Parents of Nathanael Lambden, Brick Wall Number 7

Brick Wall Number 7: Parents of Nathanael Lambden

Nathanael Lambden doesn't appear very often in the records but he signed the marriage registration of his daughter Elizabeth and Isaac Farmer. Isaac Farmer also neatly signed this marriage registration. Elizabeth, however, did not sign but made an X. It is possible that Nathanael was a wheelwright at Woodhouse in Andover but his parentage is somewhat of a mystery. The spelling of his name Nathanael might be a clue and there is a baptism for a Nathanael Lambden 26 Jul 1724 at Bradfield, Berkshire son of John Lambden and Joan Baruttine (married 11 Oct 1721 at Bradfield). When Nathanael and his wife Sarah baptized their children they were named: Nathaniel, John, William and Elizabeth. The children of John and Joan Lambden all baptized at Bradfield: Nathanael (1724), Sarah (1727), Mary (1729), John (1733), Benjamin (1736), Joseph (1739).

I have not yet persued the original record of the Berkshire baptism but the Lambden family is most prevalent in Berkshire in the earlier records (looking at the Public Profiler the most frequent location for Lambden in 1881 was Berkshire and secondly in North Hampshire/Wiltshire). Later records find this family at St Mary Bourne, Hampshire (larger in numbers than in Andover) but no Nathanael found there. Interestingly, Elizabeth's brother Nathaniel Lambden married Catherine Cook at Hurstborne Tarrant 8 Oct 1794 and they named their sons: Nathaniel, William, Thomas and John. This family lived at Hurstborne Tarrant.

Again this brick wall could come down with a more dedicated pursuit of the Lambden family in Bradfield and discovering if Nathanael was a wheelwright as mentioned in another website.

Elizabeth (Lambden) Farmer was my 3x great grandmother and she lived to be 96 years old. My grandfather mentioned her when I was a child as she had died in 1862 (baptized 16 Mar 1766 at Andover) and by 1875 when he was born they must have still been talking about her long life. Her daughter Ann had married John Blake and Ann in her widowhood had lived right next door to my grandfather and likely was the source of many of the stories that he passed on to me about his Farmer/Lambden family. I do not clearly remember if he said that Nathanael was a wheelwright. That memory is too vague - I was just eight years old when he died.

The oldest records for the Lambden family in Berkshire date back to the 1260s. But I have not seen this family researched to any great extent. Until I can actually link back to John and Joan Lambden as the parents of Nathanael, I am brickwalled at this point. It would appear that this family has taken its name from a property known as Lambden.

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-40041-lambden-s-farmhouse-englefield-

This website points to a farmhouse known as Lambden at Englefield, Berkshire. Englefield is just 1.9 miles from Bradfield.

Proving 4x great grandparents

I am now back to the project that I want to complete before we have our trip to Salt Lake City. I discovered I have proven Joseph Blake, Joanna King, John Coleman and I was working on Elizabeth Pearce. I discovered that Elizabeth (Pearce) Coleman had remarried in 1781 (her husband was buried in 1780 at Upper Clatford. I suspect that they lived with Dinah (Bever) Coleman and that they were involved in running an Inn although I still have to ferret out those details. The Coleman family had an Inn at Goodworth Clatford in the late 1600s and on into the 1700s but I am not sure how long they were there yet. Still working on those details! Elizabeth married John Head in 1781 at Upper Clatford. The marriage registration lists her as a widow and I finally have now found her burial registration in 1823 at Upper Clatford and she was 85 years old. This works well back to the Elizabeth Pearce baptized at Collingbourne Ducis in 1737. This is one record that I need to look at when we are in Salt Lake City. I did do some photography of this register but I was looking for Farmer entries. Elizabeth Pearce's grandmother was likely Anne Farmer and so the story may start to come together for the Farmer family which married into the Lambden family and then into the Blake family. I was trying to place Isaac Farmer in Andover but the only really good match is at Collingbourne Ducis. I completed my proof for Elizabeth Pearce but with the stipulation that I need to verify the details on her baptism and her parentage which would appear to be William Pearce and Elizabeth Hapgood. Elizabeth is from Collingbourne Ducis and the daughter of Thomas Hapgood and Anne Farmer. If I can indeed prove this line then the linkage with the Farmer family is very intriguing. Isaac Farmer was orphaned by the time he was 7 years old but he signs his marriage registration with a firm hand and well rounded letters leading one to suspect that he was educated. I related earlier my suspicions on the Farmer family so will not expand on that thought at this moment in time.

I then moved on to my Knight 4x great grandparents. This has been something I have wanted to work on for awhile. I did not do any Knight research at Salt Lake City and will do that the next time. I have a lot of information from other researchers who link this family back to the Knight family at Shaftesbury and then Cann before that. I am still sitting at William Knight (burial at Winterborne Stickland is a W Knight in 1827 and the individual is 67 years old which would work well with the records that I have for him. There are not a large number of Knight families at Stickland and I more or less know each one there. The baptism that I am looking for is at Spetisbury. At Spetisbury in 1787 we have three Knight members listed on the Militia list - William Knight bricklayer, John Knight bricklayer, John Knight, servant bricklayer (apprentice perhaps). Possibly this is John Knight son of William Knight. Eleanor though the wife of Ellis (son of William above) is the daughter of John Knight who is a bricklayer. Are they first cousins? Family lore says that they are first cousins. William Knight and Mary Dashwood at Shaftesbury (and the Knight family is not there after the 1860s when they are found at Spetisbury) had sons William, Samuel, George, John, and Thomas. Ideally I would be looking for this William to have sons William and John and indeed they do. But is this John the father of Eleanor who married Ellis the son of William. That I am still not sure about. The difference in their station continues to plague me - John was a bricklayer and William was an agricultural labourer. I need some interesting entry that relates them so that I can actually say that they are both the sons of William Knight the bricklayer. I have started entering my proofs for them. This is my grandfather Samuel Blake's line back (his 2x great grandparents). I have thus far proven four of the sixteen. I have evidence to complete John Butt, Jane Durnford, William Arnold and Elizabeth Malton. That brings me half way. I need to add to my Knight data which is four more (two Knight and one each Ellis and Vincent). The Farmer line I do have information on the likely father of Isaac and his name was John. I have no idea of his mother's name at the moment. The Lambden line I have information on Nathanael but I am not sure that the Nathanael baptized at Bradfield Berkshire is him and need to look at the other Nathaniel baptized in this time period in Berkshire. He was not baptized at St Mary Bourne. The wife of Nathanael Lambden is thus far unknown beyond the forename of Sarah and her burial in 1797 at Andover Hampshire.

Today I am having my eyes tested and more on that later. I have been meaning to upgrade my glasses for awhile but at $200 a lens I need to contemplate it for awhile! I think they need to be a little stronger perhaps in the reading portion. Although I am reading this quite well at 18 inches from the computer. We will see!

I shall dedicate another day to my grandfather's 2x great grandparents as that should permit me to add all the proofs and images to my Legacy file. Then I shall move on to my grandmother Blake's families. I will prove her "natural" parent line Cotterill (I am missing one of her 2x great grandmothers) but I want to find the grandparents of her adopted father William Taylor and perhaps beyond if I am lucky. The researcher who is doing this line has not gone beyond what I have done thus far. Perhaps she will later and she lives in England so has easier access to the registers. For her mother's line I will be able to prove those eight lines as I have collected all the evidence.

For my maternal grandfather I have the proofs for all sixteen of his 2x great grandparents. I collected all of that information (which I didn't have already) when we were at Salt Lake City last time. For my maternal grandmother I still have the problem of using family lore to connect my Ellen Taylor (her mother) back to her parents. If that connection is true then I have the proofs for five out of eight. On my grandmother's father's side I have the proofs for four out of eight. I need to work on the Cheatle lineat the 4x great grandparents but I have the fiche for that. For my Christopher Buller's parents I do not have even an inkling at this point in time. Another line to research at Salt Lake City.

That means I will work on the Pearce family at Abbotts Ann/Collingbourne Kingston, Collingbourne Ducis to find William Pearce my 5x great grandfather and his line. I will work on the Knight family to sort them out. I will work on the Farmer family at Collingbourne Ducis - I have some information on them already that I need to sort. I will work on the Lambden family in Berkshire. I will look at my paternal Grandmother's natural parentage at the 5x great grandparent level. I will seek out the family of William Taylor (her adopted father). I want to do more work on the Charley family at Kentisbear Devon. I have a few 5x great grandparents in my mother's that are known and I need to check the registers for their parents information.

I shall soon start to build my excel file for Salt Lake City. I have one created that includes the itens that I set aside last time and I will add more items to it. I know that I can look at about 40 to 50 films if I control my day very well. I am more experienced with the camera which will help and I will repeat the few pictures that are blurry and I really want to have a good copy. Quite often the ones that were blurry were not a problem for me.

I spent most of the afternoon working on the West Hampshire Tax Subsidy as I had copied about 30 pages when we were at Salt Lake city. I am producing an excel file that I can sort by surname, forename, year or place. I have a number of Hampshire ancestors who are listed in this set of records. Since I did not have eye drops I could spend the rest of the day working - a real surprise.

My new glasses will be ready in a couple of weeks and will be a change. They are not big round lenses this time but rather more of an oblong shape. I tried them out for a bit and quite liked them.

Tomorrow I will continue with the Tax Subsidy for West Hampshire.

Lambden - St Mary Bourne

I am amazed at the speed with which we are now at 13 September since my last blog post was the 6 September. Labour Day monday was a labour free day for me as we decided to bike and took a long ride. Then we watched JAG. Tuesday we watched JAG once again. Wednesday we went to the LDS library where my St Mary Bourne film had arrived and I wanted to image more of the Great Driffield film. Ed filmed Great Driffied from the burials 1653 up to the 1753 and included the baptisms and marriages from 1703 on. That was over 500 images and I shall have to read through them before going to the LDS once again. My Sproxton line was at Great Driffield well into the 1800s. My own direct line had moved on to Lund by the mid 1700s.

St Mary Bourne was a typed manuscript (which I knew) and is the only record that the LDS holds. I wanted to look at it before I ordered the fiche for St Mary Bourne from the Hampshire Record Office. There isn't a Nathanael/Nathaniel Lambden listed there and now I need to decide whether I should start moving further afield from Bradfield Berkshire by ordering the Thatcham Berkshire film or buy the St Mary Bourne film and transcribe it for myself. There are quite a few baptisms, marriages and burials at St Mary Bourne extended back into the early 1600s and the Lambden family continues there into the 1800s. Some of these Lambden members move to Andover and are found there in the mid 1700s along with my Nathanael Lambden family. I shall think it over for a week or so whilst we wait for the Warlin film to arrive for Ed. He is researching his Niemann family there and we found those entries on the IGI now that we have the full name for the father of Rachel Niemann (Ed's great grandmother).

Today is a very busy day so will have to complete the week's blog tomorrow.

I have to work on my talk this next week - I want to check for any new information on my studies. It will be nice to complete my talk as it tends to wake me up in the night - I practise in my sleep however not on purpose - it is simply my way of preparing for a talk.

Pincombe and family, Visit to FHC

A two part post today as I am beginning the day by looking once again at my Pincombe family in Bishops Nympton and the families that married into the Pincombe family (I am sure that members of the other families see this exactly opposite :) ).

The Blackemoore family at Bishops Nympton and mine appears to have been there from the beginning of the Parish Registers was initially a puzzle for me. I had found the marriage of Johan Blackemore and John Pincombe and believed them to be the parents of William Pincombe who married Mary Vicary 17 Jun 1685 at Bishops Nympton and they were the parents of two children in as much as I am able to determine. John was baptized 12 Jul 1692 at Bishops Nympton and his sister Joan was buried 26 Mar 1726 but I do not have a baptism for her. Their mother was buried 5 Apr 1726 and all at Bishops Nympton.

Once I established that the chart that I had inherited from the earlier Pincombe researchers was incorrect - the marriage between Grace Manning and John Pincombe was a John Pincombe from a different line - then I was able to move backwards. I determined that the parents of my John Pincombe married to Mary Charley (Charlie) were indeed John Pincombe and Grace Manning since the John Pincombe that was a son of John Pincombe and Catherine Bryer was clearly someone else in the register.

I could then go back to the family of John Pincombe and Johane Blackemore and follow their children's lines which brought me to John Pincombe and Catherine Bryer through a different son. Then I had Johane Blackemore and which one was she. That proved to be quite straightforward that she was the daughter of Anthonie Blackemore (Anthonie was buried just three months before the wedding and the bride's mother is identified as Johane) and his father was Thomas Blackemore who appears on the Devon Visitation of 1620. This visitation lists the ARMS: Or, on a fess between three moors' heads side-faced, couped sable, three crescents argent and CREST: A moor's head erased sable, gorged or.

All these crests are very interesting and I think over time I will accumulate them just for "meat on the bones" of our ancestors. In this case I can trace directly back to the holder of this coat of arms (Thomas Blackemoore). Now that I have worked that through I will add it all to my Pincombe one name study Legacy tree which is slowly growing and will eventually be on my website.

I could photograph all the charts and put them up and may do that one day but for the moment I think they are confusing since I have found some of them inaccurate. They were put together by the earlier researchers using information gleaned first hand from informants. Although interesting, I feel more comfortable with the BMB, will and land information being used to reconstruct family lines. It is easy to mix lines!

My post will continue later with my observations from the Family History Centre as we will be off to there in another hour or so.

I spent the entire three hours on the Hutton Cranswick microfilm. I was able to find the marriage of John Sproxton and Anne Huser in 1659. I am not sure where this Sproxton line is going actually. I did some searching on the Internet last night (I only just learned about my Sproxton line last fall when we went to Salt Lake City and I could see the correct spelling - incorrectly spelled on the IGI) and there was a village called Sproxton in North Riding of Yorkshire which is in the Domesday Book as the King's Land. The Sproxton family seem to be quite old and they lived at Wakefield WRY in the 1500s. The next record to search is the Protestation Returns for Hutton Cranswick to see if the Sproxton family is there in 1641-42. The PRs only go back to the late 1650s. There are three Sproxton males baptizing children in the second quarter of the 1700s - Richard (my ancestor), Isaac and John. I need to keep reading the film to find all the Sproxton entries.

As well on the tape are the PRs for the villages of Skerne, Watton, Beswick, Christ Church - Bridlington Quay, and Burton-Agnes. All of these also interest me so I can see that I shall be quite busy with this tape until it has to go back 19 September 2009. I was unable to find baptisms for Grace Wiles, Margaret Garrit or Anne Husey who are my 6x, 7x and 8x great grandmothers respectively. I was feeling a bit impatient for Driffield PRs to come but I think that the wait will be quite advantageous to let me completely finish this microfilm first. The Bradfield PRs I will look at again before I send it back but there isn't anything in it that can help me to discover if this is my Nathanael Lambden.

Bradfield BRK and Hutton Cranswick ERY

We spent the morning at the Family History Centre reviewing the microfilms that we ordered in. I ordered in Bradfield BRK, Hutton Cranswick ERY and Driffield ERY. Unfortunately only 2 of my 3 films arrived: Bradfield and Hutton Cranswick. The Driffield leads into the Hutton Cranswick but not a problem since I have all the Sproxton information already that leads me back into Hutton Cranswick.

I started with Bradfield Parish Registers and I am looking for more information on Nathanael Lambden. Unfortunately this Parish Register didn't help me very much except to verify the records on the IGI. I can still not say that this Nathanael Lambden is my Nathanael Lambden who is at Andover at least from 1751 on when Nathaniel, eldest child, was baptized. I was hoping that Nathanael may have married Sarah at Bradfield as they did not marry at Andover. I have not yet found a burial registration for Nathanael although Sarah was buried at Andover 8 Nov 1797. I need to check and see if that was as a wife or as a widow or no mention of either. I have forgotten now! Definitely the wife of John Lambden (mother of the Nathanael Lambden baptized at Bradfield) is not Joan Caruthue. I am still working on her name but it comes closer to: _aruttens. I suspect the first letter is a B but that doesn't match any of the names closeby either. The Lambden family is not a common name at Bradfield although I want to review all the images that I made today to have a good look.

I have completed that survey of the 40 scans at varying years and I would say that the Lambden family did not live at Bradfield for an extended time period. I know by the Poor Rate that John Lamden held leases there (he paid his poor tax) in 1726. That is the only record that I have found thus far on the microfilm. Interestingly Mary Lambden (likely sister of Nathanael) was married in 1756 at Bradfield but she did not sign the register although Nathanael signed the register when his daughter Elizabeth married in 1789 (but Elizabeth did not sign, she made her mark). Perhaps this family only educated males!

I can not do very much more with this microfilm. I needed to at least look at it. Probably I should try to discover the other parishes where the Lambden family lived (known to be at Reading) in the area. That might be helpful. Also I will look at the St Mary Borne Parish Registers as the Lambden family were there in Hampshire as well.

Continuing to review the remainder of the images that I captured and this time of the Hutton Cranswick Parish Register. I found Richard Sproxton's baptism in 1721 and verified it and also that of his father Richard Sproxton 2 Oct 1691 also at Hutton Cranswick and Richard married Grace Wiles 19 Jan 1720. This Richard's parents were: Richard Sproxton and Margaret Garrit who married 30 Sep 1688 at Hutton Cranswick. I did manage to find this Richard's baptism 2 Aug 1663 at Hutton Cranswick with father John Sproxton. I need to review the register as it is a little blurry in my picture and there is more information in the line that just the name John Sproxton. I will see if there is a marriage for John Sproxton in this register. I would like to find Grace Wiles' baptism (Wiles is a fairly common name at Hutton Cranswick) and also a baptism for Margaret Garrit. That will be one of my assignments for tomorrow. If the Driffield Parish Register has arrived that would be very handy as I have quite a few items to look up in it.

I have two wills/documents to transcribe for a fellow Hinxman researcher. I will begin them in a couple of days. I like to read them over a bit before I start just to get my eyes used to the writing of this individual. Solving the Hinxman family may help to give me more proof for my Blake line. It is a slow process to really augment the "meat on the bones" of our ancestors.

Siderfin - 3

Today, I extracted all the BMD information from the parishes around Selworthy for the Siderfin family. I had done this earlier and have a copy of the excel file on my website but I had missed a few of the parishes. Transcriptions on line on a site hosted by Martin Southwood have become available and I extracted from some of the parishes that I do not have. In particular I now have the entries for the Augustine Siderfin/Mary Davis family which is my direct line. I am colour coding my new chart with red for entries I have not yet located and green for verified and identified entries.

I also prepared my bio and abstract for my talk in September and sent that off for enclosure in the conference booklet. This will be my last lecture as I find it takes too much of my time to do these talks and there are plenty of people out there now who talk about DNA. I will continue doing my research studies and eventually they will be published. We are slowly working away on these projects.

I booked my microfilm readers for my film at the Family History Centre for my husband and myself on Tuesday. I suspect three hours a day will work very well for both of us. I will photograph the pages so that I can work away at them in my own time. Hutton Cranswick proves to be interesting for the Carling line as well so will collect that information at the same time. I do hope to learn more about the Bradfield Berkshire Lambden family. If this is my Nathanael son of John Lambden and Joan Caruthue he has five siblings: Mary, Sarah, John, Benjamin and Joseph. Interestingly Nathanael and Sarah's children are: Nathaniel, John, William and Elizabeth and all baptized at Andover. whereas Nathanael and his siblings were all baptized at Bradfield, Berkshire.

Tomorrow I will continue searching out the Bradfield, Hutton Cranswick and Driffield families in order to be ready to read the microfilms on Tuesday.

I bought my shoes for our daughter's wedding. Lovely black leather wedge shoes with a strap. They will be most comfortable and they look quite classical for a wedding. Just need the dress now.

Long Island and return

We just arrived back from Long Island having successfully seen all of our daughter's belongings loaded onto a North American Van Lines truck headed for her new teaching post. She doesn't have a lot so will not be too enormous a job to unpack it all when she heads for her new position. We had packed about 80% of her belongings before we left in mid-May. However, it still took a full day of packing to complete the preparation. It was very warm there and working (even with the airconditioning running full blast) was very difficult. We went to Jones Beach in the evening and had a lovely walk along the ocean beach.

The traffic going down to Long Island was really heavy last Sunday and we waited two hours to cross on the George Washington Bridge to Manhattan Island with a much shorter wait to take Throgs Neck Bridge onto Long Island. The four days passed quickly with last minute packing and a trip into New York City to see the Museum of Art - always a really pleasant visit although we were noticing that it was similar to ROM although on a larger scale. Last ride back on the Long Island Railway for a while I expect. I do not think we would have ever spent so much time in New York City or on Long Island if she hadn't been there. It gave my husband the opportunity to really look at all the places where his ancestors lived - he has over 70 early Dutch/French/Belgium ancestors who lived at New Amsterdam (now New York) and about the same number or perhaps slightly greater who lived on Long Island. We have now visited a number of the areas where his ancestors lived in the 1600s (up to the 1800s) including Block Island, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Dutchess County, New York. We will need to have a longer look at New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Once I feel like being in a car for longer than 20 minutes!

No research at all. I completed reading the book :The Tribes of Britain: Who are we? and where do we come from? by David Miles. A really interesting read although very heavy. Length is 500 pages but that wasn't the weight. Rather the detail that he provides necessitates one spending quite a bit of time either remembering the history of the time period or looking up all of his references.

Our films have arrived at the Family History Library - I ordered Hutton Cranswick (Yorkshire), Driffield (Yorkshire) and Bradfield (Berkshire). My husband ordered two Mecklenberg films (Brohm and Staven). We anticipate spending at least two weeks going 4 or 5 times in the week to work our way through the films. I am looking for the Sproxton and Wiles family at Hutton Cranswick and the Harland, Cooper, Sproxton, and Wilkinson families at Great Driffield. At Bradfield I am hoping to learn more about Nathanael Lambden who was baptized there in 1724 - the son of John Lambden and Joan Caruthue. I have not been able to find the marriage of Nathanael Lambden and Sarah around 1851.

My husband is looking at his Schulz, Passow and Naumann families. We already know that the Schulz and Passow families are in the Brohm register but would like to have a longer look at this parish. We recently discovered Staven as a possible place of baptism for his great grandmother Rachel Naumann.

Andover Parish Register 2 - 3

Carried on with the Andover Parish Registers again today and completed to the end of 1639 which is 2903 baptisms in total now in my excel file. A couple of new Blake entries and one surprising one which was a daughter (unnamed) to old Mr. William Blake. I shall need to work that one out. Again a couple of new names but still the older names continue in the register. This Register stops at 1642 and I will then do the marriages from 1634 to 1642 and following that the baptisms from 1634 to 1641. Then I can begin Register 3 which runs from 1642 to 1684. This will be a most interesting register and hopefully in better shape than the second register. I do know that ahead of me are pages and pages of neatly written baptismal, marriage and burial records. That will inspire me to keep going!

We went for a 10.5 km bike ride this morning and it was quite fresh. The parkway is closed for the next six weeks so we can partake of that great roadway every day of the week instead of just Sunday mornings when it is closed to traffic. I miss bike riding in the winter. It is very relaxing just to stroll along the Ottawa River on our bikes feeling the wind and enjoying the greenbelt.

I added Hampshire to my groups at Genealogy Wise. I need to update with information on Hampshire. I will advertise the DNA study at FT DNA as well. Acquiring people with a paper trail back to Hampshire is quite difficult actually. I only have six people of the 21 who are in the study. I asked to set up a Midlands and Birmingham mtDNA study and that one is still in the thought process. We will see if they are willing to set up this one. I think it will be very interesting as a study because Birmingham is like a crossroads with people coming there from the counties around Birmingham (Midlands); coming from Wales to Birmingham to work in the cotton factories; coming to Ireland to escape the famine and coming from Scotland to work in the factories. We should find an enormous variety of mtDNA and I will ask for a paper trail back to Birmingham and the Midlands. I have to decide which counties to include although it could be that that terminology is already decided for me.

This evening we went and ordered films from the Family History Centre - I ordered Hutton Cranswick and Driffield Yorkshire and Bradfield Berkshire. My husband ordered Staven, Schonbeck and Brohm Mecklenberg Germany. We are trying to put together his Schultz family for the next reunion in September. We have the details now for his great grandfather Schultz and want to acquire the details for his great grandmother Neumann. It has been quite a chase looking for their details.

Tomorrow I will work on the Andover Parish Registers. I think I will concentrate on them for a few days and then pick up the Timberscombe Transcripts again. I want to complete the Timberscombe by the end of August. The Andover will be a much longer proposition as I have 100 fiche for Andover up to the early 1900s.

Lambden Research

I had planned to look at the St Mary Bourne parish registers when we were at Salt Lake City but I had to leave out three different sets of research that I had scheduled in order to complete the rest of my research aims. Also, I was still ambivalent about my Lambden family having been at St Mary Bourne. There simply isn't a Nathanael Lambden there on the IGI.

Traveling in Hampshire in the spring, I realized that the distance between Thatcham or Bradfield Berkshire and Andover Hampshire was really very small and very negotiable since there are several main byways that would have been usable. I joined the Berkshire list the other day and since then I have received a couple of interesting thoughts from members of the list including the location of Lambden Farm near Bradfield. Today I checked the 1841 census for Bradfield but there isn't a Lambden family there in 1841. The IGI also shows that the Lambden family was no longer at Bradfield in the 1800s.

The interesting item is the baptism of a Nathanael (my spelling for Nathanael from Elizabeth's wedding registration which he signed (his son's name was spelled Nathaniel)) Lambden 26 Jul 1724 at Bradfield son of John Lambden and Joan Caruthue. I wonder about the name Caruthue and suspect it is perhaps a transcription error. But I am unable to purchase the original fiche for the parish registers. However, I could order the film and perhaps I will do that. John and Joan were married at Bradfield Oct 1721. Nathanael appears to be their first child and other children born to them include: Sarah baptized 17 Sep 1727, Mary baptized 22 Mar 1729, John baptized 1 Apr 1733, Benjamin baptized 20 Jun 1736, and Joseph baptized 1 Apr 1739.

Nathanael is married to Sarah by 1751 but the place and Sarah's parents are unknown. Pursuing the idea that he trained as a wheelwright in Berkshire might lead me to an answer as my grandfather thought he was a wheelwright. He remembered hearing about his great grandmother that lived to be 96 years old (she only died in 1862). Sam was born in 1875 so she was probably still being talked about especially as she was the mother of his paternal grandmother who lived right next door to Sam all of his life until she died in 1893.

Watched an issue of Cranford which I quite enjoyed and then slept about two hours this afternoon. I was very tired after having company yesterday although I enjoyed hearing about Europe as that is our next trip.

Tomorrow I shall get back to my Devon fiche to look at Landkey, Merton, Molland, and Rose Ash. I will build up an excel file from these fiche to make it easier to follow the family lines as these villages are all fairly small and, except for Molland, I have ancestors from before 1700 in the villages. I would like to fill in my family details and move on from the Pincombe family for awhile although I also want to get back to entering into my Pincombe one name study file in Legacy the original one name study that I inherited from the earlier researchers.