Knight family at Spetisbury, Winterborne Stickland, Turnworth Dorset and Dorset Parish Registers

The last research day on the Knight families was 25 Jul 2011:

http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2011/07/knight-families-at-spetisbury.html

although there have been several posts on the Knight family due to emails received from descendants of this family in Dorset.

I planned to look at the Dorset parish registers that have come up on Ancestry in particular Spetisbury, Winterborne Stickland and Turnworth. Today I did Spetisbury from 1780 to 1812 and will return to work on Spetisbury from 1700 to 1779 on the next research day.

Spetisbury:
Baptisms
Henry son of William and Sarah Knight baptized 26 May 1812
Samuel son of Ellis and Eleanor Knight 8 Nov 1811
William son of William and Eliz Knight 7 Oct 1810
George son of Henry and Anne Knight 1 Oct 1810
Mary Anne daughter of Ellis and Elianor Knight 26 Nov 1809
George son of William and Sarah Knight 20 Aug 1809
 Jane daughter of Henry and Ann Knight 30 Oct 1806
George son of Ellis and Eleanor Knight 28 Jun 1806
David son of William and Elizabeth Knight 16 Aug 1805
Hannah daughter of William and Sarah Knight 22 Mar 1807
Elizabeth daughter of Henry and Ann Knight 25 Feb 1807
Ellis son of Ellis and Eleanor Knight 27 Jul 1806
Miriam daughter of William and Elizabeth Knight baptized 5 May 1805
Eliza daughter of Henry and Ann Knight 21 Oct 1804
Charles son of William and Sarah Knight 12 Jan 1804
Mary Ann daughter of Henry and Ann Knight 26 Dec 1802
James son of William and Sarah Knight 11 May 1802
Henrietta daughter of Henry and Ann Knight
John son of John and Ann Knight 30 Nov 1800
William son of William and Sarah Knight 22 Sep 1799
Benjamin son of Henry and Ann Knight 22 Mar 1799
Henry son of John and Elizabeth Knight 25 Nov 1798
Joseph son of Thomas and Ann Knight 29 Apr 1798
Martha daughter of John and Ann Knight 8 Oct 1797
Jemima daughter of William and Anne Knight 2 Nov 1796
Maria daughter of John and Anne Knight 1 Jan 1796
Anne daughter of Thomas and Anne Knight 6 Dec 1795
George son of Sarah Knight 4 Oct 1795
Henry son of John and Eliz Knight 17 Sep 1795
James son of William and Anne Knight 6 Jul 1794
Harriet daughter of John and Eliz: Knight 3 Mar 1794
Mary daughter of Thomas and Ann Knight 30 Jan 1794
Mary Ann daughter of John and Elizabeth Knight 7 Oct 1793
Mary Anne daughter of Jo and Eliz Knight 9 Aug 1792
Charlotte daughter of John and Elizabeth Knight 3 Jun 1792
Elizabeth Ann daughter of William and Ann Knight 16 Oct 1791
Jane daughter of John and Elizabeth Knight 21 Apr 1791
Henry son of John and Elizth Knight 1 Dec 1789
Sophia daughter of John and Anne Knight 25 Sep 1789
David son of John and Elizth Knight 16 Dec 1787
Eleanor daughter of John and Ann Knight 12 Dec 1786
Jane daughter of John and Elizabeth Knight 1 Jan 1786
Joseph son of John and Ann Knight 24 Aug 1785
Sarah daughter of John and Elizabeth Knight 2 May 1784


Burials
William son of William and Eliz Knight 8 Oct 1810
Martha Knight 1 Jan 1806
Miriam Knight 19 Oct 1803
James son of William Knight 14 Sep 1801
Charles son of William Knight 14 Sep 1801
Elizabeth Knight 10 Jun 1801
Henry son of Elizabeth Knight 23 Feb 1801
John Knight 15 Feb 1799
Ann wife of William Knight 28 May 1798
Harriet daughter of John and Elizth Knight 15 Jan 1797
Henry son of John and Elizth Knight 5 Jan 1797
Thomas Knight Parish Clerk 28 Nov 1794
Henry son of John and Elizth Knight 21 Apr 1791
Ann widow of Henry Knight 21 Jun 1788
Henry Knight 2 Jun 1788
Jane daughter of John and Elizabeth Knight 31 Jan 1787
Mary Knight widow 16 Aug 1786
David son of John and Elizabeth Knight 19 Jan 1786
Joseph son of Jo and Elizth Knight 4 Sep 1785
David son of Henry and Ann Knight 25 Dec 1777
Henry son of Henry and Ann Knight 23 Sep 1773


Marriages
No. 94 Ellis Knight of this Parish and Eleanor Knight of this Parish were Married in this Church by Banns this 29 Day of May in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Four by me Th: Toppings Clerk. This Marriage was solemnized between us, The Mark X of Ellis Knight, Eleanor Knight in the Presence of William Knight and Mary Elford (my 3x great grandparents - Ellis and Eleanor Knight)

No. 93 William Knight of this parish Widower and Elizabeth Mitchel were married in this Church by Banns this eighth day of April in the year One Thousand eight Hundred and four by me Ed Binfield Curate. This marriage was solemnized between us, William Knight, The X Mark of Elizth Mitchel. In the presence of John Banting and Henry Knight.

William Knight of this parish widower and Sarah Loader of the same place were married in this Church by Banns this third day of November in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety eight by me Thomas Rackett Rector. This marriage was solemnized between us Willian Knight and Sarah Loader In the Presence of Tho[ma]s Loader and Henry Knight.

 No. 16 William Knight of this parish Bachelor and Anne Ballet of the same place spinster married in this church by Banns this twenty third day of October in the year One thousand seven hundred and eighty six by me Thomas Rackett Rector This Marriage was solemnized between us William Knight, Ann Ballet. In the Presence of Thomas Knight, George Ballet

Banns
Henry Knight and Ann Holloway (married 13 Apr 1799 at Silton, Dorset)
John Knight and Elizabeth Barnes (Kingston)
John Knight and Anne Vincent (Shapwick) (married 3 Jun 1783 at Shapwick, Dorset)

On the previous research day I did build families with the material but will wait until I have made all the extractions from all the parishes before redoing. It will be interesting if I can solve any mysteries with this information. I am confident going back to Henry Knight and Mary Oliver as Eleanor's parents but is William also a descendant of Henry Knight (father of Ellis)?

Knight families at Spetisbury

Following yesterday's revelations on the Knight families at Spetisbury I decided to separate the families out from the transcription of the Knight family in the Spetisbury Parish Registers. I did not actually do this transcription but hope to be able to see the Spetisbury Parish Registers once Ancestry has added the earlier Dorset records to their site.

Using the extracted Parish Register information for Spetisbury and the OPC Dorset website for earlier marriages in the Knight family there I will build the family groupings.

Henry Knight married Mary Oliver 25 Dec 1727 at Spetisbury

Thomas Knight 
Henry Knight
David Knight baptized 2 May 1736

Henry Knight (Junior)  married Ann Holloway 6 Jun 1754 (father Henry Knight)
(data likely missing)
Henry Knight baptized 21 Mar 1764; buried 20 Sep 1773
Sarah Knight baptized 2 Feb 1766
Elizabeth Knight baptized 24 Feb 1768; buried 26 Feb 1768
David Knight baptized 20 May 1770
Henry Knight baptized 3 Apr 1774
David Knight baptized 27 Dec 1777

David Knight married Martha Butler 17 Feb 1756 (father Henry Knight)
John Knight baptized 2 Oct 1757
(Data likely missing)
William Knight baptized 5 Feb 1764
Thomas Knight baptized 13 Dec 1772
Henry Knight baptized 21 Nov 1773
Mary Knight baptized 26 Jan 1777
George Knight baptized 1 Oct 1778

Thomas Knight married Martha
Henry Knight baptized 26 Jan 1777
George Knight baptized 1 Oct 1778

John Knight married Elizabeth
Joseph Knight baptized ?; buried 4 Sep 1785
David Knight baptized 2 May 1784; buried 19 Jan 1786
Jane Knight baptized 1 Jan 1786; buried 31 Jan 1787
David Knight baptized 16 Dec 1787
Henry Knight baptized 1 Dec 1789; buried 21 Apr 1791
Jane Knight baptized 21 Apr 1791
Charlotte Knight baptized 3 Jun 1792
Mary Ann Knight baptized 7 Oct 1792
Harriet Knight baptized 3 Mar 1794; buried 13 Jan 1796
Henry Knight baptized 17 Sep 1795; buried 5 Jan 1796
Henry Knight baptized 25 Sep 1798


John Knight  married Ann Vincent 9 Jun 1783 (at Shapwick)

Joseph Knight baptized 24 Aug 1785
Eleanor Knight baptized 12 Dec 1786
Sophia Knight baptized 25 Sep 1789
Martha Knight baptized 8 Oct 1796
Maria Knight baptized Jan 1797 ?
John Knight baptized 30 Nov 1800

William Knight married Ann Ballet 23 Oct 1786 (Thomas Knight witness)
Charles Knight baptized 28 Jun 1789
Elizabeth Anne baptized 16 Oct 1791
James Knight baptized 3 Jul 1794
Jemima Knight baptized 13 Nov 1797

Thomas Knight married Elizabeth
Mary Ann Knight baptized 3 Jun 1792

Thomas Knight married Ann
Mary Knight baptized 30 Jan 1794
Ann Knight baptized 15 Dec 1795
Joseph Knight baptized 29 Apr 1798

William Knight (widower) married Sarah Loader 3 Nov 1798 (Henry Knight witness)
William Knight baptized 22 Sep 1799
James Knight baptized 11 May 1802
Hannah Knight baptized 22 Mar 1807
George Knight baptized 20 Aug 1809
Harry Knight baptized 24 May 1812

Henry Knight married Ann Holloway 13 Apr 1799
Benjamin Knight baptized 22 Mar 1799
Henrietta Knight baptized 11 Jan 1801
Mary Ann Knight baptized 26 Dec 1802
Eliza Knight baptized 21 Oct 1804
Eliz Knight baptized 25 Feb 1807
Jane Knight baptized 30 Oct 1808
George Knight baptized 1 Oct 1810

William Knight (widower) married Elizabeth Mitchell 8 Apr 1804 (Henry Knight witness)
David Knight baptized 16 Aug 1807
William Knight baptized 8 Oct 1810; buried 8 Oct 1810


Ellis Knight married Eleanor Knight 29 May 1804 (William Knight witness)
Ellis Knight baptized 27 Jul 1806
George Knight baptized 28 Jun 1808
Mary Ann Knight baptized 26 Nov 1809
Samuel Knight baptized 8 Nov 1811; buried 14 Jul 1823 (at Turnworth)
Maria Knight baptized 16 Feb 1814
Henry Knight baptized 28 Jan 1816
Elizabeth Knight baptized 30 Aug 1818 (at Turnworth)
Edward Knight baptized 12 Nov 1820 (at Turnworth); buried 8 Nov 1841 (at Turnworth)
John Knight baptized 18 May 1823 (at Turnworth)
Thomas Knight baptized 24 Apr 1825 (at Turnworth)
Samuel Knight baptized 25 May 1828 (at Turnworth and my 2x great grandfather)
Martha Knight baptized 21 Nov 1830 (at Turnworth)
George Knight b c 1831 (at Turnworth)

From the Militia Rolls of 1787 at Spetisbury there are the following Knight males listed:

John KNIGHT  bricklayer  1 child

John  KNIGHT  ?servant, bricklayer
   
Willm.  KNIGHT  bricklayer
   
There are two John Knight families at Spetisbury in 1787. John Knight married to Ann Vincent has two children (Eleanor was born at the end of 1786) and John Knight married to Elizabeth has buried all of their children with one born near the end of 1787. More evidence would be nice but it would appear perhaps that John Knight bricklayer with 1 child is the John Knight married to Ann Vincent. William Knight bricklayer would appear to be William married to Ann Ballet and later Sarah  Loader. William and Ann were married in Oct 1786 and did not have a child until after 1787.

This charting has been somewhat helpful but I still do not have a clear line back before John Knight since there are two John Knight families at Spetisbury in this time interval. Going through the burials might be helpful to see when these two men died - one John Knight was buried 17 Nov 1826 and by his age at death he is likely the John Knight baptized 2 Oct 1757 and the son of David Knight and Martha Butler but was he the husband of Ann Vincent. I shall need to re-examine the burial records for Spetisbury.

The other interesting item is my other 4x great grandfather William Knight married to Sarah Ellis 7 Aug 1775 at Winterborne Stickland. There really isn't any evidence to prove that this William Knight was ever living at Spetisbury. There was a William Knight son of David Knight and Martha Butler baptized 5 Feb 1764 but he is likely the William Knight who married Ann Ballet and then Sarah Loader and was a bricklayer at Spetisbury. Looking at the Winterborne Stickland records will be most interesting once they are available on Ancestry before 1813.

But again I do not know the history of the Knight family at Spetisbury prior to 1727 when Henry Knight married  Mary Oliver. My suspicion is that these two families are linked but I have no idea how far back - the naming of the 13 children of Ellis and Eleanor Knight is most interesting.

There was a John Knight who married Elizabeth Kebble 31 May 1778 at St Peters Shaftesbury Dorset. This is the location for the William Knight/Mary Dashwood marriage as well. There is a family lore that the Knight family were stone masons/bricklayers in Cann and gradually moved down to the Blandford Forum area from the mid 1600s on.

Vincent at Spetisbury

The Vincent family at Spetisbury remains completely unknown to me. Ann Vincent married John Knight 9 Jun 1783 at Spetisbury. John Knight was not the son of William Knight and Mary Dashwood it would appear but was he a brother to William Knight father of Ellis Knight who married Eleanor daughter of John Knight and Ann Vincent? That is one of the puzzles that I hope the Dorset registers for the 1700s (once they are up on Ancestry) might help to solve. Most Knight researchers do make this connection and I have accepted their statements but remain unconvinced although do have the family lore of a cousin relationship between Ellis and Eleanor.

The OPC Dorset site does offer a list for the marriages at Spetisbury in the 1700s and I find:

9 Aug 1792 John Vincent and Elizabeth Evans married with Thomas Knight as a witness (Thomas though was often a witness so probably doesn't mean anything particularly)

2 Apr 1793 Joseph Vincent of Dewlish and Elizabeth Meader married (Thomas Knight witness)

24 Jul 1796 George Florance and Elizabeth Vincent married

26 Mar 1799 Benjamin Garrett and Amelia Vincent married (Henry Knight witness and again he was often so)

The next Vincent marriages are into the 1830s. I am curious why the marriage of John Knight and Ann Vincent in 1783 does not appear as other researchers have given me this information. From 1754 onwards where the listing of witnesses is recorded there is often a member of the Knight family with the earlier Knight being Henry. By 1774 the Knight member is Thomas. and by 1794 we are back to Henry Knight. 

The militia list of 1787 for Spetisbury lists two John Knight - one is a bricklayer with 1 child and the second is a servant bricklayer (apprentice perhaps?). There is also a William Knight bricklayer. By 1787 John and Ann Knight appear to have just the one child Eleanor Knight. Is the date of their marriage in error (and the place). The mention of a Vincent at Dewlish attracted my interest. There are a lot of Vincent marriages at Dewlish but not a marriage for John Knight and Ann Vincent. There are eight children attributed to this couple by other researchers:

Eleanor Knight baptized 12 Dec 1786 at Spetisbury (married to Ellis Knight and my 2x great grandparents)

Elizabeth Ann Knight born circa 1790 and married to Ambrose Cousins 31 Mar 1818 at Spetisbury

Thomas Knight born circa 1794 at Spetisbury

Jemina Knight born circa 1798 at Spetisbury married to Thomas Randall 22 Aug 1825 at Spetisbury

Benjamin Knight born circa 1799 at Spetisbury married to Caroline Loader 26 Sep 1820 at Spetisbury

Joseph Knight born circa 1800 at Spetisbury married to Ann Robbins 23 Sep 1822 at Corfe Mullen

James Knight born circa 1802 at Spetisbury married to Frances Butcher 16 Aug 1829 at St Pancras (London)

Samuel Knight born circa 1806 at Spetisbury

I am left to ponder whether these are all their children and the next research day for Vincent may find the earlier registers for Dorset online at Ancestry.