Wednesday, January 31, 2024

Newsletters moving along

 Finished the cleaning yesterday and in between (my rest periods) I worked on the data for the Newsletters. There are twenty new members of the H11 study (now 475 although some of these are Family Finder only). I have 436 sets of data mostly full mitochondrial results but maybe a dozen that are not. I need to look at the individuals in my incomplete file (not full mitochondrial results) and see if any of them has done the full test this past year and re-assign them to the appropriate subclade.

I have to work on the yDNA material for the Kipp study yet and that will be today. Between the two I shall be busy until the first of February which is the usual publication day for these two newsletters. 

The information coming out now on UNRWA is not surprising actually. There needs to be more encouragement to develop industry/commerce/food production in Gaza and none on how to make war and threatening to annihilate the Jewish people. It is a crime against the Gazan children what Hamas has done to them and that the Gazans are willing to be a part of it all is a crime against their own children by Hamas and their parents. Children should be able to grow up without all of this hatred, bitterness and war mongering. I think the suffering of the children is sad to watch daily and all caused by Hamas and their parents. 

Today continuing on the Newsletters and perhaps occasionally taking a peak at some of the items I have been thinking about with regard to the Blake and Pencombe books. I am definitely into the writing stage now and have put down on paper the ideas that I have accumulated over the past year in my daydreaming time. But now the real facts and data need to come out and fill the pages. I think my estimate of two years is good which will see completion just before Christmas 2025 for both hopefully. The generations may slow me down towards the end. I am not sure how far I will bring it forward actually. Into the Parish Registers for sure and hopefully into census time. But up to 1920 less likely as the sheer volume of the number of people might be quite daunting to individual lines to pursue their genealogy. I am not really a genealogist although trained to be one but I am a one-namer although it appears I do more than one name!

The Siderfin Book that I revised and updated has apparently been downloaded 1000 times. I have sent it to a number of repositories but still more to send it to. But it can also be downloaded from my website:

http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm

Then select Siderfin from the  list of Ancestral Names broken down into grandparent level. The Siderfin is my 3x great grandparent. Select Siderfin and then from the Siderfin Section go to the bottom of that section and the book can be downloaded : The Siderfin Family of West Somerset. 

This is a revision and update of James Sanders: History of the Siderfin Family of West Somerset published in 1912 in Exeter, England. 

Minus 7 degrees celsius and cloudy today. No snow tody and the possibility of rain or snow tomorrow. A strange winter for sure as we did not have our long cold spell in January but could see it in February. The polar areas are definitely suffering from climate change. 




Tuesday, January 30, 2024

Accomplishment - nil

Although I cleaned yesterday my accomplishment yesterday was absolutely nil otherwise. But perhaps that is good; great rest for the eyes. Today I must finish the cleaning - basement to do. 

Minus 6 degrees celsius out there but no snow promised particularly. Since this is our wet season when the ground receives lots of moisture that is not a good sign. Climate Change and its effects on Canada are quite disastrous really as with all polar regions. But good news the solar panels have reactivated the lander that Japan sent to the moon. Life continues if people will let it. People are so greedy.

I do still really like the idea of bringing in thousands of Palestinian children to Canada (3 to 8 and possibly to 10 years of age (depends on the child because we do not want them spouting lies such as we heard here on the streets of Canada following the despicable acts of Hamas and their sycophants on the 7th October last) as they will require minimal processing and they deserve the break from war). Surely the likely 10,000 households of Palestinians can take in a lot of children and perhaps other people would as well. Not something I would take on as it is much nicer for them to have a "foster father and mother". Giving them a chance to run and play; to learn and be free of bombing would be great. They did nothing to cause the life in which they are living (too young to effectively dig tunnels one would assume although these Satanic Hamas people might try to have them do that) and can only benefit from the opportunity. They can still be in touch with parents on a daily basis with the wonder of internet yet they will have a happier life. That would be a better way to spend our support money for Gaza; then we know it is not building tunnels/equipping war machines and threatening Israel. Or we can just give it to the Rohingya peoples who are in a much more desperate plight with very few people aiding them. 

According to the Wikipedia page on UNRWA 5.9 million people are registered with UNRWA. Who are all these people?  As of 2023 2,098,389 people live in the Gaza Strip. Why are they not working to support themselves; why do they need this support? For one thing they reduce the support per person in Gaza by 50% if they are actually all receiving support. No Islamophobia here; I just think people should work. I have worked since I was 12 (and before that I helped to look after my younger siblings and of course it was just in the summers when I was a child) and I really do not see why the fields of Gaza are not full of food being grown - wonderful climate there. It is the same soil as Israel has I would think and they grow an enormous amount of food. Tilling the soil is the least that people can do for themselves and for a young person is an easy task instead of digging tunnels or whatever else they are doing - bomb making, no ideas on that.. Tunnels everywhere but no food being grown - very strange and something has to change there obviously. Hate against peoples is a sin; laziness is a sin. God does not forgive sin which isn't overcome and removed.

Free the hostages and get out of Gaza Hamas. Hamas is evil; they are Satanic.

Other than that I am thinking about the Blake and Pencombe books. They slowly grow in my mind as I continue to search for documents to help me to prove a point or find a point to prove really. There has been little done on these families between 1200 and 1500. There is material and I just need to put it together in a rigorous fashion. Then I can begin the generation chapters. 

Are we on the cusp of war; the waiting time as my mother called it. You could feel the tension rising and then sinking down a little once more but gradually the tempo built and then it happened. That was what she said. War is horrible; so many young people die - look at Russia's illegal war against Ukraine. Now the talk is trying to deny Ukraine its right to be a country by those who support Russia or just want to steal part of Ukraine! Remember Poland and how it got divided up near the beginning of World War II; people are so greedy.  Glory to Ukraine and Israel; prayers for Ukraine and Israel. Prayers for the world which is also feeling old with Climate Change.

Teatime. Kip-Kipp Newsletter and H11 Newsletter in process.

Monday, January 29, 2024

St Lawrence Parish Church in York was the online Church yesterday

The online Sunday service yesterday was Candlemas celebrated at St Lawrence Parish Church in York. It was a Candlemas Procession and a traditional anglo-catholic service. I feel so blessed to find these services online. I think part of it is the English accent that reminds me of my grandparents. It is a wonderful service.. 

We visited a number of Churches in England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The Churches that are strongest in  my memory are those closest to where my grandparents went to Church. I was lucky to have had the time with my second cousin Ivan Kent (his mother was a Blake and first cousin to my father). When we went back to England to do some research at the National Archives Ivan was not well and passed away before we arrived. He had hoped to come to London and spend some time showing us the things he really enjoyed which included Wolfe's Statue at Greenwich. We did visit that and took the boat as he had wanted to do. I felt as if I was bringing him with me in my mind. 

Before the service I went and did my every few weeks grocery shopping trip. It actually took me seven tries to get the van into the garage as I want it to be precisely in the middle and absolutely straight coming  out again. It is the only trip that I make on my own for the most part. I did drive for my dental appointment but from now on that will be just a block away and a nice walk. I am getting ready for the possibility that I will not have my driver's licence after I turn 80 years of age. I do not want to suddenly feel lost if that happens - I need to prepare somewhat. And so I have. 

Then a lovely lunch after my 40 minute run. I do like to do that every day except the full day of cleaning. There is just so much a 78 years plus person can do in a day I am discovering. One is much better off to let the muscles of your body tell you how much you can do in a day and not your mind! 

I then watched an archaeology  movie on Netflix - Unknown: The Lost Pyramid filmed in 2023. Dr. Zahi Hawass was the Director. It was an excellent movie. 

I did think about the two books though for Blake and Pencombe. This will be a Blake day of writing and I continue discovering the online material for Andover which surprised me with comments on the Blake family at Eastontown. William Blake left his will dated 27 Jul 1582 and probated 14 Nov 1582. 

William died between 27 July 1582 and the 14 November 1582 when his will was probated by his second son William. This was the first long will that I transcribed after I learned to read the early English which appears in this will. It is seven pages in total and with very small handwriting it is 329 lines in total. I think he was a very precise man as he details absolutely everything that could possibly go wrong in the settling of an estate. He is particularly precise in how his wife Elizabeth is to be treated. I wonder is he so precise because she is a second wife? There is confusion about this William Blake of Eastontown. He writes his will, he is mentioned in several Visitations and he appears on the Blake Pedigree chart held by the Swindon and Wiltshire Record Office. I wander between two thoughts with regard to this William Blake. Either he is the same man appearing on all of these documents or there are two William Blake gentlemen living at Eastontowne who died in the same year 1582. What are the odds? I have no idea actually and continue to hunt out references to William Blake to see if I can determine if he was the only William Blake who died at Eastontown and was the father of two successive sets of children (all named in his will but a couple of differences which will need accommodation.

William then names his brother Edmund who must still be living in 1582 although I have yet to find him. He also mentions his sisters Elizabeth Monday and Ann Godwyn. These are the same children that Nicholas Blake names as his children along with William. William is now located in the family that lived at Enham (near Andover prior to 1527 when his grandmother Jone Blake widow left her will naming her sons Robert and Nicholas and her daughter Elizabeth married to Mr. Mylne). This William was also mentioned in the will of William Blake of Speen Berkshire probated 28 Jul 1552. But I must not get ahead of  myself. I need to begin as far back as I am able which means I must locate the reference to a John Blake in the 1310s. 

Today though is the large cleaning day so not a lot will be done on the Blake book today. Plus I must think about the two newsletters I am committed to: The H11 Newsletter which I will only publish once a year unless there is an interesting story to publish as I only do the breakdown once a year. The Kipp Newsletter which will only deal with yDNA. Edward left the yDNA mostly to me since I was into that type of discussion but he did carry on correspondence with a number of individuals re the yDNA. He was more into autosomal DNA and had asked a number of his third and second cousins to test as he was looking for a couple of links that were missing. Most of them did test for him which was nice but I have not been involved in that part of his study and my brain seems a bit full at the moment to contemplate taking that discussion on from where he left it. It might be something my daughter might do when she retires. It is something that can amazingly sit on the back burner for quite a while. 

Other than that the day begins. Cleaning both floors today.


Sunday, January 28, 2024

Pencombe Research Day and ice clearing

 Working on Pencombe and found a Richard Vyncombe G7 at North Tawton Parishe. There is also an Alexander Vyncombe, Pikeman. I did not find anyone at Tawstock, Bideford or Kings Nympton. Will continue pursuing that with other records that I have. I did find a few entries for this spelling of the surname.

A number of interesting items for Pencombe in Herefordshire that I am in the process of putting into the chapter. It waits for the Inquisition Postmortem which will likely come along in the next week or so. 

I have to decide now whether to begin the First Generation and that will depend a lot on the material that I am looking at right now. But I will continue going through the Calendar of Patent Rolls for Henry VII as I have not yet found a reference to Pencombe any spelling. 

My laneway, porch and patio are now ice free. Taking three or four days to do that made it a much easier task. In my past when Edward was no longer able to do anything like that I would go out and do the entire thing at one time although gradually I did change that to a couple of days! One learns as one ages. 

I am glad that the Prime Minister has decided to send our aid to Gaza directly.I am counting on the Secretary General of the United Nations handling this exposure of one of the subgroups as having been involved in the October 7 2023 massacre of Israeli peoples (babies, children, women and men).

Today I do not work on genealogy. I will give my eyes a good break. 

I watched a new movie yesterday called Lancaster. It reminded me of the unfortunate necessity when one is defending one's country of having to bomb the other country to get them to stop bombing you! I also remembered that the children of England were shipped off to the country and even here to Canada to keep them safe. I think it would really help Gaza if we would offer to take in a large number of young children as we did during the Second World War. That protects them from the horror of war; feeds them and keeps them safe until they can go home once again. Not sure how it would all be managed but there are perhaps 10,000 households of Palestinians living in Canada now that could take in several children and perhaps other people would do that. Give them time away from all of that horror especially the little ones (say three to ten year olds). That would be even better than sending aid to Gaza; use the money here to help the children. The advantage now a days that the children could still talk to their parents every day now with the ability of internet but still be away from the horrors of war and rebuilding itself. 

Even if peace comes quickly it would be an opportunity to give these children time away whilst the rebuilding happens. I think 3 to 10 is a vulnerable age group and they should have this opportunity to a stable quiet life. I think myself that my cheering for the death of Nazis tracked down after the Second World War is in itself  problematic (although I think they deserved it). Children should not grow up hating. They deserve a world where everyone respects everyone else. If every country that could afford to take in these children did, I think it would be a wonderful opportunity for the children. They will return to a country restored and on its way to recognition. That will take the pressure off of the inspection of this agency within the United Nations which supplies aid to countries and give lots of time for review and discussion. For Gaza to survive so long through this months long war there must have been a good deal of stockpiling and the reasons for that need to be discussed - who ordered it and why was it permitted? I believe totally in the United Nations and as a founding member we are particularly in a good position to request such a review and quickly.

Another Sunday in God's world. Time for a cup of tea. 

Saturday, January 27, 2024

Clearing ice and Blake research

 Yesterday saw a little more of that ice cleared away. I might get the pick out today and complete the task but it is mostly cleared. Hopefully no more ice for a while. 

Worked on the history of Andover most of the day. I did a lot of reading and not a lot of writing but I do not expect much in that chapter but was surprised at a couple of the sites where there was actually information on the Blake family of Andover dealing with some of the land records. 

Spent about an hour on my Latin lessons on duolingo. This time through I am finding it somewhat easier since I remember the early part very well. Where I got bogged down was lack of preparation for the learning. It is a while since I learned a new language for sure. This time I am more organized and putting more time into actually memorizing the declensions. You do need to memorize the declensions it would appear just as one had to memorize the verbs in French and German had some other items that needed special work although my German was mostly scientific German. 

Today is Pencombe and I will work again on the Pencombe family in Herefordshire. The Inquisition Postmortem request has been checked and I have requested the copy. It is two pages apparently which was a surprise sort of as most Inquisition Postmortems that I have had in the past were just one page. Perhaps it isn't a large membrane. It will be in Latin so slow slogging through that one I expect but good practice for my Latin.

Saturday once again and it is a dull day out there and the weather promises mostly cloudy. Teatime.

Friday, January 26, 2024

International Court of Justice

 I did watch the entire proceedings of the decision made by the International Court of Justice regarding South Africa's petition to the court that Israel should be halted in their desire to retrieve their hostages and establish a Hamas free area since Hamas has stated that they intend to annihilate the Jewish people from the face of the earth. South Africa did not put it that way but that is how I interpret their petition because basically that is what Israel is doing; trying to get their people back. Words said in a moment of deep tragedy can be overlooked just as I tend to ignore what Gazans say these days against Israel when they are filmed in Gaza. I am trusting that there are enough Godly people there in Gaza to build a nation.

I believe in the International Court of Justice and I think they ruled well with regard to protection of the children of Gaza. The adults are another case as they knew and were complicit in the events of the 7th of October (that country is much too small for people not to be aware of what was happening and the terrorists did not dig all those tunnels by themselves for sure!) and I do see them as combatants mostly because in my home country of Canada Palestinians took to the streets to cheer Hamas for their barbaric hedonistic sexual and brutal murder of innocents in Israel including babies and children. They chanted their genocidal desire to rid the country of Israel of its inhabitants and worldwide as well (and they are much more disgusting because they cheer it on but wait on the sidelines to take over what is not theirs - namely Israel). Personally I think the next step is to go to the courts and demand that this is hate language and can not be repeated anywhere in this country; not in our schools, not on our streets not anywhere and that any Palestinian be removed from a position where they are teaching our children or even working with people unless it is proven that they have not been part of and do not support this genocidal war against Israel. 

What will Israel do? Basically the court has not actually said anything different from what the Americans have been saying to the Israelis ever since the brutal barbaric massacre occurred against the Israeli peoples and that same genocidal refrain continues against Israel and is constantly reiterated by Hamas and its sycophants. The court did not condemn Hamas and I feel that was perhaps understandable as they are not a nation state (do not give them any more significance then the terrorists that they are) they are simply disgusting terrorists that the Gazan people have permitted to exist in their country and it is Hamas that has taken them down this road to destruction. But the children must be protected; too many of them are dying. Put a price on the backs of all these complicit people and let the bounty hunters have their day; best way to handle all of this. Some people love to do this line of work and when they are criminals like Hamas who can possibly care except their sycophants whom God hates because they do not follow the commandments brought to us by Moses.

It is absolutely imperative that we protect the 600,000 plus Jewish people in our country. They come first because their homeland is threatened forever by Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran terrorists. If Palestinians can not control their language and their actions here then they should go and find somewhere else to live. Their actions here are reprehensible and unacceptable in a democratic society. There is no right to protest when that includes genocidal comments of any sort. 

I remember when the hunt for Nazis died down in the early 50s and people moved on because that is what people do after a war. They simply pick up the pieces, rebuild and their lives move on and not thinking about the past is easier than thinking about it. But, and I praise God for that, the State of Israel pursued every Nazi either to their grave or arrested them/eliminated them from the life of the world. I cheered every one that they captured or eliminated. Forever emblazoned in my mind are the pictures of the Concentration Camps on the newsreels and as a child I could only think death to all Nazis; Israel fulfilled that desire that I had. No one has the right to commit genocide purposefully and that includes Hamas; they deserve to die and I hope that every one of the terrorists who took part in the 7th October dies the cruel death which they dealt out to babies, children, women and men that day. Hamas continues to hold 100 plus people hostage (babies, children, women and men) in inhumane conditions without supervision by the International Red Cross, without medicines, without sufficient food and without water in sub-human conditions in Gaza. Hamas terrorists are no longer human because they do not behave as humans are expected to behave.

But I will not judge children; they have the opportunity to do better and that is one of the many reasons we have an International Court of Justice. We have to give them that opportunity and help them along the path of life. We need to rebuild Gaza without Hamas - God would want that; he wants his children safe and Hamas makes them unsafe because they preach genocide against the Jewish people. When all is said and done Israel has the right to defend itself. Personally I like the idea of bounty hunters annihilating Hamas and their sycophants. There are lots of people in the world who need money and would do that (even their own).

I must admit to being shocked that anyone Indigenous would support Hamas. Hamas and Palestinians are exactly what some Indigenous people think with regard to the settlers to this continent.  Hamas/supporting Palestinians want to steal the land that belongs to the Jewish people who have thousands of years of history on that land. It is a strange thing for Indigenous people to support these satanistic genocidal peoples Hamas and those who support Hamas. Personally I do support the Indigenous peoples and the treaties that were signed with them but any First peoples supporting this genocidal destruction of Israel does not fit in with the principle passed by the United Nations that First peoples have rights. The Palestinians are colonials and Hamas are just terrorists who believe that only people born Muslim should survive in this world. Aboriginals supporting Palestinians/Hamas! you support your own destruction!


The Devon Muster Rolls 1569

 The Devon Muster Rolls 1569 have also provided an insight into the Pencombe/Pincombe/Pynkeham family in the North Devon area in 1569. The expected people were found in North Molton, South Molton, and East Buckland. Missing were Pynkeham at Tawstock, Pencombe at Kings Nympton, and Pencombe at Bideford. Thomas at  East Buckland has died, William Pencombe at North Molton has died. I will continue working on the missing Tawton, Kings Nympton and Bideford people. They were on the Devon Lay Subsidy Rolls of 1543-45. There are 25 missing parishes in Devon on the Muster Rolls and 15 are noted in the Index. I need to look for these three parishes at my next Pencombe day which will be Saturday.This is finishing up the second chapter and I also started into the third chapter on the Pencombe family of Herefordshire. 

Today will be a Blake day and I am working on the early history of Andover. Thus far I have discovered that in Roman times the closest village to present day Andover was Leucomagus which was located on present day Eastanton Manor Farm and on the east side of A343 (Newbury Road between Viking Way and Smannel Road). At the time of the Norman Conquest in 1066 Andover was a thriving community. I will continue looking at some of the interesting archaeological papers on the Andover area (and my mind will also be looking for Upper Clatford where my grandfather was born and three generations of his family before that with the next generation back, Joseph, being from Andover). 

Freezing rain and I did make a path down to the road with de-icer. More freezing rain today and I have just a small amount of paper so may not put that out today. Time will tell. 

Getting into a routine with the two books and I think it is a really good idea to work on both of them. The same style. Reviewing general information at the beginning. Then into the furtherest back generation and I shall work forward into time. I will principally follow the surname lines but there is some good information on some of the female lines coming down which I will include. Again this will be a one-name study so the surname predominates. 

Edward considered writing a book but the book that was already published on the Kip/Kipp family in America that descended from the Kip family of New Amsterdam/New York was he felt adequate and he added to it with his Kip family tree on his website and he also put up a tree on World Connect. I asked if he would like to write his story a few years before he died but he said not just yet. The last six months or so before he passed I did collect some material and will work on that but it is still too soon in my mind. I think one needs time to sort one's life and at the moment this material I have collected on Pincombe and Blake has waited quite a while to be written so will work on these two first although I may come to a time when I think it is the moment to write down what Edward told me about his life both in the last six months (all typed) and what I gleaned from his life before that time by our 54.5 years of marriage, the time that we knew each other before marriage and what was said to me by the people that we visited in his home town area when we were first married and had a car. He loved those visits with the people of his childhood and I found it interesting listening to the thoughts of this elderly group of people in the 60s and 70 before we moved here. Older people can be quite fascinating actually; they have lived their entire lives and have opinions and thoughts and it is a luxury to listen to them in terms of equating how life flows from one generation to the next. I am unlike the people we visited and Edward himself as I discovered a slightly different person when he was with these people he knew so well in his childhood having worked for them since he was thirteen years of age and knowing them before as friends of his grandfathers. That was the sociable side of him that I saw once again when he met up with his (perhaps third cousin not sure) cousin Gordon Riddle here and they enjoyed that time together going to the Ontario Genealogical Society. Then Edward became Treasurer of Orleans United Church and again some common time together with someone from his area that shared his background of being on farms and living in the country. Myself, I had very little in common with all of that and just let them have their time together. Edward enjoyed it and it set him on a different path perhaps than what he might have taken enjoying the Ontario Genealogical Society Ottawa Branch, enjoying singing in the Choir at Orleans United Church and being treasurer for nearly ten years, taking his children to the church of his youth which was his desire and of course working. I still remember when he decided to learn to downhill ski and he and the girls went off for lessons and enjoying the slopes. They had a great time for maybe four or five years every Saturday during the winter and he was 50 years old when he started to do that. He asked me to come but I said why don't I proofread/copyedit my work while you three go and then we can play board games when you return. Always the loner but also part of the family but I did treasure those quiet moments for sure working away on the scientific papers proofreading and other types of copyediting/proofreading for the commercial printers for whom I worked whilst I worked at home all those years. I gave up going back to do my masters when my youngest was born and have absolutely no regrets on that. It was a good plan to return to school but life does throw curve balls sometimes and I just went with the flow. I was sorry that I had to back out on that commitment but did carry on with the marking for a year for the professor for whom I was going to work. Children must always come first and my youngest did need my 100% attention due to medical issues at that time which pretty much occupied me for the next few years although I continued to proofread and copyedit at home. Fortunately the Church hired a secretary freeing me up from that volunteer secretary position I had occupied for quite a while. I did teach Sunday School to two year olds and then three year olds for a while when my youngest was that age and then took on the position of purchasing for Sunday School since I had to go out to pick up my work I felt that I could do that little bit for God along the way. (I think people found my two year old class strange but children are quite capable of siting in a spot and listening and following along with stories and they love it. Of course the first few weeks are a bit wild but soon settle down and it is good for children to be capable of managing themselves and staying in a circle. But I am from a large family and my ideas are different for sure.) I also helped run Bible Studies but my heart was in the Anglican Church and as my children grew (and I went to early Church at the local Anglican Church) and then back to work I took on World Day of Prayer for a few years which was a fabulous time for me meeting with other like minded people through the year as we prepared for World Day of Prayer. Now I do Church online and read my service from my own Church that comes every Friday. I must get back to that more regularly though as I have been tempted away by these books.

The day begins and I have a number of ideas on how to proceed with the discussion on Andover and I will likely include a small section on Upper Clatford since that was my grandfather's beloved village of his childhood. His grandmother Blake lived next door to him in a set of townhouses called Waterloo Terrace and, unless I am mistaken, this group of houses still exist in Upper Clatford along the main road opposite Andover but Andover not actually visible as there is a large area of trees. Mind you that was 2008 and since then there has been a huge installation in this area of solar panel "farms" harvesting the energy of the sun for the people of the British Isles. That we noted in 2016 when we were returning to London from our trip around the British Isles beginning in London and then on to Scotland, over to the Orkney Islands, return to Scotland and then Northern Ireland and into the Republic of Ireland then back into Wales and down into Somerset, then Devon and then Cornwall and the return through Devon into Dorset and up to Stonehenge in Wiltshire then back through Andover to London. A marvelous trip actually and highly recommend it. 

The day awaits and teatime.



Thursday, January 25, 2024

Travel to North Molton

Over a few years I have corresponded with Pincombe descendants who are now planning a trip back to Devon specifically to see the North Molton area where the Pyncombe first appeared with John Lord Zouch at the beginning of the reign of King Henry VII according to the Visitation of Devon 1620. They also asked about visiting the National Archives but wondered if it was mostly online. To the best of my knowledge the amount online represents perhaps 5% of the total holdings of the National Archives. When we visited the National Archives at Kew  several times back in 2008, 2010, 2013 I imaged about 200 documents that are solely on the Pincombe family in the times pre-Parish Registers and I did not do all of them for sure. There is far more to view. 

Spent the day working on the early history of North Molton looking at the Norman period, the Roman Period and back into the Celtic period and further back into the Mesolithic and Neolithic. There does appear according to an excellent website on archaeology some residency in the North Molton area way back into the Stone Age.  

https://www.archiuk.com/

 I believe that is all the time I will spend on this chapter since the intent was simply to look at the area over a long period of time. Can I understand why unknown Pyncombe accompanied John Lord Zouch to North Molton. Given that land was received by the Pyncombe family at North Molton I suspect that Lord Zouch was accompanied by Pyncombe perhaps at the request of the King to return to his relative's home in North Devon and stay there for a period of time. By 1489 the attainment of Lord Zouch was lifted although the return of some of his lands did not occur until 1495 but likely only because his mother was related to the wife of the King. I will leave it to others to dissuade me of this notion and will continue looking through the Calendar of Patent Rolls for Henry VII.

Although it might be possible to locate the areas where the families were present on the 1524-27 Lay Subsidy it doesn't really aid me in my pursuit of information on the descendancy of the Pincombe family in Devon as they moved out from North Molton which is the aim of this particular book. 

I will move on now to the Pencombe family in Herefordshire and see what I am able to learn. 

It looks like some freezing rain did come down last night so I shall put de-icing on the porch, patio and laneway to help that to melt away. My outdoor project for the day and it is supposed to be environmentally friendly de-icer. I am not much of an outdoor person especially not inclined to be out in the sun a great deal. One of the things to watch for with cataracts is apparently halos around lights - I have always seen halos around lights; perhaps a feature of my strabismus/astigmatism/shape of cornea - no ideas on that for sure. For someone very interested in science I have always had limited interest in the medical definitions of my eyes. So long as I can see out of them I am not that interested in what is wrong with them. I tend to see them as a gift of God and he had his reasons for making them the way that he did and leave it at that. We are what we are but if that isn't following the rules of God the best that we can then we should change but if we follow God's laws then we are doing what He wanted. And the most important of all was to Love God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength and love our neighbour as ourself. If everyone did that we would have peace. When I see all the kindness that so many in Israel displayed towards the Palestinians by helping them, employing them and healing them in their hospitals I am and continue to be thoroughly disgusted by the events of the 7th of October last year. Animals behave better; they only kill to exist; they do not commit wanton brutal barbaric murder. 

 Another beautiful day in our winter wonderland where we finally had a goodly amount of snow. The Skating Rink on the Rideau Canal opened and people had fun I am sure going back and forth. When we first moved here we would skate on the Canal Saturday morning and Ski on the trails on Sunday afternoon. Our oldest daughter was on both skis and skates at the age of 18 months and she loved it all; our youngest as well. 

Lots of work for today and lots of exercise. The day has arisen. Praise be to God. 

Time for tea.

 

 



Wednesday, January 24, 2024

Cleaning accomplished once again

 I will clock my life by my routine I rather think and yet I am not really a routine person but do like things to be orderly if possible. But I can also live with chaos although it is perhaps not the preferred state for many. At the moment I am working on my two books although yesterday no accomplishment on Pencombe I was too busy cleaning. 

I think I will make today a Pencombe day and there are still three days left in the week after that so should work well just a tiny bit out of synch. I am still looking at North Molton to see what I can discover about the village in that time period when Pencombe was arriving with la Zouch just after the reign of Henry VII begins in 1485. I have ordered one document and will hear about that in the next few weeks or sooner depending on their workload. I will continue seeking out information on the Pencombe family of Herefordshire because that is the next planned chapter. So the day is planned. 

I realized after I got off the phone yesterday dealing with the cataract business that I had been offered an appointment in March but we didn't clarify my telephone number so will investigate that. Not sure what happened to the secretary that called me in December to offer me an appointment to see the ophthalmologist with respect to the cataract surgery but no surgery until too late in January for my care but I am assuming he is still the secretary so will give him a day or so to recover from whatever kept him from his task yesterday and call back to verify the numbers. This is a private health care company I think and I am opposed to private health care in Canada but the public system did not work very well because of my need for 100% care perhaps for only a couple of days at most but one does have to take care of oneself it would appear to protect that time that works best. If I never get cataract surgery then so be it. My eyes are still working quite well actually although I do note that my distant vision is perhaps not quite as strong as it was in terms of recognizing birds at 20 metres away unless they are large enough (I can of course recognize them with binoculars). But in terms of doing my work no problems. We will see how this goes. If it doesn't work out I will wait until next January and go to an optometrist and get referred as that appears to be the only way to acquire an ophthalmologist these days for routine care. Then I can move forward once again with my cataract surgery. I think I would prefer the Montfort or the Riverside at this stage as they have large cataract clinics. But I know my daughters would like me to get this done so we will give it a go. But I do dislike the idea of private care although I certainly spent the first twenty years of life with private care being the only way here and it worked well at the time except there was a part of society that did not have good health care and that can be dangerous for all of us - COVID is a good example. I have tried to stay in the public system but it is overloaded and I do want answers to my questions (I really just have the one question - does the more advanced lens present problems for my non-working eye?). It does really just bring me to the necessity to hire our own students first and it is absolutely paramount in medicine; no foreign doctors who have not fully retrained here except perhaps our own students who had to go to foreign countries to get into medical school; a good oral examination would probably determine if they are as well trained as they are here. If they do not know the answer to my question (this is a new lens and I can understand that I do have a lot of experience in research but do not choose to spend hours reading the Ophthalmology literature that may or may not have the answer but I am not a guinea pig type for this sort of life changing experience). I would choose the simple lens obviously I do not want headache caused by an eye suddenly deciding to try to work after 78 plus years of doing nothing basically. If my eyes are tired then the strabismus makes itself apparent very quickly and I do use my eyes a lot. My father's eyes were the same as mine are and he had excellent luck with his cataract surgery fourty years ago! He could still do his crossword puzzles in the newspaper; I just want the same ability actually! except I am transcribing ancient documents although cross word puzzles are something that I also do on occasion if I do not have my computer.

Of course I am not actually working; this is my retirement. My retirement began in January 2008 and our first trip together to the British Isles was in April of that year. What a fabulous trip it was actually. We met up first with my cousins (Blake) and did a lovely couple of days of travel in southern England to visit our mutual ancestral areas and a trip to the Atlantic which was pretty much solely my ancestors on my mother's side but we came back by way of Beamister where my cousin had taught for many years at a school for boys with learning difficulties. He wanted to show that to me and we discovered the gravestone of Edward's 9x great grandparents who had left from Weymouth to go to the American Colonies in the early 1630s. That was truly an occasion for Edward as he had not thought to see anything of his rather small percentage of English ancestors (all Dissenters about 5% of his ethnicity) who had come to the American colonies in the 1630s/1640s. As it turned out we had a number of such events throughout our travels much to his surprise I think as his ancestry is primarily Dutch/German/French to New Amsterdam (now New York) and other parts of New Holland (including Albany). These ancestors came in the 1620s to America.

So another work day but I begin my work with my Latin lessons and I am getting perhaps 45 minutes to an hour a day of both new lessons and practice. It is working very well and I shall transcribe Robert Blake's will (1521) on the next Blake day. It is primarily in Latin with one sentence in English at the end where he gives his land at Enham to his son Richard (I think perhaps he is his oldest son).Robert also has a son Thomas (and I need to verify Andrew and William as being his sons). It is interesting that it is Richard at Enham because the widow Jone Blake in her will (1527) does not name her husband other than Mr Blake but she is at Enham. No where does one find that the father of her children Robert, Nicholas and Elizabeth is named Richard but it does seem like a step not too far to say that the Jone Blake, widow at Enham was likely married to Richard Blake who inherited his father Robert's farm at Enham in 1521 and her will is 1527 and Richard's will is 1522 and he mentions his brother Thomas). Because of the charts that have been produced for this Blake family I am extra cautious as I work my way through all of this material. 

Must get my tea, usually I do that before I write my blog. On to the day. 

While I prepared my tea I got to thinking about the public health system. I am a great believer in it actually. I wasn't at the beginning back in the 60s when Public Health Care first came in. But an encounter on my way home from working at the  hospital chanced my meeting a young woman and her son. The son needed medical care for his foot and was limping; he was a little sweetheart for sure. Children should not be wandering around needing health care and that sold me on the public system. Public and private can not operate in the same hospitals and we are not building private hospitals and if they go under if built they must be donated back to the system  - we should not buy them and nor should anyone outside the country be able to buy it. If that sounds like socialism so be it but I think of health care like fire protection - absolutely necessary and we need to find a way to provide it that works (but there is also a responsibility not to abuse the system; take care of yourselves to limit the need). I did work in the hospital before retiring for twelve years and I think the system can work it just needs some tweaking to increase the presence of family doctors in the system during this time of the baby boomers aging. Myself I hardly ever go to a doctor but I do have the luxury of a lot of training by my godmother (an excellent nurse) via my mother and, knock wood, good health. One would not have anticipated that I would have such good health in my old age but I do take care of myself; I neither drink nor smoke and other than drinking a limited amount of red wine until I heard Ed's diagnosis very little alcohol in my life. I occasionally do have wine still but it is rare.I am tight with money and spending it on luxury items is not really my way although did enjoy the trips that we took but I had saved my money through the years to do that traveling. It was persuading Edward to fly across the ocean. It took actually 38 years to persuade him; he was a stubborn person for sure. So my good health thus far is a product of good eating (I seldom indulge in foods that are less healthy), no smoking, no drinking and lots of exercise. But it does surprise me because the prognosis when I was 30 was not good. As the doctor said I must rest and rest a good deal to survive. He was right. When the baby slept so did I! On to the day; lots to do these books will not write themselves.

Latin first.

Tuesday, January 23, 2024

Appointment for review of my cataract surgery and some testing

I have an appointment in late March to look at my cataract surgery. I am very optimistic that all of this will go  just like my colonscopy procedure - simple. Three phone calls or whatever is needed and all done. I guess it might be a few more than three because it is actually two surgeries. But the ophthalmologist does both routine and surgery so that is a great step forward because I let go of my ophthalmologist when I was in my early 50s because he was going into strictly surgery and downsizing. I had been looked after by an ophthalmologist since I was three months old up until that time (just two actually one in my hometown Dr Dyson and one here Dr Sullivan). I have worn glasses since I was a year old. I thought, no problem, I will just go to an optometrist. My eyes didn't change from one visit to the next just my lenses were scratched so I needed new glasses about every two years. At the same time I switched to plastic lenses actually mostly because it was going to take ages to get the glass ones. I think I may have been the last person on the planet who went to plastic from glass lenses in the 1990s. My mother actually said I should stay with an ophthalmologist because I would need cataract surgery one day but I actually believed in my 50s that I would be lucky to survive to 70 so really didn't need to worry about that. Well here I am at 78 plus and needing cataract surgery. Anyway all set up for an appointment in late March so that is a good feeling as my family doctor was not able to get another opthalmologist to take me on. So on a whim I called to see if the ophthalmologist that I was referred to for the surgery was also a regular ophthalmologist as well as a surgeon and he is. This way I could hopefully see him every two years for a checkup on my eyes as I do use them a great deal especially for transcription of the ancient documents that I do. I have strabismus in both eyes and astigmatism in both eyes; there is something weird about my corneas as well which I can not remember and my one eye doesn't actually do anything although there is some sight but according to Motor Vehicle I am legally blind in that eye. I expect to lose my licence when I am 80; time will tell. My extra eye care is my only medical need that my family doctor isn't trained in. Otherwise a family doctor for all my care is great for me; I really do not want to spend a lot of time going to specialists and they are in high demand these days so that is good. Edward went to so many and they all helped him he just had a lot of issues unfortunately. I do think they gave him another ten years of life that he got to spend with his grandsons - I will always remember that night in emergency when I really thought we might lose him back in 2011 before his first grandson was born. A pacemaker gave him back his ability to manage once again. At that time I took over things like the heavy gardening so that he could still enjoy his garden without working so hard and pretty much stopped doing most things I was doing to help him. But other issues arose over the years which he bravely struggled against but life moved on without him sadly especially for his daughters and grandsons who had him really such a short time in their lives. He had so much to give to them for sure. For my daughters he was their comfortable rock I would say; they were very close to him.


Cleaning accomplished and working on Andover history

 Cleaning all accomplished for the basement and today it is the main floor and the top floor so not a lot of work going to happen on the Pencombe book today. 

I have been sending my Siderfin Book revision to various repositories and it is up on the Guild of one-name Studies site (visible to members only) as well as my website and the blog. I will keep sending it in to repositories but it likely, if accepted as an online item, takes a while to have it online. Perhaps someone will take up the Siderfin one-name Study once again. Time does not permit me to do that at the moment and being a 3x great grandparent I do not see that happening for quite a while.

I often think about Edward telling me that Gordon Riddle had asked him to go to the Ontario Genealogical Society Ottawa Branch meeting way back in the early 1980s. He was quite pleased and likely he did not know it existed before he asked him. I would never have dreamed that Edward would become so taken with that and devote eventually most of his spare time to it. I think that Gordon was perhaps going there at the time (I did see a copy of one of his genealogy articles in the library there) and they did go together for a while (no idea how long, life was busy as I was working on various items, then had a small baby plus my eight year old, and was volunteer secretary at Edward's Orleans United Church plus helping him with Edward's Treasurer duties there, I helped one day a week at school teaching Remedial English to French Immersion students (they were mostly boys around ten years old I think, they did very well over the three months that I worked with them)). So remembering precisely when they went and how long is dicey. But they used to have long chats after downstairs as they went through all of Edward's stuff on the Kipp family. I see that Gordon's paper online mentions the Kipp family which was how I came across it. Edward had a couple of strong aims in his life when I first knew him: he wanted to be a scientist, he wanted to be like his father who had been very active in his Church as an Elder and Treasurer, he wanted to be a father, he wanted to sing in the Choir and he wanted to trace his Kipp family lines (his mother asked him to trace her side as well). Edward did like going to all these things - Choir Practice at Orleans United, the Ontario Genealogical Society (now Ontario Ancestors), the United Empire Loyalist Association and then his French classes twice a week. My when I write it all down I wonder if he was ever here in the evenings! He actually read stories most days to the girls after dinner which they loved. He was very sociable (at least I thought so but probably I am not the best judge of people being sociable!) and he always knew I wasn't and was happier just staying home with my interesting books or scientific articles or knitting or sewing. I think people are happier if they are doing the things that they like (and I always supported him doing the things that he liked).  I still find it strange that I am so busy writing all of these Surname Books now. Never would have dreamed that I would do that. But I am sure my grandfather and mother are very pleased as it was what they both wanted to do but did not have time to do so.

Yesterday was quite successful working on Andover as I read through archaeology papers and reviewed the Norman period in that area. There are a lot of sites actually and a number of papers viewable these days. I discovered that the Roman village of Leucomagus was 3.2 km NNE of the present day town centre of Andover and that would place it at the far side of Knights Enham and interestingly enough on the land that belonged to Eastanton Manor Farm as well as on the east side of A343 (Newbury Road between Viking Way and Smannel Road). I think that Eastanton Manor Farm is Eastontown  where William Blake lived in the mid 1540s on and dated his will there in 1582. Some interesting material on line mentioning William's father Nicholas (left his will when he was located at Old Hall, Enham in 1547). It is mentioned that Nicholas farmed the Lammas Lands in the Enham area. Lammas Lands I discovered were owned by the hereditary Burgess from Candlemas (2 Feb) to Lammas Day (1 Aug) and used for growing various foodstuff. The fences were removed after the 1st of August and the land was used for anyone in the area to pasture their animals. 

There are a number of archaeological sites (mostly burials during the Anglo-Saxon times) that are known as well in this area. 

I will continue my push back before the Roman times if I am able. But it does appear that there was not a village called Andover until later after the Romans left. 

Latin Lessons finished for the morning; likely another session later in the day, drinking my tea and enjoying a fresh new day. Robert Blake's will (1521) is in Latin and perhaps next weekend I will re-transcribe it just to see if I made any mistakes with my rudimentary latin of a few years ago. I intend to keep the Latin training up whilst I am working away on these books as many of the records I wish to look at are in Latin. I also want to take the French lessons on duolingo (I did take French at High School and University (had to take one course to finish my degree) along with German at University (offered to Honours Science students as Scientific German)) in the Fall in preparation for returning to the families of my son-in-law who were very early to New France or Quebec as it is called. I would like to re find my spoken French and improve on it plus it makes it easier to look at the documents in French to review that. When one contemplates the early settlers coming to North America they were lucky to be greeted warmly by the First Peoples. Certainly the French colonials had a lot of help from them and many many French Canadian families have First Nations peoples in their trees. I think it must be rather exciting to know that you have family lines that reach far back into the early history of peoples on this continent and on the continent that you left. I will be forever English in heritage but Canadian in citizenship but I am proud of my ancestors too.

Discovering that there is one match in the public view for the yDNA of this English Blake line from which I descend that is Irish is amazing really. Since my brother was probably around ten and I around seven when Grandpa saw the book about the Irish Blake family (and this was likely the Richard Caddell family of Galway that took the name Blake since the Blake family in the mid 1800s in London, Ontario was descendant of that family (our line did not arrive until 1913)) I think he probably said this was not our Blake line which it is not. But I am beginning to wonder if we are both remembering that he said he was of the Andover, Hampshire, England area and also an Irish background. I saw the emphasis on Andover but I was pretty young and he being older noted that he said both. We certainly had some interesting conversations about yDNA as well as the atDNA and mtDNA. He loved hearing about it and I do miss him still. I bought him a tablet so that he could see more of the results that I was sending to him. Time will tell if that interesting person, Richard Blake, who arrived in Salisbury in the 1420s came on to the Andover area and named his son Robert. Robert did name his son Richard as mentioned in his will along with his other sons Thomas, Andrew and William although I want to re-read the will to see if all three of these were sons - Thomas definitely was. I think I live far in the past in my mind although definitely do know what is happening in the present. Chromo2 though does find fifteen matches including my brother in their anonymized database - so there are others like him from or in the British Isles. Chromo2 was a pricey test but well worth it with 15,000 SNPS tested.

Breakfast and hungry as usual. I made Chicken Stew and have had that for two days and two more days to go. It does make such a huge pot and I like not having to cook every day. Edward loved to cook as he discovered when I went back to work outside the home. I was the last one home and he just took that on organizing the girls to help him and they did the grocery shopping. It was lovely. I just meandered through life working away those last twelve years and not really talking to anyone outside of the house except people at work and at the meetings that Edward took me too although I did avoid that. I do find dealing with people to be a nightmare most times. But not always! Prayers for the Jewish people and prayers for the Ukrainian people; prayers that the Palestinian people eliminate Hamas from their presence and stop trying to annihilate the Jewish people (for all of my life's memory that has been the case; Palestinians killing Jews; it must stop). The Jewish people have the right to defend themselves. Release the Hostages Hamas and get out of Gaza. Hamas has caused the death of 25 thousand plus Palestinian people in Gaza at this time and more than a thousand in Israel.

 

Monday, January 22, 2024

Shared Workaholic tendency and Monday morning

Edward and I share a workaholic tendency although he is more prone to being sociable than I ever was. For me, as a child, being sociable was what my mother requested of me and as an adult I have avoided social experiences in as much as possible. I love to read and work away at things although when my children were small I couldn't always do that and didn't as they came first. Learned that from my mother as well. But as luck would have it my children were quite amenable to an organized day so that by the time they were three they would sit beside me and do "their work" as they called it. The coffee breaks were longer for them for sure and generally involved a long walk to have a look at the world and discover birds, trees, plants along the way or watch favourite movies. I did take the girls to play group and my older daughter enjoyed it more perhaps because she was an only child for such a long time but my younger daughter on her first day there quietly confided to me that she would rather be at home working and we never went back! I do think we are all workaholics in this family as Edward has many projects but he put everything together for his various projects and passed them on before and during COVID and published everything that he wanted published. 

I am busy writing all of these books I have thought about since I ventured into Surname Studies back in 2003 and mostly when DNA became the driver of my genealogical pursuits around 2005 after the Pincombe Profile was completed. George DeKay would be amazed to see the result of his persuading me to write the Pincombe Profile for sure. The Siderfin book revised and published. Blake and Pencombe books in the starting phases. Buller book on the back burner. Rawlings being thought about occasionally but one of my third cousins in Australia has written up quite a bit on the Rawlings. Then I get back another generation and I have Knight (Winterbourne villages, Dorset), Cotterill (Kimpton, Hampshire it appears but not conclusive on the surname)?, Gray (Holme on the Wolds, East Riding of Yorkshire), Taylor (Birmingham family, shoe/boot maker - a small company, was contacted by a descendant which was interesting). Would I ever take up books on these four lines? The Gray is written up by my cousin George DeKay but  he wanted to revise and update it and I said I would help him if he wanted but he passed away and COVID did rather get in the way of that. That would mean a revise and update of his book but I wouldn't do all the families that  he did without other contributors - I do not know most of them actually. For me it would be a Gray-Routledge book perhaps looking at the descendants of the Routledge family here plus my research back in Bewcastle. My cousin though has a lot of work on line for the family beyond Bewcastle back into the Highlands of Scotland. There have been books on the various Knight families and I rather think I would need to be on the spot to do that one as there are a lot of Knight families and the same goes for Taylor I expect. The next generation (2x great grandparents - would be Farmer (Collingbourne Kingston, Wiltshire), Butt (Winterbourne villages, Dorset), Sherwood (Cotterill married Sherwood at Kimpton)??, Lywood (there is a one name study for Lywood and Warwick Lywood has done great work for sure), Rew (same areas  as Siderfin, have done some work on this line because of the Siderfin book and just interest), Routledge (my cousin (perhaps 7th) Thomas Routledge is doing a wonderful job with this family in England), Welch (huge family although I have traced my line back into Rugley Staffordshire several generations) and Roberts (Bickenhill, Warwickshire for a couple of generations before Birmingham). 

Perhaps one can go to far back! I think at this point (3x great grandparents) I would become selective and pick some of the unusual 4th great grandparents and further back surnames and work on them - Cheatle (Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire), Croxall (Bickenhill, Warwickshire), Lawley (Wellington, Shropshire), Hemsley (Southwark, Surrey), Sproxton (Hutton Cranswick, East Riding of Yorkshire), Charlie/Charly (Combe Martin, Devon) and the list keeps going back! But there is just one lifetime for each of us and we do what we get done for sure. I did learn that from Edward who enjoyed the OGS now Ontario Ancestors Ottawa Branch so very much. He never really missed a meeting all those years before COVID taking me along after he got tired and his friend became ill and he found the drive home long. He loved being able to go and do the things he wanted to do anytime that he wanted knowing I was quite content that he enjoy his life. I loved all that precious time at home after I retired working away on Surname Studies which in itself is rather amazing being very late to arrive at an interest in such things. His greatest regret was not traveling across the ocean much much earlier - like when I proposed we backpack around the British Isles and Europe after he finished his PhD in 1970. It would have been fun for sure.

On to the day. This is basement cleaning day and today work on the Blake book - looking at Andover and area. 

Sunday, January 21, 2024

Small error in the download site at the top of the Blogger page and it is fixed

 I had an extra space in the download URL at the top of the blog page but it is now fixed. 

Yesterday was a good day on the Pencombe book looking at North Molton and what I can find out about the village in the time period of 1480s to the 1500s when the Pencombe family was moving out of North Molton to South Molton and then later to Bishops Nympton (my line), Barnstaple/Bideford.

Sunday and another glorious God's Day. The human race as we know it, Homo sapiens, has predominantly worshiped the same God for thousands of years although we have diverged from a singleton Abrahamic religion with Judaism, Christianity and Islam being the three of which I have knowledge. I do not know the other religions of the world and how they practise their faith and at 78 plus I am probably not going to do that. What is important to me is that God is remembered every minute of the day and night. Our lives should centre around God/Great Spirit and what He has asked of us. The Ten Commandments were clearly set out. We are intelligent enough to follow them; we just need to find the will to follow them and the world will be a better place. Mother Nature deserves our support to help to maintain the world.

Interesting articles on exercise lately. I was thinking back on my own life and exercise has always been important to me. Working at home made it much easier to keep my exercise up with a bike ride or walk around the large block (about 2 km) every day just as a break in the day (the ride when my children were in school and the walk when they were with me until they could ride their bicycles or they rode behind me on the bicycle). But why do I still do 150 minutes of exercise per day? When I was ten our family doctor told me that I should walk a mile every day. He didn't say why and at ten I didn't ask. I preferred the visit to the doctor to be as quick as possible and didn't ask any questions. Later in life when we moved here the family doctor told me that I had a heart murmur. At that point I should probably have been referred for assessment but I didn't say anything because once again I prefer not to spend a lot of time with medical appointments if I can avoid it. I think I was 33 years of age at that time and very physically fit. That has generally been the state of my health through the years except when I wasn't but then I was striving to become physically fit. Why is that? I think perhaps some humans are just made that way. Part of my inspiration for running was my great grandfather used to run from Goodworth Clatford to Upper Clatford every day to visit the graves of his parents and then back again. It is about 1.5 kilometres I think so just a nice run. My grandfather told me that although by then grandpa was here in Canada and was learning that by letters. But I think it inspired him as he used to walk for miles every day where ever he had to go he would walk including visiting the grave of his wife which was a long walk for sure. So I have run for most of my life and continue to run fourty minutes a day and probably walk an hour a day (which probably doesn't get added into that 150 minutes of exercise actually). I have started to use the treadmill for walking as it does let you walk much quicker than just around the house. But the whole point of this paragraph was to stress that people do have to get exercise for all of their life. We owe it to God to take the best care of ourselves; to take care of the peoples of the world and to take expert care of the world itself. 

Another beautiful Sunday and the Bulletin for today is in my Inbox. I shall check to see if the Service is online as usual on Youtube after I eat my breakfast. The five hour delay is nice actually between the service somewhere in England and here. 

And it was amazingly at St Martin in the Fields in London near Trafalgar Square which we visited when we were there. My 2x Buller great grandparents (Henry Christopher Buller and Ann (Welch) Buller) went to that Church when they had their Butcher Shop in Convent Garden back in the 1830s/1840s but they also lived in Birmingham where they had a Butcher Shop as well. The desire to look at the Buller Family is often strong but Blake and Pincombe come first.  But I digress, the service was quite wonderful.

God bless.


Saturday, January 20, 2024

Blake book continuing and looking at the yDNA

 Another good day of work on the Blake book as I completed the yDNA of my brothers' samples. I had collected quite a bit through the years as I was involved with a couple of DNA projects for yDNA and in correspondence with people very involved in the defining of individual lines particularly the I2a group looking at the British Isles groups some of which were quite ancient to the Isles. I did discover a couple of new papers that I had missed one of which referred to my brother's sample as it stretches far back into early Britain but with more testing and advanced testing a couple of matches have shown up with the terminal SNP I-PH151. One located in southern England (our line) and one in Ireland. My brother and I had this constant conversation the last fifteen years of his life concerning exactly what our grandfather had said concerning the Blake line. He thought that Grandpa had said it was Irish and I distinctly remember him saying that they had lived in the Andover, Hampshire, England area for ever. I was only eight when Grandpa passed away and he was closer to eleven. But the latest Big Y chart shows it once again that two SNPS from the parent SNP and my brother's line went on to the one descendant SNP and most went on to the second descendant SNP. Since the YDNA line ends with my brothers it is most fortunate that my grandfather had a number of male cousins carrying the Blake surname who also had sons. Most of my cousins live in England with a few in Canada, a few in the United States, a few in South Africa and a few in Australia/New Zealand. I would say that better than 90% still live in the British Isles (some are in Scotland as well as England). The question is do I also have Irish? When the ethnicity results are read from the multi testing companies that we have all tested at some of us do have an interesting percentage of Irish (greater than 10%) but some of us do not. With five tested one gets an interesting display of results and matches that have proven to be most interesting particularly taken into DNA Painter. I did complete the yDNA chapter and moved on to the Chapter about Andover, Hampshire and area since that is where my line lived until my grandfather came to Canada bringing his wife and only child - my father. He came for ten years just to see the country I think partly. But the horrendous loss of male lives in particular during the First World War (he came in 1913 at nearly 40 years of age) resulted in the CNR asking him to stay longer and he did. Then six grandchildren enticed him to stay even longer. I think my grandmother dying here and buried here was another draw for him. His own parents were deceased and a number of his siblings had died and so he stayed much to the happiness of his grandchildren and myself as I spent hours listening to him talk about Upper Clatford and England. He did love his home country though. 

On to the Pencombe book today. I have not yet heard back about the document that I ordered but I am sure they are very busy. I have the abstract but would like to see the entire document and I am busy doing my Latin once again to be prepared for it to be in Latin as it is from the latter part of the 1300s. The Inquisition Postmortem for John Pencombe of Herefordshire. I am trying to see if there is a link between this Pencombe family of Pencombe Herefordshire and the Pencombe/Pincombe/Pyncombe/Pinkham family of North Molton, Devon. According to the Visitation of Devon 1620 ?Pyncombe arrived with la Zouch at North Molton at the beginning of the reign of King Henry VII (1485 +). I think now that he came with John Lord Zouch who was attainted to perhaps deliver him to his relatives at North Molton and in return he received property there. This Pencombe family left a number of documents in the early 1400s which I shall also purchase but need to review them to see exactly what might help me. I should have collected their documents when we were at Kew but I was only just starting to think about them. It is much cheaper to order them than for me to go there again!

I am finding this is working quite well having the two books ongoing at the same time. I find that the day when I am doing the one that thoughts about the other one can be quite contributing and I just jot them down for the next day. It is sort of like having a job where you are balancing a number of items at one time and to make the best use of your time it is better to schedule them so that you do not get bogged down for too long on one item!

Time for Latin and then breakfast.

Friday, January 19, 2024

Good advancement looking at North Molton

 Yesterday was a day of discovery with regard to North Molton. I actually discovered a two book thesis created by Norman Arnett in 1965 in England although the thesis itself is not online. But I did find one section looking at the population of North Molton had been reproduced in a journal. It was interesting to read through that. It would be wonderful if all of these theses could be put online as there is so much thought in them by young and eager researchers working towards advanced degrees. I may scan Edward's thesis and put it up online as his research is still ongoing around the world and he is still cited in people's work as his work was some of the initial study in his field. When I think of the waste of his entire class year that went on and did PhDs and did not receive tenured faculty positions in Canada I am truly concerned that we would educate so many students and then hire people who were from elsewhere outside the country - some for sure as diversity in research is important but not all - our own students should come first. If diversity is so great where are the Nobel prizes going; how many Canadian Nobel prizes are there in the history of Nobel prizes? Employment for our own first; diversity comes after that.

As I delve into the History of North Molton I am fortunate that British History Online has so much information available. An interesting Inquisition Postmortem for a John Pencombe was abstracted and he is the person of interest to me at the moment as I rather think it was his grandson or great grandson that came to North Molton with John Lord Zouch in the latter part of the 1480s although now I am wondering in what capacity he did come (I ordered the full document and it will come if possible to reproduce in a month or so but it is from one hundred years earlier; I just want a base to work with there in Herefordshire). Was he, the Pencombe who came, an adherent to the cause of Richard III or was he simply sent by the now King Henry VII to accompany the attainted John Lord Zouch to his relation's home in North Molton. Since the Pencombe family acquired lands in North Molton the latter does sound more likely. It could be that such a record exists in the files of King Henry VII. History is fascinating, I have always thought so actually but did not choose that as my study course, and pursuing it now in my old age is certainly a fascinating experience. 

I am gradually getting the revised Siderfin book to repositories so that it is available to researchers although the reads on my blog do indicate a large interest and this is not  a large family by any means as one would describe it as a small study. I am surprised not to have any comments with regard to my premises as I am sure lots of people have opinions but it is a very small family. It also takes time to disagree with a person.

Today is Blake research today and I  am still working on the yDNA chapter but also looking forward to talking about the early history of Andover, Hampshire, England although this family when it is first seen in the records is at Knights Enham which is now part of Andover. The John Blake that I noted in the early 1300s was a while ago and although I clearly remember seeing it I was a newbie at the time and did not properly record it. I always rely on my memory but these days I record in detail the source! Memory is good; but the written word much better.

Breakfast time is soon but a little more work first and I am charging up my Fitbit as it was running out. The Fitbit though needs replacing one of these days, it is over two years now since it was given to me and the newer ones are interesting. Does it control my life? not really as I can do without it but it is nice to have the 24 hour reflection on how I spent the day as exercise is important to me. I must start looking at the newer ones. 


One must identify only with God

Read an interesting article saying that people are identifying with the plight of the Palestinians news recorders in Gaza. One must get both sides of the picture I do think. We are made in God's image, we humans, and as such we must learn to live with God's laws. We must only identify with the life that God has granted us and follow the rules he has given to us. Greed must be gone from our world so that all can survive. Greed is the root of the difficulty in Gaza and it is Hamas that drives it. In these past twenty years with all of the money and goods that have been sent to Gaza the people living there should now have good governance and built up industry so that they are not dependent on handouts from the United Nations. They should have created food sources on their own land so that they are not relying on food trucked in. Why have they not? Hamas and apathy on the part of the Palestinians is responsible for that lack of industry/food and both Hamas and apathy must go. I agree with the American Senator Graham that no monies should be sent to Gaza until Hamas leaves. If Hamas left this would all be over and the people of Gaza, with the support of the world, can rebuild both their personal lives and create a country but they must do it without their hating the Israeli people that has gone on far too long. Anti-semitism must go from this world. They must get along with their other neighbour Egypt as they too have suffered. The suffering in Israel since the 7th October last has been horrific as well - their people are still held hostage in Gaza by Hamas. For me the attack by Hamas on Israel on the 7th of October was an eye opener. My sympathy for the Palestinian people evaporated on that day as this was done on their watch; I can not believe that they were ignorant of what was transpiring on their own turf with regards to the attack on Israel. That Palestinian people here cheered Hamas for that barbaric day will forever be a mark against them. I feel the same lack of sympathy now about the Russian people that they permit their governance to continue destroying Ukraine and its peoples. The Russian people must rise up against that and cast out the Nazi Satanists who are destroying both Ukraine and Russia. But I am an old woman at 78 plus years. It would be sad to see War decimate our world once again. We must rid ourselves of these satanistic people who are incapable of living a life free of greed. 

Another beautiful day on God's earth and it is minus 22 degrees celsius here although starting to warm up a little. The snow that fell is slowly powdering as the arctic air sucks out the moisture.  Will the longest ice skating rink in the world open? I wonder. Our lives have very much turned upside down these days with climate change and war but mostly greed - greed is everywhere really. It is one of the seven great sins for sure. Why am I not greedy? well in fact we all are greedy in some ways but fortunately many of us do try not to be.

May peace find a way in our world and sooner rather than later. Saudi Arabia has certainly come forward with an interesting proposal.

Thursday, January 18, 2024

Blogging the Siderfin Book is complete

With this morning's first post the Siderfin Book is now completed. I will not blog the index as it is in the download. 

The Blake and Pencombe books are moving along. I am into the Y-DNA in both and need to do some footnoting as I do not want to leave that to the end. I can see ways to make this whole task somewhat more streamlined. I will follow them. 

Lots of lovely snow to cover up the roots of the plants so that they survive another year. The winters in Canada can be so very cold but I do love the winter.  There is something about the pristine air, the fresh smell of snow and the bird life that survives in spite of it. The huge ravens swoop down to the bird feeder and completely occupy it as they enjoy the bird seed. They are a majestic bird but that is probably also because we do not see eagles or any of the other huge fantastic birds of Canada in our back yards or indeed in this area.  The flyways for the snows and others are to the east and the eagles are to the west. 

Today the Pencombe book and I will be looking at the history of North Molton just for a peak to see if I spot any interesting names prior to the late 1480s when Pencombe arrives. I might learn about the Zouch family at North Molton prior to this time. I had one interesting thought with regard to the Pencombe family. I wonder in what capacity they accompanied la Zouch to North Molton. He was, after all, attainted for his part in the Battle of Bosworth Field. I had though the Pencombe family had perhaps supported Richard III but I am beginning to wonder if they came in a somewhat different capacity. Not sure I would discover that without a good deal of searching into the early part of Henry VII's reign. Requested a page check on the Postmortem Inquisition for John de Pencombe 1393-1394. A summary is available but would like to read the entire document just in case there are other family details.

British History Online

524.     JOHN PENCOMBE, or DE PENCOMBE.
    Writ to the escheator to enquire as to the lands &c. held by the said John of the bishopric of Hereford and of others, the name and age of his heir, and who has been in possession of his lands since his death and received the issues. 10 July, 37 Edward III.
HEREFORD.     Inq. taken at Bromeyerd, 10 September, 37 Edward III.
    Bromyerd Foreyn. 12a. land, held of the bishopric of Hereford, lately vacant and in the king’s hand, by knight’s service and by payment to the bishop of 6d. an acre; and a messuage and a carucate of land, held in socage.
He held no lands &c. except of the bishopric.
He died on 13 November, 35 Edward III, about noon. Thomas his son, aged 14 1/2 years, is his heir.
Robert, vicar of the church of Bromyerd, has been in possession of the premises since his death and received the issues thereof, by what title the jurors cannot say.
(Underwritten.) Let a commitment thereof be made to Stephen de Eyncheton, (paying) for the wardship the extent, and for the marriage 20s.
    C. Edw. III. File 178. (25.)

So today I continue looking at North Molton. There was a Blake family there as well in the 1500s and I will pay attention to that material perhaps for the next Blake Newsletter. I have no ideas on the origin of that Blake family but again there were Blakes from Breton that came to both Cornwall and Devon in the early 1500s; there could be Blake coming from Somerset in the 1500s as well but it is perhaps a little early. However, I will make note of any information. 

My plans for the winter are all set now as I proceed with writing the books. I also plan to start writing the books for the Blake wills that I have transcribed and they will be by County so long as there is sufficient content to fill a file, I would think a minimum of 40 pages would be reasonable although some will be quite a bit longer. I will combine counties if there isn't sufficient detail to have 40 pages. I have the transcriptions and also a writeup when it was possible to find out details on the deceased individual and his/her family. 

Another glorious day in God's World. The hoar frost yesterday lasted until early afternoon before it lifted. I shoveled the laneway as there was just a small amount of snow (the company does the heavy falls!) and that was refreshing to be out in the minus 15. I had a hot cup of tea on my return. This snow will powder that is left and just sort of disappear. The windchills are quite low and one could freeze to death I suspect out in the open. Canada is a cold place for sure but a beautiful country. Thank you God for the goodness of the earth on which we dwell which you gave to us. 

It is good to see the UN Combat team cutting down the Youthis ability to interfere with the free travel of goods in the Red Sea.  Hatred for the Jewish people has to disappear from our world now. Release the hostages Hamas.


23d Blog Post - The Siderfin Family of West Somerset - Appendices 5 - 8

 

The Siderfin Family of West Somerset © 2023 by Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Appendix 5

 

I have added this entire section from James Sanders’ as it does make an interesting read and provides a lot of information on the sons of Thomas 4 Siderfin who both filed for bankruptcy (Robert filing for his brother Thomas) then Darch (his nephew-in-law) filed for Robert in order to settle the estate. I have not footnoted these appendices they do not really add that much material to the Siderfin family but are simply interesting.

From MacDermot's Forest of Exmor

James Boevey of London, Merchant. James Boeve or Boevey, the first owner of Exmoor, was of Dutch extraction. His father, one Andrew Boeve of Courtrai in Flanders, was brought to England in 1573 at the age of seven by his parents who being Huguenots fled from the persecution of the Duke of Alva.

However, his appetite for litigation had not decreased with age, and the law officers of the Crown seem to have been ever ready to assist him. A few days before the landing of William of Orange at Tor Bay, we find the Attorney General lodging a bill in the Exchequer against Robert Siderfin, who in 1681 had succeeded his brother Thomas as lord of the Manor of Exton, Hawkridge and Withypool. It is to this bill that the extracts from the Rolls of the Exmoor Forest Court refer. The cause of the trouble was evidently that Siderfin had been impounding some of the forest sheep and cattle found on Hawkridge and Withypool Commons. Boevey having discovered that the foresters in Tudor times had laid claim to these commons as part of the forest, renewed his pretensions, not ony as to Hawkridge and Withypool, but inferentially to all other commons, and further developed his theory of the Royal Manor. The action is ostensibly for the recovery of documents, which are alleged to be in Siderfin's possession, but it includes a claim to the commons, and this was the real object in view. That Siderfin had got hold of any of the forest records seems highly improbable.

After James Bovey's death, January, 1696, his widow, Mrs. Margaret Bovey, succeeded to his interest in Exmoor Forest under provisions of his will. Mrs. Boevey kept the forest for eight years, and on the 26th April, 1704, sold the residue of her term - fifteen years - to her husband's old adversary, Robert Siderfin of Croydon in Carhampton Parish, who had already acquired the reversionary lease for thirty one years granted to Lord Arundell, of Trerice, in December, 1678. How he obtained this lease is not apparent; Lord Arundell had died in October, 1687, and his son John, the second baron, in June, 1698.

Robert Siderfin, who thus became entitled to Exmoor Forest for forty six years, to be exact, for a term ending on the 21st July, 1750, was the representative of a family which had long been settled in Luxborough, in November, 1645, and is described in the register as "ye sonne of Thomas Sidderfin," the latter was a justice of the peace during the time of the Commonwealth. Robert succeeded to the Croydon property and the Manors of Exton, Hawkridge and Withpool as well as South Quarme in 1681, under the will of his elder brother, Thomas Siderfin. He was a barrister by profession and Sheriff of Somerset in 1694. Whether he still owned all the property is a little doubtful in view of a private Act of Parliament which was passed in 1700, entitled "An Act for vesting the Manor of Exton and other lands in the County of Somerset, late the estate of Thomas Siderfin, Esquire, deceased, in trustees to be sold for payment of debts." We do not know what was done in pursuance of this Act. Robert Siderfin certainly held Croydon till his death, and perhaps Hawkridge and Withypool too. If the lord of these manors was once again after an interval of more than four centuries forester of Exmoor, Richard de Plessy, who died in 1289, having been the last to hold them with the forestership.

In 1706 we find the new forester following the example of his predecessor by going to law with some of his neighbours. It seems that the right on the forest claimed by the suitors at large, or borderers, were not generally recognized even at this time; so with a view to settling the question Siderfin filed his bill in the Exchequer in Michaelmas term, 1706, against the following persons: John and Lewis Hatche of South Molton, Nicholas, George and William Shapland, William and George Barrow, John and Daniel Smith and William Kingdon all of North Molton; John Mogeridge of Molland and David Bale of Linton.

In this he shows his title to "a large tract of land heretofore the Forest and Chace of Exmore" under letters patent of the 15th January, 12 Charles II. (1661), whereby the same was leased to James, Marquis of Ormond, and his assigns for 31 years in reversion.

From these pleadings we see that at this period Exmoor was regarded merely in its aspect of a great sheep pasture, and that the forest and forestal rights were in danger of being forgotten by the forester himself, who speaks of it as "a large tract of land heretofore the Forest or Chace of Exmore." while the defendants do not believe it to be a forest at all and doubt whether it ever was one. It is pretty evident that during the last half century Mr. Boevey had only concerned himself with the revenue-producing possibilities of his property, and had allowed the rights over the deer claimed by his predecessors to lapse. From his statement that the prices for agistment had been usually if not always the same, Siderfin was evidently ignorant of the fact that they had been fixed by Boevey in 1655, and that he could alter them if so minded. This ignorance seems to have been shared by all the succeeding foresters. The defendants pervert the truth very conveniently in their answer by omitting to mention that the right of pasture in the forest, confirmed to the lord and tenants of North Molton by the decree they quote, was limited to the time between sunrise and sunset, and that they had therefore no right to leave their sheep in the forest at night, which fact, of course, made a considerable difference to the value of their right of common. The defendants who lived in Molland and Lynton did not put in any answers to the bill, so we do not hear whether they claimed the same right as the North Molton men, and if so, on what grounds. Siderfin does ot appear to have proceeded with the action. After this time all the borderers with one or two exceptions seem to have been treated alike, paying half the rates which strangers paid; at least this was the case in 1736 and subsequently.

In 1719 Mr. Siderfin had some trouble with one John Dennicombe, a recently evicted tenant of Simonsbath Farm, who brought an action against him in Chancery. From the pleadings we learn that in 1702 Mr. William Smith, "agent to Madam Bovey," had let the farm, then about to become vacant, to Dennicombe at a yearly rent of £9. This seems by the way a very low figure; probably it was difficult to get a tenant at all owing to the loneliness of the place. Later on the rent was generally £35 a year. In May, 1704, Dennicombe had taken the farm from a new forester on a five years' repairing agreement, and had given him a bond for £500 to observe its conditions. "During the term the premises fell into very great decay and became ruinous for want of repair."

Siderfin gave the tenant notice to repair, but the latter said he was too poor to lay out the money and asked his landlord to do the repairs, promising to repay him. So in 1706 the latter spent over £20 and "new covered and tiled a barn at a cost of over £10."

After the five years were up Dennicombe was allowed to remain as a yearly tenant till 1717, when he was given notice to quit. "About Lady-day, 1718, the Plaintiff's wife came to the defendant at his dwelling at Croyden and asked him to let them remain in part of the dwellinghouse till Midsomer, promising to deliver up possession of the other part and also of all the land except the garden forthwith, and of the rest of the house and the garden at Midsomer." To this Siderfin consented, but when 'Midsomer' came Dennicombe refused to go, whereupon the former "caused your Orator to be arrested on the Bond, and for want of special bail carried to Ivelchester Goal where he still remaineth." This was the usual method of treating debtors in those days. ' At the winter assizes in Hillary Term last' (1719) Siderfin brought an action for ejectment, and according to the plaintiff, "taking advantage of your Orator's povery and imprisonment snapt a judgement." Accordingly the bailiffs of the Sheriff of Somerset turned out the rest of the Dennicombe family out upon the moor on the 22nd April 1719, and duly gave possession of Simonsbath House to Mr. Siderfin. Four days later the suit in Chancery was commenced, the plaintiff alleging that he had spent large sums in the last year on improving and manuring the farm, etc., etc., and that Siderfin had promised never to turn him out. The latter made answer on the 14th July denying that he had ever made any improvements or spent five shillings on the farm, which was in a very much worse state than when he took it, and concludes by alleging that "the complainant or his family have broken, burnt or otherwise destroyed the gates, floors, and timbers of the said house to the value of £10 and more." No doubt firewood was scarce on Exmoor.

Whether John Dennicombe got the relief he sought or ended his days in Ilchester Gaol, we know not.

The Marquis of Ormond's lease of January 1661, came to an end on the 21st July, 1719, but this made no practical difference, as Siderfin held Lord Arundell's revisionary lease of December, 1678, which then began to run. Strictly speaking, the term which he had bought from Mrs. Boevey expired a month earlier, as the last month of the thirty-one years had been reserved by the Marquis when he transferred the lease to James Boevey in 1661, but this fact had no doubt been forgotten.

Robert Siderfin died in July, 1720, and was buried at Luxborough on the 14th of that month. He had been married four times; Ann, daughter of Sir John Wittewrong of Rothamstead in Hertford, whose death on May 5th, 1708, is recorded by an inscription on the floor of Luxborough Church, being referred to in his will as his third wife, while he left a widow, Elizabeth by name. One of the two earlier wives was "Katherine Siderfin alias Graves," administration of whose estate was granted to him in November, 1686. By one of the earlier marriages he had two sons, Walter and Robert, but neither is referred to in his will, by which he left all his lands in Somerset and Devon, subject to a charge for the payment of his debts, to his wife Elizabeth, and made her residuary legatee and sole executrix.

The will is dated 14th June, 1715. Like his elder brother Thomas, Robert Siderfin died in debt, and the widow having renounced probate of his will, administration was granted to Robert Darch as principal creditor on the 22nd June, 1721.

This Robert Darch, a Presbyterian minister at Bishop's Hull, near Taunton, was the second of four brothers, nephews of Robert Siderfin. His eldest brother, Thomas, lived and owned land in Luxborough, where he died in August, 1734. There is an inscription on the floor of Luxborough Church recording his death and that of his widow, Sarah, who is described as "a father to the poor and eminent for the practice of virtue and true religion." Two other brothers, James and Philip, the latter of whom seems to have been also a Presbyterian minister, are referred to as 'my nephews' in Siderfin's will and given legacies of £100 each. The Darch family had long been resident in Luxborough; in 1598 a James Darch of Luxborough, was joint plaintiff in a lawsuit concerning Exmoor with Thomas Webber, the deputy forester.

After Siderfin's death his interest in Exmoor Forest, probably by some arrangement among the creditors, became divided between two persons, the principal of whom was this Robert Darch. In the rental of the crown lands compiled in 1734 the tenants of Exmoor Forest are named as "Robert Darch and another" and from the fact that Darch purchased the tithes from the Cressets in 1723 we may infer with tolerable certainty that he was then in possession of an interest in the Forest iself. 'Another' was presumably the John Hill who 'passed and allowed' before two witnesses, the accounts of the deputy forester, which were furnished to Darch's widow and son in 1737 and 1743 respectively. Very likely he was a grandson of Boevey's deputy forester who lived at Newland in Withpool in 1678. A third John Hill appears as owner of Newland and Higher Lanacre in 1819. From the terms of Darch's will, combined with the absence from these accounts of any rent for Simonsbath Farm, it seems that this belonged solely to Darch, and that Hill had a half share in the forest only, exclusive of the farm. However this may have been, Darch had the predominant interest as sole owner of the tithes besides his share of the forest.

Darch died on the 31st January, 1737. Among the pamphlets enumerated in Mr. E. Green's Bibliotheca Somersenensis appear the following: "Grove, Henry .... A funeral sermon occasioned by the death of the late reverend Mr. Robert Darch, of Hill Bishops, in the County of Somerset, who departed this life Jan. 31st, 1737, aetat 65." From another entry in the same work we gather that at the funeral of Robert Siderfin's third wife, Darch himself had entertained the mourners with a discourse considered worthy of printing: "Darch, Robert (Hill-bishops). A sermon preach'd at the funeral of Mrs. Anne, the wife of Robert Siderfin, Esq., one of her Majesties justices of the peace for the County of Somerset, at Timberscombe, May 13th, 1708."


 

Appendix 6

 

Date: 29 Sep 2009

Document: Will

Source: The National Archives PROB 11/505/393

Date of document: 19 Jun 1707; probated 30 Dec 1708

Author: Augustine Question

Relationship: 7x great grandfather

Location: Carhampton Somerset England

 

[In margin] T[esta]m[ent] Augustine Question

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In the Name of God Amen

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I Augustine Question the Elder of Rodhuish in the Parish

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of Carhampton in the County of Somersett Gent being in

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good and perfect mind and memory praise be given to

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Almighty God for the same Revoking all former and

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other Wills by me heretofore made and Legacies by me

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given do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament

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In writing in manner and form following that is to say first

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and principally I commend my Soul into the hands of Almighty

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God assuredly trusting through the meritts death and passion

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of Jesus Christ my Saviour to receive free pardon of all my

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Sins and Life Everlasting in the world to come And my

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Body to be committed to the Earth from whence it was taken

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to be decently interred in Christian burial at the discretion

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of my Executor hereafter named And as for my worldly

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temporal and personal Estate wherewith God hath blessed

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me I dispose thereof in manner and form following (that

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is to say) Imprimis I give and bequeath unto the poor of

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the parish of Carhampton Twenty shillings and to the

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poor of Dunsterr Twenty shillings and to the poor of

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Withycombe Twenty shillings to be distributed to them

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on the day of my burial. Item I do give and bequeath to my

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Eldest Son John Question my longest Silver Quoole Item I

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give devise and bequeath unto my Son Augustine Question

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and to his heirs Males All those Messuages Lands

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Tenements hereditaments and Premisses with the appurt[ance]s

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Hereinafter mentioned (that is to say) All those six Acres

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of Land called Prislands now in my own possession situate

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lying and being in the parish of Carhampton in the County

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of Somersett And all that one Tenement or Cottage Orchard

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and Garden late in the possession of one John Budd and

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now in my own Possession lying in the Parish of Carhampton

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aforesaid And all that one dwelling house and Garden

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late in the possession of one Rose Whythycombe and now in

 

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the possession of her Assignee or Assignes scituate in the

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parish of Carhampton aforesaid and all those two Meadows

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called Wythymead and Crosemead with the Close of Land

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called Sinnersland late in the possession of one Rose

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Whythycombe and now in my own possession lying in the

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Parish of Carhampton aforesaid And also one other

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Messuage or Tenement with a Garden and two Closes

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of Land or Pasture called the Crust and Ruappe late in

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the possession of one John Grime and now in my owne

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Possession lying in the parish of Carhampton aforesaid and

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the Reversion and Remainders thereof with all and singular

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their Appurtenances and all my deeds and writings touching

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And concerning the same To have and to hold the same unto

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my said Son Augustine Question and to his heirs males

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of his Body And for default of such Issue my Will and

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meaning is and I do give and devise all the same Messuages

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Lands and Premisses with the Appurtenances unto my Son

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John Question and his heirs Males of his Body And for

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default of such Issue I do give and devise all the same

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Messuages Lands and Premisses with the Appurtenances

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unto my own right heirs for Ever Item I do give and

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devise unto my said Son Augustine Question for and during

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the term of his natural Life All my Messuages Lands

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Tenements and hereditaments with the Appurtenances

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situate lying and being in the parish of Dunsterr in the

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County of Somersett and after the death or decease of my

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said son Augustine Question my Will and meaning is and

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I do give and devise all the same Messuages Lands

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Tenements and Hereditaments with the Appurtenances

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situate lying and being in the said parish of Dunster

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and County of Somersett unto my Grandson Andrew

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Question the son of my said Son Augustine Question and

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to the heirs Males of his Body lawfully begotten And

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for default of such Issue I do give and devise all the same

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Messuages Lands Tenements and hereditaments with

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the Appurtances unto my said son Augustine Question

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and to the heirs males of his Body And for default of

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such Issue I do give and devise all the same Messuages

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Lands Tenements and hereditaments with the Appurtances

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unto my son John Question and to the heirs Males of his

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Body And for default of such Issue I do give and devise

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all the same Messuages Lands Tenements and hereditaments

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with the Appurtenances lying and being in the parish of

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Dunsterr in the County of Somersett aforesaid unto my own

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right heirs for Ever Item I do give and bequeath unto

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my said Son Augustine Question my Shortest Silver Poole

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and to his wife Cecilia Question and to their seven

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Children namely Augustine Andrew George John

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Thomas Sarah and Susannah Questions Two shillings a

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Peece Item I do give and bequeath to my daughter in

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Law Mary Question Wife of my said Son John Question

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Two shillings Item I give to my Grandson John Question

 

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Son of my said Son John Question my long Table Board

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and forme now standing in the Parlour in my now dwelling

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house Also I give unto Augustine Question Andrew

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Question Mary Johannah Susannah and Elizabeth Questions

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Sons and daughters of my said Son John Question Two shillings

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each Item I give to my Son in Law Robert Siderfin five

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shillings Also I give to my daughter Elizabeth Siderfine

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his wife a peece of Gold of Twenty Shillings I give likewise

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to their seven Children namely Robert John Augustine

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Thomas Elizabeth Jane and Susannah Siderfin ten shillings

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a peece Item I give to my daughter in Law Anne Question

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and to her four Children namely John, Jane, Anne and

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Susannah Questions Two shillings a peece which said Legacies

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are to be paid in two Months after my decease by my Executor

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Item all the Rest and Residue of my Goods and Chattles

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Rights and Creditts as well moveable as immovable (not

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herein before given or bequeathed) I do give and bequeath

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unto my said son Augustine Question whom I do hereby

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make nominate and ordain my full whole and sole Executor

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of this my last Will and Testament In Witness whereof I

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the said Augustine Question the Elder on two part of this

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my said last Will and Testament Indented the one part

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thereof to remain with my said Son Augustine Question and

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his heirs Males for Ever and the other part thereof to

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remain in the Office where the same shall be proved have

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sett my hand and Seal this Nineteenth day of June in the

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year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lady Anne now Queen

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of Great Britain and the Sixth Anno d[o]mi  One Thousand

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seven hundred and seven 1707 Augustine Question Signed

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Sealed published and declared this to be my last Will and

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Testament having two parts or Originals duly Executed in

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the presence of us Thomas Prowse Mathew Escott Amos

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Escott

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Probatum fuit Piujusinodi Testomentis apud

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London roman venerabili et Egregio Vivo domino Richardo

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Raines White Legum doctore Curia Prerogative Coutu

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Ragistro Custode ewe Commiseario legitune constituto

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Triceimo die Rewsis decembrio Anno domi Willesimo

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Septingentisimo Ortavo Juramento Augustin Question

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Executoris in dicto Testamento Nominate Cuirominisea

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Fuit Administratio ominium et singulerum bonoruni juriu

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Et creditorium dicti defuncti de bene et fideliter administrander

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Eadem ad Sta dei Evangelia (Vigore Commissiouis) Jurait

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Exam

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Examr per B Rushworth Nolium Pubcum

 


 

Appendix 7

The status and location of the Siderfin Family of Luxborough, Somerset as mentioned by James Sanders has been located to an Appendix as it is interesting but does not fit into the generational aspect of the early part of the book. Perhaps it is my being female, but I have little interest in family crests or arms. But feel duty bound to record the crest used thus far by the Thomas 4 (Robert 3, William 2, John 1) line (as far as I can determine although do make query comments in the text) so one is left to assume that this line created it and this line did appear to daughter out.

There is no mention of any of this family bearing arms, yet Collinson, in History of Somerset[1], mentions “Arms, three cups,” – Siderfin[2]



Figure 23: Crest of the Siderfin Family (from James Sanders’ book)

There is an inscription on one of the floor pieces “Here lyeth the body of Ann the wife of Robert Siderfin, of Croydon, esq; and daughter of Sir John Wittewronge, of Rothamsted in the county of Hertford, bart. Who died May 5, 1708. Arms: three cups, Siderfin; impaling Bendy of fix, on a chief a bar indented, Wittewronge.” [3].

It seemed to be important to the story that James Sanders was writing perhaps to emphasize that the Siderfin family did eventually rise to the status of gentlemen and did bear arms so I have left it with the rest of the text with which it was associated.

Link to the original book of James Sanders held by Internet Archives. Although I have included quite a bit of James Sanders book in this revision there are interesting historical comments and information which he included which did not actually involve the Siderfin Family so I have not always included every page of his book in this revision[4]:

https://archive.org/details/historyofsiderfi00sand

Appendix 9 contains unlinked Siderfin records found during searches of Find My Past.


 

Appendix 8

Name of Testator: Grace Escott, Dunster, Somerset, widow

Held by: North Devon Record Office

Reference: 3792 M/F2

Date 6 Aug 1784, proved Taunton Archdeaconry Court 4 Sep 1784

Transcription: unknown, sent to me by Mark Siderfin (I have not corrected the obvious mis-transcriptions and do not know who did the transcription; from memory I think that Mark acquired the document from the Devon Record Office and had it transcribed. I did check to see if he sent the images of the original will but have not located it to date.)

The will itself is interesting as it does re-enforce the ancestry of James Sanders back to the Robert 6 line (Robert Siderfin married to Grace Kent).

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In the Name of God Amen  I Grace Escott of Dunster in the County of

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Somerset, Widow, being of sound and perfect Mind memory and Intellects ………to

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Almighty God for the same do make ordain and appoint this to be my last and legal

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Will and Testement, as followeth (that is to say) first and principally I recommend my

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Soul into the Hands of the Almighty God who gave it me and my Body to decent and

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Christian burial.  And for such Worldly Goods as it hath pleased Almighty God to

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give me  I give and Bequeath the same as followeth (to wit)  Whereas in and by virtue

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of a certain Deed of Settlement made on my intermarriage with my late husband

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Thomas Escott of Withycombe in the County of Somerset ……. Deceased  twas

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therein and thereby authorized and impressed by any Deed or Deeds Writing or

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Writings or by my last Will and Testement to direct limit give or devise all that

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messuages and Garden with the Appurtenances called the Middle House and the

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pieces and parcels of lands meadows and pasture ground hereafter particularly

14

mentioned and expressed (that is to say) Great Langland Meadows, one piece called

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Hurtstone, two rights in the New Marsh, one acre in the Upper Langford and one

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piece called the Drang all which said  …….. with the appurtunances were late parts ad

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parcels or reputed so to be part of the Manor of Alcombe in the said County of

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Somerset.   And also all that cottage or dwellinghouse, garden and orchard with the

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appurtunances containing by estimation one yard or thereabouts to the same more or

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less situate lying in Alcombe aforesaid and late was part and parcel of the said Manor

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and heretofore were in the possession of Elizabeth Crookford her Assigns or Assigner

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and now are in the possession of William Edmund and William Clarke as Tenants

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thereof together with all and singular, the house (part of which has been burnt down),

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outhouses, edifices, buildings, barns, stables, stalls, gardens, orchards, commons and

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common of pasture, ways, paths, passages, water, water courses, eavements, profits,

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commodities, hereditaments, advantages and appurtunances whatsoever to the said

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premises or any part or parcel thereof belonging or appertaining on therewith used or

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enjoyed or accepted reputed taken or known as part parcel or (member?) thereof. 

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Now the said Grace Escott do in ……. and full execution of the power arising either

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from the letter or construction of the said Deed of Settlement or by implication of

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Law and of all other Powers whatsoever either expressed or implied wherewith

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……… either in Law or Equity invested by this my last Will and Testement in writing

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duly executed and credibly attested direct limit give and devise the said messuage and

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garden with the appurtenances called The Middle House and the said pieces and

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parcels of land, meadow and pasture ground herein before and herein after

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particularly mentioned (that is to say) Great Langland Meadows, one piece called

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Hurtstone, two rights in New Marsh, one acre in the Upper Langford and one piece

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called the Drang and also the said cottage or dwellinghouse (…….) garden with the

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appurtenances containing by estimation one yard or thereabouts (be the same more or

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less) situated lying and being in Alcombe aforesaid and all other land and premises

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herein before mentioned …… and every part and parcel thereof respectively with

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their respective rights ……….  hereditaments  ………. appurtenances unto John

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Siderfin, son of Robert Siderfin of the Parish of Selworthy in the said County of

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Somerset, Yeoman and the Heirs of his body lawfully to be gotten subject to the

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provisos and conditions hereinafter mentioned, that is to say, provided always and it is

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my true Intent and Meaning and I do hereby declare my Will to be that in case the

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John Siderfin shall happen to die without heirs of his body lawfully begotten then and

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in such case I do hereby direct limit give and devise the said messuages and garden

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called the Middle House and the lands and premises herein before part mentioned and

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also the said cottage or dwellinghouse (on the soile thereof) garden and orchard and

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all other hands an premises herein before mentioned and (visited?) and every part and

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parcel thereof respectively with their respective rights members hereditaments and

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appurtunances unto Mary Siderfin, Betty Siderfin, Grace Long and Joanna Siderfin

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(sisters of the said John Siderfin) their heirs and assigns for ever to hold to them the

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said Mary Siderfin, Betty Siderfin, Grace Long and Joanna Siderfin their heirs and

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assigns for ever as Tenants in Common and not as Joint Tenants.  Also I give and

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bequeath unto my cousin Jane Clarke the Dwellinghouse at Tivington wherein Francis

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Edwards now lives with garden and orchard thereunto belonging during the form of

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her natural life free and clear of all Rates Taxes and Repairs for or in respect of the

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same which said Rates and Taxes thereby direct my Executor hereinafter named to

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pay and discharge and also to keep the said House and Orchard in good and sufficient

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repair during the said form out of the Residum of my Estate and Effects, it being my

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Will that the said Jane Clark should hold and enjoy the same during her life free and

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clear of all outgoings whatsoever and from and after the decease of the said Jane

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Clark, I give and devise the said House Garden and Orchard unto the herein before

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mentioned John Siderfin his Executor Administration and Assigner for and during all

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the then Residue and remainder of my Term Estate and Interest therein.  Also I give

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unto the said Jane Clarke a feather bed and bolster which I lent her and which she has

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now in her keeping and also four ponds yearly and every year of lawful Money of

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England during her natural life by my Executor herein after named.  Also I give and

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devise all that my reversionary term Estate and Interest to commence on the Death of

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Joseph Kent and in all that my leasehold messuages or tenement with its

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appurtenances commonly called or known by the name of Kents situate lying and

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being in Selworthy of ……. and being part of the Manor of Blackford and now in the

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possession of Robert Sage, Yeoman and Thomas Giles of Selworthy aforesaid

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Yeoman his Executors and Administration upon Trust and to and for the  Ends intents

77

and Purposes hereinafter mentioned and declared concerning the same (that is to say)

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upon trust that he the said Thomas Giles his Executor or Administration do and shall

79

yearly and every year from and after the commencement of the said term and during

80

the natural life of Ann Sage Wife of the said Robert Sage (my term and interest

81

therein so long continuing) may apply and dispose of all the clear ……… rents House

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and Profits of the said messuages or tenement and premises unto such person or

83

persons and in such parts proportions manner and form as she the said Ann Sage shall

84

from time to time (notwithstanding her …….) by any memorandum in writing under

85

her hand alone direct and appoint or otherwise do and shall permit and suffer her the

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said Ann Sage to receive and take such Rents House and Profits of the said premises

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to her own sole and separate ……. Benefit and disposal whose receipt alone shall be a

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sufficient discharge for the same to his intent the same may not be in the power or

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disposal or subject or liable to the House debts or engagements of the said Robert

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Sage her husband or any future husband if she should happen to have any, but entirely

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at her own vote and separate ….. and disposal and from and after the death of the said

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Ann Sage then upon Trust to permit and suffer the said Robert Sage his Executors,

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Administration and Assigner peaceably and quietly to have hold occupy possess and

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, enjoy and to receive take and apply all the Rents House and Profits of the said

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messuage or tenement called ……… for and during all the then residue and remainder

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of my Term Estate and Interest therein he she or they keeping the said premises in

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good and sufficient repair and discharging all Rates Tax and Imposition in respect

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hereof and observing doing and performing all the covenants in the leave of said

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premises.  Also I give and bequeath unto Mary the daughter of the said Robert and

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Ann Sage six silver team spoons marked with letters GE, my silver tea tongs, best set

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of china, my china milk jug, my stand tea table and one of my Hand Waiters made of

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Oak.  Also I give and bequeath unto Ann the wife of Giles Bryant of Dunster

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aforesaid Butcher the sum of fifty pounds of lawful Money of England also my silver

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butter dish marked with TT and 1753 also one elbow mahogany chair and two single

105

mahogany chairs with Horsehair bottoms.  Also I give and bequeath unto my cousin

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Grace Bishop (widow) of the Parish of (Stogurney?) ten pounds of lawful Money of

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England.  Also I give unto my cousin Mary Harris wife of John Harris of Lyddard

108

Ten Pounds of lawful Money of England.  Also I give unto my cousin John Trill

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Servant to Alexander Fowles Luttrell, Clerk Ten Pounds of lawful Money of England. 

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Also I give unto Ann the daughter of Robert Siderfin herein before mentioned or unto

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Samuel Lovelace of the Parish of Minehead in the said County of Somerset, Yeoman,

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in Trust to and for the only proper use benefit and behalf of her the said Ann Siderfin

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her Executors, Administration and Assigns during her natural life all that Meadows

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situate called or known by the name of Witch Meadows situate lying and being in the

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Parish of Selworthy aforesaid and the part or parcel of the said Manor of Blackford.    

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That he the said Samuel Lovelace his Executor Administration and Assigns shall

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permit and suffer the said Ann Siderfin her Executor Administration and Assigns to

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receive and take all the rents and the profits of the said Meadows called Witch

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Meadows during her and their natural lives if my Estate and Interest therein shall so

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long continue and her and their receipts shall be proper and lawful discharged for the

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same she and they paying and discharging all Rates Taxes and Impositions which

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shall or may be laid charged or imposed on the said Meadows or Premises during all

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the said term of the lease belonging to the (tear in paper) or Premises.  Also I give and

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bequeath unto the said Ann Siderfin my blue bed with the curtains and valence and

125

pillow thereun belonging one quilt, a pair of sheets, a pair of blankets and damask

126

tablecloth marked with the letter T, six blue and white china plates, my large common

127

prayer book and one other book entitled the Christian Defence by Charles

128

Drelincourt, one little bible with a gilt ……., one small trunk covered with flowered

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silk, and one green bed rug and two silver tablespoons, one marked with the letter T

130

and the other with the letter TT and GT and 1724 and one silver hilt case knife and

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fork.  Also I give and bequeath unto Mary the daughter of the aforesaid Robert

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Siderfin all those my several leasehold messuages or tenements with their

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apportunances commonly called or known by the names of Ham Mead, Pound

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Meadows and Oxenlears situate and being in Selworthy aforesaid and part and parcel

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of the Manor of Blackford aforesaid for and during her natural life her Executor

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Administration and Assigns if my Estate and Interest shall therein so long continue

137

she and they paying and discharging all high rents rates taxes and impositions which

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shall be laid or charged on the said premises during the Term provided always and my

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true Intent and Meaning is and I do hereby declare my Will to be that in case the said

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Mary Siderfin shall happen to die having no child or children of her body lawfully

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begotten living at her death that then and in such case immediately from and after the

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death of the said Mary Siderfin I give and devise the said several messuages and

143

tenements with their appurtenances called Pound Meadows, Oxenlears and Ham

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Mead unto Thomas Siderfin the youngest son of Robert Siderfin aforesaid (or unto the

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said Robert Siderfin in Trust to and for the only use benefit and ……… of his said

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son Thomas his Executive Administration and Assigns during all the then residue and

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remainder of several Term Estates and Interests therein respectively).  Also I give

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unto the said Mary Siderfin my silver pint cup marked with TT and 1753 and all the

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rest of my silver spoons not herein before given and all the rest of my books not

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herein before given.  Also I give Ann the wife of Giles Bryant of Dunster aforesaid

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Butcher my flowered silk damask pint coloured gown and one yellow with quilted

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petticoat.  Also I give unto Mary the wife of John Staddon of Dunster aforesaid

153

Yeoman my most fashionable green silk gown which has been tuned and one black

154

with quilted petticoat.  Also I give unto Ann the wife of Robert Sage of Selworthy

155

aforesaid Yeoman my grey second mourning silk gown and one blue with quilted

156

petticoat and also two pairs of stays.  Also I give unto the above Mary Siderfin my

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other green silk gown and one shaded silk quilted petticoat.  Also I give unto

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Elizabeth the daughter of Giles Bryant aforesaid one silver brooch marked with TTG

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1684 and one spruce chest and my light coloured silk gown and two silver hilt case

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knives and forks and my striped silk quilted petticoat and my silver buckles.  Also I

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give unto Izoll Wybourn and Joan Wybourn of the Parish of Selworthy, Spinsters, the

162

sum of Twenty Shillings each.  Also I give unto the said Mary Siderfin fifty pounds of

163

lawful money of England and all the rest of my household goods and furniture and

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clothing now in Dunster not herein before given (except one silver tankard marked

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with the letters TTT and 1746 and one long tablecloth marked with the letters GT

166

which I hereby give and bequeath unto my said Brother John Siderfin).  All the rest

167

and residue of my Goods Chattels Lands and temporal Estate and Effects ready

168

money and securities for money Rights and Credits whatsoever and wheresoever my

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Debts legacies and funeral expenses being first duly paid and discharged and

170

wherewith those charges and ……… the same accordingly.  I give and bequeath unto

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the aforesaid John Siderfin his Executor Administration and Assigner and I do hereby

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make constitute and appoint the said John Siderfin to be the whole and sole and

173

residuary legatee and Executor of this my last and legal Will and Testement and I do

174

revoke all other and former Wills by me made and make and appoint this only to be

175

my last Will and Testement and I do hereby order and direct all the legacies herein

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mentioned to be paid on one year next after my decease.  In witness thereof I the said

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Grace Escott to this my last Will and Testement contained in four sheets of paper to

178

the first four sheets only subscribing my name and to the last sheet subscribing my

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name and affixing my seal on the sixth day of August in the Twenty Fourth year of

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the reign of King George the Third and in the year of our Lord Christ One Thousand

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Seven Hundred and Eighty Four.

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Signed, sealed, published and declared by the said Grace Escott the

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Testatrix to be her last and legal Will and Testement in the presence of

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us and by us subscribed as Witness as thereto in her presence and at

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her request and in the presence of each other all the interlinings and erasures

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therein being first made.

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Thos Escott

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Hugh Matthews

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Thos Markham

 


 

Appendix 9

 

Unlinked Siderfin Records (BMB/BMD)

1

Eleanor Siderfin baptized 17 Oct 1610, Luxborough, Somerset, England

2

Elizabeth Siderfin married James Nurcombe 30 Sep 1616, Luxborough, Somerset, England (I think this is the daughter of Robert 3 but have left it out of the text)

3

Joan Siderfin was christened on 10 Dec 1700 in Selworthy, Somerset, England, and died in 1761, aged 61. Joan married John Pasmore on 4 Apr 1738 in Minehead, Somerset, England.

4

Parents: John and Joan Siderfin (son William Siderfin baptized 23 Sep 1719 and buried 13 Nov 1748 both at Wootton Courtney; son Robert baptized 16 Jun 1726 at Minehead) This could be John 8 Siderfin (John 7, John 6, Robert 5, William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) but his step-mother only mentioned a grand-daughter Joane in her will (John 8 married Maria Winter) so I have omitted these two baptisms from the text

5

John Siderfin married Mary Ann Parsons Jun quarter 1891, Barton R., Gloucestershire

6

Mary June Siderfin married James Lancaster 7 Mar 1796 at Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

7

Robert Siderfin buried 7 Mar 1762 at Wootton Courtney, Somerset (possibly the Robert #4 above)

8

Thomas Siderfin married Mary Seyers Deverall 18 Jul 1786 at St Thomas, Bristol, Gloucestershire (children baptized: Ann Siderfin baptized 1 Apr 1787, Temple Bristol, Gloucestershire), Sarah Siderfin born 11 Nov 1791 and baptized 25 Dec 1791, Temple Bristol, Gloucestershire (married John Tutt 3 Oct 1810 St Pauls Bristol, Gloucestershire, Robert baptized 17 May 1807 St Pauls Bristol, Gloucestershire)

 

 

 

 



[1] The History and Antiquities of the County of Somerset, collected from Authentick Records, and an actual Survey made by the late Mr. Edmund Rack. Adorned with a map of the County and engravings of Roman and other Reliques, Town-Seals, Baths, Churches, and Gentlemen’s Seats by the Reverend John Collinson, F.A.S. Vicar of Long-Ashton, Curate of Filton alias Whitchurch, in the County of Somerset and Vicar of Clanfield, in the County of Oxford. 3 Volumes; Printed at Bath: Printed by R. Cruttwell, 1791

[2] James Sanders, History of the Siderfin Family of West Somerset, 1912, page 18

[3] Ibid, Volume 2, page 26

[4] Comment by the author, Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, 18 Dec 2023