Henri St Jean married Ernestine Chénier 9 Jan 1905 at Angers, Québec.
M 1 Henri St Jean et Ernestine Chénier
Le neuf janvier mil neuf _____ cinq après
la publication de deux bans de mariage
fait au _____un messe paroisialle
entre Henri St Jean ______ fils majeur
de feu J B St Jean et octavie l
avigne de cette paroisse l'un part et
ernestine Chénier fille mineur de
feu J B Chénier et de anna Racine
également de cette paroisse l'autre part
..... (will finish later)
B 45 Henri Saint Jean
__________
le cinq Décembre, mil huit cent
quatre vingt quatre nous soussi
gné Curé de cette paroisse avons
baptisé Henry, né le quatre de cou
rant, fils légitime de Jean Baptiste
Saint Jean Chanctier et de Octavie
Lavigne de cette paroisse ____ par
rain et marrain Augustin Lavi
gne, commercant et Elisabeth
Bél____, _____ de la paroisse
de Sainte Scholastique, qui aussi
le que le pè ont déclaré ne savoir si
gner. Lecture faite
A Denorme Curé
The Marriage registration being difficult to read I have added in the baptism to verify the parents of Henri St Jean as being Jean Baptiste St Jean and Octavie Lavigne who were themselves married 8 Nov 1875 at Ste Scholastique (Deux Montagnes).
M 29 J B Lagarde et Octavie Lavigne
le huit novembre mil huit cent soxiante quinze
après la publication de trois bans au prone de
messes parossials _____ et trois dimanches
conséctifs, entre Jean Baptiste Lagarde
journalier fils majeur d'Antoine Lagarde
cordonnier et d'Adéline Legault de cette
paroisse d'un part; et Octavie Lavigne
fille mineure d'Hyacinth Lavigne et de ____
Josepht Potvin, aussi de cette paroisse d'autre
part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empe
chement et nous curé soussigné avons reçu
leur mutuel consentement la mariage ____
_______ de leurs parents, et leur avons
donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence
d'Antoine Lagarde, père de l'époux et d'
Hyacinthe Lavigne, père de l'épouse, l'époux
ont déclare ne savoir signer ainsique l'épouse
_____ ai signé
Octavie Lavigne [signed]
P T _ssé Pretre
The parents of Jean Baptiste Lagarde thus being named as Antoine Lagarde and Adéline Legault who were themselves married 24 Aug 1847 at Ste Scholastique. Since the surname of Jean Baptiste has appeared as St Jean on the marriage of his son but Lagarde in his own marriage I have also pulled up the baptism for Jean Baptiste Lagarde to see if I can show that both names are used by Jean Baptiste.
B 142 J. B. Lagarde
Le vingt sept Aout mil huit cinquante quatre nous pretre
soussigné avons baptisé Jean Baptiste né hier de légitime
mariage d'Antoine Lagarde et de Adéline Legault de cette
paroisse Parrain François B_____, maraine Félicitie Lalande
qui _____ n'ont put signer
V Plongue Pretre
Neither the marriage nor the baptism includes the name St Jean but the census of 1891 lists Antoine St Jean, 66 years of age married to Adéline and son Baptiste 36 years of age and they are living at Ste Scholastique (Jean Baptiste has returned to his parents at census time - perhaps they were ill as a number of older family members are there). This may account for the surname St Jean as it was used by Jean Baptiste. The 1871 census lists Antoine Lagarde age 45 and wife Adéline aged 42 years living at Ste Scholastique and Jean Baptiste was 16 years of age. The children listed are similar to the children listed in 1891 with some of the older ones missing and new younger children. I need to pull up the remainder of the census to see if I can pinpoint the time when the name change occurred. Tanguay lists St Jean as one of the dit names for Lagarde. Obviously this is the same family, I located the 1881 census and Antoine has been listed as Lagarde Lagarde with wife Adéline and the children match the 1871 census. Looking at the records has shown several entries with Lagarde dit St Jean as mentioned in Tanguay. I am satisfied that this is the same family. As well when I found the marriage of Antoine Lagarde and Adéline Legault Antoine was a widower with his first wife being Zoé Deneau and they were married 2 Feb 1745 at St Augustine with the marriage lines recording that "Antoine Lagarde dit St Jean fils mineur de défunt Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St Jean vivant cultivateur et de Marguerite Proteau de la paroisse de St Scholastique" thus solving this small riddle.
M 21 Antoine Lagarde et Adeline Legault
Le vingt quatre aout mil huit cent quar
ante sept après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite sans opposition _____
_____ entre Antoine Lagarde
cordonier de cette paroisse veuf de
Zoé Deneau [fils mineur de défunt Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St Jean et Marguerite Proteau] d'une part et Adeline Legault
domiciliée en cette paroisse fille mineure de
Jean Baptiste Legault cultivateur et de
Felicite Lalande d'autre part, ne s'étant
découvert aucun empechement au dit ma
riage et les parens de l'époux ayant consente
nous pretre curé soussigné avons reç leur mu
tuel consentement ____ presence de
Jean Baptiste Lagarde frère de l'époux, Edou
ard Lagarde aussi son frère, de Jean Baptiste
Legault, père de l'épouse, Jean Baptiste __
____ et de plusieurs autres parents et amis
qu'ainsique les époux n'ont pu signer
F Bouin Pretre
The parents of Antoine Lagarde dit St Jean being thus identified as Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St Jean and Marguerite Proteau who were themselves married 15 Oct 1810 at St Eustache.
M 27 J B Lagarde et Marg: Proteau
Le quinze d'octobre mil huit cent dix après la publication de
trois bans de mariage faite au prone des messes paroissiales
trois dérniere dimanches consecutifs entre jean baptiste la
garde fils majeur d'antoine lagarde et de marguerite
langlois ses pere et mere cultivateur en cette paroisse d'une part
et marguerite proteau fille mineure de pierre proteau
cultivateur et de defunte charlotte renault de cette paroisse
d'autre part ne s'étant decouvert aucun empechement au
dit mariage nous soussigné curé de cette paroisse leur avons
donné la bénédiction nuptiale au la forme proscrite par
notre mere la sainte eglise après avoir reçu leur mutuel consente
ment du mariage de l'agrement et au père ____
____ Beaupere antoine lagarde frère Louise
Villeneuve cousin J B Lagarde cousin de l'époux et
de pierre proteau pere louis proteau frere
[text missing]
The parents of Jean Baptiste Lagarde thus being identified as Antoine Lagarde and Marguerite Langlois who were themselves married 21 Oct 1783 at St Eustache.
Mge d'Antoine Lagarde et Mgte Langlois
Le vingt et un octobre mil sept cent quatre vingt trois après
la publication du trois bans de mariage faite au prone de nos
messes paroissiales par trois dimanches consecutifs, pareille publi
cation faite - St Geneviève ________ par les _____
______ avec de sa note paroisse, entre Antoine
Lagarde fils d'Antoine Lagarde et de Marie Elisabeth Madoue
ses pere et mere de St Geneviève d'une part; et marguerite
Langlois fille de michel Langlois et de Geneviève Clément ses
pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part,______
soit découvert aucun empechement au dit mariage, nous pretre
soussigné avons reçu leur mutuel consentement et leur
avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale, suivant les forme
proscrite par notre mere la sainte egilse romaine
_____ d'Antoine Lagarde pere de l'époux
de Tous___Mondeux son oncle de Francois Mondoux
son cousin, de Jean _____ grand pere
de l'epouse, de Jean Baptiste Langlois son frere, de Thomas deloge
et Testre Grouse ses oncles et des plusieurs autres parens et
amis qui ont ainsi que les époux déclaré ne savoir signer
Penaule Pretre
The parents of Antoine Lagarde being thus identified as Antoine Lagarde and Marie Elisabeth Madoue/Madoux who were themselves married 23 Jan 1759 at St François du Lac, Yamaska. This couple is identified in Tanguay with the parents of Antoine being named as Jean Baptiste Lagarde and Marguerite Martin who wee married 11 Aug 1733 at Montréal. Jean Baptiste Lagarde was born in France and so the emigrant ancestor of this line and Generation 1.
Antoine Lagarde married to Marie Elisabeth Madoue is Generation 2.
Antoine Lagarde married to Marguerite Langlois is Generation 3.
Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St Jean married to Marguerite Proteau is Generation 4.
Antoine Lagarde dit St Jean married to Adéline Legault is Generation 5.
Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St Jean married to Octavie Lavigne is Generation 6.
Henri St Jean married to Ernestine Chénier is Generation 7. The daughter of this couple is Generation 8.
Next research day I will continue to extract documents for this family line.
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Sunday, May 22, 2011
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
Backing up material
I decided to back up my files yesterday and was somewhat surprised to discover that I have, in the last couple of weeks of researching our son-in-law's family downloaded 4 GB of images. Certainly my file system has greatly enlarged with 84 sub-folders as compared to just eight sub-folders a couple of weeks ago. Every folder has a number of images amounting in total to 4.44 GB. I haven't reached a point where I have any text documents in any of these folders - still gathering information from ancestry.
I have a couple of lines that elude me and I expect it will be a lot of parish register reading to find the items. I will go to Library and Archives Canada one of these days to have a look at the Family Histories that have been submitted to them. For the most part I have been working on virgin territory for many of his lines back into the late 1700s. At that point I am picking up work submitted to ancestry or world connect or family webpages that have assisted me. I continue to check out each reference but there is some really good work out there on French Canadian lines.
I also want to go to the Library at Ottawa University to check out their French Canadian historical material. I am still very new to French Canadian Research and do not know all the records available to me to work on his lines. He has many many marriages in Quebec City and Montreal in the mid 1600s. He has many many soldiers in his lines. The latest I discovered the other day was Féréole Doutre who arrived in the later part of the 1750s probably in the troop increase allotment due to the Seven Years War with England in which Québec was ultimately signed over to the English in exchange for colonies in the West Indes.
Féréole married Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie 28 Feb 1775 at Terrebonne. Finding Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie proved to be a challenge but fortunately the priest recorded the parents of both in the marriage lines.
Parents of Féréole Doutre were Joseph D'Outre and Francisca Sobraques married in France.
Parents of Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie were Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard (and this is the first record of the Ménard family in this family grouping). Jean Baptiste and Marie-Anne married 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille, Boucherville.
On the marriage registration of Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard the priest recorded the parents of this couple and it is here that the names switched (i.e. Despatie dit Forgette).
Parents of Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette were Jean Baptiste Forgette and Jeanne Beaudouin. Jean Baptiste and Jeanne married 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny.
Again I was able to extract the names of their parents from the Parish Register.
Parents of Jean Baptiste Forgette were Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie and Marie Madeleine Martin. Nicolas and Marie Madeleine married 6 Feb 1653 at Québec City and their parents were recorded in the Parish Register.
Parents of Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie were Paul Forgette and Nicole Chevalier of Alençon France.
Parents of Marie Madeleine Martin were Abraham Martin and Marguerite Langlois who were also married in France.
This repeats some of my post of the other day but I wanted to go through it all again and I find that easier to do on my blog so that I do not lose any of the details that I have collected. I work on so many lines it is easy to misplace details if I am away from one particular line for a few days or weeks. That was my reason to start blogging although the last couple of months I have blogged less frequently, I will likely go back to my daily blog once again.
Looking at the parents of Jeanne Beaudouin who had married Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny, the priest listed them as Jean Baudouyn and Charlotte Chauvin (born 5 Apr 1651 Montréal) and they married 27 Nov 1663 at Notre-Dame Montréal.
Parents of Jean Baudouyn were Jean Baudouyn and Jeanne Berthet.
Parents of Charlotte Chauvin were Michel Chauvain and Anne Archambault who had married 27 Jul 1647 at Notre-Dame, Québec. The priest had listed the names of their parents in France.
Michel Chauvain's parents were Gabriel Chauvain and Marie Arouard.
Anne Archambault's parents were Jacques Archambault and Françoise Toros.
Going back now to Marie-Anne Ménard who had married Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille Boucherville, the priest listed her parents on the marriage lines.
Parents of Marie-Anne Ménard were Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine and Marie Anne Février who married 12 Dec 1691 at Boucherville. The parents of this couple were listed on the marriage lines.
Parents of Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine were Jacques Ménard dit Lafontaine and Catherine Fovether (sp).
Parents of Marie Anne Février were Kristoffe Février and Marie Martin. I found the second marriage of Kristoffe a couple of years after the birth of Marie Anne Février 22 Jun 1676 at Boucherville. I have not yet found his first marriage with Marie Martin. This is the second Martin in this time frame Marie Madeleine Martin married Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie 6 Feb 1653 at Québec.
The Forgette family had eluded me for some time until I noticed the Despatie dit name and then I was able to quickly move back. I may attempt a look at the French records to see if I am able to learn anything about Joseph Doutre and his wife Francisca Sobraques parents of Féréole Doutre who arrived in New France towards the end of the 1750s as a soldier. He died 29 Mar 1824 at the Hopital général des Soeurs Grises in Montréal.
Again I am looking at the Olivier Gagnon line. He married Josephte Doutre (grand daughter of Féréole Doutre) 26 Jun 1844 at Saint-Luc, Curran, Prescott, Ontario. His death registration states that he was born at Berthier in 1811. I decided to have a look at the registers and found an Olivier Genton baptized there 17 May 1810 with parents Joseph Genton and Elizabeth Moreau. However Gagnon is quite aways from Genton I rather think. I shall have to continue checking. I also noted that in his burial lines the priest has mentioned that he was almost 90 years old when he was buried 13 Mar 1900. This would make the 17 May 1810 date quite interesting. But why would he change his name from Genton to Gagnon. Was it an enumerator error? Would Olivier had spoken with an accent that made Genton sound like Gagnon? Considering they would have been English speaking enumerators in the Plantagenent area this could be a possibility. However, I will keep it on the backburner whilst I hunt out other possibilities. Finding their marriage lines is a high priority since the priest would likely have been French speaking and would have spelled his surname correctly.
I have a couple of lines that elude me and I expect it will be a lot of parish register reading to find the items. I will go to Library and Archives Canada one of these days to have a look at the Family Histories that have been submitted to them. For the most part I have been working on virgin territory for many of his lines back into the late 1700s. At that point I am picking up work submitted to ancestry or world connect or family webpages that have assisted me. I continue to check out each reference but there is some really good work out there on French Canadian lines.
I also want to go to the Library at Ottawa University to check out their French Canadian historical material. I am still very new to French Canadian Research and do not know all the records available to me to work on his lines. He has many many marriages in Quebec City and Montreal in the mid 1600s. He has many many soldiers in his lines. The latest I discovered the other day was Féréole Doutre who arrived in the later part of the 1750s probably in the troop increase allotment due to the Seven Years War with England in which Québec was ultimately signed over to the English in exchange for colonies in the West Indes.
Féréole married Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie 28 Feb 1775 at Terrebonne. Finding Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie proved to be a challenge but fortunately the priest recorded the parents of both in the marriage lines.
Parents of Féréole Doutre were Joseph D'Outre and Francisca Sobraques married in France.
Parents of Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie were Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard (and this is the first record of the Ménard family in this family grouping). Jean Baptiste and Marie-Anne married 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille, Boucherville.
On the marriage registration of Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard the priest recorded the parents of this couple and it is here that the names switched (i.e. Despatie dit Forgette).
Parents of Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette were Jean Baptiste Forgette and Jeanne Beaudouin. Jean Baptiste and Jeanne married 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny.
Again I was able to extract the names of their parents from the Parish Register.
Parents of Jean Baptiste Forgette were Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie and Marie Madeleine Martin. Nicolas and Marie Madeleine married 6 Feb 1653 at Québec City and their parents were recorded in the Parish Register.
Parents of Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie were Paul Forgette and Nicole Chevalier of Alençon France.
Parents of Marie Madeleine Martin were Abraham Martin and Marguerite Langlois who were also married in France.
This repeats some of my post of the other day but I wanted to go through it all again and I find that easier to do on my blog so that I do not lose any of the details that I have collected. I work on so many lines it is easy to misplace details if I am away from one particular line for a few days or weeks. That was my reason to start blogging although the last couple of months I have blogged less frequently, I will likely go back to my daily blog once again.
Looking at the parents of Jeanne Beaudouin who had married Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny, the priest listed them as Jean Baudouyn and Charlotte Chauvin (born 5 Apr 1651 Montréal) and they married 27 Nov 1663 at Notre-Dame Montréal.
Parents of Jean Baudouyn were Jean Baudouyn and Jeanne Berthet.
Parents of Charlotte Chauvin were Michel Chauvain and Anne Archambault who had married 27 Jul 1647 at Notre-Dame, Québec. The priest had listed the names of their parents in France.
Michel Chauvain's parents were Gabriel Chauvain and Marie Arouard.
Anne Archambault's parents were Jacques Archambault and Françoise Toros.
Going back now to Marie-Anne Ménard who had married Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille Boucherville, the priest listed her parents on the marriage lines.
Parents of Marie-Anne Ménard were Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine and Marie Anne Février who married 12 Dec 1691 at Boucherville. The parents of this couple were listed on the marriage lines.
Parents of Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine were Jacques Ménard dit Lafontaine and Catherine Fovether (sp).
Parents of Marie Anne Février were Kristoffe Février and Marie Martin. I found the second marriage of Kristoffe a couple of years after the birth of Marie Anne Février 22 Jun 1676 at Boucherville. I have not yet found his first marriage with Marie Martin. This is the second Martin in this time frame Marie Madeleine Martin married Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie 6 Feb 1653 at Québec.
The Forgette family had eluded me for some time until I noticed the Despatie dit name and then I was able to quickly move back. I may attempt a look at the French records to see if I am able to learn anything about Joseph Doutre and his wife Francisca Sobraques parents of Féréole Doutre who arrived in New France towards the end of the 1750s as a soldier. He died 29 Mar 1824 at the Hopital général des Soeurs Grises in Montréal.
Again I am looking at the Olivier Gagnon line. He married Josephte Doutre (grand daughter of Féréole Doutre) 26 Jun 1844 at Saint-Luc, Curran, Prescott, Ontario. His death registration states that he was born at Berthier in 1811. I decided to have a look at the registers and found an Olivier Genton baptized there 17 May 1810 with parents Joseph Genton and Elizabeth Moreau. However Gagnon is quite aways from Genton I rather think. I shall have to continue checking. I also noted that in his burial lines the priest has mentioned that he was almost 90 years old when he was buried 13 Mar 1900. This would make the 17 May 1810 date quite interesting. But why would he change his name from Genton to Gagnon. Was it an enumerator error? Would Olivier had spoken with an accent that made Genton sound like Gagnon? Considering they would have been English speaking enumerators in the Plantagenent area this could be a possibility. However, I will keep it on the backburner whilst I hunt out other possibilities. Finding their marriage lines is a high priority since the priest would likely have been French speaking and would have spelled his surname correctly.
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