Genealogical tree in process

 Finally down to work on the genealogical tree for Blake. It will begin with Robert Blake and he has two sons Richard and Thomas. Both of these men leave their wills and Richard leaves his just a couple of months after his father passed away with Thomas' will (younger brother) being nearly twenty years later. Jone Blake (widow) does not name her husband but the wills of Richard and Jone do give one the impression that they were husband and wife. Jone names her children as Robert, Nicholas and Elizabeth. Elizabeth is married to (unknown) Mylne although in her father's will she is not married. Richard naming his eldest son Robert  in his will is helpful as well as in that his father was also Robert who left his will dated 14 Dec 1521. I have quite a bit on these lines which I will now pull into my legacy file. Charlou Dolan worked on the family of Robert (son of Richard) and I have all of her work but the dates are just approximate. I have more details now from other records. But I will credit her with her work in the book when I write it up. 

I need to do a little more work on the Latin in Robert's will just to clarify a couple of small points.   That was lucky learning all that Latin but I need to get back to the Mango Languages Latin and will be doing that soon just to keep it fresh. 

Up early, mind is racing. It happens and I just have to work through it and then sleep for a while to keep the brain rested. So doing some short projects just to wear me out once again and back to sleep for a couple of hours. 

This was a very busy summer and really never stopped from early May right to the end of August nearly. I am looking forward to this fairly quiet September and then on into the Fall. The one hour a day on the yard will be good exercise and lots of fresh air. Plus the yard will look better. The plants that Edward guarded are still there to a certain extent but some are lost and that is sort of sad but it happens in nature all the time so must not dwell on it. Something always replaces it and sometimes that is just as beautiful as what was there and less fragile generally. 

I also need to get to work on the Kipp Newsletters as I promised them to Chilliwack Archives. I need to add a Creative Commons License to them and I did write the final one yesterday and put it up online. I remembered to put that on Edward's blog as well. I will try to send the email again today to the members of the yDNA Kip-Kipp study. I may have been tired putting it in and missed something.  There is a little bit of work to do there as there are about a dozen newsletters that I wrote. Edward did not want to do that; he preferred just writing anything in his blog but I decided it would be quicker for me to add everything from the blog into newsletters and make it available to the entire study group. That does appear to be going to work well as they would like the Newsletters at the Archives and then I can just take them down. 

It is possible that my older daughter when she retires sometime into the future and it will probably be quite a while as she loves working especially teaching and helping students doing their masters and PhD but she also teaches undergraduate as well during each calendar year. She has several research projects ongoing with past students who now have their own academic positions in the United States and around the world. But I digress at some point into the future I suspect my eldest daughter will take over the DNA Studies so I am ensuring that I have complete files so that she doesn't have to start it all over again. I do have to put together Edward's files as I just gave him sort of final information on his different lines as especially Ancestry proved all of his lines to be accurate which was all he wanted. But he also tested at all the different companies and so there is a lot of data but never put into databases or saved as single name files for each match. So a lot of work to do there and I am in the thought process on how to proceed getting that done. I will use the same principle as I used with my own. When he saw my phasing of my grandparents he wanted that as well and did ask his one niece. The only difference really is I have a set of five siblings and for Edward I have himself and many many cousins from 1st cousin to third  in large numbers and even larger numbers of more than third cousins. I believe I can phase his grandparents with all this data so we will see how that goes. I wish I had the DNA of his nieces and perhaps one day hard to say. Both of them would be great as they are not a great deal alike and so would cover both sides of the family likely. The older one is very like Edward in her younger pictures (Edward's first cousins (six males I think, I have forgotten as I do not know his family only met them rarely) look alike in many ways) and the younger one very like her father Allen in her younger pictures although both look like their mother as well but 1/2 is great. The people that I most knew in Princeton were friends of his father (and mother) that filled Edward in on lots of interesting stories about his father. But we only visited with them a few times but wonderful conversations. They were primarily people that Edward worked for when he was young; he first started to work in tobacco when he was just 12/13 years of age. Too young really; not good to be around all those chemicals when you are growing without taking good precautions such as they do now a days. 

Back to bed. Solitaire puzzles when I wake up again as I am getting sleepy.  

Tiredness is creeping in once again.  

 

Reflecting on Edward

 When I met Edward one of the first items that he mentioned to me was his quest to learn more about his father. Edward's father was Lorne Bernice Kipp and he was the son of William Henry Kipp who was the son of Benjamin Kipp who was the son of Isaac Kipp. Edward knew all of that from his uncle Howard Leslie Kipp. He also knew that his father had been treasurer at Princeton United Church and had sung in the Choir if I remember all of that correctly. Lorne was a farmer and his farm was just across Highway 2 facing the Village of Princeton, Ontario. So Edward had some ambitions in life including going to university and studying Chemistry and going all the way to do his PhD, he wanted to have a family and he wanted to be treasurer at the United Church and to sing in the Choir. He achieved all of those desires in his life and was quite content. The genealogy took him down paths that were appealing to me - we did a lot of traveling in the United States and Canada searching for his Kipp particularly ancestral line and our first trip was to Northeast Town in Dutchess County. We knew that Isaac and his wife Hannah (Mead) Kipp had come to Canada in October 1800 as settlers looking for land and over time he discovered a connection with Thomas Hornor that he hoped might give him more insight into the Kip family of New York/New Jersey. After yDNA testing he knew that his Kipp line was descendant of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip of New Amsterdam. The exact name of those ancestors eluded him but he collected as much information as he could with the thought that others would utilize it and find that name connection. It was a difficult time 1 Nov 1764 when Isaac was born/baptized. The Family Bible did not specify whether this was baptism or birth although was on the birth page. 

Jobs were difficult to come by when Edward finished his PhD in 1970 and he went on to do a PostDoc in Chemical Engineering but still jobs had been quickly taken up by American draft dodgers coming to Canadian Universities in particular so the new graduates had to settle for teaching High School or industry if they could find it or do another degree which Edward did; he finished his Masters in Library Science in 1975 and that did get him a job at the National Research Council in Ottawa. He was thrilled when his eldest did her PhD in Library and Information Science and from his Alma Mater. He was equally thrilled when his youngest did her Masters in Biology and then an MD. 

He had planned so many trips still to do but COVID came into our lives and changed so much around him. 

But we sat thinking about our 54 years of marriage and it was the anniversary of that which is just two days away that got us thinking. He was happy that all the things that he had talked about all those years ago had come to fruition. He had walked in his father's steps with his love of gardening, with his love of the United Church and following again his father's time as treasurer and in the choir, and his own ambition to do his PhD in Chemistry and be a scientist. A little earlier in the summer our eldest had brought him a List of Citations of his work that she had collected and it was a long list actually with a number in the period after he wrote his Thesis (his work was initial work in the field) and then a huge interest again in the early 1980s extending up into the 2000s. He was thrilled with the collection of citations. Edward was only two years old when his father died in a farming accident. His father had epilepsy and had been home schooled and then managed the farm for the family. He had a fall in the barn that was fatal as his head hit cement I understand from what Edward said. 

As our Anniversary comes once again I will make two donations I think with one to the Branch Library of the Ottawa Branch of Ontario Ancestors as usual (a group that he joined in the early 1980s when he went with Gordon Riddle, his cousin, to the first meeting he ever attended (I was not interested in going when we lived in the London area and that interest didn't come at this time in the Ottawa area either (it would take a while for me to take up the mantle of genealogy like 2003)). He loved the group and spent the next close to fourty years as part of it in so many ways (and he volunteered me for items he wanted done (I always think he was trying to keep me at home as the psychiatrist had told him I needed a lot of rest and quiet)). However all that volunteering involved my going out or people calling me on the telephone or having to call people on the telephone (his United Church, the OGS, Treasurer at Camp Bitobi and so many items except World Day of Prayer which I volunteered to do)! And I did go back to work as soon as I could actually although at home for over fifteen years for the bulk of that work and then back into the working world.  

The other donation I am contemplating picking up once again was his donation to his Alma Mater (and mine actually Western University was the University of Western Ontario). I shall investigate that as I would want to do that in his memory. 

I have continued most of the donations that he was doing along with the ones that I was doing. All societies need donations to organizations in order to provide that activity or need to continue being met as they are a social need for many many people. When money concentrates in one small group then life does not flow as equally or well as God meant it to.  

The commissioning of Joshua

 These chapters are very interesting in Numbers. Again women are mentioned as the only children of a line coming down from Joseph (Chapter 27) and the Lord has decreed that they should inherit their father's portion. God establishes the right heirs as sons and if no sons then daughters, and if no child then brothers and continuing back through the generations to establish the right heir. I never really understood burnt offerings before but the explanation in Chapter 28 is quite explicit and easily understood. These are pleasing offerings to God and in specific time frames, Sabbath offerings, monthly offerings, Passover offering, Festivals like the day of the first fruits. The idea of not working on the Sabbath at your occupations puzzled me as a child. For the burnt offerings it is mentioned that this is a pleasing odour to the Lord but not working is a holy convocation. A holy convocation is a sacred assembly or formal gathering of believers called together to worship God, for instruction or spiritual renewal. 

In the Christian world that I grew up in I was conflicted by this idea because people still did work and gradually it was defined as a needed service and so avoided conflicting with the holy convocation ideal. The Christian world has moved far away from that original concept of the holy convocation on the Sabbath (Chapter 28) (in the Christian world this is celebrated on Sunday for just the actual time of the service). I myself go to Church on Sunday with YouTube. I went through a period of time when I was nine and ten and found this idea of burnt offerings of animals that I saw on the farm and so many listed and I can see those reading now in Numbers. They were troublesome in my mind and I blocked out that idea of sacrificing animals and indeed refused to eat meat for a while. But hearing the stories of the First Nations and their thanks given to the animals which they ate was sort of a balm on that worrisome mind of mine. Moses is instructing the people of Israel because he knows he is not going into the Promised Land and must prepare them so that they continue to celebrate God as God has commanded. 

Packages mailed off to the Archives should arrive in the next week. The material that Edward carefully collected through the years can be useful to people researching the Kip/Kipp family name. He collected a lot of material in the United States where the Kip/Kipp families lived. Although I helped him to collect the material,  I did not absorb any of it particularly because I was not interested in genealogy but simply helping him with his collections. I do not know the Kipp families that he is related to and it just seemed practical to put it all in a repository where any of them can go and see it. At 80 my time is short ahead of me and I especially did not want to see any of it thrown away after all his work on it. 

Top floor cleaned yesterday and it is the main floor today. A huge amount of cardboard went out this week for the collection. We have replaced all of the drape rods and drapes in the house now pretty much. They were getting old and needed new ones. 

NATO will buy ten of the SAAB jets for reconnaissance which is good news as we had debated doing that as part of our fleet but really having them as NATO possessions is an advantage. Germany and France are very much moving to the forefront in NATO. France in particular is heavily armed and nuclear capable. The United Kingdom also increasing their military (they too are nuclear capable) and they too have an Arctic presence. I feel that NATO is progressing forward very quickly and in particular has command of the Arctic which is important as the ice melts. Canada will be part of that protection cover for the Arctic along with Norway, Sweden and Finland with Germany and France. The other countries in NATO are also committed but the heavy work will probably fall to the countries that neighbour on the Arctic plus France and Germany (and Denmark). We will hear at this meeting how much the United States will be involved I think as they too have an Arctic presence with Alaska. Greenland is also part of NATO and the protection plan but Greenland (protectorate of Denmark) has a very small population so need the support of the surrounding nations on the Arctic along with Denmark, Germany and France). I am sure we will hear quite a bit more on all of that. Russia continues to try and provoke NATO but NATO is a purely defensive organization. 

Russia still is living in the times of the 1800s with no concept of a world view that wants peace. I was pleased to see China say at the UN Security Meeting that it is time to wind down this war against Ukraine. Russia continues to murder the people of Ukraine and especially in Kyiv the capital. They are satanists. 

Probably not much work done today but time will tell.

Solitaire puzzles to do.  

 

 

Yes, the submarine purchase is moving forward

 Picking the proposal from German (and Norway as they also have the same subs) has a huge advantage for NATO and Canada. The crews of the three countries can train together and we are all part of NATO. We will be working together in the Arctic and having the same submarine is an enormous advantage. When I was a child Canada had the largest Navy of all the countries at the end of the Second World War and it continued thus for quite a while. London, Ontario was a military city with Wolsley Barracks being the home for the 1st and 2nd RCR and the 48th Highlanders. They were the largest employer in London when I was a child. We even had Sea Cadets along with Army and Air Force cadets for the young people looking towards being in the military or just for the training which is always excellent. 

Thank you Prime Minister Carney for pushing this ahead month after month. It has been such a long time coming as it was in the 1980s that proper expenditures were made for the military although there could have been more even back then. 

Also thankyou to Premier Ford and Premier Smith of Alberta for the announcement on the plans to have an Eastern oil Pipeline to Sarnia. It is really better than Thunder Bay and then by the St Lawrence Seaway as a pipeline is the safest and fastest way to move oil.  Oil refined once again in Sarnia after all these years is such a perfect idea. Probably it will be a bit before that happens but just talking about it is such a good start. 

Parcels mailed off to the Archives at Canada Post and just under $100 in total for the two boxes. Edward would be pleased that we remembered to do that. It took me a while to get it organized but I am back into that once again as the Allen box should go next week and then work on the Family photo binders (40 of them) down to six to eight and all of the pictures of Edward's nieces and their families will be removed, labeled and an index prepared as the girls were very young when we married and might not remember all of the events. 

Must get back to Chromosome 1 once again and see what I can come up with but busy right now on other things. In the winter I will have more time. 

 

Fourty years have passed in the wilderness

 A second census is taken as recorded in Numbers and the fourty years have passed and only Caleb and Joshua remain as recorded in the first census. Caleb and Joshua had been the spies sent out as two of the twelve members of the twelve tribes of Israel and they had properly recorded what they discovered. God said they would survive to enter into the Promised Land. Neither Moses nor Aaron will enter the Promised Land. I found this second census to be very interesting as daughters were mentioned as the heads of families within each of the tribes. The numbers of Israelis (descendants of Jacob whom God renamed Israel) is a very large number once again just as the first census was a large number. God continues to punish any turning away from Him. The Old Testament section of the Bible is so different from the New Testament. Rules are always needed but when the severity slows down the ability of Homo sapiens to survive in a hostile environment God saw the need for a change although I do not see yet the promise of a Messiah in all these writings God does find a way to alleviate His punishments so that the Israelis, His chosen people to let the world know that He was the Creator God and no one else, continue to survive and flourish. 

I am finding now that rereading the Bible was a path for me to follow at this time in order to better worship God the Creator. At every stage of one's life I have read the Bible but generally in the style of the readings that are set aside for each day since the presence of the World Wide Web in my life. Before that I read as the readings given to us by my Church but not with as much meaning for me as I am doing now reading the Bible from cover to cover.  In my youth when I read the Bible from cover to cover it was less focused and with less understanding. It is too long ago now to remember if I was successful in reading the entire book (I suspect I skipped parts here and there but I did read huge amounts at the time). 

 Yesterday saw us putting together the British Columbia Kipp material to send to the Archives. There are now two boxes (one banker box and one smaller Archival Box all wrapped up in brown paper and labeled which will go to the post office in the afternoon. It was an hour or so of wrapping up the boxes and finding a copy of The Kip Family of America by Frederick E Kip printed in 1928 that Edward had used for his research and added to quite a bit with a genealogical table that he produced in Legacy and is on his website. It has taken me a while to move to getting this done. It was one of his many mentions in those last years before he passed away. 

It keeps reminding me that I must keep my work organized and headed out the door once assembled in order to not be leaving loose ends. But COVID certainly complicated all of that and Edward had concentrated on some other work the last couple of years and I think had just forgotten his intentions with this material. 

Next up is the Allen family material that is mostly in one box and will get that mailed off to the Allen family that I met in 2019 on one of our last trips to his cousins that he had exchanged letters and information with over the numerous decades since he started into genealogy back in the early 1960s (sixty one years of doing genealogy!). 

Then the 40 plus binders of family pictures to reduce down to six to eight binders of purely family material to organize that material for our grandsons to have detailing Edward's life in particular from babyhood to the last set of pictures just before he passed away (mine tend to be electronic as my younger sister has all the originals). They include his many planned trips into the United States with a couple of organizations that he and George Anderson organized over a decade and a half  between the late 1990s up until 2012 I think most of this material has been given to the organizing groups for whom they arranged trips into the United States and in Ontario. 

Time to do the Solitaire puzzles.

And yet another research day

Working on Chromosome 6 and with all the known matches this one is moving along very nicely thus far and I am up to the J forenames as I work my way through almost to the half way point. I have been adding Relatives in common to some of the matches especially on 23 and Me where the matches that are listed do share at least one length of DNA with the current tester. Since all grandparents are represented in the known list this chromosome has been a lot easier than some of the others and with 128 matches that is rather handy. Just five left to go and I will have set up the database and can then move back to writing as I have this lovely chart in excel that I can flip about as I wish to review matches against census  in the 1800s and the ability to check on mother's maiden surnames in the databases. 

I also want to start working on Edward's grandparents phasing as I feel that this is a project that is a go  although my close relatives to him is limited to our daughters I have many many first, second and third cousins in his database which is handwritten but none the less extensive enough to help lead the path back to his grandparents. It may help to solve the mystery of his 2x great grandfather Isaac Kipp's parentage. I rather think his father is Henry Kipp who was a Quaker in Northeast Town area but proving that will be a bit difficult and going back from Henry though might be possible with Quaker records. We know that he matches the Kip line of New Amsterdam/New York so the endpoint or beginning depending on how you look at it is known namely Hendrick Hendricksen Kip where Kip is an added surname to distinguish several Hendrick Hendricksen families in New Amsterdam now New York City. We also have his marriage in The Netherlands and the baptisms of the children there. There is family lore and some written history but much of it is not based on fact and so Edward was busy working with a couple of researchers in The Netherlands in 2017-2019 but COVID struck before we made our trip there. Since my knowledge of Kipp is very limited I did not pick up the traces of that but with all the DNA testing being done around the world I may be able to tease out information at least on the American Colonial lines back earlier in time. We will see as I work on phasing the grandparents. 

I feel this might lessen my reluctance to take apart the binders which proved to be a task too far for me at the time and I set it aside. The idea of taking apart someone's lifetime work putting together all these fourty lovely binders of his many activities through the 54.5 years of our marriage became something I just found difficult. But to save the family portion of it I do need to do it and it has to be me for sure.  I did check to see if the Ottawa Branch of Ontario Ancestors (was Ontario Genealogical Society) would like the trips as I could easily put them into some of the surplus binders but they did not at this time however they are also digital so will not be lost if I now shred all of the prints. It is a difficult item really when you are working with prints of many people still living and all pictures have been named. 

So some shoveling to do later  and time for Church in just a few minutes. Another lovely Sunday in God's world and one would wish that all the world was at peace and every neighbour loving their neighbour as God asked. One can only pray for that and thank God for what He has given to us these many centuries of the presence of Homo Sapiens on this planet. We have been a successful people surviving many many catastrophic happenings especially in the last century. 

Time for Church, tea drank and solitaire puzzles completed. Thank you God for all that You do in the world that You have given to us.  

Chromosome 10 completed and Chromosome 9 started

Yesterday was the day that I learned how to play a computer game using a hand held device; well not entirely the first time I did play a game with my grandson where he helped me to make the moves that I needed to do in his game but this time I did most of it except when I was obviously not getting it right. I am not sure that I am meant for computer games other than solitaire though I must admit. I like them to be short and snappy and not take up a lot of time. But we did have a quiet couple of hours working away at that and it was meant to be a holiday - the first day of 2026. 

Mostly our television set is used for gaming by visitors - it is a lovely big screen for such things and that seems to be fun for the younger generations. Plus I do watch YouTube for my Church Service primarily but also I am doing a history series that I found very interesting. We often watch nature shows on the YouTube made by people around the world. My desire to travel is pretty much nil but it is nice to see other countries. I have traveled so much though with Edward for most of our marriage that it is just nice to not be doing that so much. He loved to drive everywhere and we did. Once I managed, after more than 40 years to get him to fly to Europe, he couldn't fly there often enough. He loved it; all the different countries where his ancestors had been early colonials in particularly the New England Colonies and New York back in the 1600s. His earliest ancestors came to New Holland and lived at Albany and in New Amsterdam now New York.. In our travels we visited all the areas where the Kip family lived amongst others and they were numerous. It wasn't until he really had time to get into his own genealogy that I realized how many of his ancestors (and our daughters for that matter) had lived their entire lives in the colonies of the now United States of America from the 1620s on. When he tested his autosomal DNA he had thousands of cousins really from the beginning of his testing. As the results proved his trace back in genealogy he felt very happy with all of his genealogical endeavours and certainly visiting NEHGS in Boston was part of that. We went to a weekend get together where he worked with Gary Boyd Roberts who helped him with a couple of tricky ancestral lines but for the most part his work was very accurate. 

So I am now into Chromosome 9 and it is also an interesting one with a number of matches. For the most part Chromosome 10 is going to be a lot of genealogical work on the trees of the people who match with long lengths of Rawlings/Cotterill and Buller/Taylor. But equally I do not have all of the Blake/Knight separated or the Pincombe/Gray. I have built this latest excel file in just one so that I can eventually sort it by the name of the match and simplify marking the great grandparent as I have not taken the time to do cross research between chromosomes since there is an easier way than spending all my time flipping back and forth. I have numbered the file so that it can always be resorted back into its original layout. In the case of Chromosome 9 I have  eleven cousins known to me in terms of their relationship to me and our MRCA. Every grandparent is covered with the exception of Rawlings so there will be some work there but that too will be in the future as there is little point in my doing abstract research daily when I can put it all together at once and work on it. But overall this has been a good experience going back to the great-grandparents as they are all on the British census from 1841 on and one is on the Canadian census (my first born Canadian ancestor - Grace (Gray) Pincombe mother of my maternal grandfather John Routledge Pincombe. I always find myself thinking about John and how sad his youth was but my uncle said his father was a happy man with his family. He was very proud of his children and wife my uncle always said. He was over six feet tall and had been a very popular bachelor and did not marry until he was 41 years of age. I imagine many people were very envious of my grandmother and she was fourteen years younger than he was although still she was twenty seven when she married. I have pictures of them in those early years of marriage from my half second cousin which was very nice of him to share with me. George DeKay, my Gray third cousin, who persuaded me to write the Pincombe Profile did set that up. I did actually work at writing books in my younger days and surprisingly have returned to it. But it was kind of my cousin to loan the photo albums to me and I scanned them over a weekend when we came to meet with my Pincombe cousins in advance of writing up the Profile. Since my line had not stayed on the farms I did feel it should principally be about all of them as some were still on the original farms. 

The Prime Minister is going to France to be part of the Coalition of the Willing trying to bring peace to Europe once again. Although some complain about the expense to Canada I think the money that we have used to support Ukraine has been money well spent. We are building up our own defensive industries just because peace is not with us and the only real way to have peace is to always be ready to defend ourselves against aggressive peoples. We do not want war; we as a country have never been aggressive; we have buried far too many of our youth on distant shores. The torch they passed to us we must hold it high and do our best to keep the peace that they died for; the generations that followed them. Life was very different in Canada when I was a young child; we were a very militaristic people very conscious of our need to be ready. We have become like that again. Threatening us with nuclear war is just ignorant and we all know the result of nuclear war but perhaps not; perhaps some people think they can hide underground no ideas on that but the waste of the world that God gave us would not be as He desires. Of that I am very sure. But He waits and watches and His simple words continue to ring down through the ages - love your neighbour as yourself.

So today continue with Chromosome 9 heading towards Chromosome 1 and it is the New Year and time marches onward and must get back to writing the books. I am ready for that now and about to start transcribing some of those Latin documents that have sat on my computer for over a decade. However they still appear to be in good shape but if not I will order them. There are some that will  not benefit me I can see that now but they looked interesting. 

Tea drank. Solitaire puzzles done and I am late for breakfast.  

Cleaning Day Three and then on to Research Days

 Yesterday Cleaning Day Two accomplished along with completing Chromosome 12. Staying inside means more time for research although it has been lovely skiing this year. Once we get sufficient snow  the skiing will be back. In the meantime the cold weather saps the water out of all of that ice. 

Chromosome 12 with twenty known matches went very smoothly and just some work on the Buller/Taylor and Rawlings/Cotterill matches to be done. I may resolve both of these unknown lines - Ellen (Taylor) Buller my maternal grandmother's mother and unknown Cotterill (although several testing companies have selected an individual) my paternal grandmother's father. It does add a sense of mystery to these two lines for sure. Although I was hesitant to work on my paternal grandmother's father's line that is passing in my mind although I will always remember that she loved her step-father very much. She lived with her maternal grandparents when she was quite young (from birth until five years of age) until her mother married William Taylor 11 Feb 1882 in Ludgershall, Wiltshire (a short distance from Kimpton, Hampshire where she was born and baptized). She is found on the census of 1881 with her grandparents William Rawlins and Elizabeth (Lywood) Rawlins at Collingbourne Dulcis, Wiltshire. 

 I did start Chromosome 11 and there are seventeen known cousins for this chromosome with Blake/Knight and Pincombe being particularly well represented but there are matches for all four of the grandparent lines. Buller has just one and this cousin shares X DNA inherited from Sarah (Cheatle) Welsh's mother (still not entirely sure of her surname but she was married to William Cheatle father of Sarah). This was the first chromosome that I ever phased more than a decade ago now. At the time I was amazed at what one could do with all of those matches acquired at that time. Now with  1500 matches over four grandparents the process is a lot less complicated. The methodology has evolved as well although I tend to use several different sets of data to work on crossover points including the original GedMatch setup that was commonly used back a decade ago. I find that the testing companies using different chips does give a slight variance on these crossover points and one must select the best point bearing in mind that this is not yet the exact science it will be one day. 

Having five sibling results makes a large difference but I am about to begin working on my husband's crossover points using just his results, his daughters results and many many 2nd, 3rd and 4th cousins. I suspect it will be possible but will write it up as I proceed. It will be a slower process as I need to get back to writing the books as well. Once I have completed the great grandparents then a portion of each day will go to writing of either the Blake or the Pincombe books. I have given myself until 2028 to complete these two books and will then move to Buller  and a fourth one not yet selected. 

I will never write up Edward's family as I am not familiar enough with his lines - in terms of DNA lots of familiarity and I will do that but I do not know any family stories so will leave that to whomever one day picks up his work where he left off.  He was happy with his final version of his tree although was sad not to have discovered Isaac Kipp's parents names. There were possibilities but he did not feel there was adequate proof for any of them at this time. That his yDNA leads back to Hendrick Hendricksen Kip was adequate for him as the years passed although he was in touch with several researchers in The Netherlands and a trip was planned but COVID-19 break definitely discontinued that possibility. The work on the autosomal DNA was his although I did collect the data into excel files as I did my own but now I will pick up the traces of that work that he did and move it forward with this attempt to phase his grandparent's DNA and then perhaps take it to great grandparents. He has many many more matches than I do although with Living DNA growing that could change in the future - hard to say. 

Still not much work done on the photo albums; perhaps in the New Year I will try again to work on that.  

Time to get back to my morning exercises. I always do them with a short break. Then tea time and solitaire puzzles.  

 

Another Shredding Day

 Another hot sultry day very common in July here in Canada and we spent a good three hours shredding correspondence which stretched in many cases over a sixty year period during which Edward searched for the parents of his Isaac Kipp - known by yDNA to descend from the Kip family of New Amsterdam/New York. Isaac first appears on the 1790 census living next to or with Jonathan Mead the Cooper III in Northeast Town, Dutchess County and census records here in Canada at a later date show this family to be descendant of the New York family. Their marriage date known but not found in any records thus far other than Family Bibles. The birth dates for Isaac and his wife Hannah (Mead) Kipp also in Family Bibles but not located in any records thus far. A yDNA match with the Tillsonburg Kipp family also shows a relationship and this family also from the same area in New York. A mystery not solved in his life time sadly as we spent a good amount of time in Dutchess County going through various repositories looking for that single record. An interesting one I noted way back in the early 1970s was for a Henry Kipp living close by (a Quaker) who died young but did live long enough to have been the father of this Isaac. He lived close to Jonathan Mead and one wonders if by chance Isaac worked for Jonathan and spent his youth after the death of Henry (I thought I found a will but it is so long ago) helping at the Mead home later marrying Hannah. I tend to be a bit dreamy in my thoughts on occasion but Edward required solid proof. Interesting that one of the sons of Benjamin (Isaac's second youngest son) named one of his sons Henry but not really strong enough). To Edward's knowledge Isaac did not have any siblings. Born in 1764 we are looking at the time of the American Revolution - Isaac would have been a young child born the year before the beginning of the Revolution (Henry was a Quaker) and by the end of the War Isaac would have been 19 years of age but no history of being a Quaker or being involved in the Revolution. In 1790 the Bible Records show he married Hannah Mead  (she was six years younger than he was). Jonathan Mead, her father, was a Patriot. Edward did think that Isaac's father might be Isaac since they called his first son Isaac. The sons of Isaac (and the first five children were male) were Isaac, Jonathan, James, John, David, Richard Titus, Benjamin and Daniel with daughters Phoebe, Elizabeth and Susannah. All scanned by Edward those letters and he was shredding them himself the last year or so; that project on its way to completion. I have put it off these four years. Isaac and Hannah came to Upper Canada in 1800 with four of their five children (Jonathan Kipp stayed behind with his grandfather Jonathan Mead (most of his older children had gone west in the United States)) and Isaac and Hannah acquired land as settlers in the Oxford/Brant area of now southwestern Ontario. Many many Americans came north to Canada into what is now Ontario in that time frame. Some of Isaac's children moved to Michigan and others to what became Saskatchewan, and British Columbia. 

A smoke day today as the forest fires still rage in the west but the temperature is going to drop and there is rain coming which will help to clear the air. As a country we really need to pull together to recharge our economy and re-create industry lost by free trade. We are moving together as a unit across the country and many of the First Nations are happy but we need to convince more of them that the very existence of Canada depends on us pulling together and creating the kind of economy that will support us into the future. Still the downsizing here and gradually I will be able to sell the house and move to something smaller but I am not in a rush. The time is coming though when it will be too much for me and I can see that. The big thing is keeping it clean and managing the yard. Keeping the lawns cut this is a large property in terms of length. 

I haven't been out in the back for a bit and the dog two doors up was most excited to see someone he knew with all the change about here. There are new electrical lines going in and an upgrade to the transformers. It is going on 50 years since these lines were laid and the houses built with the block that I live in being the first and we watched all of the rest being built. 

I worked on Chromosome 9 once again and still some more to do to complete the cross over points adjustment with the Living DNA results. Removed some of the smaller matches from my Paint DNA charts. They do not add to the information and make it appear cluttered. However they are saved in my "too small" file. 

Today more work on the matches and soon to start. Drinking my lemon ginger tea and will do the solitaire puzzles shortly.  

A New World Beckons

The consensus reached at the NATO meeting is the New World beckoning to all the countries of the world to find peace. To work together and eliminate imperialism which destroys the existing structure in a country and dominates it with very negative repercussions for that country (the enlarged Soviet Union following World War II is an example). We are past war; we said that in 1945 that wars must end as they destroy our world. Anyone endangering the world deserves to be corralled into their own country until they find a way to stop themselves from attacking other countries - that is the case with Russia attacking Ukraine - a free and independent nation. Threatening us with nuclear weapons and a Third World War is just ignorant (you destroy the world; no one benefits). Get out of Ukraine Russia; you have no right to be there. It is sad that you can have at least 50,000 young Russians killed in Ukraine but you still do not get out. You murder Ukrainian men, women and children; you destroy their land with bombing and mining and keep doing that; it is disgusting. 

Cleaning accomplished and on to the Research Week. I need to decide what to work on for these days before I start on the Kip-Kipp Newsletter. This Newsletter will mostly write itself because it will mostly be about the Y-700 test done on the Y-DNA of my husband. It is interesting and perhaps will lay to rest all stories about the ancestry of the Hendricksen-Kip line in Europe. There was truth in some of those early stories with matches going back deep into Norwegian then Viking times which was alluded to by earlier Kip family writers. But now proven; this Viking link gives a different look to the early story of this family which at some point moved from Norway to The Netherlands. But more on that in the Newsletter. I also need to get back to publishing the material which Edward purchased and we scanned. I got away from that at some point in the past year and will continue publishing that material on his blog. So perhaps I can see how this week might just flow. 

Beautiful rain last night; you could hear it pounding down and the world looks a rich green once again. July has been a kinder month than usual with all this rain. The trees are glistening with the dust washed away from their leaves. There is a rustle in the leaves today; perhaps these long-living flora can feel peace in the air. One hopes so. There are still many trees on our earth that were there before any of us were born and will be there long after we die. Harnessing the knowledge in a tree would be an interesting feat and one wonders what the future holds for us in that regard. Can Homo sapiens survive the tumult of imperialistic war? It can if imperialism stops today and forever. The lines are drawn and we need to move with the United Nations and create a war free world where all can prosper. God watches I am sure of that but does not interfere; we passed the Armageddon of the Bible when we survived the Second World War and now we need to continue to build a war free world and do our best to alter Climate Change so that the children of tomorrow and their grandchildren will have a rich and abundant earth to live on. I tend to think of Revelations as a warning rather than a conclusion.

On to the day; breakfast awaits as always. My favourite meal of the day and it never changes particularly - milk, oats, cranberries, raisins all cooked together and then add in wheat germ, wheat bran, cocoa and blueberries. A delicious hot meal summer, fall, winter and spring to begin the day. 

There are two paths open to me - the one is a retirement living apartment/room whatever where my one-room concept comes into play - I write books and do exercise (and eat) but basically continue my hermit existence on a smaller scale and the other is continuing to be a hermit with my research/publishing and trying to maintain Edwards's research until another picks that up which involves staying where I am because there is still too much stuff. I sent all the Princeton material to the museum there and they may try to interest a student in writing up the Horner material - Ed did write up one article in the Ayr News years ago on Horner. He found the story of Thomas Horner intriguing and collected a lot of material on the Horner family. It would be nice to see his work continue in the hands of another.

Gardening and once again the weeds!

Gardening once again today and it will be cleaning up the bricks around the laneway. I did the front porch, front patio and cleaned up the front garden. I still need to trim the globe cedar but that will be a project for a cooler day, perhaps September. The lawn is actually not too bad. I do need to get the laneway repaved one of these days but not in a rush for that. There is a little parging to do on one side of the garage but again it is not a big problem. But cleaning up around the bricks of the laneway is about the right time. I have done it now for maybe ten or twelve years and generally wait for the growth of May and June to happen as the growth now to the end of the summer will be light given the dry days generally. I need to put in the hardening sand one of these days on the porch, patio and brickwork. That will be a two person job for sure!

No work on Siderfin yesterday, I spent a little time on the Ancestry matches. I just have about 28 to look at and place into my chart and then that project is complete. The second test is very like the first (mine) but the changes that did occur are rather small and insignificant. No real change in terms of matching just a slightly smaller or slightly larger number but pretty rare. Contemplated the next newsletter which will be Kipp and that is pretty much the results of the Y-700 test that was done on Edward's DNA sample at FT DNA. He is the only one who has tested at this level but you do not really need a lot of people to do that when they are matching already to a high level. The Kipp family in America (United States) is quite interesting. The Kipp family here in Canada is primarily descendant of the Kip family of New Amsterdam as far as I can tell from his work on the Canadian Census. It is a small number compared to the descendants of the Kip family of New Amsterdam still living in the United States. But there were several Kipp families who came to the United States in the 1740s which are descendant of the Kipp families in Germany rather than the Netherlands and they do not match the Kip family of New Amsterdam. It is actually a German surname as far as I can tell but acquired by the Kip family of New Amsterdam as a second surname due to the large number of individuals living in the New Amsterdam colony with the surname of Hendricksen which was the surname of the founder of this New Amsterdam line. So very interesting and I am still not sure how long I will keep the Kip-Kipp Newsletter  going. But for the moment I will do that. 

Kayaking last evening was quite lovely. A lot of people out in the wetlands at Petrie Island. Just about anything that will float is seen in the wetlands with people greatly enjoying being on the water. It is nice to have a place closeby where we can boat for sure. The parking pass lets us have up to five hours although we would never use so much time. But it does mean that it is easy to just park there and be on the water in a few minutes.

Other than that the summer moves forward and we are in a heat wave at the moment. No smoke warning at the moment and it is a beautiful sunny day already. Raspberries are ripening and soon will be ready - a little late perhaps because of the lack of sun. 

The birds are busy teaching their young to eat at a feeder and flying lessons for their long trip south - there is an urgency about them actually I hadn't noticed before but then I am less busy and notice more. 

Ground sirloin for dinner last evening with lots of vegetable; small amount of sirloin - large amount of vegetable including asparagus, carrot, peppers, and zucchini along with rice this time. All done in the steamer for the vegetables first and then into the wok after cooking up the meat, onions, garlic and ginger and add the vegetables at the end.  We do not have beef very often but the ground sirloin looked lovely and it was. Enough for tonight and then no beef again for a while likely. I do not eat a lot of meat; not really that fond of meat still in my old age and now on my own I only eat enough to give me adequate protein over a period of time. I prefer legumes, cheese and milk for my protein for sure. 

On to the day and lots to do for sure; must get the weeding done early.

Dashing into summer with a bit of winter mixed in

 As usual we are dashing into summer with a bit of winter mixed in if we actually do get any snow. But it is only April. 

Cleaning of basement accomplished and today the main and second floor. Fortunately the place is small relatively so doable for this going on 78 year old. This has been a week of all sorts of people stuffing my mailbox with ideas on how I could sell my house. That will come in the future I am sure but for the moment I continue. I made chicken stew last night, my favourite by far, with a chicken breast, sweet potato, lots of onion, carrots, orange pepper, then frozen peas and carrots and finally my most favourite ingredient spinach. I do love spinach and it gives everything that fresh taste. As usual there is enough for three more meals. It isn't that I do not like to cook; it is more that I like the idea that a meal is prepared for particular days that have a heavy workload whether it be research or cleaning or gardening for that matter. The broth is delicious as I start with onions, garlic and ginger root browning in the stew pot and then add the chicken to quickly brown it and then pour in the water and presto a perfect chicken sauce to then cook the rest of the vegetables. That was how my grandfather made a stew. He was a wonderful cook and I remember his meals very well. 

In between cleaning today I shall think about the Kipp Newsletter once again and it is getting harder and harder to work on. I do not know the Kipp family other than what Edward told me but I have his research and want to be sure that all of it is out there. He put hours into collecting up all the data. I think a lot of it is but this will put it all in one place in his study group. I need to look at the yDNA results. There were several Kip/Kipp families in the United States and most people are interested in whether they descend from the 1630s-1640s Kip family emigrants to New Amsterdam (now New York) or the Kipp families who arrived from Germany in the 1730s-1740s. They do not appear to be the same family (yDNA) mostly because the Kip family surname was an addition to the Hendrick Hendricksen's name; the earliest emigrant in the Kip family of New Amsterdam and not surprisingly he was from The Netherlands. Although his birth place in The Netherlands was very close to the present day German border and this territory passed back and forth somewhat. The Kipp family that came in the 1700s actually have Kipp as their surname and one of the actual descendants of the German Kipp family has tested his yDNA (he and his line are still in Europe) which has been rather handy and let it be possible to separate for sure the Kip family of New Amsterdam/New York from the German Kipp families who came at a later date. I should actually put this section into Edward's blog and will do that later today. So probably, as there are new people coming into the project, I should look at the DNA project there. He did that himself for the most part although did help with the grouping when he asked me (I love working with data and appear to have a good handle on doing that but I am a numbers person). 

Frank Stronach has it pretty right about how to improve Canada even more than it already is. I like his comments. I continue to support the idea of a Progressive Conservative party but we do not have one at the moment - the so-called Conservative party just attacks Trudeau constantly and daily. I do not care how his family spends their vacation (it would be good for his children to escape that fish bowl existence occasionally). He does a good job although do not agree with how the money of Canadian taxpayers is spent; we need actual dollars into military equipment and the military itself so that we can see it at work. We need more money into infrastructure (and not just oil); that employs people. We need to see the trades and farming for the great value that they give to Canada so that the youth wants to do those jobs. Everything requires a good education now; the way that all life is done now one needs a good education. We do not need to throw money at items hoping that it sticks; we need constructive plans to develop what is needed to keep Canada great. The money is once again getting hoarded by some; profits spread amongst the workers is a fantastic idea. Good work Frank Stronach.

Is Japan the actual country that is in the crosshairs of China? The whole idea of the United Nations was to move forward together. China suffered greatly before and during World War II (which really started in Manchuria in 1930 by the way) but we give it the dates 1939-1945 because Canada was in for those dates. Americans generally see it as 1941-1945 because Pearl Harbor was attacked 7 Dec 1941. But just as China suffered so did all of the so-called Allied countries (a lot of wonderful people died in that war) of which China and Russia (after Germany attacked them and broke the treaty between them dividing up Poland; one can never trust a Nazi) were both part. But we moved on into the United Nations and decided that the best result for everyone would be peace without retribution once the war criminals were prosecuted. That was what I grew up in a world where people were prosecuted for their misdeeds and reconstruction of war zones so that the world could again move forward. It has been good in my lifetime although the constant threat of Nuclear War has hung over my entire life (and continues) but trade has increased and developed so many countries; we were prosperous until Russia attacked first Georgia, then held an illegal and fake referendum in Crimea and then attacked Ukraine (a free sovereign state). We need more trade; more talking and considerably less war for sure to continue our excellent trading relations. Supplying Nazi Russia with the tools of war prolongs this conflict. If the Russian people do not want to be seen as Nazis then they need to stand up to their Nazi leaders (Putin and his enablers). Personally I do not care who heads Russia; I just want them to get out of Ukraine. Russia is their country after all and has a proud history that the Nazi Putin and his enablers are spoiling. 

The morning moves on and so must I. Lots to accomplish. Re-watching The 100 as I run. A few nuances that I missed the first time through. An interesting show actually and not being a fan of fantasy reading I am surprised to find myself watching these films.

Breakfast awaits.

Will of Johanna Kip, Kleyn Heylig Land, Haarlem, The Netherlands - The National Archives, PROB 11/898, probated 25 May 1764

My husband does a Kip/Kipp one name study and this will was for him.

Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 19 Mar 2017
Source:  The National Archives, PROB 11/898
Name of testator: Johanna Kip
Place: Kleyn Heylig Land, Haarlem, The Netherlands
Type of Record: Will
Dated: 4 Nov 1763, probated 25 May 1764

[In margin] Mrs Johanna Kip
[Top] Translated out of Low Dutch

1    On this day the fourth of November in the year one
2    thousand seven hundred and sixty three before me Wernerus
3    Kohne Notary admitted by the Court of Holland residing at
4    Haarlem appeared Mrs Johanna Kip Spinster of Age dwelling
5    on the Kleyn Heylig Land in this City who declared that having
6    some effects in England and Great Britain she hath by
q    these presents nominated and appointed Messrs Cornelis
8    van Ghennenick Clark of the Conveys and Licences here
9    Nicolas Galle Notary and Attorney in this City and Mr Francis
10    Jacob Galle Advocate in the respective Courts of Justice at the
11    Hague to be the only Executors and Administrators of all such
12    Effects which she at the time of her decease shall or may
13    have in the said kingdom of England and Great Britain
14    giving unto them full power and authority immediately after
15    the death of her the Testatrix to cause all the said Effects
16    none excepted to be placed upon the Names of them the
17    Gentlemen Executors or the Name or Names of such other
18    person or persons as they shall think fit and accordingly to
19    manage administer sell alienate or incumber the same
20    and to receive the Moneys arising therefrom and give
21    acquittances for the same she the Gentlewoman appearer
22    desiring that after her decease Letters of Administration may
23    be granted to the aforesaid Gentleman Executors in Common
24    Form Thus done paper signed and sealed in the City of
25    Haarlem in the presence of Jan Vermeulen and Pieter de
26    Grocg as Witnesses who have also signed these presents
27    the day Month and year as above
28    Johanna Kip
29    J Vermeulen
30    P Du Grocg
31    W Khone Notary
32    Faithfully Translated out of Low Dutch London
33    the 25th day of April 1764 By me Geo Schutz
34    Notary Public 1764
35    This Will was proved at London before the Most
36    Reverend Father in God Thomas by divine providence Lord
37    Archbishop of Canterbury primate of all England and Metropolitan
38    on the twenty fifth day of May in the year of our Lord one
39    thousand seven hundred and sixty four in the prerogative
40    Court of Canterbury by the Oaths of Cornelis Van Ghennenick
41    and Nicolas Galle two of the Executors named in the said
42    Will as to the Goods Chattels and Credits of the deceased lying
43    and being in the kingdom of England and Great Britain to
44    whom administration was granted they having been first
45    sworn by Commission duly to administer Power reserved of
46    making the like Grant to Francis Jacob Galle the other Executor
47    named in the said Will when he shall apply for the same

Will of Dulcia Lavinia Kip, Zierikzee, Zeeland, The Netherlands - The National Archives, PROB 11/1570, probated 27 Jul 1815

My husband does a Kip/Kipp one name study and this will was for him.

Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 18 Mar 2017
Source:  The National Archives, PROB 11/1570
Name of testator: Dulcia Lavinia Kip
Place: Zierikzee, Zeeland, The Netherlands
Type of Record: Will
Dated: 31 Dec 1803, probated 27 Jul 1815
[In margin] Johannis Kingdon

1    On this Day the thirty first December in the year
2    One thousand eight hundred and three before me I Mosselmans
3    Notary admitted by the Court of Holland and Zeeland residing at
4    Zierik Zee and in the presence of the afternamed witnesses appeared
5    Madam Dulcia Lavinia Kip widow of the late Mr Georgus
6    Hoogendorp whilst living Minister of the Dutch Reformed Community
q    in this city living here who declared to have some effects Stocks in
8    the public funds and other Goods and Credits in the Kingdom of Great
9    Britain has by these presents constituted and appointed Executor
10    of this her last Will and Testament limited to her said effects Stocks in
11    the public funds and other goods and Credits and for administrator of
12    all such effects Stocks in the public funds and other goods and credits
13    as she at the time of her decease may have in
14    the aforesaid kingdom of Great Britain or which at any time may
15    belong to her in the aforesaid kingdom Mr William Adrian de Jonge
16    doctor of Laws practicing advocate and living in this city giving to him
17    all such power and authority as can or may be given to testamentary
18    Executors to put and transfer immediately after her the testatior decease
19    all and singular the said effects Stocks in the public funds and other
20    goods and credits now accepted into the name or names of all or any
21    of her executors or to any other person or persons and further to
22    manage administer sell alienate charge and nominate to receive the
23    consideration money and to give receipt for the same as she the
24    testatrix requested that after her decease a probate may be granted of
25    this her testament and administration of all and singular her effects
26    Stocks Goods and credits situate in the aforesaid kingdom of Great Britain
27    to her aforesaid executor she the lady testatrix requesting that by me
28    Notary be ______ An Act there of in form and being her testament and
29    last Will respecting her effects Stocks goods and credits in the said kingdom
30    of Great Britain This passed  signed sealed and declared by the said
31    Lady Testatrix in Zierik Zee aforesaid in the presence of Francois
32    Adriaan van Landyk Abraham Steemdyk as witnesses who together
33    with the lady appearer and me Notary signed these presents on the
34    day and year above written Dulcia Lavinia Kip and Hogendorp
35    I Mosselmans Notary Signed and sealed in the presence of us as
36    Witnesses Francois Adr v Landyk A Steemdyk
37    Registered at Zierik Zee the 27 May 1815 vol 3 page 196 v die 3
38    received for duty with additional one Guilder 16 ____ W de Jonge
39    Faithfully translated from the original Dutch last will
40    to English in London the 14 Jun 1818 Quod al testor
41    A J Guitard Not Pub
42    Proved at London 27th July 1815 before the Judge by the Oath of
43    Willem Adrian de Jonge Doctor of Laws the sole Executor to whom
44    admin was granted (limited by the effects Stocks in the funds and other
45    Goods in Great Britain) being first sworn by Comon duly to admin

New York State Family History Conference - 17-19 Sep 2015

We have been away most of September although I have actually blogged quite a bit compared to this past year. The beginning part we were down to Stratford for the Stratford Shakespearian Theatre and it did not disappoint. We saw three great plays; something my husband has always wanted to do through the years and we just never got to it but now this is the third year that we have done that. An absolutely unforgettable experience as the stage at Stratford is phenomenal allowing for the feeling of being right there with the players. I especially enjoyed our last play - The Physicists. It was a most interesting look at nuclear power and how it corrupts but yet it has been a life saver for others in health implications. Harnessing the atom has both its dark side and its extremely bright side.

Then we had our annual Schultz Family Reunion and talking about the Family Tree and testing DNA which was a theme which carried itself on into the next couple of days as we visited several groups of cousins trying to interest them in DNA testing. My husband has had good luck with his mother's side in terms of finding matches and proving lines but wanted to do the same for his father's side of the family. Matches are slowly growing there now and hopefully more. But one side of his mother's family, my husband's maternal grandfather is still lacking any coherent knowledge of the genetic accumulation and so we hope that this visit will result in several people testing and letting us learn more about the Link family which Ed has traced back to Tuningen, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wurttenberg in the late 1600s.

Then we were off to the New York State Family History Conference at Syracuse New York. An excellent conference and of course Ed is still searching for his elusive connection between Isaac Kipp born in 1764 in New York area and Hendrick Hendrickson Kip an emigrant to New Amsterdam/New York in the latter part of the 1630s. Other interests as well but principally solving the Kip line is high on  his agenda. He attended a lot of lectures on searching the early records and what might be there to help you in your quest.

For the most part I attended lectures on DNA and these were given by Blaine Bettinger and Judy Russell, two not to be missed giants in the field of DNA. I attended four of their lectures in total. Two others that I particularly found interesting were given by Matthew Knutzen. He provided two tantalizing lectures on the map collection at the New York Public Library and a crowdsourcing project that has produced interesting results. We have spent many hours at the New York Public Library and their collection of genealogical material is incredible. The map collection completes this textual collection in amazing ways. I also attended a lecture on the records of the DAR as I think they might help to solve the dilemma of Isaac Kipp. One day we must get to their library in Washington although things are coming online rapidly there as well.

The DNA lectures on autosomal DNA by both Blaine Bettinger and Judy Russell were most interesting. I am into autosomal DNA these days and I think that is the direction that family history research will move to for the most part although yDNA is still the leader in strictly surname research. I want to do more with all the autosomal DNA matches that I have been accumulating and I am slowly working through that process. My matches with the Lywood family have proven to be quite interesting even though I already knew that line back into the 1500s. Revealing the matches helps with the sidelines that feed into this family line and that, to me, is the great benefit of autosomal testing. For males I think testing their yDNA and autosomal is an absolute necessity to have it available to pass on to future generations. The mitochondrial is interesting but the other two are imperative. For women the autosomal testing is essential and the mitochondrial again interesting especially if you are brickwalled with your female line back.

The biggest most important item that came out of these talks was the absolute necessity of testing all of your siblings if that is possible and trying to phase your parent's/grandparent's DNA. Blocking them into familial lines is my aim ultimately and I did not see a lot of that discussed but I think it too is the future. No better gift to give to one's parents even though deceased that the ability of their descendants to have at hand all these tools to do as complete family research as possible. One doesn't know who will pick up the threads of one's research in the future so providing them with as many tools as possible is the best way forward.

DNA and Surname Studies

I gave a Google Hangout on Saturday for The Surname Society on DNA and Surname Studies and promised to share it with my blog. I belong to both The Guild of One-Name Studies and The Surname Society. My world wide one-name studies are at the Guild and my localized one name studies are at The Surname Society.

http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/TSS-Hangout-25Jul2015-DNA%20and%20Surname%20Studies.pptx

Slide 1
Title Page (PLCGS is an acronym for Professional Learning Certificate in Genealogical Studies which I obtained from The National Institute for Genealogical Studies which was based at the University of Toronto in the Faculty of Information Studies when I graduated in 2007 in English and Canadian Studies).

Slide 2
List of Useful books for DNA and Surname Studies

Slide 3
I find this useful to add as I want people to realize what they may learn from DNA testing and how one should approach this rather novel and progressive way of looking at your genealogy. Personally it was the advent of DNA testing (and my cousin's prompting as he wanted a profile of my emigrant Pincombe family for a local history book) that really brought me into genealogy as I felt that I could actually prove my ancestry.

Slide 4
Useful abbreviations

Slide 5
I like all the testing companies that I have used. I do not have any actual preference as they have all served the purpose that I had in mind when I tested at them.

Slide 6
Getting into the nitty-gritty now, I suggest that if anyone wants to join a project that you manage you should let them unless they really do not carry the surname that you are looking for at all or do not belong to the particular haplogroup of which you are administrator/co-administrator.

Slide 7
My summary of the talk to follow. The first six slides were a warmup to get into the topic itself. From this point the slides assume some knowledge of the different types of DNA although I do give a brief overlook.

Slide 8
List of the DNA that I am going to look at and for the moment is the DNA tested by the companies at which I have tested either myself or my brother.

Slide 9
Y DNA or the Male line in one's ancestry. Our father may be known (as in my case) or unknown to us but the Y DNA which the sons of any particular male carry traces his line back generation upon generation to the first individual who carried that exact genetic signature (although a few mutations could have crept in through the centuries).

Slide 10
Autosomal DNA which is contributed to by all our ancestors although they may not all show up in the resultant set that we receive because that is the luck of the draw one might say. I believe that autosomal DNA is now coming into its own and is quite important in DNA projects.

Slide 11
X chromosome is the mate to the Y chromosome in males and females receive an X chromosome from each parent. In males there are a limited number of people who will match you because your X chromosome is solely from your mother so is entirely her side of the family and excludes her father's father's line. but does include her father's mother's line since that is the exact chromosome which he has passed to his daughters. Perhaps not useful for Surname Studies but could prove interesting on occasion when sorting through matches.

Slide 12
Mitochondrial DNA probably has very little use in Surname Studies but I do mention one and that is geographic location for emigrant ancestors. Really not pertinent if you already know where your ancestors lived but in the case of people whose ancestors emigrated in the 1600s (or long before that actually when one looks at the First Peoples to the Western Hemisphere) as a married couple the mitochondrial DNA might point to a location where the particular haplogroup subclade is found.

Slide 13
Case Studies to be examined include my husband's Kipp/Kip one name study and two of my one name studies Pincombe and Blake.

Slide 14
My husband has been running his KIPP/KIP study at FT DNA for over six years now. His purpose was to find the genetic signature for this rather interesting family. His own line goes back to his 2x great grandfather Isaac KIPP who was born in 1764 likely at Northeast Town in Dutchess County where he is found on the census with his wife Hannah in 1790 living next to or with his father in law Jonathan Mead. Was this KIPP family the New Amsterdam family from the late 1630s (emigrated from Amsterdam Holland) or was it one of the KIPP families that was naturalized in the 1750s coming from the Germanic States. These two groups are the ancestors of many of the KIPP/KIP families in North America.

Slide 15
I then discussed the KIPP study and the members and that the study determined that this was not a singleton surname by the Y DNA results.

Slide 16
A list of the first 12 markers found for the New Amsterdam family and the significance of DYS426 being 13 in this family grouping thus separating this KIPP/KIP family from the other KIPP families in North America. There are differences in CDYa/b which it is hoped will permit separation of the three sons of the original emigrant or perhaps sons of those sons. That is still being worked on as this part of the study slowly grows.

Slide 17
 I summarized the comments above noting that one of the other study groups has similar results in the first 12 markers except for the significant DYS426 which is 12 in that family but they also have other differences which results in a Genetic Distance of 6 or 7 on 37 markers. Hence they are not the same family in a genealogical timeframe. My husband has done a lot of research on Dutch records now and has determined that at least prior to 1600 (and not sure how far back before that time) this family lived in the border area of Denmark/Netherlands/Germany although in the territory known as The Netherlands at that time.

Slide 18
One of my pet recommendations to anyone in a surname group that I am involved with is to encourage them to join the relevant haplogroup project for their surname. The administrators of the Haplogroup projects have been very aggressive in putting together fantastic phylogenetic charts of their members and I include an image that I wasn't able to show yesterday due to technical problems at my end.

This particular chart is for my Blake line (Blayke) and note that CTS4122+ separates my Blayke from Blake beside it. The interesting part of all of this is that my grandfather worked with the ancestor of this tester in the Train Yards at Eastleigh and they wondered if they were related. Probably not in a thousand years one might suspect. But interesting to see how the administrators are putting together their information into charts into a genealogical timeframe.

Slide 19
A second case study and this one for my PINCOMBE/PINKHAM one name study. This slide talks about some of the people who have tested and how these results looked. As a result of the first two items I decided to set the Y DNA study aside for several years. The third bullet item brought it back to life again and the fourth bullet item provides a short historical reference to a will that I have transcribed and how it might work into the story of bullet three.


Slide 20
This is my PINCOMBE family tree from my grandfather back to his furtherest back known ancestor (lived at North Molton, Devon). The black arrow marks the most recent common ancestor for the PINCOMBE tester in Australia and myself. John PINCOMBE (b 1808 Bishops Nympton, Devon) is my emigrant ancestor.

Slide 21
I talked about the problems that I had with this PINCOMBE/PINKHAM single surname study. Mostly it is the small group of testers and no matches. My history of this family is known back to about 1485 but the other testers are looking at the latter part of the 1600s for their furtherest back ancestor. I found some interesting earlier history for the PENCOMBE (spelling used by the earliest PINCOMBE at North Molton, Devon) family in Herefordshire in the 1300s. At the time of the mismatch I also noted that the surname PINKHAM was found in Devon/Cornwall earlier than 1485.

Slide 22
My PINCOMBE/PINKHAM study was an inherited one from an earlier researcher to whom I am not
related as far as I know. The earlier study had been deposited at the Society of Genealogists, London, England, UK and the original researcher Dr Richard PINKHAM (Gloucestershire) had begun this study prior to WWII when he first collected his information including abstracting the wills at the Devon Record Office (bombed in WWII and all records destroyed). I do not want to undo 50+ years of research; I do not mind incorporating new material into the existing study. So I adopted a wait and see attitude as my method of resolving the conflict mentioned in Slide 19.

Slide 23
Resolving such a difficulty may not occur very quickly and there are several other ways to look at a study anyway so I continued (and still continue) collecting documental evidence for the PINCOMBE/PINKHAM family. I blog about the Pincombe family and with my own success with Family Finder and PINCOMBE/PINKHAM really encourage any female PINCOMBE/PINKHAM to test with Family Finder and join the project. Then luck enters into the equation and the match in Sweden is certainly very very interesting especially as his haplogroup is not very common in Sweden (more common in the British Isles).

Slide 24
Autosomal DNA has played a role in the PINCOMBE/PINKHAM study as I have two different matches one with a known fourth cousin and one with a known third cousin once removed with our common ancestor being in the PINCOMBE family. I mention that finding a descendant of the John PINCOMBE and Johane BLACKMOORE family would add greatly to the study and prove this line although the paper proof is probably more than adequate (I have transcribed the entire set of parish registers at Bishops Nympton) the DNA verification is always exciting as well.

Slide 25
The BLAKE/BLEAK study is the final case study in this presentation looking at Y DNA principally with a little autosomal mentioned. The actual Y DNA study is administered by Bill BLEAK although I am a co-administrator along with two others. This study although begun in 2004 is still in its infancy. Interesting results are coming out of it but more testers are needed. With such a large surname 50+ testers is not enough to really draw a lot of conclusions. I publish the Blake Newsletter four times a year and report on the DNA progress of the study there.

Slide 26
A little background on the Blake one name study.

Slide 27
This Case Study looks at the descendants of a group of families - PARLEE/ALLEN/FOLKINS and I mention GedMatch as being a good site to enter your results and collect your matches by surname if possible or at least by matches.

Slide 28
More on the PARLEE/ALLEN/FOLKINS families and they descend from United Empire Loyalists brought to New Brunswick by the British following the American Revolution. I propose that as you put known cousins into the Chromosome Browser start marking portions of the Chromosome as belonging to a particular surname if possible. As you acquire more and more members it may be possible to find particular areas that are specific to a surname and then when unknown but likely related people join you can predict their lineage by their matches. An interesting way to look at surname projects I think.

Slide 29
Talked about mitochondrial DNA project and I am involved in two - the T haplogroup project and the H11 project. both at FT DNA.

Slide 30
H11 Haplogroup phylogenetic chart (build of February 2014). I have over 100 members in my study with their full genetic scan and a couple of these subclades appear to belong to particular areas in Europe (Europe includes both East and West). My own haplogroup H11a2a1 appears to be NorthWestern Europe and primarily the British Isles). The haplogroup H11a2a2 is primarily an Eastern European group. H11b1 appears to be mostly Eastern Europe extending into Central Europe.

Slide 31
Mitochondrial DNA is not really useful in Surname studies except perhaps that a location of an emigrant couple might be discovered.

Slide 32
X chromosome studies is again the least useful in Surname Studies. Males have limited matches so might prove useful on occasion.

Slide 33
Quick review of the benefits and drawbacks to Y DNA studies although I think that testing your paternal line is absolutely essential and any drawbacks are really very unimportant. How to attract members is always a problem but publicizing your study is the best means.

Slide 34
A query slide with my email but I should mention my knowledge of DNA is limited to the above.

Slide 35
List of suggested books and I do own them all and find each of them to be most useful.

Slide 36
Thank you for reading this far!