned priest have joined & maried Julien Vital Bertrand son of age of Antoine Bertrand and of the late Joseph Cholette and to Antoinette Séguin daughter of Hiacinthe Seguin and of Monique Villeneuve of Hawkesbury in presence of Pierre Chabot & Marc Rochon
Signature :
P. Lefaivre Ptre
Translation :
M.5 Julien Vital Bertrand & Antoinette Seguin
Le sept Février mil huit cent quarante et deux, après la publication de deux bans aux messes paroissiales de L'Orignal. Je prêtre soussigné ai joint et marié Julien Vital Bertrand fils majeur d'Antoine Bertrand et de feue Joseph Cholette et a Antoinette Séguin fille de Hiacinthe Seguin et de Monique Villeneuve de Hawkesbury en présence de Pierre Chabot & Marc Rochon
Signature :
P. Lefaivre Ptre
Short of seeing the original register all of these items, the transcription is certainly very convincing.
The parents of Julien Vital Bertrand are named as Antoine Bertrand and Marie Josephte Cholet. It would appear that Julien Vital Bertrand has moved on from Vaudreuil where he was born and from Rigaud where his mother was buried in 1836 to L'Original. . This is a distance of approximately 20 kilometres.
From Wikipedia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Orignal,_Ontario):
L'Orignal is a village and former municipality, now part of Champlain Township in eastern Ontario, Canada. It likely took its name from its location on the Ottawa River once known as Pointe à l'Orignal (French for "Moose Point"), where moose crossed the river.
The marriage of Antoine Bertrand and Marie Josephte Cholet was celebrated 11 Jan 1802 at St Michel, Vaudreuil. I did find the scan of their marriage on ancestry and downloaded a copy to my files. However, Tanguay does not have this marriage so I must work my way back another generation to Michel Louis Bertrand and Marie Josephte Boyer dit St Germain who married 10 Aug 1778 at St Michel, Vaudreuil according to the published information on this family. Both Louis Michel and Marie Josephte appear to be widowed at the time of their marriage. One notes from given baptismal records that Louis Michel would have been 41 years of age and Marie Josephte 37 years of age. In order to find the parents of Luis Michel I need to find his first marriage. His first wife was Marie Charlotte Bertrand and they married 10 June 1763 at LaPrairie. Louis Michel parents were recorded as Jacques Bertrand and Marie Louise Dumouchelle. Tanguay records their marriage as 19 Sep 1729 at Montréal which I shall verify on my next study day for the Bertrand family. So Jean is the first generation, Jacques is the second generation, Louis Michel is the third generation, Antoine is the fourth generation, Julien Vital is the fifth generation and Antoinette is the sixth generation. I can now separate the files into folders with the Bertrand folder.
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
Mourier Family of Ottawa ON
The Mourier Family of Ottawa ON was a mystery until I chanced upon a reference to Maurice-Calixte Mourier in Les Français au Québec 1765-1865: un mouvement migratoire méconnu, Marcel Fournier was the author. Item #1357 on page 318 lists the following:
Mourier, Maurice-Calixte, oblat de Marie-Immaculee, ne le 16 aout 1835 a Romans sur Isere (Drome), de l'union de Jean-Calixte Mourier et de Melanie Monestier. Ordonne le 17 decembre 1859 a Ajaccio, il arive au Canada le 28 mars 1863. Il oeuvre a Ottawa, a la baie d'Hudson, a Hull, a Betsiamites, au lac Temiscamingue et a Pointe-Bleue. Il décède à Lachine le 5 aout 1912.
Fournier, Marcel, 1946-. Les Français au Québec, 1765-1865 : un mouvement migratoire méconnu / Marcel Fournier ; préface de Claude Galarneau -- Sillery, Québec : Éditions du Septentrion, 1995. -- 386 p. : ill., cartes, fac-sim., portr. ; 23 cm. -- ISBN 2894480253 -- AMICUS No. 13888218
I had finally solved the puzzle of why Marius-Joseph Mourier (born 16 Aug 1845 at Romans sur Isere (Drome)) the son of Jean-Calixte Mourier and Marie-Melanie Monestier had emigrated to Canada in 1873 (from the 1901 census). Possibly chain migration as his brother had preceded him in Canada arriving in 1863. His brother was a priest in Ottawa.
Marius Mourier married Antoinette Bertrand in 1877 in Hull Quebec. I have not yet located the marriage registration for this couple. Antoinette was the daughter of Julien Vital Bertrand and Antoinette Séguin according to published reports. The 1881 Census (East Ottawa Ward) we find Marius Mourier, aged 38 and Antoinette Mourier aged 23 with Marius born in France and Antoinette born in Quebec. The 1891 Census Morris Murier aged 45, born in France, parents both born in France and their children Adele, Gabrielle, Leon, and twins Honore and Anna with all born in Ontario except Leon who was born in France (but registered in Ontario). The 1901 Census all ten years older, place of birth for Leon left blank and the twins are missing, new daughter Marie Louise. The 1911 Census all ten years older and only Marie Louise is living with them. All other details the same. There is a new person (possibly a sister in law - difficult to read) from France. She is 65 years old.
I sorted into generations and this time Marius is generation one, coming down to Gabrielle is generation two and then following to the third generation which married into the Bédard family. Online I did find parents for Jean-Calixte Mourier (father of Marius) named Pierre Joseph Mourier and Marie Adélaide Virginie. I shall follow my usual process looking at NosOrigines, World Connect and Ancestry for further information.
Nosorigines ou GenealogieQuebec is my source for the information and they list Jean-Calixte as being born 29 March 1800 at Romans, département de la Drome, France and that he died 25 Apr 1886 at the age of 86 in Romans, France. Only three children are listed and two of them came to Canada. The third and eldest was their daughter who did not marry. No further information is available at this website. I did not find any information on World Connect. Ancestry family trees are all personal and no further information was found. Interesting that Jean Calixte died in 1886 as that is the year the son Leon was said to have been born in France.
There is more information online now for French records and I shall pursue that the next time that I am researching Mourier.
Mourier, Maurice-Calixte, oblat de Marie-Immaculee, ne le 16 aout 1835 a Romans sur Isere (Drome), de l'union de Jean-Calixte Mourier et de Melanie Monestier. Ordonne le 17 decembre 1859 a Ajaccio, il arive au Canada le 28 mars 1863. Il oeuvre a Ottawa, a la baie d'Hudson, a Hull, a Betsiamites, au lac Temiscamingue et a Pointe-Bleue. Il décède à Lachine le 5 aout 1912.
Fournier, Marcel, 1946-. Les Français au Québec, 1765-1865 : un mouvement migratoire méconnu / Marcel Fournier ; préface de Claude Galarneau -- Sillery, Québec : Éditions du Septentrion, 1995. -- 386 p. : ill., cartes, fac-sim., portr. ; 23 cm. -- ISBN 2894480253 -- AMICUS No. 13888218
I had finally solved the puzzle of why Marius-Joseph Mourier (born 16 Aug 1845 at Romans sur Isere (Drome)) the son of Jean-Calixte Mourier and Marie-Melanie Monestier had emigrated to Canada in 1873 (from the 1901 census). Possibly chain migration as his brother had preceded him in Canada arriving in 1863. His brother was a priest in Ottawa.
Marius Mourier married Antoinette Bertrand in 1877 in Hull Quebec. I have not yet located the marriage registration for this couple. Antoinette was the daughter of Julien Vital Bertrand and Antoinette Séguin according to published reports. The 1881 Census (East Ottawa Ward) we find Marius Mourier, aged 38 and Antoinette Mourier aged 23 with Marius born in France and Antoinette born in Quebec. The 1891 Census Morris Murier aged 45, born in France, parents both born in France and their children Adele, Gabrielle, Leon, and twins Honore and Anna with all born in Ontario except Leon who was born in France (but registered in Ontario). The 1901 Census all ten years older, place of birth for Leon left blank and the twins are missing, new daughter Marie Louise. The 1911 Census all ten years older and only Marie Louise is living with them. All other details the same. There is a new person (possibly a sister in law - difficult to read) from France. She is 65 years old.
I sorted into generations and this time Marius is generation one, coming down to Gabrielle is generation two and then following to the third generation which married into the Bédard family. Online I did find parents for Jean-Calixte Mourier (father of Marius) named Pierre Joseph Mourier and Marie Adélaide Virginie. I shall follow my usual process looking at NosOrigines, World Connect and Ancestry for further information.
Nosorigines ou GenealogieQuebec is my source for the information and they list Jean-Calixte as being born 29 March 1800 at Romans, département de la Drome, France and that he died 25 Apr 1886 at the age of 86 in Romans, France. Only three children are listed and two of them came to Canada. The third and eldest was their daughter who did not marry. No further information is available at this website. I did not find any information on World Connect. Ancestry family trees are all personal and no further information was found. Interesting that Jean Calixte died in 1886 as that is the year the son Leon was said to have been born in France.
There is more information online now for French records and I shall pursue that the next time that I am researching Mourier.
Saturday, April 23, 2011
Blake Family One Name Study and Bédard
With my membership in the Guild of One Name Studies comes the perk of Marriage Challenges. These are very handy especially with the price of a marriage registration certificate being now nine pounds sterling. The marriages help to establish the family lines in the 1800s and are an absolute must in any family study. I am slowly working away on the 30,000 Blake marriages in England matching up couples where possible but individual marriage challenges do this for me automatically as the data is pulled from the original parish registers and civil registers. I searched out my marriages for two today and I had already prepared my excel file for both of them so it was an easy transfer. I hadn't matched up all the marriages using the census so I proceeded to do that and it is a lengthy task to do 35 marriages working through FreeBMD and the census.
I am also working on the The Blake Newsletter and it was written by Barrie Blake this time. I am just adding or revising a couple of items - we do each others and that works very well as it is really difficult to proofread your own work.
It is certainly nice to be settling back into regular research. I need to now plan my research time for the French Canadian lines of our son in law. I have allotted one hour per day (it can easily run to two hours because of the placement) to work on each of his 32 3x great grandparents. This may seem like a lot but indeed I could just as easily of gone back to the 6x great grandparents and worked on all of them as well. It is a consideration on my part as I have assigned 28 to their own individual day and then I have placed two on the weekends where it works otherwise I have three in one day on a weekday because the calendar doesn't have an exact number of days per month. My own lines I have rotating on an eight week basis - five to a week but I do not have nearly as many of my 4x great grandparents covered in my research!
I will be working on Bédard, Whélan, Matte, Gagnon, Mourier, Bertrand, Nepveu, Audet dit Lapointe, Grégoire, Séguin dit Ladéroute, Tremblay, Labelle, Lauzon, Brunet, Lanoie, Rhéaume, Dumoulin, Renaud, Larente dit Vinet, Cadieux, Clément, Charlebois, Pomainville, Pilon, Prévost, Desjardins, Deschatelets, Quesnel, St-Jean, Lavigne, Chénier and Racine. I am considering doing a second month which would include Patry, Fournier dit Larose, Bénoit dit Vaillacourt, Doutre, Monestier, Piché, Richer, Hémard dit Poitvin, Groux, Bernard dit Blondin, Lacroix, Thibaut, Constantineau, Boileau, Payette dit St-Amour, Sarrazin, Demers, Blais, Racicot, Lamarque dit Matthieu, Chantal, Desloges dit Poirier, Monette dit Boiseux, Creujeur (Kruger), St-Denis, Legault, D'Amour, Campeau, and Douras (Douvas). This would then take me back to the 4x great grandparents and mostly in the early 1800s/late 1700s. I have already taken his lines back to early New France and to the parents in France but I have not yet collected all the registrations. I would also like to now seek out the notary records and other records that might be at Library and Archives Canada which would give a fuller picture of these families.
I shall follow approximately the same process each day. First I will check to make sure I have all the registrations from Ancestry or the LDS website as an image in the family folder. Then within each folder I shall arrange them by generation from the emigrant. If I eventually find the registrations for these families in France then I shall simply alter the arabic to a roman numeral with the roman numerals marking the generations back from the emigrant and the parents being the I generation. I shall then check Tanguay to see if what I have also blends in with what he has (I started to use Tanguay about a year after I started). In the cases where I am still in the late 1700s, Tanguay is great to help you look at the lines going back to the emigrant. I shall also have a look at Ancestry family trees and World Connect. I will also search the Library and Archives Canada website to note items that I wish to check on my next visit.
Process:
I am also working on the The Blake Newsletter and it was written by Barrie Blake this time. I am just adding or revising a couple of items - we do each others and that works very well as it is really difficult to proofread your own work.
It is certainly nice to be settling back into regular research. I need to now plan my research time for the French Canadian lines of our son in law. I have allotted one hour per day (it can easily run to two hours because of the placement) to work on each of his 32 3x great grandparents. This may seem like a lot but indeed I could just as easily of gone back to the 6x great grandparents and worked on all of them as well. It is a consideration on my part as I have assigned 28 to their own individual day and then I have placed two on the weekends where it works otherwise I have three in one day on a weekday because the calendar doesn't have an exact number of days per month. My own lines I have rotating on an eight week basis - five to a week but I do not have nearly as many of my 4x great grandparents covered in my research!
I will be working on Bédard, Whélan, Matte, Gagnon, Mourier, Bertrand, Nepveu, Audet dit Lapointe, Grégoire, Séguin dit Ladéroute, Tremblay, Labelle, Lauzon, Brunet, Lanoie, Rhéaume, Dumoulin, Renaud, Larente dit Vinet, Cadieux, Clément, Charlebois, Pomainville, Pilon, Prévost, Desjardins, Deschatelets, Quesnel, St-Jean, Lavigne, Chénier and Racine. I am considering doing a second month which would include Patry, Fournier dit Larose, Bénoit dit Vaillacourt, Doutre, Monestier, Piché, Richer, Hémard dit Poitvin, Groux, Bernard dit Blondin, Lacroix, Thibaut, Constantineau, Boileau, Payette dit St-Amour, Sarrazin, Demers, Blais, Racicot, Lamarque dit Matthieu, Chantal, Desloges dit Poirier, Monette dit Boiseux, Creujeur (Kruger), St-Denis, Legault, D'Amour, Campeau, and Douras (Douvas). This would then take me back to the 4x great grandparents and mostly in the early 1800s/late 1700s. I have already taken his lines back to early New France and to the parents in France but I have not yet collected all the registrations. I would also like to now seek out the notary records and other records that might be at Library and Archives Canada which would give a fuller picture of these families.
I shall follow approximately the same process each day. First I will check to make sure I have all the registrations from Ancestry or the LDS website as an image in the family folder. Then within each folder I shall arrange them by generation from the emigrant. If I eventually find the registrations for these families in France then I shall simply alter the arabic to a roman numeral with the roman numerals marking the generations back from the emigrant and the parents being the I generation. I shall then check Tanguay to see if what I have also blends in with what he has (I started to use Tanguay about a year after I started). In the cases where I am still in the late 1700s, Tanguay is great to help you look at the lines going back to the emigrant. I shall also have a look at Ancestry family trees and World Connect. I will also search the Library and Archives Canada website to note items that I wish to check on my next visit.
Process:
- Label generations within the family folder
- Pull missing registrations from Ancestry and LDS website
- Check Tanguay
- Check Ancestry family trees
- Check World Connect family trees
- Search LAC for incidences of family name
Sunday, February 21, 2010
Proving the 3x great grandparents
After the last week or so of diversion away from the logical proving in my Legacy file of the ancestors I have returned to working on the 3x great grandparents on the paternal side. I need to find a marriage (verbally verified by email) at the Ontario Archives next time we are there for Léon Matte and Marie Louise Gagnon. I would also like to locate the marriages of their parents. Olivier Gagnon and Josephte Doutre are said to have married at St Luc, Curran, Prescott County, Ontario 26 Jun 1844 but I do not have not yet located the marriage of Joseph Louis Matte and Josephte delaTour. I also do not have the parents of this couple. This is a large brickwall in this line. I do not know for sure the parents of Olivier Gagnon but Josephte Doutre's parents appear to be Etienne Denis Doutre and Victoire Lalonde. Finding the marriage at Curran would answer that question for sure but the baptism of Josephte Doutre born at Plantagenent 5 Jan 1825 and baptized 9 Feb 1825 at Montébello do have these parents listed. The date of birth for Josephte matches the census. For Olivier Gagnon he appears to be born about 1811 from his death registration where his age is given as 88 in 1900.
I will continue working on these proofs and I am now on the Mourier family. A very interesting line as he is the only ancestor to have come from France (or anywhere else for that matter) in the 1800s. He arrived before 1877 and was born in 1845 in France. I haven't found him on the 1871 census yet but will continue checking that. I have not yet found his arrival in the immigration records. The information I have for his parents is from the nosorigines.qc.ca website. This is an excellent website to use I have found thus far. I check every record in Ancestry but having the thoughts is helpful.
I will continue working on these proofs and I am now on the Mourier family. A very interesting line as he is the only ancestor to have come from France (or anywhere else for that matter) in the 1800s. He arrived before 1877 and was born in 1845 in France. I haven't found him on the 1871 census yet but will continue checking that. I have not yet found his arrival in the immigration records. The information I have for his parents is from the nosorigines.qc.ca website. This is an excellent website to use I have found thus far. I check every record in Ancestry but having the thoughts is helpful.
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
French Canadian ancestry - Lauzon
I had a very successful day looking at the Lauzon family and discovered a tree online which I shall pursue with the actual records. I tend to do genealogy from the respect of what others have done before me. The Lauzon family has been quite researched I have discovered with at least five distinct trees online tracing back to the founding couple Pierre Lauzon and Anne Boivin. The line I am looking at descends through their son Gilles and Marie Archambault, their son Gilles and Marie-Anne Grolx, their son Gilles and Marie Anne Viau dit Lesperance, their son Joseph and Marie Catherine Fontigney dite St Jean. This marriage I have found on Drouin and was the point that I was at in my research yesterday when I found the earlier information where I now need to locate the records. I have the marriage for Augustin (son of Joseph and Marie Catherine) who married Clemence Chaumont to their son Joseph married to Rosalie Thibaut. Their son Augustin married Hélèna Brunet at Notre Dame de la Salette, Papineau and their eldest son Joseph Telesphore Augustin Lauzon married Dora Lanoie at Sturgeon Falls in 1910. I wondered if this was correct but my good fortune yesterday was to find Augustin and Hélèna at Sturgeon Falls on the 1901 census so this marriage is now working for the tree.
I now have all the information for the tree for the Lauzon family back nine generations (chart is nine generations) once I find all the records before the marriage of Joseph Lauzon and Marie Catherine Fontigney dite St Jean. I would also like to find all the baptisms and burials before I actually give the chart away. I am still lacking information on some of the feeder lines into this family Brunet, Constantineau, Deguire dit LaRose, Brunet dit Lalang, Lanoie, Boileau, Rhéaume, and St Armour. For the first four I need two generations and for the next four I need three generations. So still quite a bit of work.
That still leaves me with three other main lines (Grégoire, Bédard and Mourier). I already know the Mourier line will be more difficult because the furtherest back member that I have traced thus far was born in France in 1845 (although still four generations have been born in Canada!). Amazingly in this entire family that I have researched thus far this is the only individual not born in Canada until we get back into the 1600s (earliest baptism thus far is 1639). An amazing number of French Canadian families (no duplicates thus far) is part of this entire tree. I am putting the emphasis on this research now because of the new baby coming in the spring (our daughter's first niece or nephew, her husband's brother's child). It would be so nice to have a chart all ready for the baby.
Today I shall find the proofs for the Lauzon family and then continue working on the other feeder families for this particular main line.
I now have all the information for the tree for the Lauzon family back nine generations (chart is nine generations) once I find all the records before the marriage of Joseph Lauzon and Marie Catherine Fontigney dite St Jean. I would also like to find all the baptisms and burials before I actually give the chart away. I am still lacking information on some of the feeder lines into this family Brunet, Constantineau, Deguire dit LaRose, Brunet dit Lalang, Lanoie, Boileau, Rhéaume, and St Armour. For the first four I need two generations and for the next four I need three generations. So still quite a bit of work.
That still leaves me with three other main lines (Grégoire, Bédard and Mourier). I already know the Mourier line will be more difficult because the furtherest back member that I have traced thus far was born in France in 1845 (although still four generations have been born in Canada!). Amazingly in this entire family that I have researched thus far this is the only individual not born in Canada until we get back into the 1600s (earliest baptism thus far is 1639). An amazing number of French Canadian families (no duplicates thus far) is part of this entire tree. I am putting the emphasis on this research now because of the new baby coming in the spring (our daughter's first niece or nephew, her husband's brother's child). It would be so nice to have a chart all ready for the baby.
Today I shall find the proofs for the Lauzon family and then continue working on the other feeder families for this particular main line.
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