Rosa de Lima Séguin dite Ladéroute married Antoine Grégoire 30 Aug 1869 at Basilica de Notre Dame, Ottawa and her parents were identified as Antoine Séguin dit Ladéroute and Marie-Anne Groux who were themselves married 21 Jul 1851 also at Basilica de Notre Dame, Ottawa.
M 31 Antoine Ladéroute et Marianne Groux
Le vingt-un juillet mil huit cent cinquante-un
dispense de deux bans accordé et publication un fois fait
d'une paroisse de mariage entre Antoine Ladéroute, de Bytown,
fils majeur de Joseph Ladéroute et de Françoise de Chantale
Brabant, d'une part, et Marianne Groux, de Bytown, fille
majeure de Louis Groux et de Marie-Anne Lafantasie
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement, nous
prete soussigné, curé de Bytown, avons reçu le mutuel consente
ment des parties contractantet et leur avons donné la bénédic
tion nuptiale, en présence de Jean Baptiste Foubert, de
Edouard Robillard et autres, Antoine Pérault, Rosalie
Barthiaume.
D Dandurand Pretre
The parents of Antoine Ladéroute being thus identified as Joseph Ladéroute and Françoise de Chantal Brabant who were themselves married 10 Jan 1803 at Oka (Deux Montagnes).
M Jos. Séguin et Jeanne Brabant
L'an mil huit cent trois le dix janvier après
la publication de trois bans nous soussigné _____
j'ai donné la bénédiction nuptiale a Joseph
Séguin fils maueur hyacinte Séguin cap ______
et de Susanne Leger de le paroisse _____ et a Jeanne
braban fille mineure de louis braban et défunte
catherine touranjeau aprés avoir reçu leur consente
ment mutuel en présence de jean _____
touranjeau grandpere de l;épouse et
charles braban oncle de l'épouse d'
antoine touranjeau, louis braban _____ de
l'époux, _____Seguin frere de l'époux et
Guillaume Seguin les quels ont ___déclare ne la voir
l'époux _____
signe avec nous
____ Barbart [signed]
Lacoste Pretre
The parents of Joseph Séguin dit Ladéroute being thus identified Hyacinte Séguin et Susanne Léger who were themselves married 26 Feb 1770 Pointe-Claire (Montréal).
M Hiacinte Séguin et Suzanne Léger
La publication de deux bans faite par dex dimanches consecutifs
au prone de la messe paroissials entre hiacinte Séguin veuf de
M Elizabeth Brabant, fils de feu Louis Séguin dit Ladéroute et de
Marianne Raizenne Ses pere et mere de la paroisse de Soulange
d'une part, et susanne Léger fille de charles Léger dit parisien et de
Françoise leduc ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part
(et semblable publication ayant été faite d'autre paroisse de Sou
lange comme il ____ app___ par le Certificant de Monsiegneur denault curé
missionaire d'écolle costa entre nos mains) sans avoir découvert
aucun empechement ni opposition, je soussigné ayant reçu
leur mutuel consentement de présent mariage Nous ay donné
la bénédiction nuptiale (non obstrant la defaut de la publication
d'une ban dont les deux parties ont obtenu dispense de ____
Montgoltier grand vicaire de ce diocese no_______ mains
en présence de françois seguin frere, hiacinte germain beau
frere de l'époux qui a signé dud. charles leger pere et
Rene Leduc oncle de l'épouse qui n'ont su signer de la
_______
germaint andre germain [signed]
antoine lalonde [signed]
Sartalon Pretre
The parents of Hyacinthe being thus identified as Louis Séguin dit Ladéroute and Marie Anne Raizenne who were themselves married 8 Apr 1736 at Oka. This marriage is found in Tanguay although the date is not recorded. I have not yet found the marriage but this is the date generally used for this marriage. The parents of Louis Séguin were identified as Jean Baptiste Séguin and Geneviève Barbeau who were themselves married 7 Jun 1710 at Boucherville. The parents of Jean Baptiste Séguin are identified as François Séguin and Françoise Jeanne Petit and they were married 31 Oct 1672 at Boucherville. François was the emigrant and so Generation 1. The present family is descended from three children of François Séguin and Jeanne Petit. Jean Petit was a Fille des Roi.
Jean Baptiste Séguin married to Geneviève Barbeau is Generation 2. His brother Pierre Séguin married to Marie Barbe Filion 4 Feb 1704 at Boucherville is Generation 2. Their daughter Françoise Séguin married to Antoine Vermet 17 Apr 1730 at St François (ile de Jesus) is Generation 3. His sister Françoise Séguin married Charles Patenotre 8 Feb 1694 at Montréal and is Generation 2.
Louis Séguin (son of Jean Baptiste) married to Marie Anne Raizenne is Generation 3. This generation is descended from two other sons of Jean Baptiste namely Jean Baptiste Séguin dit Ladéroute who married Catherine Raizenne and is Generation 3. The daughter of this Jean Baptiste and Catherine was Elisabeth Séguin dite Ladéroute and she married Antoine Quesnel 15 Nov 17612 at Lac des Deux Montagnes and is Generation 4. Pierre Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Jean Baptiste) married Marie Josephte Mallet 3 Feb 1739 at Ste Anne de Bellevue (Montréal) and is Generation 3. The daughter of Pierre and Marie Josephte was Marie Geneviève Séguin dite Ladéroute and she married Jean Noel Tourangeau and is Generation 4.
Hyacinthe Pascal Séguin dit Ladéroute married Marie Elizabeth Brabant 16 Nov 1761 at Ste Anne de Bellevue (Montréal) and is Generation 4. Hyacinthe also married Suzanne Léger and is Generation 4. This generation is also descended from the sister of Hyacinthe Marie Catherine Séguin who married Captain Françoise Villeneuve 18 Aug 1783 at Oka and is Generation 4.
Joseph Athanase Séguin (son of Hyacinthe and Suzanne) married to Jeanne Françoise de Chantale Brabant is Generation 5. Hyacinthe Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Hyacinthe and Marie Elizabeth) married to Marie Louise Rouleau 7 Feb 1785 at Vaudreuil is Generation 5.
Antoine Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Joseph and Jeanne Françoise) married to Marie Anne Groux is Generation 6. Hyacinthe Séguin (son of Hyacinthe and Marie Louise Rouleau) married to Marie Monique Villeneuve 16 Apr 1812 at Vaudreuil is Generation 6. Their daughter Antoinette Séguin married to Julien Vital Bertrand 7 Feb 1842 at L'Original is Generation 7.
Rosa de Lima Séguin dit Ladéroute (daughter of Antoine and Marie Anne) married to Antoine Grégoire is Generation 8.
A very complicated descendancy for the Séguin dit Ladéroute family of the present generation and I will continue to transcribe documents on future research days. The present family is also descended from the emigrant Jacques Séguin married to Marie Badel 28 Nov 1689 at Montréal (son of Jean Séguin married to Marguerite Dupuis in France) and Jacques is Generation 1. Their daughter Barbé Charlotte Séguin married to Pierre Sabourin 23 Nov 1716 at Montréal is Generation 2.
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Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Monday, June 20, 2011
Hémard dit Pot[e]vin family
Marguerite Hémard married Nicolas Joseph Grégoire 6 Feb 1837 and her parents were identified as Jean Pierre Hémard and Catherine Payant who were themselves married 14 Oct 1782 at La prairie. Their marriage proved to be quite elusive in that neither of their surnames matches the spellings given to them on their daughter's marriage lines.
Mariage Pierre Aimard et Catherine St Onge
Le quatorze octobre mil sept cent quatre vingt
deux après la publication des trois Bans de mariage
faite au prone de nos grandes messes de paroisse entre
pierre aimard fils d'antoine aimard et de Marie Bourgis
Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'une part, et Catherine
St Onge fil de Jean Baptiste Payant dit St Onge et de
Catherine Lérigée Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empec
hement au dit mariage nous soussigné curé avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale suivant la forme proscrite
par Notre Mere de St Eglise et __ en présence de
Simon Bawret, François _____ pour l'époux et pour
l'épouse pierre le _____; Ne _____ d'autre parents et
________ que ____
_____ Lecture faite Suivant ___
Simon Bawret [signed]
B denau [signed]
A M
J Bte Payant [signed]
lacvoits makillipe [signed]
margueritte makillipe [signed]
J G Lafroix [signed]
A lot of work to do on that transcription but it does identify the parents of Pierre Aimard as Antoine Aimard and Marie Bourgis who were themselves married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The similarity is so much that Pierre Aimard must be Pierre Hémard.The marriage of Antoine Hémard and Marie Bourget is in Tanguay where the names are spelled Antoine Aymard and Marie-Joseph Bourgery who were married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The parents of Antoine were Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Bloys although the marriage lines read Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Belois when they married 6 Feb 1702 at Longueuil. The parents of Pierre were married in France and the marriage lines suggest that they still live in France. Hence Pierre Aymard married to Marguerite Belois are Generation 1.
Antoine Aymard married to Marie-Joseph Bourgery is Generation 2.
Pierre Hémard married to Catherine Payette dite St Onge is Generation 3.
Marguerite Hémard married to Nicolas Joseph Grégoire is Generation 4.
The next research day I will continue my transcriptions of the records.
Mariage Pierre Aimard et Catherine St Onge
Le quatorze octobre mil sept cent quatre vingt
deux après la publication des trois Bans de mariage
faite au prone de nos grandes messes de paroisse entre
pierre aimard fils d'antoine aimard et de Marie Bourgis
Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'une part, et Catherine
St Onge fil de Jean Baptiste Payant dit St Onge et de
Catherine Lérigée Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empec
hement au dit mariage nous soussigné curé avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale suivant la forme proscrite
par Notre Mere de St Eglise et __ en présence de
Simon Bawret, François _____ pour l'époux et pour
l'épouse pierre le _____; Ne _____ d'autre parents et
________ que ____
_____ Lecture faite Suivant ___
Simon Bawret [signed]
B denau [signed]
A M
J Bte Payant [signed]
lacvoits makillipe [signed]
margueritte makillipe [signed]
J G Lafroix [signed]
A lot of work to do on that transcription but it does identify the parents of Pierre Aimard as Antoine Aimard and Marie Bourgis who were themselves married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The similarity is so much that Pierre Aimard must be Pierre Hémard.The marriage of Antoine Hémard and Marie Bourget is in Tanguay where the names are spelled Antoine Aymard and Marie-Joseph Bourgery who were married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The parents of Antoine were Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Bloys although the marriage lines read Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Belois when they married 6 Feb 1702 at Longueuil. The parents of Pierre were married in France and the marriage lines suggest that they still live in France. Hence Pierre Aymard married to Marguerite Belois are Generation 1.
Antoine Aymard married to Marie-Joseph Bourgery is Generation 2.
Pierre Hémard married to Catherine Payette dite St Onge is Generation 3.
Marguerite Hémard married to Nicolas Joseph Grégoire is Generation 4.
The next research day I will continue my transcriptions of the records.
Thursday, June 16, 2011
Grégoire Family
I corrected the transcriptions of 3 May 2011 for the Grégoire family. I debated how to do my re-looks at the transcriptions and the best way would be to go back and correct them and post on the latest Grégoire post that I had done so with a date; since this blog is primarily a research tool for me that would seem to be the best methodology.
M de nicolas Grégoire et de Thérèse de coste
le vingt d'aout mil sept cent quatre v
ingt dix huit par nous pretre soussigné curé
de St Constant, après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite au prone de nos messes parois
siales par trois dimanches consecutifs entre
nicolas grégoire laboureur fils majeur de feu nicolas grégoire
et de catherine guerin ses pere et mere de la
paroisse de chateaugai d'une part et thérèse
de coste dit lafleur fille majeure de feu jean b[aptis]te decoste
et de thérèse pouliot ses pere et mere de cette
paroisse d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert
aucun empechement ni issue de probition
au dit mariage connu il apert part certificat
de monsieur bryer curé de chateaugai avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement du cons
entement des parents et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptialle selon la forme
proscripte par votre mere la sainte eglise
paroisse et usage du diocese en présence
de jean guerin oncle de l'époux et qui lui a le ___
de pere d'amable guerin oncle de l'époux,
de michel lefebvre oncle de l'époux de françois
fosset beau pere de l'époux et de plusieurs autres
parents et amis de l'époux et de l'épouse qui ont
déclare ne savoir signer après lecture faite
qui vaut ______
A Begin Pretre
Nicolas Grégoire was first married to Thérèse Decoste and following her death he married Geneviève Patenaude 12 Jan 1807 (already transcribed). The parents of Nicolas Grégoire were thus identified as Nicolas Grégoire and Marie Catherine Guerin who were themselves married 20 Jul 1772 at La prairie (Montréal).
Transcription of this marriage the next research day.
M de nicolas Grégoire et de Thérèse de coste
le vingt d'aout mil sept cent quatre v
ingt dix huit par nous pretre soussigné curé
de St Constant, après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite au prone de nos messes parois
siales par trois dimanches consecutifs entre
nicolas grégoire laboureur fils majeur de feu nicolas grégoire
et de catherine guerin ses pere et mere de la
paroisse de chateaugai d'une part et thérèse
de coste dit lafleur fille majeure de feu jean b[aptis]te decoste
et de thérèse pouliot ses pere et mere de cette
paroisse d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert
aucun empechement ni issue de probition
au dit mariage connu il apert part certificat
de monsieur bryer curé de chateaugai avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement du cons
entement des parents et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptialle selon la forme
proscripte par votre mere la sainte eglise
paroisse et usage du diocese en présence
de jean guerin oncle de l'époux et qui lui a le ___
de pere d'amable guerin oncle de l'époux,
de michel lefebvre oncle de l'époux de françois
fosset beau pere de l'époux et de plusieurs autres
parents et amis de l'époux et de l'épouse qui ont
déclare ne savoir signer après lecture faite
qui vaut ______
A Begin Pretre
Nicolas Grégoire was first married to Thérèse Decoste and following her death he married Geneviève Patenaude 12 Jan 1807 (already transcribed). The parents of Nicolas Grégoire were thus identified as Nicolas Grégoire and Marie Catherine Guerin who were themselves married 20 Jul 1772 at La prairie (Montréal).
Transcription of this marriage the next research day.
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
Grégoire and Séguin dit Ladéroute families
Antoine Grégoire married Rosa de Lima Ségin dit Ladéroute 30 Aug 1869 at the Basilica de Notre Dame in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. I wish it had been that simple to discover the full name of the bride as Rosa was listed as Rosa de Lima Séguin. Parents of Antoine were Nicholas Joseph Grégoire and Marie Potvin and for Rosa her parents were Antoine Séguin and Marie Groux. The witnesses at this marriage were Nicholas Grégoire and Toussaint Groux. Trying to find the parents of this couple proved to be a formidable task which I related earlier in my blog. My reason for coming back to these two family lines is organization and tidying up details and to ensure that indeed I did find the correct line.
Working on the Grégoire family proved to be an interesting tour through early New France families and eventually failing to connect to them discovering the answer to my search lay in the census and reading the early records of a particular village. Although the Grégoire family were not 1600s arrivals they were indeed here before the 1750s but, as I was to discover, at Montréal. Their son Homère would marry Rosalie Tremblay 6 Apr 1902 at Embrun and it was this relationship that helped me in the long run. The Tremblay family being so thoroughly researched I was able to locate the marriage of Homère and Rosalie and from there the parents full names which then assisted me greatly with the Séguin family. French Canadian genealogy is marvelous and fits together so neatly that as soon as you go astray you will often get warning signs that something is wrong because it just doesn't match the available files. It usually happens quite quickly which is excellent.
What I was trying to find was the location of the Grégoire family before they moved to Russell Twp in Ontario. The usual route was often up from Montréal via the south shore, across the St Lawrence and into the Québec townships which ran along with the Ontario townships in Eastern Ontario but on the west side of the Ottawa River. I had found Nicholas Grégoire on the 1852 census quite early on but the name of the wife was Marguerite Emare. Antoine was there, right age and fitted perfectly. Nicholas was born at Chateauguay and Antoine at Ste-Martine (Marguerite was born at [St] Constant.) I was looking for Marie Potvin however as the wife of Nicholas. I then trekked through the Grégoire records but discovered that they just didn't fit this family. Returning to the census I decided to look at the parish registers for the baptism of Antoine (I was working primarily with marriages as I was trying to quickly prepare a chart for the wedding - since I couldn't really prove the Grégoire line it basically ended at Nicholas at the time). However, looking at the baptisms I discovered that Antoine was baptized at Ste Martine and his parents were listed as Nicholas Grégoire and Marguerite Emard. The census had been perfectly accurate. I was still new to searching at the time and dit names were still a mystery to me. I moved now to find the marriage of Nicholas and Marguerite and it was at St Constant 6 Feb 1837.
Le six Fevrier, mil huit cent
trente sept après la publication des
trois bans de mariage faité ici et a Saint
Remi, entre Nicolas Grégoire Jour
nalier fils majeur de feu Nicolas
Grégoire et de Geneviève Patenaude,
de Saint Remi, d'une parte et Margue
rite Hémar, fille majeure de feu Pierre
Hémar et de Catherine Payant de cette
paroisse, d'autre part; Nous sousigné
avec l'agréement de leurs parents; avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement de mar
iage et leur avons donné le bénédiction nup
tiale au présence de Bédard Payant; de Jean
Baptiste Beaudin, d'Amable Doulean, de Luc
Hamar, d'Antoine Hémar et d'Augustin
Lamoreux, qui ont avec les époux déclaré ne
savoir signer.
La Marth Mieu P[re]tre
I shall work on the transcription but amazingly I had discovered that I did have the correct census for Antoine and back to his parents Nicholas Grégoire and Marguerite Emard. I now had several spelling of Marguerite's surnames which I will discuss later.
Continuing looking at the Grégoire family I now needed the marriage of Nicolas Grégoire and Geneviève Patenaude and they had married at St Constant 12 Jan 1807. The priest recorded in the register
Le deux janvier mil huit cent sept nous pretre soussigné aprés
la publication de trois Bans de mariage a nos messes
paroissialles suivant l'usage, entre nicolas grégoire
majeur laboureur veuf de Thèrèse decoste, de la paroisse
de Cateauguay d'une part; et geneviève patenaude mineure
fille de michel patenaude laboureur et de defunte
charlotte gervais ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre
part sans quel se soit trouvé aucun empechement
au dit mariage leur avons donné la Bénédiction
nuptialle avec les cérémonies presentes après avoir
reçu leur mutuel consentement au mariage ____
que lelui de leurs parents A le en présente de laurent
denise beaupere de l'epoux, de nicholas moyer oncle
maternel de pierre saint pierre aussi oncle maternel de l'epoux
de michel patenaude pere de l'epouse, de joseph patenaude frere
de l'epouse, et de plusieurs autres parents s'amis , qui n'ont
su signer de meme que les epoux
___ Consigney P[re]tre
I was then able to locate the marriage of Nicolas Grégoire and Thérèse Decoste at St Constant 20 Aug 1796. The parents of Nicolas Grégoire were listed as Nicolas Grégoire and Catherine Guerin. Locating their marriage readily at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine and they were married 20 Jul 1772. Finding this marriage then showed me that Nicolas was the emigrant as his parents were still living in France. His parents were Nicolas Grégoire and Marie-Anne Martin. The register lists him as a resident of the parish. This family is not listed in Tanguay.
When I was researching this family earlier I had tried to discover if Nicolas was a soldier coming out from France before 1759 but was unable to ascertain that. I had discovered a new set of webpages which lists 214 articles from "Le journal citoyen du Québec pour la francophonie. " Nicolas (his son) was part of a group of voyageurs who traveled down the Mississippi in pursuit of trading opportunities. He is only mentioned the one time in the story so any further part by him is unknown. But what of Nicolas, the father, why is he listed just as a resident? Was he an ex-soldier? He would have been older when he married if he had been a soldier in the 1750s. He died in 1789 at Chateauguay (17 years of marriage). The burial lines state his age as 50 years giving him a possible date of birth in 1739 so that he would have been old enough to have served as a soldier. Perhaps the answer lies in looking at Emigration which I have not yet done. That will be one of my projects for the next time that I look at the Grégoire family
The Séguin family will also have to wait until the next time as I have managed to use up all my allotted time today for these families.
Separating the file for the Grégoire family then Nicolas (b c 1739) is Generation 1, Nicolas (b 1773) is Generation 2, Nicolas Joseph (b 1809) is Generation 3, Antoine is Generation 4 and Homère is Generation 5 and two more generations completes this line to the present. Folders created and images sorted.
Working on the Grégoire family proved to be an interesting tour through early New France families and eventually failing to connect to them discovering the answer to my search lay in the census and reading the early records of a particular village. Although the Grégoire family were not 1600s arrivals they were indeed here before the 1750s but, as I was to discover, at Montréal. Their son Homère would marry Rosalie Tremblay 6 Apr 1902 at Embrun and it was this relationship that helped me in the long run. The Tremblay family being so thoroughly researched I was able to locate the marriage of Homère and Rosalie and from there the parents full names which then assisted me greatly with the Séguin family. French Canadian genealogy is marvelous and fits together so neatly that as soon as you go astray you will often get warning signs that something is wrong because it just doesn't match the available files. It usually happens quite quickly which is excellent.
What I was trying to find was the location of the Grégoire family before they moved to Russell Twp in Ontario. The usual route was often up from Montréal via the south shore, across the St Lawrence and into the Québec townships which ran along with the Ontario townships in Eastern Ontario but on the west side of the Ottawa River. I had found Nicholas Grégoire on the 1852 census quite early on but the name of the wife was Marguerite Emare. Antoine was there, right age and fitted perfectly. Nicholas was born at Chateauguay and Antoine at Ste-Martine (Marguerite was born at [St] Constant.) I was looking for Marie Potvin however as the wife of Nicholas. I then trekked through the Grégoire records but discovered that they just didn't fit this family. Returning to the census I decided to look at the parish registers for the baptism of Antoine (I was working primarily with marriages as I was trying to quickly prepare a chart for the wedding - since I couldn't really prove the Grégoire line it basically ended at Nicholas at the time). However, looking at the baptisms I discovered that Antoine was baptized at Ste Martine and his parents were listed as Nicholas Grégoire and Marguerite Emard. The census had been perfectly accurate. I was still new to searching at the time and dit names were still a mystery to me. I moved now to find the marriage of Nicholas and Marguerite and it was at St Constant 6 Feb 1837.
Le six Fevrier, mil huit cent
trente sept après la publication des
trois bans de mariage faité ici et a Saint
Remi, entre Nicolas Grégoire Jour
nalier fils majeur de feu Nicolas
Grégoire et de Geneviève Patenaude,
de Saint Remi, d'une parte et Margue
rite Hémar, fille majeure de feu Pierre
Hémar et de Catherine Payant de cette
paroisse, d'autre part; Nous sousigné
avec l'agréement de leurs parents; avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement de mar
iage et leur avons donné le bénédiction nup
tiale au présence de Bédard Payant; de Jean
Baptiste Beaudin, d'Amable Doulean, de Luc
Hamar, d'Antoine Hémar et d'Augustin
Lamoreux, qui ont avec les époux déclaré ne
savoir signer.
La Marth Mieu P[re]tre
I shall work on the transcription but amazingly I had discovered that I did have the correct census for Antoine and back to his parents Nicholas Grégoire and Marguerite Emard. I now had several spelling of Marguerite's surnames which I will discuss later.
Continuing looking at the Grégoire family I now needed the marriage of Nicolas Grégoire and Geneviève Patenaude and they had married at St Constant 12 Jan 1807. The priest recorded in the register
Le deux janvier mil huit cent sept nous pretre soussigné aprés
la publication de trois Bans de mariage a nos messes
paroissialles suivant l'usage, entre nicolas grégoire
majeur laboureur veuf de Thèrèse decoste, de la paroisse
de Cateauguay d'une part; et geneviève patenaude mineure
fille de michel patenaude laboureur et de defunte
charlotte gervais ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre
part sans quel se soit trouvé aucun empechement
au dit mariage leur avons donné la Bénédiction
nuptialle avec les cérémonies presentes après avoir
reçu leur mutuel consentement au mariage ____
que lelui de leurs parents A le en présente de laurent
denise beaupere de l'epoux, de nicholas moyer oncle
maternel de pierre saint pierre aussi oncle maternel de l'epoux
de michel patenaude pere de l'epouse, de joseph patenaude frere
de l'epouse, et de plusieurs autres parents s'amis , qui n'ont
su signer de meme que les epoux
___ Consigney P[re]tre
I was then able to locate the marriage of Nicolas Grégoire and Thérèse Decoste at St Constant 20 Aug 1796. The parents of Nicolas Grégoire were listed as Nicolas Grégoire and Catherine Guerin. Locating their marriage readily at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine and they were married 20 Jul 1772. Finding this marriage then showed me that Nicolas was the emigrant as his parents were still living in France. His parents were Nicolas Grégoire and Marie-Anne Martin. The register lists him as a resident of the parish. This family is not listed in Tanguay.
When I was researching this family earlier I had tried to discover if Nicolas was a soldier coming out from France before 1759 but was unable to ascertain that. I had discovered a new set of webpages which lists 214 articles from "Le journal citoyen du Québec pour la francophonie. " Nicolas (his son) was part of a group of voyageurs who traveled down the Mississippi in pursuit of trading opportunities. He is only mentioned the one time in the story so any further part by him is unknown. But what of Nicolas, the father, why is he listed just as a resident? Was he an ex-soldier? He would have been older when he married if he had been a soldier in the 1750s. He died in 1789 at Chateauguay (17 years of marriage). The burial lines state his age as 50 years giving him a possible date of birth in 1739 so that he would have been old enough to have served as a soldier. Perhaps the answer lies in looking at Emigration which I have not yet done. That will be one of my projects for the next time that I look at the Grégoire family
The Séguin family will also have to wait until the next time as I have managed to use up all my allotted time today for these families.
Separating the file for the Grégoire family then Nicolas (b c 1739) is Generation 1, Nicolas (b 1773) is Generation 2, Nicolas Joseph (b 1809) is Generation 3, Antoine is Generation 4 and Homère is Generation 5 and two more generations completes this line to the present. Folders created and images sorted.
Saturday, April 23, 2011
Blake Family One Name Study and Bédard
With my membership in the Guild of One Name Studies comes the perk of Marriage Challenges. These are very handy especially with the price of a marriage registration certificate being now nine pounds sterling. The marriages help to establish the family lines in the 1800s and are an absolute must in any family study. I am slowly working away on the 30,000 Blake marriages in England matching up couples where possible but individual marriage challenges do this for me automatically as the data is pulled from the original parish registers and civil registers. I searched out my marriages for two today and I had already prepared my excel file for both of them so it was an easy transfer. I hadn't matched up all the marriages using the census so I proceeded to do that and it is a lengthy task to do 35 marriages working through FreeBMD and the census.
I am also working on the The Blake Newsletter and it was written by Barrie Blake this time. I am just adding or revising a couple of items - we do each others and that works very well as it is really difficult to proofread your own work.
It is certainly nice to be settling back into regular research. I need to now plan my research time for the French Canadian lines of our son in law. I have allotted one hour per day (it can easily run to two hours because of the placement) to work on each of his 32 3x great grandparents. This may seem like a lot but indeed I could just as easily of gone back to the 6x great grandparents and worked on all of them as well. It is a consideration on my part as I have assigned 28 to their own individual day and then I have placed two on the weekends where it works otherwise I have three in one day on a weekday because the calendar doesn't have an exact number of days per month. My own lines I have rotating on an eight week basis - five to a week but I do not have nearly as many of my 4x great grandparents covered in my research!
I will be working on Bédard, Whélan, Matte, Gagnon, Mourier, Bertrand, Nepveu, Audet dit Lapointe, Grégoire, Séguin dit Ladéroute, Tremblay, Labelle, Lauzon, Brunet, Lanoie, Rhéaume, Dumoulin, Renaud, Larente dit Vinet, Cadieux, Clément, Charlebois, Pomainville, Pilon, Prévost, Desjardins, Deschatelets, Quesnel, St-Jean, Lavigne, Chénier and Racine. I am considering doing a second month which would include Patry, Fournier dit Larose, Bénoit dit Vaillacourt, Doutre, Monestier, Piché, Richer, Hémard dit Poitvin, Groux, Bernard dit Blondin, Lacroix, Thibaut, Constantineau, Boileau, Payette dit St-Amour, Sarrazin, Demers, Blais, Racicot, Lamarque dit Matthieu, Chantal, Desloges dit Poirier, Monette dit Boiseux, Creujeur (Kruger), St-Denis, Legault, D'Amour, Campeau, and Douras (Douvas). This would then take me back to the 4x great grandparents and mostly in the early 1800s/late 1700s. I have already taken his lines back to early New France and to the parents in France but I have not yet collected all the registrations. I would also like to now seek out the notary records and other records that might be at Library and Archives Canada which would give a fuller picture of these families.
I shall follow approximately the same process each day. First I will check to make sure I have all the registrations from Ancestry or the LDS website as an image in the family folder. Then within each folder I shall arrange them by generation from the emigrant. If I eventually find the registrations for these families in France then I shall simply alter the arabic to a roman numeral with the roman numerals marking the generations back from the emigrant and the parents being the I generation. I shall then check Tanguay to see if what I have also blends in with what he has (I started to use Tanguay about a year after I started). In the cases where I am still in the late 1700s, Tanguay is great to help you look at the lines going back to the emigrant. I shall also have a look at Ancestry family trees and World Connect. I will also search the Library and Archives Canada website to note items that I wish to check on my next visit.
Process:
I am also working on the The Blake Newsletter and it was written by Barrie Blake this time. I am just adding or revising a couple of items - we do each others and that works very well as it is really difficult to proofread your own work.
It is certainly nice to be settling back into regular research. I need to now plan my research time for the French Canadian lines of our son in law. I have allotted one hour per day (it can easily run to two hours because of the placement) to work on each of his 32 3x great grandparents. This may seem like a lot but indeed I could just as easily of gone back to the 6x great grandparents and worked on all of them as well. It is a consideration on my part as I have assigned 28 to their own individual day and then I have placed two on the weekends where it works otherwise I have three in one day on a weekday because the calendar doesn't have an exact number of days per month. My own lines I have rotating on an eight week basis - five to a week but I do not have nearly as many of my 4x great grandparents covered in my research!
I will be working on Bédard, Whélan, Matte, Gagnon, Mourier, Bertrand, Nepveu, Audet dit Lapointe, Grégoire, Séguin dit Ladéroute, Tremblay, Labelle, Lauzon, Brunet, Lanoie, Rhéaume, Dumoulin, Renaud, Larente dit Vinet, Cadieux, Clément, Charlebois, Pomainville, Pilon, Prévost, Desjardins, Deschatelets, Quesnel, St-Jean, Lavigne, Chénier and Racine. I am considering doing a second month which would include Patry, Fournier dit Larose, Bénoit dit Vaillacourt, Doutre, Monestier, Piché, Richer, Hémard dit Poitvin, Groux, Bernard dit Blondin, Lacroix, Thibaut, Constantineau, Boileau, Payette dit St-Amour, Sarrazin, Demers, Blais, Racicot, Lamarque dit Matthieu, Chantal, Desloges dit Poirier, Monette dit Boiseux, Creujeur (Kruger), St-Denis, Legault, D'Amour, Campeau, and Douras (Douvas). This would then take me back to the 4x great grandparents and mostly in the early 1800s/late 1700s. I have already taken his lines back to early New France and to the parents in France but I have not yet collected all the registrations. I would also like to now seek out the notary records and other records that might be at Library and Archives Canada which would give a fuller picture of these families.
I shall follow approximately the same process each day. First I will check to make sure I have all the registrations from Ancestry or the LDS website as an image in the family folder. Then within each folder I shall arrange them by generation from the emigrant. If I eventually find the registrations for these families in France then I shall simply alter the arabic to a roman numeral with the roman numerals marking the generations back from the emigrant and the parents being the I generation. I shall then check Tanguay to see if what I have also blends in with what he has (I started to use Tanguay about a year after I started). In the cases where I am still in the late 1700s, Tanguay is great to help you look at the lines going back to the emigrant. I shall also have a look at Ancestry family trees and World Connect. I will also search the Library and Archives Canada website to note items that I wish to check on my next visit.
Process:
- Label generations within the family folder
- Pull missing registrations from Ancestry and LDS website
- Check Tanguay
- Check Ancestry family trees
- Check World Connect family trees
- Search LAC for incidences of family name
Friday, February 26, 2010
Grégoire, Neveu and Audet dit Lapointe families
Working on the Neveu and Audet dit Lapointe families accidentally led me to the correct Grégoire family. I had been thinking that I should look at the DeBlois dit Grégoire families but I was incorrect. This Grégoire family traces back to Nicolas Grégoire who came to Canada prior to 20 Jul 1772 when he married Marie Catherine Guerin at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine, La Prairie. His parents are listed as being of the Paroisse de St-Laurent, Torel, Lorraine, France. Perhaps he arrived during the French and Indian Wars or earlier for the defense of New France. I think that I will need to consult records in Montreal to determine that if possible.
Marie Catherine Guerin was baptized at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine, La Prairie 19 Apr 1743 and she was the daughter of Jean Baptiste Guerin (born 16 Oct 1699 at La Prairie) and Catherine Boudreau (born 1 Dec 1703 at La Prairie). Although I have searched the registers at La Prairie the marriage of 29 Jan 1725 can not be found - there is a gap in the register it would appear. However, the marriage registration for their daughter Marie Catherine Guerin gives these names as the names of the parents of Marie Catherine. The proposed fathers of both of these parents have also come directly from France from the offered genealogy on World Connect and at nosorigines.qc.ca which is an extremely helpful site. I have now joined and will add information as I prove the lines with original parish register documents.
Nicolas Grégoire does not live a long life as he died 10 Oct 1784 at Chateauguay and is buried 11 Oct 1784 at St Joachim, Chateauguay. His son Nicolas was baptized 30 Jul 1773 at Notre Dame de la Prairie, La Prairie. Death date for him not yet found. Nicolas (b 1773) married Geneviève Patenaude 12 Jan 1807 at St Constant. The parents of Geneviève are listed on the marriage lines as Michel Patenaude and Charlotte Gervais. I will continue to search out the records for this couple but they married 23 Oct 1786 at Longueuil, Chambly.
Nicolas and Geneviève had a son Nicolas Joseph who was born and baptized 15 Jun 1809 at St Constant. He married Marie Marguerite Hémard 6 Feb 1837 at St Constant. Marguerite was baptized 2 May 1809 at St Constant and she was the daughter of Jean Pierre Hémard and Catherine Payant dite St Onge. I have been successful in tracing her families back in this area into the 1600s. I shall write them up at a later time.
I hadn't looked closely enough at the Census for the Grégoire family at Embrun. When I did do so I realized that Joseph Grégoire's wife Marguerite Emard was actually a clue for me that I had missed. She was born at St Constant (he was born at Chateauguay) according to the census but the marriage of their son Antoine had stated that his parents were Nicolas Joseph Grégoire and Marie Potvin. When I finally decided to check the marriage of Joseph Grégoire and Marguerite Emard (as they are listed on the census) I discovered that their marriage lines revealed the answer to my quandry. The lines read "Nicolas Grégoire, journalier, files majeur de feu Nicolas Grégoire, et de Geneviève Patenaude, de Saint Remi d'une part et Marguerite Hémas, fille majeure de feu Pierre Hémas et de Catherine Payant de cette paroisse (St Constant) d'autre part." Then pulling up the marriage of Pierre Hémas and Catherine Payant (14 Oct 1782 at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine, La Prairie) revealed further that "Pierre Hémard fils d'Antoine Hémard et de Marie Bourget. Ses pere et mere de cette Paroisse (St Constant) d'une part, et Catherine St Onge fille de Jean Baptiste Payant dit St Onge et de Catherine Lérigée. Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part." I then found the marriages of these sets of parents.
The marriage of Antoine Hémard and Marie Bourget stated "Antoine Hémard fils de Pierre Hémard et de Marguerite Blois ..... d'une part et Marie Bourget fille de feu Deny Bourget et de Marie Lebeau ....d'autre part." Still I hadn't found my answer to the Potvin name that appeared on the marriage lines that listed Marie Potvin and not Marguerite Emard which was the name on the census. I continued working my way back on the Hémard line.
I then found the marriage of Pierre Hémard and Margueriet Belois as it was listed in the register for Longueuil, Chambly on 6 Feb 1702. The register reads " Pierre Aymard agé de trente quatre au environs fils de deffunts Pierre Aymar et de Marie Bido ..... d'une part et Jeanne Marguerite Belois veuve de deffunt André St Aubin agé de trente trois ans ... d'autre part. Still no answer to the Potvin mystery.
I decided to find siblings for Marguerite. Then I noted a Pierre Hémard married to Marguerite Denaut 11 Aug 1806 (this Marguerite was a godmother to Marguerite Hémard). This Pierre was baptized 29 Sep 1784 and the son of Pierre Hémard and Catherine Payant dite St Onge. His marriage lines of 11 Aug 1806 solved the mystery and the need to remember to look at siblings if the trail goes cold. His marriage lines read: Pierre Hémard dit Potvin majeur labourer fils de Pierre Hémard dit Potvin et de Catherine Payant ....."
Solution to the parents of Antoine Grégoire and why on his marriage lines in 1869 at Ottawa he listed his parents as Nicolas Joseph Grégoire and Marie Potvin. Solving this mystery led back to the correct Grégoire line and the realization that this was not the Deblois dit Grégoire line found much earlier in New France but rather a later arrival in the 1750s period of the history of New France.
I shall return now to proving the 3x great grandparents after this diversion. Each diversion leads me down more paths solving this family tree. It is a work in progress though as I have now accumulated 117 separate surname files of images. I decided to publish the tree to an *.pdf file and was quite amazed to discover that I had a 407 page file. My own file on which I have been working for seven years now (hard to believe!) runs around 325 pages!. My husband's file though for his families runs much higher. I must ask him the current size. He publishes it as his mother's and his father's lines independently. Mine is still small enough that I can continue for quite a while I suspect to publish it as one file. I am slowly separating out the lines on which I am collecting extra family data so my file may never get to be that large. I haven't actually worked on it for a while. I have been busy with this French Canadian research. The priests of the Church have done a marvelous job of recording the genealogical history of the Quebec families in their registers.
Marie Catherine Guerin was baptized at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine, La Prairie 19 Apr 1743 and she was the daughter of Jean Baptiste Guerin (born 16 Oct 1699 at La Prairie) and Catherine Boudreau (born 1 Dec 1703 at La Prairie). Although I have searched the registers at La Prairie the marriage of 29 Jan 1725 can not be found - there is a gap in the register it would appear. However, the marriage registration for their daughter Marie Catherine Guerin gives these names as the names of the parents of Marie Catherine. The proposed fathers of both of these parents have also come directly from France from the offered genealogy on World Connect and at nosorigines.qc.ca which is an extremely helpful site. I have now joined and will add information as I prove the lines with original parish register documents.
Nicolas Grégoire does not live a long life as he died 10 Oct 1784 at Chateauguay and is buried 11 Oct 1784 at St Joachim, Chateauguay. His son Nicolas was baptized 30 Jul 1773 at Notre Dame de la Prairie, La Prairie. Death date for him not yet found. Nicolas (b 1773) married Geneviève Patenaude 12 Jan 1807 at St Constant. The parents of Geneviève are listed on the marriage lines as Michel Patenaude and Charlotte Gervais. I will continue to search out the records for this couple but they married 23 Oct 1786 at Longueuil, Chambly.
Nicolas and Geneviève had a son Nicolas Joseph who was born and baptized 15 Jun 1809 at St Constant. He married Marie Marguerite Hémard 6 Feb 1837 at St Constant. Marguerite was baptized 2 May 1809 at St Constant and she was the daughter of Jean Pierre Hémard and Catherine Payant dite St Onge. I have been successful in tracing her families back in this area into the 1600s. I shall write them up at a later time.
I hadn't looked closely enough at the Census for the Grégoire family at Embrun. When I did do so I realized that Joseph Grégoire's wife Marguerite Emard was actually a clue for me that I had missed. She was born at St Constant (he was born at Chateauguay) according to the census but the marriage of their son Antoine had stated that his parents were Nicolas Joseph Grégoire and Marie Potvin. When I finally decided to check the marriage of Joseph Grégoire and Marguerite Emard (as they are listed on the census) I discovered that their marriage lines revealed the answer to my quandry. The lines read "Nicolas Grégoire, journalier, files majeur de feu Nicolas Grégoire, et de Geneviève Patenaude, de Saint Remi d'une part et Marguerite Hémas, fille majeure de feu Pierre Hémas et de Catherine Payant de cette paroisse (St Constant) d'autre part." Then pulling up the marriage of Pierre Hémas and Catherine Payant (14 Oct 1782 at Notre Dame de la Prairie de la Madeleine, La Prairie) revealed further that "Pierre Hémard fils d'Antoine Hémard et de Marie Bourget. Ses pere et mere de cette Paroisse (St Constant) d'une part, et Catherine St Onge fille de Jean Baptiste Payant dit St Onge et de Catherine Lérigée. Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part." I then found the marriages of these sets of parents.
The marriage of Antoine Hémard and Marie Bourget stated "Antoine Hémard fils de Pierre Hémard et de Marguerite Blois ..... d'une part et Marie Bourget fille de feu Deny Bourget et de Marie Lebeau ....d'autre part." Still I hadn't found my answer to the Potvin name that appeared on the marriage lines that listed Marie Potvin and not Marguerite Emard which was the name on the census. I continued working my way back on the Hémard line.
I then found the marriage of Pierre Hémard and Margueriet Belois as it was listed in the register for Longueuil, Chambly on 6 Feb 1702. The register reads " Pierre Aymard agé de trente quatre au environs fils de deffunts Pierre Aymar et de Marie Bido ..... d'une part et Jeanne Marguerite Belois veuve de deffunt André St Aubin agé de trente trois ans ... d'autre part. Still no answer to the Potvin mystery.
I decided to find siblings for Marguerite. Then I noted a Pierre Hémard married to Marguerite Denaut 11 Aug 1806 (this Marguerite was a godmother to Marguerite Hémard). This Pierre was baptized 29 Sep 1784 and the son of Pierre Hémard and Catherine Payant dite St Onge. His marriage lines of 11 Aug 1806 solved the mystery and the need to remember to look at siblings if the trail goes cold. His marriage lines read: Pierre Hémard dit Potvin majeur labourer fils de Pierre Hémard dit Potvin et de Catherine Payant ....."
Solution to the parents of Antoine Grégoire and why on his marriage lines in 1869 at Ottawa he listed his parents as Nicolas Joseph Grégoire and Marie Potvin. Solving this mystery led back to the correct Grégoire line and the realization that this was not the Deblois dit Grégoire line found much earlier in New France but rather a later arrival in the 1750s period of the history of New France.
I shall return now to proving the 3x great grandparents after this diversion. Each diversion leads me down more paths solving this family tree. It is a work in progress though as I have now accumulated 117 separate surname files of images. I decided to publish the tree to an *.pdf file and was quite amazed to discover that I had a 407 page file. My own file on which I have been working for seven years now (hard to believe!) runs around 325 pages!. My husband's file though for his families runs much higher. I must ask him the current size. He publishes it as his mother's and his father's lines independently. Mine is still small enough that I can continue for quite a while I suspect to publish it as one file. I am slowly separating out the lines on which I am collecting extra family data so my file may never get to be that large. I haven't actually worked on it for a while. I have been busy with this French Canadian research. The priests of the Church have done a marvelous job of recording the genealogical history of the Quebec families in their registers.
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
French Canadian ancestry - Lauzon
I had a very successful day looking at the Lauzon family and discovered a tree online which I shall pursue with the actual records. I tend to do genealogy from the respect of what others have done before me. The Lauzon family has been quite researched I have discovered with at least five distinct trees online tracing back to the founding couple Pierre Lauzon and Anne Boivin. The line I am looking at descends through their son Gilles and Marie Archambault, their son Gilles and Marie-Anne Grolx, their son Gilles and Marie Anne Viau dit Lesperance, their son Joseph and Marie Catherine Fontigney dite St Jean. This marriage I have found on Drouin and was the point that I was at in my research yesterday when I found the earlier information where I now need to locate the records. I have the marriage for Augustin (son of Joseph and Marie Catherine) who married Clemence Chaumont to their son Joseph married to Rosalie Thibaut. Their son Augustin married Hélèna Brunet at Notre Dame de la Salette, Papineau and their eldest son Joseph Telesphore Augustin Lauzon married Dora Lanoie at Sturgeon Falls in 1910. I wondered if this was correct but my good fortune yesterday was to find Augustin and Hélèna at Sturgeon Falls on the 1901 census so this marriage is now working for the tree.
I now have all the information for the tree for the Lauzon family back nine generations (chart is nine generations) once I find all the records before the marriage of Joseph Lauzon and Marie Catherine Fontigney dite St Jean. I would also like to find all the baptisms and burials before I actually give the chart away. I am still lacking information on some of the feeder lines into this family Brunet, Constantineau, Deguire dit LaRose, Brunet dit Lalang, Lanoie, Boileau, Rhéaume, and St Armour. For the first four I need two generations and for the next four I need three generations. So still quite a bit of work.
That still leaves me with three other main lines (Grégoire, Bédard and Mourier). I already know the Mourier line will be more difficult because the furtherest back member that I have traced thus far was born in France in 1845 (although still four generations have been born in Canada!). Amazingly in this entire family that I have researched thus far this is the only individual not born in Canada until we get back into the 1600s (earliest baptism thus far is 1639). An amazing number of French Canadian families (no duplicates thus far) is part of this entire tree. I am putting the emphasis on this research now because of the new baby coming in the spring (our daughter's first niece or nephew, her husband's brother's child). It would be so nice to have a chart all ready for the baby.
Today I shall find the proofs for the Lauzon family and then continue working on the other feeder families for this particular main line.
I now have all the information for the tree for the Lauzon family back nine generations (chart is nine generations) once I find all the records before the marriage of Joseph Lauzon and Marie Catherine Fontigney dite St Jean. I would also like to find all the baptisms and burials before I actually give the chart away. I am still lacking information on some of the feeder lines into this family Brunet, Constantineau, Deguire dit LaRose, Brunet dit Lalang, Lanoie, Boileau, Rhéaume, and St Armour. For the first four I need two generations and for the next four I need three generations. So still quite a bit of work.
That still leaves me with three other main lines (Grégoire, Bédard and Mourier). I already know the Mourier line will be more difficult because the furtherest back member that I have traced thus far was born in France in 1845 (although still four generations have been born in Canada!). Amazingly in this entire family that I have researched thus far this is the only individual not born in Canada until we get back into the 1600s (earliest baptism thus far is 1639). An amazing number of French Canadian families (no duplicates thus far) is part of this entire tree. I am putting the emphasis on this research now because of the new baby coming in the spring (our daughter's first niece or nephew, her husband's brother's child). It would be so nice to have a chart all ready for the baby.
Today I shall find the proofs for the Lauzon family and then continue working on the other feeder families for this particular main line.
Tuesday, January 5, 2010
Back to Genealogy
Today I want to work on the French Canadian ancestry of our son-in-law. I have already been working on the parents of his paternal grandmother seeking out their baptisms and I have been successful. I am hoping that if there is an error she will spot it as she looks over any papers she might have for her family. I want to complete as much of the chart as possible and at the moment I only go back to her 2x great grandparents and the chart has room back to her 5x great grandparents. But I shall work back by generation collecting baptism/birth, marriage and burial/death records from Drouin on Ancestry. I also want to go to Library and Archives Canada to check out the directories for the families (and any other information that might be helpful). I will look at all the published histories for any of these families. So far I am looking at Grégoire, Lauzon, Tremblay, Lanoie, Rheaume, Brunet, Labelle, Séguin, Potvin, Giroux, Blondin, Lacroix, Thibaut, Constantineau, Boileau, St Amour and that is just back to the 2x great grandparents.
A mystery for me is their path and it lead to questions in my mind. The families are in the western area of Québec opposite Ottawa ON and then a movement up to Sturgeon Falls and then back again to Ottawa for one line and the other line comes immediately to the Embrun area. Am I right with the Sturgeon Falls families? I continue to look for proof but it is not impossible for one young man to travel from Papineauville to Sturgeon Falls I do not think but I would like more proof than just the baptisms and marriages. The burials are past the date of record in Ancestry so I will need to try and find that information another way.
Today I shall move back another generation looking for information that I didn't find earlier. As I move back though I have already found baptisms/marriages and burials for a number of the ancestors. It will be a little quicker and then I can start working on the 3x, 4x and 5x great grandparents and see how much information I can find. Unfortunately a lot of these families have not been researched which makes it even more important to try and find information and especially pictures if they are obtainable.
I will also spend a little more time on my Siderfin family today and continue to send information to my new correspondent.
A mystery for me is their path and it lead to questions in my mind. The families are in the western area of Québec opposite Ottawa ON and then a movement up to Sturgeon Falls and then back again to Ottawa for one line and the other line comes immediately to the Embrun area. Am I right with the Sturgeon Falls families? I continue to look for proof but it is not impossible for one young man to travel from Papineauville to Sturgeon Falls I do not think but I would like more proof than just the baptisms and marriages. The burials are past the date of record in Ancestry so I will need to try and find that information another way.
Today I shall move back another generation looking for information that I didn't find earlier. As I move back though I have already found baptisms/marriages and burials for a number of the ancestors. It will be a little quicker and then I can start working on the 3x, 4x and 5x great grandparents and see how much information I can find. Unfortunately a lot of these families have not been researched which makes it even more important to try and find information and especially pictures if they are obtainable.
I will also spend a little more time on my Siderfin family today and continue to send information to my new correspondent.
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