Fournier dit Larose family

Emilie Fournier dite Larose married Thomas Welland/Whélan 13 Jan 1835 at Notre Dame Cathedral in Québec City.

The parents of Emilie Fournier dite Larose were identified as Jean Baptiste Fournier dit Larose and Elizabeth Labbé who were themselves married 10 Oct 1809 in Québec City.

M Jean Baptiste Fournier et Elizabeth Thibaut dite Labbé

Le dix Octobre Mil huit Cent neuf, après la publica
tion de trois bans de mariage faite au prones de nos
messes paroissiales entre Jean Baptiste Fournier, cha
retter, domicilié en cette ville, fils mineur de jérome
Fournier Charretier et de Magdelaine Godin, consente
au dit mariage et de cette paroisse d'autre part et Eliza
Thibaut dite Labbé domiciliée en cette ville, fille mineure de Franç
ois Thibaut dit Labbé journalier consentant au dit mariage et de def
Françoise Perpignan dite Pougeollo de cette paroisse
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement
nous curé soussigné avond reçu leur mutuel consen
tement et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptials en
présence de jérome Fournier Père et d'André gi__

ami de l'époux; de Franç Thibault dit Labbé
Père et de Marie Anne Brauché amie de l'épouse
ont tous déclarés avec les époux ne savoir signer

Trois _____
A Daoust Pretre

The parents of Jean Baptiste Fournier being thus identified as Jérome Fournier and Magdeleine Godin who were themselves married 17 Jan 1786 at Québec City.

Mariage de Jerome Fournier et de Magdaleine Gaudin

Le dix sept janvier mil sept cent quatre vingt six après la publication
de trois bans de mariage faite au prone de notre messe parosialle le jour
des trois ____dimanches consecutifs entre Jerome Fournier, fils d'emerie
Fournier dit Larose et de Marguerite  Guenet de cette paroisse d'une
part; et Magdlaine Gaudin aussi en cette ville fille de Thiery
Gaudin et de défunte Marguerite Lefebvre ses pere et mere de la paroisse
des Ecureuils d'autre part; ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement
au dit mariage, nous soussigné curé de Québec avoir reçu leur mutuel
consentement et leur avoir donné la bénédiction nuptiale selon
la forme proscrite par notre mere la Ste église en presence de
Emerie Fournier pere, Jean Baptiste Fournier frere, Antoine _____
______ Antoine Jacsonpere, Simon Delmasec amis, Nicolas
Gaudin frere, Jean Ahrens amies de l'épouse et de plusieurs autres parens
et amis. ___quelques ajssi ont signé avec nous, les époux et autres ne le savoir. Lecture faite.

Emery Fournier [signed]
antoine jacsonpere [signed]
Johan Ahrens [signed]
Aug: D Hubin Pretre

The parents of Jérome Fournier being thus identified as Emerie Fournier dit Larose and Marguerite Quenet who were themselves married 14 Feb 1757 at Québec. The marriage lines identify Emerie Amien dit LaRose as a soldier in the Guienne Regiment and a son of Jean Baptiste Amien and Pauline Fournier who live in France. Hence Emerie Fournier dit Larose is the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1. Interesting that he has chosen to carry the name of his mother rather than his father since the marriage registration does list him as Emers Amien dit LaRose.

Jérome Fournier dit Larose married to Magdeleine Godin is Generation 2.

Jean Baptiste Fournier dit Larose married to Elizabeth Thibaut dite Labbé is Generation 3.

Emilie Fournier dite Larose married to Thomas Welland/Whélan is Generation 4.

The next research day I will ensure that I have collected all the documents plus see what I can learn about the Guienne Regiment.

Whélan Family

On the 1871 census Thomas Whélan and his wife listed as Emilie Whélan are living at Quebec city and he is a carpenter (they have seven children listed (their daughter Emélie married Charles Alexandre Bédard in 1863) and Thomas lists his Origin as French.

Thomas Welland married Emilie Fournier dit Larose 13 Jan 1835 at Notre Dame Cathedral in Québec City.

M 1 Thomas Welland and Emilie Fournier dit Larose

Le treize janvier mil huir cent trente cinq après la
publication de trois bans de mariage faite aux prones des messes pa
raissoiles de Québec entre Thomas Welland peinteur, domicilié en la
paroisse de Québec, fils majeur de feu Thomas Welland et de defunte Elizabeth
pepin dit Lachance d'une part; et Emilie Fournier dit Larose, fille mineure
de Jean Baptiste Fournier dit Larose et de Elizabeth Labbé, domiciliée, ainsi
que leur dite fille en la paroisse de Québec, d'autre part; auque la dite
Emilie Fournier dit Larose avait le consentement de ses peère et mère
et que d'ailleurs il n'opparaissait aucun empechement nous pretre Curé
de Québec soussigné avont reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et
leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de pierre drolet
ami de l'époux et de Joseph Fournier dit Larose, père de l'épouse
qui tous deux ainsi que les époux ont déclaré ne savoir signer
M T Baillargeon Pretre

The priest has recorded his surname as Welland although the census uses Whélan as the surname.

The burial of Thomas Welland is recorded at Sherington

S 3 Thomas Welland

Le huir Fevrier mil huit cent soixante
cinq Nous curé soussigné avons inhume
dans le cimetière de cette paroisse le
corps de Thomas Welland décédé avante
hier a l'agé de soxiante treize ans
veuf de Mary Griffin de cette paroisse.
Etaient présents François Gilineau
et Raymond Robert qui son déclaré ne savoir signer

J Mineau Pretre

I do not know if this is the father of Thomas Welland married to Elisabeth Pépin dit Lachance, I have not yet found this marriage. In contact with another researcher and he hasn't been able to locate the marriage or discover anything further on Thomas Welland/Whélan.

Noting that Thomas Whélan married to Emilie Fournier dit Larose saw his origin as French, I think that I should perhaps look further back in the registers and not assume that Thomas Welland is necessarily from Ireland in the late 1700s. I did indeed find that one of the witnesses at the burial of Patrice Whelan in 1802 was Pierre Bédard. I also found there were two Bédard/Whélan marriages in the late 1700s. More investigation needed into this and see what I can find on the Whélan family in the 1700s. Next research for the Whelan will involve my having a look at the records in the 1700s for this family.

Bédard and Whélan families

Sorting the Bédard family into generational folders should enable me to now pull the other pertinent registrations from Ancestry or FamilySearch. I have accumulated a lot of the records but probably have as much again to download and save to files. The Bédard family lines include both sons of the emigrant Isaac Bédard and Marie Girard. Isaac and Marie were married 20 Mar 1644 in Chapelle Sainte-Marguerite, LaRochelle, Charente-Maritime, France. I do not have a baptism for Isaac (circa 1616 at St Sulpice de Paris, France) or Marie Girard said to have been baptized 16 Feb 1623 at Chapelle Sainte Marguerite, LaRochelle and the daughter of Simon Girard and Françoise Giraudet. This family is recorded as Generation I although they did emigrate to New France it is their son Isaac that I have placed in Generation 1although Isaac and Marie do not quite fit the criteria (were not married in New France), but they arrived in 1660 (father and son) where Jacques and Isaac were master carpenters with their wives and children arriving by 1663. Generation 2 of this family was also born in France Jacques was baptized 18 Dec 1644 at Chapelle Sainte Marguerite, LaRochelle and Louis 25 Feb 1655 as well. I would like to acquire the records for LaRochelle (these records I have from King's Daughters and Founding Mothers: The Filles du Roi 1663-1673 and written by Peter J Gagné) and will work away at that but moving forward Jacques married Elizabeth (Isabelle) Doucinet 4 Oct 1666 in Notre-Dame, Ville du Québec and Louis married Marie Madeleine Huppé. Elizabeth Doucinet was a Fille du Roi. I need to learn more about Marie Madeleine Huppé. I have not yet found the marriage registration for this couple. These two sons are both in Generation 2. Generation 3 has two sets of Bédard records for the two sons Charles François (son of Jacques) and Bernard (son of Louis). Generation 4 has the daughter of Bernard - Madeleine Marie who married Jean Pierre Villeneuve 23 Nov 1744 at Charlesbourg and this line then moves to the Villeneuve folder but Charles Joseph (son of  Charles François) continues the Bédard line down. I shall have to see how well this works out but it appears to be a good way to look at the ancestral lines. The Legacy file will maintain the links between the families when I produce an ahnantafel chart showing the generations back for each level. The next time that I work on the Bédard family I shall start with Generation 12 and insert the relevant documentation which is the marriage of our son in law and daughter. Then I can ensure that the line back is correct although it also matches the published information on this family. It is more a matter of collecting the relevant documents - this family is readily traced back to the founding Bédard family.

I also sorted out the folders for the Whélan family and this is one of my brick walls. I know that Charles Alexandre Bédard married Marie Emélie Whélan 29 Jul 1863 at Eglise St Jean Baptiste, Québec. Her parents were listed as Jean Thomas Whelan and Emilie Fournier dite Larose. Both Charles, his father Pierre and Jean Thomas were all carpenters (all three men signed the marriage register). The marriage of Jean Thomas Whelan and Emilie Fournier dite Larose took place 13 Jan 1835 at Notre-Dame, Québec with the priest recording the names as Thomas Welland and Emilie Fournier dite Larose. Thomas Welland (painter) was the son of Thomas Welland and Elizabeth Pépin dite Lachance and Emilie Fournier dite Larose daughter of Jean Baptiste Fournier dit Larose and Elizabeth Labbé. Linking these families apears to be quite straightforward. On the 1871 census Thomas Whélan and Emilie Whélan are still at Quebec city and he is a carpenter (they have seven children listed (Emélie married in 1863) and lists his Origin as Français. My next research day I will concentrate on Thomas and see what I can discover about him. Tanguay lists only one entry for an alternative spelling of this name - Edouard Wehenlan and very scant information which appears to be a second wife Suzanne Power born at Ballobrican, Ireland. World Connect offers four trees for this family none of which provide any further information. The website Généalogie du Québec et de l'Acadie does not have this particular set of information and once I am convinced that I have sufficient proof I will add the information. Ancestry offers four trees for this line but none go back before Thomas Welland (Whelan) and Elizabeth Pépin dite Lachance.

Whelan/Welland and Fournier dit Larose families

I have been trying different approaches to work on the Whelan/Welland family. Knowing the history of this family might be helpful. The family is at Quebec City in the early 1800s and I know that Marie Emélie Whelan who was baptized 27 Jun 1843 at Notre-Dame is the daughter of Jean Thomas Whelan/Welland and that by the census he is born circa 1814. Jean Thomas Whelan married Emilie Fournier dite Larose (b c 1816 Quebec) were married 13 Jan 1835 at Notre-Dame, Quebec City. I have been lucky with Emilie as I found her parents to be Jean Baptiste Fournier dit Larose and Elisabeth Thibaut dite Labbé who married at Quebec city 10 Oct 1809.

I then found the parents of Jean Baptiste Fournier dit Larose to be Jérome Fournier dit Larose and Magdeleine Godin who also married at Quebec City 17 Jan 1786.

Magdeleine's parents were Thiery Gaudin and Marguerite Lefebvre who married 7 Jan 1755 at St Jean Baptiste, Les Ecureuils de Portneuf. Reading their marriage lines yielded parents as: Jean Gaudin and Geneviève François and Nicolas Lefebvre and Marguerite Godbout. Although World Connect suggests parents for all four of these people I shall work on this marriage as their suggestions seem to have parents a little older than I would have thought. I need to read the registers for this time period.

Going back to Jérome Fournier dit Larose I found his parents to be Emerie Fournier dit Larose and Marguerite Guenet and they married 14 Feb 1757 at Notre-Dame, Quebec City. I will continue working on the Fournier and Whelan/Welland lines today.