Emelie Piché married Antoine Renaud 5 May 1862 at Grenville and her parents were identified as Louis Piché and Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt in the Renaud Family post. Louis Piché and Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt's marriage of 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique.
M 23 Louis Piché et Josette Benoit
Le trois sept le mil juit cent trente
neur après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite sans opposition aux
prones des deux paroissiales entre Louis
Piché journalier domicilié au cette paroisse
fils majeur de Louis Piché et de
Louise Perrault d'une part et Jo
sette Benoit fille mineure de Alexis Be
noit journalier et de défunte Charlotte
Beauchamp de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empeche
ment au dit mariage et la père de l'
____ y ai___ je pretre curé
soussigné ai reçu le mutuel consente
ment par paroles present et leur ai
donné la bénédiction nuptiale en pré
sence de Louis Piché père de l'époux de
____ _____ de Charles Piché
________ de
_____ Benoit ______
Lecture faite
F _orin Pretre
The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Louis Piché and Louise Perrault who were themselves married 6 Nov 1809 at St Benoit.
Le six novembre mil huit cent neuf après la publication de trois
bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes paroissiales par
trois dimanches consecutifs entre Louis Piché résident en cette
paroisse fils majeur de Pierre Piché et de marianne la
france ses père et mère de la paroisse de Ste Thérèse d'une
part et marie louise perrault fille mineure de Charles per
rault la be____ et de marie louise Normand ses père et mère
de cette paroisse d'autre part, sans découvir aucun empeche
ment ni opposition quelconque a leur futur mariage
nous soussigné pretre curé de cette paroisse vu le consentement
des parens a la _____ avoir reçu celui des parties contractantes
leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de
pierre piché père de l'époux, Basile Piché son frère
pierre payet, Charles perrault père de l'épouse, joseph
Norman ____ l'épouse, Charles normand son oncle
Jean Baptiste Normand son cousin et autres qui ont dé
clare ne savoir signer.
H Te__lix Pretre
The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Pierre Piché and Marianne LaFrance who were themselves married 2 Feb 1778 at Neuville (Portneuf).
Mariage p pichet et m anna lafrance
Le deux du mois de fevrier de l'année mil sept cent soixante et dix huit après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au prine des messes paroissiales
trois dimanches consecutifs entre pierre pichet fils de pierre pichet
et de marie Angelique Gignac ses pere et mere de la paroisse de la paroisse
de la sainte famille du cap Santé d'autre part et marie anna la France
fille de defunt francois lafrance et de defunte marie anna Bordeleau
ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part après avoir vu la certificat de monsieur
fillion curé du Cap Santé de la publication des trois bans de mariage en la
paroisse a trois dimanches consecutifs dispensé obtenu de Monseigneur
Levesque de Quebec du trois au quatorieme _____ de parents qui
le trouve entre les dits contractants ____ qu'il apparait par l'acte ___
n'aiant decouvert aucun autre empechement canonique n'y d'une
part n'y de l'autre nous avons reçus leur mutuel consentement
de mariage et leurs avons donnés la bénédiction nuptiale
selon l'usage prescrit par notre mère la Sainte Eglise Romaine
avec en presence de pierre pichet père de l'époux et d'adrien pichet
oncle de l'époux de louis gingras oncle de l'épouse
de plusieurs autres parents et amis les ____ ont signes les autres
ont declaré ne savoir signer de _____
marie lafrance [signed]
marie anna lafrance [signed]
jean gingras [signed]
louis gingras [signed]
fran_____
Charles T Bailly Pretre
The parents of Pierre Piché being thus identified as Pierre Pichet and Marie Angélique Gignac who were themselves married 10 Jan 1752 at Cap Santé. This marriage is in Tanguay as Pierre Pichet married to Marie-Angélique Jugnac. The parents of Pierre Pichet are named as Pierre Pichet and Scholastique Lesage who were married 24 Jul 1724 at Cap Santé (although Tanguay has only 1724 I did find their marriage lines). The parents of this Pierre are named as Adrien Pichet and Elisabeth Léveillé who were themselves married 22 Nov 1694 at Pointe aux Trembles. The parents of Adrien were identified as Pierre Pichet and Catherine Durand and they were married 25 Nov 1665 at Québec. Pierre's parents were married in France and he was born in France so he is the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.
Adrien Piché married to Elisabeth Léveillé is Generation 2. The present generation is also descended from a sister of Adrien named Marie Catherine Piché and she married Antoine Bordeleau 5 Mar 1696 at Neuville (Porneuf) and will also be in Generation 2.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Scholastique Lesage is Generation 3.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Angélique Gignac is Generation 4.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Anne Lafrance is Generation 5.
Louis Piche married to Marie Louise Perreault is Generation 6.
Louis Piché married to Josette Bénoit dit Vaillancourt is Generation 7. The present generation may also be descended from Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau 27 Nov 1837 at Ste Scholastique as their daughter Adélaide Piché married Jean Baptiste Nepveu 7 May 1860 at Grenville. I am still finding links between Jean Baptiste Nepveu married to Léa Audet dite Lapointe and the above couple Jean Baptiste Nepveu and Adélaide Piché and Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau is Generation 7.
Emelie Piché married to Antoine Renaud is Generation 8.
The next research day for the Piché family will continue to collect source documentation.
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Monday, June 6, 2011
Thursday, June 2, 2011
Bénoit dit Vaillancourt Family
Marie Josephte Bénoit dit Vaillancourt married Joseph Louis Matté 5 Feb 1839 at St Jérome and Marie Josephte's parents were identified as Joseph Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Josephte Charette who were themselves married 25 Nov 1811 at St Eustache (Deux Montagnes).
M Joseph Vaillancourt et Josephte Chauret
Le vingt cinq novembre mil huit cent onze aprèes la publication
de trois bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes savait ____
les trois __________dimanches consecutifs vingt unieme, la vingt
deux ____ et vingt trois ____ dimanches _____ entre joseph
vaillancour fils majeur de barthelemi vaillancourt et de marie
louise label ses pere et mere cultivateur en cette paroisse d'une part
et marie josephe chauret fille de charles chauret et de defunté
marguerite roi ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'
étant de ____ aucun empechemenmt au dit mariage, nous soussigné
curé de cette paroisse leurs avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale au la
[to be continued but somewhat difficult to read]
Finding this marriage clarifies the parents of Joseph Vaillancourt and that he is descended from the second marriage of Bartelemi Vaillancourt, the present family is also descended from the first marriage of Bartelemi. Both of these marriages are in Tanguay with Barthélemi Vaillancour marrying first Marie Madeleine Bouchard 27 Jan 1766 at Kamouraska and second he married Marie Louise Labelle 3 Jul 1781 at Terrebonne. The parents of Barthélemi Vaillancourt are Joseph Vaillancourt and Thérèse Martin who were themselves married 7 Jan 1733 at Islet. This Joseph was the son of Robert Vaillancour and his first wife Geneviève Destroismaisons and they were married 28 Sep 1704 at St Thomas. Robert was the son of Robert Vaillancour and Françoise Gobeil who were married in 1668 at Chateau Richer. Robert was the emigrant ancestor and so Generation 1.
Robert Vaillancour married to Geneviève Destroismaisons is Generation 2.
Joseph Vaillancour married to Thérèse Martin is Generation 3.
Barthélemy Vaillancourt married to first Marie Madeleine Bouchard and second to Marie Louise Labelle is Generation 4.
Alexis Vaillancour married to Agathe Langlois dite Traversis 14 Jan 1793 at St Eustache (son of Barthélemy and Marie Madeleine Bouchard) is Generation 5.
Joseph Vaillancourt (son of Barthélemy Vaillancour and Marie Louise Labelle) married to Josephte Chauret is Generation 5.
Marie Josephte Bénoit dit Vaillancourt (daughter of Joseph Vaillancourt and Marie Louise Labelle) married to
Joseph Louis Matté is Generation 6.
Alexis Benoit dit Vaillancourt (son of Alexis Vaillancour and Agathe Langlois dite Traversis) married to Charlotte Beauchamp is Generation 6.
Josette Benoit dit Vaillancourt married to Louis Piché 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique is Generation 7.
The next research day will be spent collecting records.
M Joseph Vaillancourt et Josephte Chauret
Le vingt cinq novembre mil huit cent onze aprèes la publication
de trois bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes savait ____
les trois __________dimanches consecutifs vingt unieme, la vingt
deux ____ et vingt trois ____ dimanches _____ entre joseph
vaillancour fils majeur de barthelemi vaillancourt et de marie
louise label ses pere et mere cultivateur en cette paroisse d'une part
et marie josephe chauret fille de charles chauret et de defunté
marguerite roi ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'
étant de ____ aucun empechemenmt au dit mariage, nous soussigné
curé de cette paroisse leurs avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale au la
[to be continued but somewhat difficult to read]
Finding this marriage clarifies the parents of Joseph Vaillancourt and that he is descended from the second marriage of Bartelemi Vaillancourt, the present family is also descended from the first marriage of Bartelemi. Both of these marriages are in Tanguay with Barthélemi Vaillancour marrying first Marie Madeleine Bouchard 27 Jan 1766 at Kamouraska and second he married Marie Louise Labelle 3 Jul 1781 at Terrebonne. The parents of Barthélemi Vaillancourt are Joseph Vaillancourt and Thérèse Martin who were themselves married 7 Jan 1733 at Islet. This Joseph was the son of Robert Vaillancour and his first wife Geneviève Destroismaisons and they were married 28 Sep 1704 at St Thomas. Robert was the son of Robert Vaillancour and Françoise Gobeil who were married in 1668 at Chateau Richer. Robert was the emigrant ancestor and so Generation 1.
Robert Vaillancour married to Geneviève Destroismaisons is Generation 2.
Joseph Vaillancour married to Thérèse Martin is Generation 3.
Barthélemy Vaillancourt married to first Marie Madeleine Bouchard and second to Marie Louise Labelle is Generation 4.
Alexis Vaillancour married to Agathe Langlois dite Traversis 14 Jan 1793 at St Eustache (son of Barthélemy and Marie Madeleine Bouchard) is Generation 5.
Joseph Vaillancourt (son of Barthélemy Vaillancour and Marie Louise Labelle) married to Josephte Chauret is Generation 5.
Marie Josephte Bénoit dit Vaillancourt (daughter of Joseph Vaillancourt and Marie Louise Labelle) married to
Joseph Louis Matté is Generation 6.
Alexis Benoit dit Vaillancourt (son of Alexis Vaillancour and Agathe Langlois dite Traversis) married to Charlotte Beauchamp is Generation 6.
Josette Benoit dit Vaillancourt married to Louis Piché 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique is Generation 7.
The next research day will be spent collecting records.
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
The Renaud family
Rosalie Renaud married Joseph Dumoulin 30 Jan 1882 at St Philippe d'Argenteuil. Rosalie by the census of 1911 was born 2 Jul 1864. In 1901 her father Antoine and mother Emelie were living on the Québec side of Ottawa township. I shall look for the 1871 and 1881 census to see if I can find Rosalie with her family since I have not yet found her baptism just to confirm although the marriage registration does give Antoine Renaud and Emélie Piché as her parents. No luck and I checked both Ancestry and the LDS website.
Continuing back the marriage of Antoine Renaud and Emélie Piché was celebrated 5 May 1862 at Grenville. This was a difficult one as the priest has written Antoine Arnaud et Emilie Piché.
Le cinq mai mil huit cent soixante deux aprè la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite au prone de nos _____ paroissiales
entre Antoine Arnaud de cette paroisse fils mineur de Joseph
Arnaud et de Elmire Chartrand de cette paroisse d'une part; et
Emilie Piché ausi de cette paroisse fille mineure du Louis Piché
et de Josette Benoit dite Vallancourt, de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous ______ du cette
paroisse du consentement du père et de la mère ________ Antoine Arnaud et
Emilie Piché avons reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et ____
____ donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis Piché
père de la mariée et Louis Tailer qui _____
ont declaré ni savoir peut signer.
T S Mancess, etc.
I do have Antoine on the census in Grenville with his parents Joseph and Elmire in 1861 and 1851 so feel satisfied that this is the correct marriage although the priest has written his name as Arnaud.
The marriage of Joseph Renaud and Elmire Chartrand was celebrated 11 Oct 1836 at Grenville.
Le onze octobre mil huit cent trente six après la publi
cation de trois bans de mariage faites aux prones
de la messe paroissiale de la Petite Nation pareille
publication ayant été faite en la paroisse de Ste
Anne des Plaines, comme il nous est apparu par
certificat de Messier Poirier curé du lieu entre
Joseph Renaud domicilié a Grenville fils mineur
de Louis Renaud et de Francoise Charbonneau
de la paroisse de Ste Anne des Plaines d'une part
et de Elmire Chartrand aussi domiciliées a Gren
ville, fille mineure de Joseph Chartrand et de
Marie Paquet de Grenville d'autre part n'ayant
découvert aucun empechement au dit mariage nous
curé soussigné de la Petit Nation avons reçu le
mutuel consentement des parties et leur avons don
né la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis
Renaud et Joseph Chartrand pères des époux
de Felix Charbonneau et Joseph Renaud parents
et amis des époux qui, tous ainsi que les époux
ont déclaré ne savoir signer.
Peh Brunet Ptre
Again the match going back fits with the census details and the parents of Joseph Renaud are Louis Renaud and Françoise Charbonneau. The marriage of Joseph and Françoise took place 13 Jul 1807 at Ste Anne des Plaines (the marriage lines of their son located this couple).
Le treize juillet mil huit cent sept après la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite _______ nos messes paroiss
ales le trois dernier dimances consecutif entre Louis
Renault fils majeur de Jean Baptiste Renault et de
défunc Marguerite Maillé ses père et mère cultivateur
en cette paroisse d'une part et Françoise Charboneau fille
mineure de Jerome Charbonneau et du défuncte Charlotte
Martel le père et mère cultivateur en cette paroisse d'autre
part, n s'étant découvert aucun empechement au dit
mariage, nous soussignécuré de cette paroisse avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale ___la ____
___
___ et en présence de
jean baptiste renault père, jean baptiste _____et
joseph renault ____ l'époux et de jerome charbonneau
père et joseph charbonneau frère de l'épouse ____
_____ ont déclaré ne savoir signer
______
____Ptre
Giving us the parents of Louis Renaud/Renault as Jean Baptiste Renault and Marguerite Maillé/Maillet who were themselves married 25 Aug 1768 at Rivière des Prairies. This marriage is not in the Renault family line on Tanguay but the scan of the marriage lines has been found. I will transcribe this one another day but Louis is the son of Joseph Renault and Catherine Beauchamp and their marriage was celebrated 2 Apr 1738 at Lachenaye. This marriage is in Tanguay with the father of Joseph being Michel Renault and his mother Marie Renée Réaume and their marriage was celebrated 25 Nov 1698 at Charlesbourg. Tanguay chooses one spelling and stays with that and in this case he chose to use Renaud.
Michel Renault's father is listed as Mathurin Renault and his mother as Marie Pelletier and they married 7 Oct 1669 at Québec.
Mathurin Renault was the emigrant ancestor having been born in France and he is Generation 1.
Michel Renault married to Marie Renée Réaume is Generation 2.
Joseph Renault married to Catherine Beauchamp is Generation 3.
Jean Baptiste Renault married to Marguerite Maillé is Generation 4.
Louis Renaud married to Françoise Charbonneau is Generation 5.
Joseph Renaud married to Elmire Chartrand is Generation 6.
Antoine Renaud married to Emélie Piché is Generation 7.
Rosalie Renaud married to Joseph Dumoulin is Generation 8.
My next research day I will work on more transcriptions of the CMBs, improving the present transcriptions and collecting more of the CMBs for this family line as well as the census and any other records.
Continuing back the marriage of Antoine Renaud and Emélie Piché was celebrated 5 May 1862 at Grenville. This was a difficult one as the priest has written Antoine Arnaud et Emilie Piché.
Le cinq mai mil huit cent soixante deux aprè la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite au prone de nos _____ paroissiales
entre Antoine Arnaud de cette paroisse fils mineur de Joseph
Arnaud et de Elmire Chartrand de cette paroisse d'une part; et
Emilie Piché ausi de cette paroisse fille mineure du Louis Piché
et de Josette Benoit dite Vallancourt, de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous ______ du cette
paroisse du consentement du père et de la mère ________ Antoine Arnaud et
Emilie Piché avons reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et ____
____ donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis Piché
père de la mariée et Louis Tailer qui _____
ont declaré ni savoir peut signer.
T S Mancess, etc.
I do have Antoine on the census in Grenville with his parents Joseph and Elmire in 1861 and 1851 so feel satisfied that this is the correct marriage although the priest has written his name as Arnaud.
The marriage of Joseph Renaud and Elmire Chartrand was celebrated 11 Oct 1836 at Grenville.
Le onze octobre mil huit cent trente six après la publi
cation de trois bans de mariage faites aux prones
de la messe paroissiale de la Petite Nation pareille
publication ayant été faite en la paroisse de Ste
Anne des Plaines, comme il nous est apparu par
certificat de Messier Poirier curé du lieu entre
Joseph Renaud domicilié a Grenville fils mineur
de Louis Renaud et de Francoise Charbonneau
de la paroisse de Ste Anne des Plaines d'une part
et de Elmire Chartrand aussi domiciliées a Gren
ville, fille mineure de Joseph Chartrand et de
Marie Paquet de Grenville d'autre part n'ayant
découvert aucun empechement au dit mariage nous
curé soussigné de la Petit Nation avons reçu le
mutuel consentement des parties et leur avons don
né la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis
Renaud et Joseph Chartrand pères des époux
de Felix Charbonneau et Joseph Renaud parents
et amis des époux qui, tous ainsi que les époux
ont déclaré ne savoir signer.
Peh Brunet Ptre
Again the match going back fits with the census details and the parents of Joseph Renaud are Louis Renaud and Françoise Charbonneau. The marriage of Joseph and Françoise took place 13 Jul 1807 at Ste Anne des Plaines (the marriage lines of their son located this couple).
Le treize juillet mil huit cent sept après la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite _______ nos messes paroiss
ales le trois dernier dimances consecutif entre Louis
Renault fils majeur de Jean Baptiste Renault et de
défunc Marguerite Maillé ses père et mère cultivateur
en cette paroisse d'une part et Françoise Charboneau fille
mineure de Jerome Charbonneau et du défuncte Charlotte
Martel le père et mère cultivateur en cette paroisse d'autre
part, n s'étant découvert aucun empechement au dit
mariage, nous soussignécuré de cette paroisse avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale ___la ____
___
___ et en présence de
jean baptiste renault père, jean baptiste _____et
joseph renault ____ l'époux et de jerome charbonneau
père et joseph charbonneau frère de l'épouse ____
_____ ont déclaré ne savoir signer
______
____Ptre
Giving us the parents of Louis Renaud/Renault as Jean Baptiste Renault and Marguerite Maillé/Maillet who were themselves married 25 Aug 1768 at Rivière des Prairies. This marriage is not in the Renault family line on Tanguay but the scan of the marriage lines has been found. I will transcribe this one another day but Louis is the son of Joseph Renault and Catherine Beauchamp and their marriage was celebrated 2 Apr 1738 at Lachenaye. This marriage is in Tanguay with the father of Joseph being Michel Renault and his mother Marie Renée Réaume and their marriage was celebrated 25 Nov 1698 at Charlesbourg. Tanguay chooses one spelling and stays with that and in this case he chose to use Renaud.
Michel Renault's father is listed as Mathurin Renault and his mother as Marie Pelletier and they married 7 Oct 1669 at Québec.
Mathurin Renault was the emigrant ancestor having been born in France and he is Generation 1.
Michel Renault married to Marie Renée Réaume is Generation 2.
Joseph Renault married to Catherine Beauchamp is Generation 3.
Jean Baptiste Renault married to Marguerite Maillé is Generation 4.
Louis Renaud married to Françoise Charbonneau is Generation 5.
Joseph Renaud married to Elmire Chartrand is Generation 6.
Antoine Renaud married to Emélie Piché is Generation 7.
Rosalie Renaud married to Joseph Dumoulin is Generation 8.
My next research day I will work on more transcriptions of the CMBs, improving the present transcriptions and collecting more of the CMBs for this family line as well as the census and any other records.
Sunday, May 1, 2011
Ne[p]veu family
Marie Louise Eugenie Neveu married Joseph Louis Gabriel Marius Mourier 10 May 1909 at Ste Anne in Ottawa. According to the marriage registration
Le dix mai mil neuf cent neuf ne la displace
de deux bans de mariage et la publication
d'un troisième ban faité au prone de cette
paroisse par le Rev. J. A. Myrand curie de cette
paroisse, au prone paroissial, entre Gabriel
Mourier domicilié dans la paroise Notre Dame
d'Ottawa, fils majeur de Marius Mourier et
d'Antoinette Bertrand d'une part et de Eugénie
Neveu, fille majeure de J. B. Neveu et de Léa
Lapointé de cette paroisse d'autre part ne
s'étant découvert aucun autre empechement de
mariage, nous pretre soussigné avons reçu
leur mutuel consentement de mariage
et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale
en présence de J B Neveu and de Marius
Mourier
M[a]d[am]e Eugenie Mourier
Monsieur Gabriel Mourier
JB Neveu
M. Mourier
Albert Neveu
H.A. Patrice
L. Mourier
Mad[am] L. Mourier
Marie Louise Mourier
A. Mourier
H. Patrice
A. __nville
T. J. LeBlanc
B. Rocque
V. Legeault
B. Desjardins
L. Neveu
A.E. Richard Pr[et]é
I found all the family signatures to be an absolute gem to store away in the family tree. This establishes the parents of Eugenie Neveu as the daughter of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe. The 1911 Census gives us April 1861 as the month and year for his birth and he was 50 years old. Locating the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe proved to be a difficult task.
Nosorigines is not helpful with the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu. Checking ancestry online trees I do not find any help with Jean Baptiste but Philomène Neveu has several trees with a brother Jean Baptiste and Alexandre. Alexandre is clearly at Pointe Gatineau and Adelaide (mother of Alexandre and Philomène) is on the census in 1901 living with Philomène. I am not happy with my decision to place Jean Baptiste in the Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché family of a year ago. I think that I need more information to make this attachment. On the 1891 census Jean Baptiste Neveu (married to Léa Lapointe) is a Grocer a general. It would be good to find Adelaide on this census. On the 1911 census she appears to be living on her own.
I read the 1891 census for Pointe Gatineau and found John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu with their two youngest children living about four units away from Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe and their family. Alexandre and his family were living about 10 units away from John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu. Can one conclude from such information (and they are the only Neveu families at Pointe Gatineau) that Jean Baptiste is a son of Jean Baptiste and Adelaide? It would be so nice to find the marriage. It does seem odd that Jean Baptiste and Léa would marry in 1882 with their first living child in 1885. The burial of the one child in 1882 would tend to make one think they married in 1881 or early 1882. We do know that Jean Baptiste is still living with his parents on the 1881 census in June. Looking for a marriage in the latter part of 1881 might be a good idea and I will do that on my next research day. I will not begin my generation folders for the Neveu family until I am thoroughly convinced that Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché are indeed the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu married to Léa Lapointe.
Le dix mai mil neuf cent neuf ne la displace
de deux bans de mariage et la publication
d'un troisième ban faité au prone de cette
paroisse par le Rev. J. A. Myrand curie de cette
paroisse, au prone paroissial, entre Gabriel
Mourier domicilié dans la paroise Notre Dame
d'Ottawa, fils majeur de Marius Mourier et
d'Antoinette Bertrand d'une part et de Eugénie
Neveu, fille majeure de J. B. Neveu et de Léa
Lapointé de cette paroisse d'autre part ne
s'étant découvert aucun autre empechement de
Publish Post
mariage, nous pretre soussigné avons reçu
leur mutuel consentement de mariage
et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale
en présence de J B Neveu and de Marius
Mourier
M[a]d[am]e Eugenie Mourier
Monsieur Gabriel Mourier
JB Neveu
M. Mourier
Albert Neveu
H.A. Patrice
L. Mourier
Mad[am] L. Mourier
Marie Louise Mourier
A. Mourier
H. Patrice
A. __nville
T. J. LeBlanc
B. Rocque
V. Legeault
B. Desjardins
L. Neveu
A.E. Richard Pr[et]é
I found all the family signatures to be an absolute gem to store away in the family tree. This establishes the parents of Eugenie Neveu as the daughter of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe. The 1911 Census gives us April 1861 as the month and year for his birth and he was 50 years old. Locating the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe proved to be a difficult task.
Nosorigines is not helpful with the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu. Checking ancestry online trees I do not find any help with Jean Baptiste but Philomène Neveu has several trees with a brother Jean Baptiste and Alexandre. Alexandre is clearly at Pointe Gatineau and Adelaide (mother of Alexandre and Philomène) is on the census in 1901 living with Philomène. I am not happy with my decision to place Jean Baptiste in the Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché family of a year ago. I think that I need more information to make this attachment. On the 1891 census Jean Baptiste Neveu (married to Léa Lapointe) is a Grocer a general. It would be good to find Adelaide on this census. On the 1911 census she appears to be living on her own.
I read the 1891 census for Pointe Gatineau and found John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu with their two youngest children living about four units away from Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe and their family. Alexandre and his family were living about 10 units away from John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu. Can one conclude from such information (and they are the only Neveu families at Pointe Gatineau) that Jean Baptiste is a son of Jean Baptiste and Adelaide? It would be so nice to find the marriage. It does seem odd that Jean Baptiste and Léa would marry in 1882 with their first living child in 1885. The burial of the one child in 1882 would tend to make one think they married in 1881 or early 1882. We do know that Jean Baptiste is still living with his parents on the 1881 census in June. Looking for a marriage in the latter part of 1881 might be a good idea and I will do that on my next research day. I will not begin my generation folders for the Neveu family until I am thoroughly convinced that Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché are indeed the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu married to Léa Lapointe.
Tuesday, February 23, 2010
Neveu and Lapointe families
Continuing with the Neveu and Lapointe families, I did find a baptism for Benjamin Nepveu son of Jean Baptiste Nepveu and Adélaide Piché with godparents Pierre Piché and Adélaide Tourangeau which incidentally happen to be the names of Adélaide's parents. The birthdate for Benjamin is 12 April 1861 at Grénville and as I check the census there is only a Jean Baptiste in this family (later on the census 1901) where he records his date of birth as 11 April 1861. I feel comfortable with saying that this is Jean Baptiste and that his name is Jean Baptiste Benjamin Neveu with his baptism 28 Apr 1861 at Grénville.
Finding the marriage at Pointe Gatineau does not prove to be an easy task. The microfilm is very poor first of all and secondly the notation in the margin for Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe is for a burial not a marriage. The date is 27 Mar 1884 I think. It would appear that pages may be missing from this register on the microfilm. Hopefully I will be able to look at another copy of this register at some point.
The tree on ancestry that gave me the marriage date also has a mention of Jean Baptiste's journals being in the archives at the University of Ottawa. I shall try to see them on my next visit to that archives. With his own words linking back, I shall be happier with these connections since I am unable to find their marriage myself at this point in time. Finding the baptism was rather interesting though and no burial for a Benjamin Neveu. It is not unusual to give a different baptismal name than the name that a child eventually uses.
I shall use this material with a mention of location so that eventually I will find the actual marriage lines for Jean Baptiste and Léa in 1882.
Proving Léa still has the difficulty of finding her baptism. I have found the baptisms of her older siblings but hers has evaded me thus far. She records her date of birth as 6 Mar 1862 on the 1901 census. Looking at their death registrations in Ontario will be helpful. The burial registrations do not list their parents names. The name Neveu is frequent enough that assuming the connection without the marriage lines is a little chancy - the journals should prove interesting perhaps in making the links.
I believe I may have located a problem with Léa's baptism. Her date of birth should be 1863 from the census and her burial record. The page that would contain her baptism at St-Hermas has an incomplete image. I have written off to Ancestry to see if they can resolve that problem. I shall await the results of my query for that item. Good find for me actually as I hadn't noticed that all but one census records her as born in 1863 (of course I looked carefully at that one!).
Continuing on with proving these lines and I think I shall spend some time sewing today.
Finding the marriage at Pointe Gatineau does not prove to be an easy task. The microfilm is very poor first of all and secondly the notation in the margin for Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe is for a burial not a marriage. The date is 27 Mar 1884 I think. It would appear that pages may be missing from this register on the microfilm. Hopefully I will be able to look at another copy of this register at some point.
The tree on ancestry that gave me the marriage date also has a mention of Jean Baptiste's journals being in the archives at the University of Ottawa. I shall try to see them on my next visit to that archives. With his own words linking back, I shall be happier with these connections since I am unable to find their marriage myself at this point in time. Finding the baptism was rather interesting though and no burial for a Benjamin Neveu. It is not unusual to give a different baptismal name than the name that a child eventually uses.
I shall use this material with a mention of location so that eventually I will find the actual marriage lines for Jean Baptiste and Léa in 1882.
Proving Léa still has the difficulty of finding her baptism. I have found the baptisms of her older siblings but hers has evaded me thus far. She records her date of birth as 6 Mar 1862 on the 1901 census. Looking at their death registrations in Ontario will be helpful. The burial registrations do not list their parents names. The name Neveu is frequent enough that assuming the connection without the marriage lines is a little chancy - the journals should prove interesting perhaps in making the links.
I believe I may have located a problem with Léa's baptism. Her date of birth should be 1863 from the census and her burial record. The page that would contain her baptism at St-Hermas has an incomplete image. I have written off to Ancestry to see if they can resolve that problem. I shall await the results of my query for that item. Good find for me actually as I hadn't noticed that all but one census records her as born in 1863 (of course I looked carefully at that one!).
Continuing on with proving these lines and I think I shall spend some time sewing today.
Monday, February 22, 2010
Piché and Tourangeau families
Now proving the 3x great grandparents Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe, I have not yet found the baptism of Jean Baptiste Neveu although he states he is born 11 Apr 1861. I have found the baptisms for both of his parents. However the marriage registration for Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe at Pointe Gatineau 20 Sep 1882 is difficult to read and I am still working on that transcription. The parents I have taken from an online table but I am now trying to verify the information.
I did find the parents of Adélaide Piché from her baptism as Pierre Piché and Adélaide Tourangeau but would still like to verify the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe before proceeding further back in time.
Since the biggest problem is finding the marriage of Jean Baptiste and Léa I decided to do some online searching and came across an interesting post to the Audet family message board:
In 1957, the Institut Généalogique Drouin in Montreal did our family tree. Innocent Audet mar.Reine Vincente, Nicolas Audet mar. Madelaine Després (1670), François Audet mar. Marguerite Bernard (1709), François Audet mar. Madeleine Baillargeon (1730), François Audet mar. Thérèse Létourneau (1763), Pierre Audet mar. Marie-Genevière Plouffe (1793), François-Audet Lapointe mar. Olive Richer (1852), Hyacinthe Lapointe mar. Angèle Grandmaison (1893), Delphis Lapointe mar. Catherine-Esther Villeneuve in 1922, Vital Lapointe mar. Pauline Richard (1947).
As always substantiating this online information is always a first priority but as I glanced back through the records that I have looked at already I am realizing that this claims there is a son François from the marriage of François Audet and Madeleine Baillargeon which does not appear on other people's charts. Working my way back from François Audet Lapointe married to Oliver Richer 26 Feb 1852 at St-Hermas is a good start back. I need to prove Léa back at some point and this will give me those details. I am still needing the marriage lines for Léa and Jean-Baptiste and will continue that search. The LDS must be going to put the registers for Point Gatineau online as they have the index set up. Hopefully they will be more legible than the ones on Ancestry at the moment. It is good having so many groups working on this material.
Perhaps by the end of today I will have proven the submission to the message board and learned a little more about the Audet dit Lapointe family.
I did find the parents of Adélaide Piché from her baptism as Pierre Piché and Adélaide Tourangeau but would still like to verify the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe before proceeding further back in time.
Since the biggest problem is finding the marriage of Jean Baptiste and Léa I decided to do some online searching and came across an interesting post to the Audet family message board:
In 1957, the Institut Généalogique Drouin in Montreal did our family tree. Innocent Audet mar.Reine Vincente, Nicolas Audet mar. Madelaine Després (1670), François Audet mar. Marguerite Bernard (1709), François Audet mar. Madeleine Baillargeon (1730), François Audet mar. Thérèse Létourneau (1763), Pierre Audet mar. Marie-Genevière Plouffe (1793), François-Audet Lapointe mar. Olive Richer (1852), Hyacinthe Lapointe mar. Angèle Grandmaison (1893), Delphis Lapointe mar. Catherine-Esther Villeneuve in 1922, Vital Lapointe mar. Pauline Richard (1947).
As always substantiating this online information is always a first priority but as I glanced back through the records that I have looked at already I am realizing that this claims there is a son François from the marriage of François Audet and Madeleine Baillargeon which does not appear on other people's charts. Working my way back from François Audet Lapointe married to Oliver Richer 26 Feb 1852 at St-Hermas is a good start back. I need to prove Léa back at some point and this will give me those details. I am still needing the marriage lines for Léa and Jean-Baptiste and will continue that search. The LDS must be going to put the registers for Point Gatineau online as they have the index set up. Hopefully they will be more legible than the ones on Ancestry at the moment. It is good having so many groups working on this material.
Perhaps by the end of today I will have proven the submission to the message board and learned a little more about the Audet dit Lapointe family.
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