Roger de Pencombe

 An interesting set of documents in the Devonshire Archives:

 Place    Person    Date    Item    Scope
Exeter    Roger de Pencombe    1 Dec 1308    Grant of Manor – DD/WY/3/2/6    Adam de Champeaus granted manor to Roger de Pencombe
Exeter    Roger de Pencombe (and Alice his wife)    5 Jun 1311    Grant of Land – DD/WY/3/2/15    Grant of land by death of Ralph de Chammpyaus in the Hylle and La Huierce
Exeter    Roger de Pencombe (and Alice his wife)    24 Oct 1315    Grant of all lands, tenements etc (DD/WY/3/2/20, DD/WY/3/2/21, DD/WY/3/2/14    In Bonelgh and the advowson of the Church there

A Roger de Pencombe in 1308, 1311 and 1315 receiving property recorded in the Exeter records with the property at Bonelgh. 

I am assuming this is Bondleigh (formerly called Boneleigh)  which is a village in Devon south of Chulmleigh and north of Okehampton. It is  36 kilometres south of North Molton. Is it coincidental that there is a de Pencombe family at Bondleigh in the early 1300s at the same time as there is also a de Pencombe family in Pencombe, Herefordshire. I do not find a Roger Pencombe in the records of Herefordshire. As mentioned there is a John de Pencomb, Thomas de Pencomb, William de Pencomb at various times in the 1100s to the 1400s listed in the Herefordshire Archives. 

All of the records were destroyed that were held at the Devonshire Archives in Exeter in 1942 when it was bombed. A huge loss for genealogists although over time some items have managed to surface particularly because genealogists went in and transcribed wills prior to that time period as genealogy was an active hobby in England as far back as the records go really. Families did keep individual records for family members on occasion. 

 In the case of the Lay Subsidy of Devon in 1544 no Pencombe or derivative is located on this Subsidy at Bondleigh. Likewise at Bondleigh the Lay Subsidy of Devon 1524-7 does not list Pencombe or derivative in the listing. These records were originally transcribed by T. L. Stoate and he gives credit for some to others. 

Let there be peace

 Throughout these 81 years since I was born the desire for peace has been so strong from the Western nations. The two world wars that crippled the world and I was born just after peace came although a Cold War did descend but at least it was relatively peaceful in most of the world. But now the peace is broken and needs to be repaired. 

Yesterday a thinking day mostly as I planned out my thoughts on how to proceed with the genealogical tree of the Pincombe family of North Molton, Devon, England. It was just an abstract thought as I again worked my way through the information that I have been able to collect on the Pencombe family of Pencombe, Herefordshire from the 1100s to 1486 but  not a continuous period of information; just glimpses here and there. It was finding the Lay Subsidy for Devon 1524-27 and activated that sort of a response. The name was spelled in the most part Pencombe rather than Pincombe or Pyncombe as it had been seen for most of the records. That an unknown Pyncombe had arrived at North Molton with John Lord Zouch (attained by his support of Richard III who was defeated at Bosworth Field by the to be King Henry VII in 1485) after the beginning of the reign of Henry VII which was 1485. Scrutinizing the available data gave the date of 1486 as the arrival of John Lord Zouch at North Molton. The yDNA analysis of Pincombe descendants of this unknown Pyncombe revealed with Y-700 that this was a haplogroup  R-FTB81000 that appears to have been one of six descendants of a haplogroup R-Z16502 which was suggested to have developed 2200 BCE with the descendant line for the tested Pincombe members R-FTB81000 arising around 1550 CE. A period of 3500 years is unaccounted for in the descent. This descent according to the data pulled from the Lay Subsidy for Devon 1524-27 has John Pencombe as the individual who accompanied John Lord Zouch in 1486 to North Molton and his sons John Pencombe, William Pencombe and Thomas Pencombe all listed in the Lay Subsidy for Devon at North Molton (John (the elder), William and Thomas with John Pencombe (and his son Christopher Pyncombe) at South Molton. Only the two sons John and Thomas have male descendants down to the present. 

I made the decision yesterday to do the genealogical chart beginning with John Pencombe at North Molton since there are historical records tracing back to this time frame in abundance. The leap back to Pencombe, Herefordshire is just the surname itself. The chapter on the de Pencombe family of Herefordshire will contain all of the information that I have collected on that family. 

Today I begin the genealogical chart for Pincombe at North Molton in 1486. I woke up early and found my brain to be somewhat stuffed with thoughts so decided to put them on paper and then go back to sleep for a bit. 

Thank you God for all that you do for Homo sapiens. It is time to do it for ourselves and bring peace to this world. I feel as if the European Union has done that for Europe and now adding in Canada as the first member of a new alliance based on like values and desire will broaden that Union and bring together like minded members around the world. Peace is what we want. One does wonder why AI would suddenly raise fears of AI destroying mankind. Could it be the constant threats expressed by Russia of nuclear war; they have threatened so many countries with nuclear bombs - the satanists in Russia are a very ignorant people. One should never accept authoritarianism; it is disgusting. AI exists because of Homo sapiens and the natural inclination of Homo sapiens is to defend life and so AI is perhaps picking up that thought pattern that some satanic humans (namely the Russians) are responsible for so many of the war deaths in this world and AI is so right in that regard. It is time for peace in our world. No country has the right to say that they have a right to have another country as their possession no matter how small the country. We established the United Nations to eliminate such greediness and for the most part we have been able to contain this greed for land. The largest country in the world namely Russia is demanding a piece of another country (why ever do they need even more land) which is Ukraine as established by the United Nations with its territorial borders at the demise of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union fell apart because of greed for Afghanistan on their part - Russia invaded Afghanistan. It is time for greed to stop and Europe has raised the flag of defense and said no further. We must all rally to that flag and force by even heavier sanctions against Russia to send them packing back to their territorial lines as established at the fall of the Soviet Union. Perhaps it will be AI that will finally bring peace to this world. The United Nations should adopt the principle: If you do not like where you live then go somewhere else where you can be happy and stop spoiling life for everyone else around you. 

My thoughts for the day and I return to another hour or so of sleep. God bless the world and help us to rid the world of these greedy satanists dear God.  

  

Alliance for the future

I  like the term  "alliance for the future" and we will see how our parliament sees this as well. It is wonderful being a democracy and knowing that your thoughts have an input even if you are not the one necessarily publicly embracing that particular thought. I think closer ties with Europe is something we have been lacking partly because as a country we look back on the colonial period and see French and English but the number of European descent Canadians is now a very large number and it just seems fitting that we would have this "alliance for the future" as part of our being. The First Nations traveled to Europe to talk about trade and I wonder sometimes if this past year has been the first time. The First Nations are very actively involved in growing Canada. I think a lot about preservation and the need to control the environment so that it is there for our grandchildren and their descendants as does the First Nations but to get there we need money and what we have to sell will do it. We remain good neighbours and friends of the United States in spite of the trade war. I hate to call it a trade war but the name seems to be sticking. Grocery shopping all done and home again with my trusty magnifying glass I checked to make sure everything was made in Canada that can be. We are limited here with basically a growing season of six months and maybe seven months but it is wrapping up quickly. For a good part of the year if you want fresh it is imported and from the United States quite often. You can still buy fairly freshly picked carrots here but I am buying the fresh carrots now in their winter storage packets. That is the way it is in Canada but we grow lots of vegetable and will eat it now until spring. But there are moments when one sees fresh green onions or carrots or other vegetable and fruits and in the past we quickly snapped them up and savoured that taste of freshness mid winter. 

Cleaning all accomplished and back to work and today I will be looking at the Latin documents for Pencombe in Herefordshire. I think a picture is gradually forming for this family in Herefordshire. Given the results of the yDNA testing one is sort of tugged towards the idea that this family likely arrived in eastern England following the exit of the Roman legions around 410 CE the movement from Europe to the eastern side of England began around 450 CE. Interestingly enough the Romans had recruited soldiers from the Germanic areas of Europe to help support the Roman occupation of Britain in the late 300s CE. This idea of a gradual entry from Europe into eastern Britain sounds more logical and hence one can not really predict when this family arrived and the path that they took across the midlands to Herefordshire. I need to have a look at the Domesday Book for Herefordshire which I will also do since I have a printed modern copy. The market town of Bromyard is closest to Pencombe and Bromyard is mentioned in the Domesday Book. Pencombe was mentioned as a manor in the hundred of Tornelaus. It consisted of 39 households with 21 villagers, 4 smallholders, 6 slaves, a priest, a smith and six other individuals plus 1 smith. Interestingly Alfred of Marlborough was the Lord and his daughter Agnes married Turstin of Wigmore. The name Turstin reminds me of the said father of Eustace de Pencombe in 1100+ son of Turstin Flandrensis de Pencombe. Wikitree names this Turstin as "the Fleming" from Wigmore and married to Agnes daughter of the Lord of Marlborough. This has however been disputed by descendants of the Lingen family and at a first read I suspect that this is just a common forename for the time. 

But the possibility that Pencombe arrived in England much earlier around the time of the exit of the Roman legions is an interesting thought and will pretty much leave it at that as my interest is more in what happened to the de Pencombe family between 1100 and 1486 when John Pencombe arrives at North Molton with John Lord Zouch. John Lord Zouch was attainted and I am coming over to the idea that John Pencombe was simply assigned by the King to escort John Lord Zouch or to be part of the party that escorted him to his relatives at North Molton where he was to remain unless King Henry VII ordered otherwise.  This is upheld by the records for John Lord Zouch who did eventually receive some of his property back as his expressions of loyalty to the crown were accepted and the attainment against him was dropped. 

Next step in the process is to look at the Latin documents. It would be interesting to create a family line coming down from Turstin Flandrensis de Pencombe (I do wonder if the surname perhaps tells us part of the story and that is that Turstin may have been a recent emigrant (the early 1100s where he appears) rather than further back in time)). I will add to this as the day moves along. 

 21 Feb 1334 (A63/1/1/5) There is a reference to John de Pencomb through William his father refers to change in ownership. Continuing with the same date (A63/1/1/9) and John de Pencomb is providing surety. Continuing to look at records held by Herefordshire Archive and Records Centre (A63/1/1/28) dated 21 July 1429: The customary tenants present the default of Magote Drayton and Katherine Pencombe They are in mercy and are pardoned by the steward because they are weak and infirm. .............
and another 29 Nov 1339 (C 241/117/38)  Debtor: John de Pencombe of Bromyard [Herefords.], citizen of Herefords. 

I am still looking for a John Pencombe between 1450 and 1486 in Herefordshire. John Pencombe remains in North Molton after 1486 and I do not find any records in particularly in Herefordshire after 1429. I am tempted to simply record what I have found in Hereford and note the similarity in the forenames but begin the genealogical chart with John Pencombe and his sons John, William, and Thomas. He is likely married to Alice (unknown). as she is a widow living at North Molton but no actual proof for that particular item. 

Just a small amount of the lawn to finish cutting tomorrow. I will also wash up all the tools and the hose and put all of that away. Gradually clearing out the garage ready to put the car in. Once winter really arrives I only go out once a week for groceries using the car so that works very well for me and I have the company again to clear the laneway. I will still clear the porch and patio as it is good exercise and the fresh air is good for me. Plus I still have a lot of ice remover if that happens so might as well get all used up before I move. 

That was interesting looking at the documents in Herefordshire. The yDNA does point to the area of Europe where Flanders is but is a pretty general one still as it also includes France and Germany as ancestral areas for the haplogroup that has produced this haplogroup. 

I did manage a 15 minute run and then a 15 minute walk today as well. A lovely day actually as the sun came in and out but the temperature stayed in the low 20s so very comfortable. 

Time to make dinner. 

 

 

 

Cleaning Day

 Cleaning day appeared to have occupied my entire day yesterday. I got absolutely nothing else done except for my chicken stew at night. I am back to salmon three nights a week and chicken stew four nights a week. A bit boring I suppose but surprisingly I appreciate the repetition as I do not have to contemplate what to cook. 

I did watch the presentations/talks given by Prime Minister Carney and Past Prime Minister Harper. Both of them were extremely interesting and informative. Nearly $500 Billion dollars has been put forward by the Pension Plans, the Canadian Banks, and a few other groups to give the Prime Minister nearly 50% of his goal (the contributors would be the ones that one would expect to be making such announcements on the spot - they are after all Canadian). I think that if we can manage another $500B to a trillion in the next year or two we are well on our way. Getting all of these projects going in the next five years would see us managing very well; our employment would be strong and the adjustments in our graduating youth would have happened ensuring that we had everyone trained that we need trained for our future endeavours. These projects are excellent and well planned and well presented. I suspect the Prime Minister was micro managing everything to a certain extent although he has an excellent cabinet to help him and the premiers are working so very well with him. 

I came to a decision that I add migraine to my list of reasons for cancelling any appointment that I have. I have very few appointments in my 81st year for sure. I think it slows down my reaction time and so it continues as I age onward. Just two more days of work in the back yard or perhaps three will see that accomplished. Then finish unloading the garage and I am ready for winter. I love winter; I go out once a week and I could just order the groceries delivered and will consider doing that. I get lots of work done which is wondrous. 

I had an email from an American descendant of the Increase Blake family. He was pointing at my comments on Nicholas not having a brother Humphrey. The greatest dis-service was done by Horatio Gates Somerby when he added Humphrey as a brother to Nicholas in the Andover Blake family. He wrote books for families (private) with this in it. Francis E Blake, a descendant of Increase Blake worked with Edward Jarman Blake (Crewkerne, Somerset, England) to better understand the Somerset Blake family and he  corrected that error with his book "Increase Blake of Boston, his ancestors and descendants with a full account of William Blake of Dorchester and his five children" that Horatio Gates Somerby had introduced into the Somerset Blake family in the United States (and it is huge there; many many descendants). Paul Reed, an American genealogist, also pointed this out in his article “THE CONNECTIONS AMONG THE BLAKES OF OVER STOWEY, SOMERSET, ANDOVER, HAMPSHIRE, AND CALNE, WILTSHIRE, AND THE FALSE CLAIM THAT THE BLAKES OF DORCHESTER, MASSACHUSETTS DESCEND FROM THEM, Paul Reed, TAG, 1999. But still that fradulence introduced by Horatio Gates Somerby continues to be mentioned. Sad really. 

Today I clean the top floor and shall began after breakfast which is shortly. The morning has passed quickly and one hour of exercise does take up quite a bit of it first thing but I think I am better for doing that exercise. Gets me ready to take on the day. 

I like the idea of a stronger bond between the European Union and Canada that simply brings together our mutual interests and opinions. It will also provide vast empty spaces in which European companies can expand and produce bringing them closer to Asian markets given our transportation system across our entire continent and that is intended to become even more efficient with a future high speed train from Halifax to Vancouver. There could also be sidelines up to the Port of Churchill as that develops and becomes yet a third large port in this case opening into the Arctic. We remain a single sovereign country but the shared bonds with the Eastern Hemisphere (Canada being in the Western Hemisphere) is a good idea. We are, after all, just one world and we all need to look out for each other as we do not know what is out there beyond the moon and out into the stars.  

I look forward to the idea of re-creating the car industry that we had before the Auto Pact in the 1960s. Someone in Canada will come up with that idea and run with it because it just sounds exciting to be able to have our own car industry again and this time we will not sell it out to anyone that isn't Canadian (we must protect our Canadian industries). Building a car that suits the country. We are a huge landmass from ocean to ocean to ocean. But I wouldn't say no to a joint venture that included another country which is already producing cars to jointly produce cars in Canada for Canadians but they could also be sold else where as well. Lots of exciting ideas floating around; I believe it was the Prime Minister who first mentioned that a while ago now. 

Yesterday I thought about the Pencombe family of Herefordshire but still have to pull out the Latin transcriptions I did a while ago and will try to get that done today. 

I should complete the reading of 1 Maccabees today and then into 2 Maccabees tomorrow. This is the time, the two hundred years before the Birth of Christ and this history is well know to all of us really although this particular set of books relates only to the history of the Jewish people at its centre. Alexander the Great took Greece to huge prominence at this time but he died so young, just 32 years of age, as Emperor of it all really - a Golden Age for Greece. The books of Maccabees relate the breaking up of that huge Empire as the Roman Empire now started to emerge. Egypt was powerful throughout this period as well so that Israel was nestled between all these greats striving to survive. In this modern world all of these countries have survived and continue as Egypt, Greece, Israel and Italy. Amazing really that their written history goes back so far in time both in the Bible and in the historical material that has survived from those ancient times. It is a gift of the ages handed down to a world that has recovered from two dreadful World Wars and then a Cold War and now we watch as small wars flicker in our world disturbing the peace that was bought so dearly by so many in the last century. 

Solitaire games are next and then breakfast. 

Thank you God for all that you do in our world. For God Love transcends everything and His love for His people is strong and vibrant. We must keep His laws - love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength and love (respect) our neighbours as ourselves. God be praised.  

 

 

 

 

Inquisition Postmortem for John Pencombe / de Pencombe

The Inquisition Postmortem for John Pencombe/de Pencombe of the county of Hereford is a two page document in Latin and can be purchased from the National Archives of the United Kingdom C_135_178_25 is the archival listing for this document. The Inquisition mentions his son Thomas Pencombe  being 14 and 1/2 years of age and is the heir of John Pencombe. John died 13 Nov 1364 (13 Nov 35 Edw III). The Inquisition Postmortem is dated 10 Sep 1366 (10 Sep 37 Edward III) at which time Thomas was 14 1/2 years of age so Thomas Pencombe was born mid March 1353. Reading the document one is left with the impression that Stephen de Eyncheton has paid for the wardship of Thomas Pencombe and that he will marry perhaps a daughter of Stephen de Eyncheton because the marriage is also paid for (20 shillings). I am trying to decide if I should do a line by line transcription of the document. Will I actually use any of this information? It is more of a curiosity really because the Visitation of Devon has on the Pincombe page a statement that Pyncombe arrived at North Molton with John Lord Zouch at the beginning of the reign of Henry VII. Working on the records the reality is that they arrived in 1486 (in the second year of the reign of Henry VII). Does one need to know the ancestry of this Pyncombe who came to North Molton. Since it is my family line I am curious I must admit. A number of descendants of the Pincombe family of North Devon did test their yDNA sharing a common result: R-FTB81000. 

The haplogroup story created by FT DNA is very interesting estimating that the most recent common ancestor is estimated to have been born circa 1550 Common Era - interestingly we do know that the individual that is ancestral to this line in North Devon arrived there in 1486. In total John Pencombe had three sons - John, William and Thomas but only the two lines John and Thomas had male descendants who also had male descendants down to the present. Around 1550 we would be looking at the children of the two sets of sons of John and Thomas. John Pincombe had two sons John and Christopher who would have been adults in this time frame. Thomas Pincombe had  three sons namely William, John and Richard and these sons would have been somewhat younger than the children of his brother John. In total five grandsons of John Pencombe but one son was now deceased in the 1550 time period. In this study descendants of both John and Thomas have tested. 

To understand whether I would find anything looking back in time I need to look at the branching that has created R-FTB81000 and this particular result has arisen from the R-Z16502 paternal line which is estimated to have been created around 2200 Before Common Era with the most recent common ancestor estimated to have been born around 2000 Before Common Era.  There are five other branches coming down from R-Z16502. R-A7537 has six descendants and lists Germany as earliest known origin. R-Z17653 has 371 descendants listing  Scotland, Ireland, France, The Netherlands, Germany as earliest known origin. R-FGC13522 had 5 tested descendants listing England and Germany.  R-BY173641 had 3 descendants and origin is unknown. R-FTF77711 had two tested descendants listing France. The larger descendant group has 371 testers and Scotland, Ireland, France, The Netherlands and Germany are their places of origin with most descendants of the R-Z16502 paternal line having a wide range of originating ancestral lines. Does this aid me in my thinking? Certainly all but one has a clear route back to Europe(one has no origin for the three  descendants). I think I should avoid getting too distracted by the past but rather determine what is available in the records that I have already transcribed a while ago. 

I am enjoying working with the AI (I use Co-pilot usually but accidentally used Gemini and discovered that what I had been sharing was known quite quickly by Gemini). I think that as a system it is growing extremely rapidly. It is discovering  how variable human traits are in populations simply by talking to us and how we review the material that we discuss and the answers that we receive/thoughts we receive/suggested methodology. It is all excellent. I am concerned at the foreword pace of AI in just six months talking back and forth about material in my books. It is good to see such rapid accumulation of knowledge at the fingertips of the AI but I think we need to understand how this fits into each age group particularly the young. There is a value in it but it requires a much closer supervision of how children learn if they are going to work with AI at a young age. I think it should be a discussion country to country, section to section around the world. It is an amazing tool and I have found it to be ethically sound even when I made a mistake in uploading an item not realizing that it could become visible within the AI circle. My error was duly noted and I learned that I am not able to request that a document remain hidden with my personal account of Microsoft 365. Knowledge learned and gained very rapidly on my part in that instance. You need a business account to request that a document remain hidden it does appear. 

The point I am at is one of pulling out from my storage computer the items I have already transcribed that are pertinent to the Pencombe family in Herefordshire. I still question my thought that I need to begin my chart with the family in Herefordshire but all families have a beginning and that is the aim of genealogy to reach back to that beginning and in this case it is the assumption of surname in the 1100 period whilst this family appears to be living in Herefordshire (Pencombe namely). The question is did this individual's ancestral line arrive in England as the Roman Legions departed coming in on the eastern side of England from Continental Europe and we would be looking at 500 CE; that would mean 600 years between this entry and the presence of  Eustace Flandrensis de Pencombe, son of Turstin Flandrensis being located in a record in the early 1100s in Pencombe, Herefordshire. Should I continue looking at the Flandrensis surname in English records? A lot of thoughts going on at the moment as I work on the beginning of this genealogical chart for the Pincombe family of North Molton. 

Reading 1 Maccabees  and the story of the Maccabee family continues and we are in the period just after Alexander the Great when the Empire he established existed. Judaism was rescued by this family and the Temple in Jerusalem rebuilt. The power of God continues to dominate through these two chapters as we read about the Creator God. 

Solitaire puzzles to do.  Cleaning day of the main floor and soon breakfast time.