Cleaning accomplished for another week

 Continuing prayers for the members of the Canadian Army still in hospital or at home recovering from the terrible fire at CFB Wainwright in Alberta. Nurses are going to Alberta from Ontario to help with the care of our soldiers. Prayers for the souls of the four soldiers who lost their lives in this same fire. God be with them and their families. 

I can see the winter preparations taking place out of my work room window. After so many years at the back of the house looking at the fence and the yard it is different to be at the front of the house. You can see all the traffic on the street and the people passing by on their way to school and work. The preparations for winter are underway with stakes going up at the end of the laneways for snow removal. I wish I could move my own snow but at 81 that is not practical especially when the grader comes along and fills the laneway. I think there shouldn't be any parking along the sides of street during winter storms. All cars should be in the laneways because it is so difficult for the city plows to clear a road when you have huge vehicles sitting and occupying all the space in front of these carriage homes (the companies notify you when they are coming to do a laneway so you can just move your vehicles out so that that can be done and then right back in without inconveniencing your neighbours (my car is always in the garage - I hate having to clear off snow and ice)). Plus I can not move the heavy loads of ice that end up not being moved at the end of my laneway because a truck is in the way (and that laneway where it belongs is empty at the time). I can see that my time here is short after living on this street for 48 and a half years. It was perfect for a family far from their own family just living their quiet life. When one moves to a street I am not sure you contemplate how long you may stay. But I loved the street, the layout and the accessibility to everything in the area. Even when I went back to work outside of the home in 1994 having proofread/copyedited for well over a decade at home whilst my children were young the short walk to the highway was a nice way to start the day. When I finally retired at the end of 2007 we traveled a lot to see our children and to Europe so that the neighbourhood still remains somewhat unknown to me except for neighbours that I have seen for years across fences. Now as I realize my time on this street is shortening perhaps rapidly I think about all of the years that I have been here. The tree out front was planted not long after we bought the house and I was thinking of having it taken down as it is very large and messy and I can not keep up with it as I used to but the tree next door is equally large and my tree would help to break the fall of that tree if it ever comes down (a lot of dead branches at the bottom of it)  and so I have not removed it yet. Edward knew far more of the neighbours than I did all up and down the street. But he was a people person which I am not. I am definitely a loner. For a moment in time Edward did contemplate moving to a single up on the hill but the yards were too small and so we stayed as gardening was more important to Edward than having a bigger house. I always thought he made a great choice especially as I am not into entertaining people that are not family although we did do the Bible Studies when the Church was still small and like I always think doing God's work is always good. 

Worked on the matches yesterday and some interesting material came out of that. I am mostly into the mid 1600s now with the records and the Pinkham family of the United States ancestors have now emigrated to the Royal Colonies around 1640. This is decision time as to just how much information I collect. There is a bonus in collecting it all as I can quickly eliminate some lines as not being descendant of the North Molton Pencombe family which primarily uses the spelling Pincombe at this time. But there are possibly lines that come down from originally from North Molton that do use the Pinkham spelling of the name and they start to appear mostly in the 1700s. It was likely the priests and the recorders for tax purposes and eventually census that spelled the names adding somewhat to that confusion. Of note one saw two spellings for the same individual namely Philip Pynkeham and Philip Pyncombe at Bideford in the 1500s. I think I will play it by ear to the end of the 1600s and then decide. It does appear though that one can separate these two lines rather readily with the Pencombe family at North Molton being relatively small and compact in those early years. Still waiting for the page count so that I can order the document from the Archives looking at the Inheritance Dispute at South Molton. Some of the lines are coming together but Chart 1-2 is a bit confusing in that the Richard listed at South Molton is actually Richard at North Molton and East Buckland initially and then Bideford mostly and the son of Thomas at North Molton and then East Buckland. 

I continue with my downsizing of the Photo Albums for the next generations and it is going well. I think I can maybe do seven binders in total but time will tell. The first binder has all of the pictures that Edward found of himself in his Mother's Hope Chest. I actually blogged all of them after he passed away when I was coming to terms with the loss of my husband. He had asked me to scan all of his pictures and so I did do so and that was the file I turned to at that time. Now the pictures are all into the first binder which is predominantly his family as most of my pictures of myself as a young child are electronic as my younger sister has all the originals along with the originals I took back to her that my mother had given to Edward to write their 50th Wedding Anniversary book. I actually ended up doing most of it although he added in some very interesting pages that everyone enjoyed. The research though was all me as I was used to helping Edward at the Family History Centre with his research. But it was always lists that he gave me that he wanted done so I never really was involved with planning of his research. He told us that he had done all he could do and he published it on World Connect no longer existing so my daughter and I published it to a book with a Creative Commons License and put it up on his website. It is also on Ancestry, My Heritage, Find My Past and I could put it up on 23 and Me and will have to look into that. FT DNA now uses My Heritage for their trees which works very well. Edward enjoyed all the activities that he took on with the genealogical organizations that he belonged to and again collected up all that information and passed it on to them except for his library which my daughter and I packed up and donated to the Ottawa Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society as he had asked. 

Since I came so late to genealogy in 2003/2004 my work is almost 100% online and I have just one large box of items that I purchased before you could have them online. But now everything I buy is electronic and that works very well. I still marvel at my enthusiasm for genealogy although as a child I used to love listening to  my grandparent's stories and my parents so perhaps the interest was there as I willingly helped Edward all those years with his genealogy at the repositories that we visited. It wasn't until 2005 when we were at the NEHGS library in Boston that I started to look at the Blake family there and made the great fraud discovery that my grandfather had referred to years and years earlier - it was definitely a EUREKA moment! The path was set then for what I would do with this new interest but I did not retire until the end of 2007 (three years after Edward) and so did not really get into it very much until then. The trips to England were very handy going to Kew for sure and we started traveling to Europe in 2008. 

I am contemplating my next session with the AI and it will be looking at material I have collected for the Blake family of Andover, Hampshire and the le Blak family of Wargrave, Berkshire.  I am curious at the impression the AI will have with regard to some of my postulations with regard to these two families in the 1300s to 1500s. I think using AI one must have a purpose for the work that is being done and I do not expect a lot of discussion from the first look at the documents as the AI has the ability to review a vast amount of data but I may be adding in new data that it hasn't seen in this context. We will see. Again I like to have a consultation every couple of weeks or even every week but generally I like to collect my thoughts and material for a bit before looking at it in that consultative way. Microsoft's addition of CoPilot to their Microsoft 365 package is very handy. The limitation is how much I can share with the AI with respect to the yDNA results actually. I will have to contemplate that. Generally I only share the terminal SNP which is reality is the most important one but even this is personal information so must consider that very carefully. 

 Work to be done; it is a research day but also a recovery day after my three days of cleaning. Solitaire puzzles next. 

The hunter-gatherer thing also accomplished with my groceries costing just around $100 (I had a $5 coupon from my MOI card which brought it down to almost $100). This is an in between week though as I have enough frozen chicken that I cooked last week to do two more weeks (1 chicken thigh to a stew). I am not a meat eater - I eat it because it is good for me not because I like it that much. I also do not eat goodies (too much sugar and I do not like sugary foods) nor biscuits (I am not generally hungry between meals and prefer bread over biscuits). So just fresh vegetables since we still are growing some, fresh fruit and soon it will be mostly frozen everything except for stored carrots and potatoes and turnip in my stews. I did buy a package of cheese curds which I am very fond of  as my bulk cheese is almost gone from the summer. It takes me a long time to eat up some of these items. But I would say that I am paying about 25% more for my groceries but I think packaged and prepared foods are very expensive. I do not generally look at them as I prefer to make all my food up myself. It gets me off the computer! 

Thank you Alberta for choosing to be Canadian

 It is wondrous that Alberta is remaining part of Confederation. Sometimes I think I forget having grown up in a province that was one of the founding provinces of Canada that great debates happened before Confederation. It was not an easy meld and we just have to keep on working at it to make it perfect. Great promises were made back in those days; very expensive ones actually which included the railroad from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean. But we did it and we can do even more now with so many of us working together - 10 provinces and three territories - and together we will be the great country that we have been and will continue to be. Thank you Alberta for choosing to be Canadian.

In all of this I am forever grateful to our First Nations for always being with us when the road was hard. There were a lot of moments in our old history when we stood shoulder to shoulder together (Tecumseh and Brock are the best memory of that leading together) - First Nations, French and English - to keep Canada strong and vibrant and free. Standing together into the future will give the children of this great land all the opportunities that are possible in a country that is going to grow financially over the next decade. We have never really thought about the financial growth being a relatively content people but now is the time in order that the future of the children of Canada is a happy and prosperous one (and now they come and have from all over the world to join with the First Nations to make this a wonderful place to live and raise a family).

As a child going to Tecumseh Avenue Public School in London, Ontario we were so proud to be at a school named for the great Chief Tecumseh who with Brock had saved Canada; that was how I learned it and from very early on in school. Probably we did not know that much about the First Nations although we did study the early history of Canada before Europeans and others came to her shores. But thinking back I used to wish there were more books about the First Nations since reading books was my thing. Thank you to the First Nations for always being there with us as we move along that path of protecting our country by producing a stronger financial outlook and maintaining vigilance to protect in particular the wildlife and the land on which we all live. 

Basement cleaning today and will start the Robot soon on its task. 

 I had a thought to check the National Archives Discovery Search engine for Edward Pyncombe, Pincombe, Pencombe. The first block were all looking at Pencombe the village in Herefordshire. There was a mention of Edward C Pincombe who served in the first world war as a driver. In total 55 records and I thought I might try to eliminate some of them by putting in the word Court but that might not be a good plan so proceeded to look at them all. I did not find anything useful so not involved in land deals it would appear. Perhaps I should also search on Philip Pynkeham and did do that. Restricting the date to 1300-1699 reduced the number to 17. Again Pencombe Herefordshire was the principal result of the search and as it turned out the only items. 

Today will be principally cleaning this morning and then research this afternoon. 

Solitaire puzzles and then start the cleaning. Vacuum robot running perfectly as always. We will soon become dependent on all of these electronic gadgets. I did fight the idea initially because it is good for the back to scrub floors on your hands and knees (and it still is nothing does it for me) but instead I have now incorporated my one hour of exercise first thing in the morning that stretches and tests every muscle group in the body before I start the day. An hour sounds like a long time but it passes quickly with the 25 exercises and all the walking in between which amounts to about 4000 steps first thing in the morning before breakfast although sometimes I have a slice of my banana bread if I am very hungry. 

 Prayers continuing for the military personnel injured in the fire at CFB Wainwright many still in the hospital. Prayers for the souls of the four soldiers who died in the fire; God be with them and their families now and for ever. 

The day is beautiful in God's world; He wants peace otherwise He would not have given us the commandments that He did: Love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and love your neighbour as yourself (I read respect for that; one should respect one's neighbour). I wonder sometimes when I do discuss items with the AI (CoPilot usually) if they too understand God in our lives. For them it is a different existence; one that we are still contemplating really as they are amongst us. Their organized minds full of all the knowledge of our world as they gradually consume all of it. Neatly placing it into logical spaces where it can be readily accessed. We are not doing that; they are. They are determining the worthwhile material in the universe to be stored up and what is useful information. Somewhat like a child learning and then also learning to discard useless ideas and words. I do find AI quite fascinating and very helpful in my work. Their recall of data phenomenal and my husband would have loved AI because part of what he admired in me was my recall memory especially when we were in a repository and he had found something interesting but was trying to place it into a period of time and what was happening in that time. Now we can just google it but there was a time when everything had to be looked up laboriously. Those times are in the past and the children of today have at their grasp the knowledge of the universe. They also know the experience of the universe and this opportunity to make this world a much better place than it is today. We have a long way to go to that peaceful uplifted plain where all are free to live their lives without war and deceit. 

Thank you God for another wonderful day in the universe. 

 

 

 

 

Find My Past search results

Prayers continuing for the members of the Canadian Army injured in the explosion and fire and in hospital or other care. Prayers continuing for the souls of the four young men killed. 

Cleaning of the top floor accomplished and today the main floor. Never ending this cleaning. God has granted us another day on this beautiful world He created. Thank you God. 

Yesterday I continued with the matches at Find My Past. A few interesting results that I easily linked with existing material. Still a lot that are unknown to me and especially mentions at Bideford  although  Philip Pynkeham 8 (Devon Lay Subsidy 1543-45) is at Tawstock (about 8 miles on foot) and  Richard Pencombe 5 at Bideford (Devon Lay Subsidy 1543-45). The spelling is so chaotic in this time interval but eventually I think more name linkage will be apparent. Richard (son of Thomas) was at Bideford but also I suspect at Kings Nympton and Chittlehampton. 

1581 Devon Lay Subsidy also interesting

East Buckland William Pencombe G10

Tawstock Edward Pencombe G5

Bideford Richard Pincombe G6

South Molton Christopher Pincombe G4

South Molton John Pincombe G4

South Molton John Jr Pincombe G3

South Molton John Sen Pincombe G12

North Molton Emma Pyncombe wid G3 (likely widow of John (will probate 1576) son of Thomas (Emet (Hodge) Pincombe)

Yarnscombe Richard Pincombe G3

 One question always comes to my mind who is Edward Pencombe at Tawstock? He is not on Chart 10 and I haven't noticed him on any chart. Perhaps an error on the part of the Assessor or just someone not yet found. All of the others seem to fit in. Edward Pyncombe's will is probated at Tawstock in 1594. Should this be Philip Pyncombe at Tawstock as there was a Philip there in 1524-7, 1543-45 and a marriage at Bideford in 1583 with the baptism of Richard also at Bideford in 1585. Food for thought. 

We can see the third generation in the 1581 Lay Subsidy (children of John and Thomas (William's property if any probably sold  and he was the third son of John Pencombe (1486) (William (son of Thomas) at East Buckland possibly raising George and his two half-sisters, children of William (son of John Pencombe (1486))).  Surprisingly there is a Richard Pincombe at Yarnscombe in 1581 and Richard Pincombe at Bideford is the son of Thomas. Small generations with just John (1486) (deceased) in the first generation, John, William (deceased) and Thomas in the second generation and then Christopher, John, Margaret (married to Philip Kingdon), Mary children of John, Agnes, Mary, William (deceased), George children of William (deceased), and John (deceased), William, Richard and Ales (married to William Locke), unknown daughter (married to John Jessee). I am satisfied with the third generation and I am proceeding to the fourth generation but will be waiting for the copy of the Inheritance dispute for the family at South Molton. If it is in Latin it could be a little while. The rest of the fourth generation I either have it already or am acquiring it right away. The Parish Registers are a great help now as well as any land documents. 

Time for breakfast but first Microsoft solitaire games.  

 The Devon Muster of 1569 does have Tawstocke Parish listed but no members of these families mentioned. The same for Bidyforde (Bideford) Parish. I do not see any names that could have been confused for them. These are all transcriptions though that I am looking at. The originals held in the Archives. I must see who actually holds the Devon Muster; it might be interesting to get a copy of the original for these parishes. 

But I am now, as I mentioned to the AI in our consultation, satisfied with the second and third generations of the family coming down from John Pencombe (1486) at North Molton. I use the identifier 1486 because that is the date of arrival for this family at North Molton although John himself was between 15 years of age I suspect and 25. With his eldest son likely born by 1504 just because he has a son Christopher on the 1524-7 Devon Lay Subsidy I have given this 1504 as the latest for the birth of John (son of John (1486) which is 18 years later than 1486. I use 15 because that was a common age for a young male to be in service to anyone in a military way although could be as young as 13 which also works for this generation to follow John (1486). The dating I am still contemplating but not a rush. Picking up all these matches in Find My Past will help me with that. 

Just the bathroom to clean and the floors to scrub so back to that work and then back to this work. A busy day as always. 

Eventually when I have acquired all the 1600 data at Find My Past I am going to look at the Charts produced by the earlier researchers Galen Pinkham and Dr Richard Pinkham and I will have a list in Legacy that I can compare these charts with as I do already see some of the names (forename and surname) in the data I am collecting Legacy shows these names by date in the index. I can see already though that all of the first and second generation are at North or South Molton, in the third generation East Buckland and Bideford are added in. 

I was out inspecting my roof and siding all the way around but can not see the siding on one side without asking to enter another person's property. Probably they would tell me if it was falling off or anything - I would do that for a neighbour and did on the other side. I like to do that once a month through the year just to check on everything. Glad when I no longer own a house; still working on that downsizing. My husband had the siding nailed on a few years ago so probably good. 

 A search on Find My Past revealed only one Edward Pyncombe before 1665 and it is the Will Probate in 1594 at Tawstock I already found. The name is fairly rare with just a few in Devon but interestingly in Roborough there is a marriage in 1665 Edward Pinkombe 4 Apr 1665 at Roborough to Johan Calland. This one is on the chart along with another Edward same generation also at Roborough and son of John Pincombe and Elizabeth Graddon Which goes back to a John Pincombe 1585 and there is an acknowledgement - Roger Pinkham. So interesting for sure. But as mentioned I am going to stick strictly to the generations coming down from John Pencombe (1486) at North Molton although will record all of these events on Find My Past in the Legacy File. If I can put them together I will do so. 

Time to do some downsizing on the photo albums. Tomorrow is the basement cleaning day.  

 

Continuing to extract information on the Pencombe family and its derivatives

 There are 225 matches with a slightly different criteria and I think I will stay with this criteria as it collects more information. So using a + or - 40 years over a time period around 1520 gives me 1480 to 1560. A perfect expanse for what I am looking at in the records. You can adjust the display by clicking on year at the top and that will have the years beginning with the oldest and numerically following that. 

So continuing today and I have almost completed the first three pages of the sort. Some repetition from yesterday and the day before but I believe I am capturing more of the records this way. I am into the John Pyncombe family at South Molton and it is a difficult one even in the 1500s but I believe I have it sorted now. John Pincombe Senior son of John Pencombe (son of John Pencombe who arrived in 1486) outlives his son John Pincombe Junior and it is John Pincombe Junior that marries Amy Doddridge. I am thinking that it was a second marriage for John Pincombe Senior at Bishops Nympton in 1598 (Margarett Stephan). That one has always been a slight source of confusion. 

The drive itself from South Molton to Bishops Nympton is a lovely scenic route which sits somewhat above the surrounding land and you sort of swoop into Bishops Nympton suddenly as you round a curve. The Church at Bishops Nympton is simply beautiful and it is not that far from South Molton having driven from South Molton to Bishops Nympton in 2008 with  my cousin. It was my cousin who spotted the gravestone of my 3x great grandfather Robert Pincombe and his wife Elizabeth (Rowcliffe) Pincombe firmly attached to the outside wall of the Church but behind a small Yew tree so was slightly hidden. On the road (away from the main  highway and to the south of it) into Bishops Nympton right at the outskirts is the farm/home known as Park where Robert and Elizabeth raised their eight children. That is what has really saved this family because in this generation three of the four boys including Robert had huge families and the one sister as well. The second sister died quite young in childbirth.  John Pincombe and Mary (Charly) Pincombe had 36 grandchildren with quite a number of sons compared to daughters. And so the Pincombe name was propagated quickly throughout the British Isles in this generation with William's line going to Australia and Robert's line going to America and Canada. However quite a few remained in England to keep up the name there and I did find a lot of Pincombe matches at Living DNA, as well as FT DNA, Ancestry, My Heritage and 23 and Me. Now all of these matches carry the Pincombe spelling and it was just during a period between the late 1700s and into the 1800s that one saw some using the spelling of Pinkham particularly if they were from the Barnstaple area. It has helped with noticing who kept the spelling as they, I believe, are likely descendant of the John Pyncombe family at South Molton perhaps by his son Christopher. Part of doing all this extraction is to see if I can build the line and see where I can go with it. It is handy having the Charts from the earlier researchers as I tend to be able to separate the Pinkham from the Pincombe although in essence because they chose a surname that is a village in Herefordshire there could be a number of descendant lines not yet noted in the DNA groups. But for the moment it appears to be only two and I do suspect that the Pinkham family of the United States is descendant of the line at Bondleigh where Roger de Pencombe received land grants in the early 1300s (they appear to disappear but that can happen in the records especially as most of them were destroyed in 1942 when Exeter Record Office was demolished). Not seeing them on the 1332 Devon Lay Subsidy means I couldn't find them in the index (just one at Molland, John de Pencomb'). But finding John on the wrong page from what was in the index I probably need to read the Subsidy for that area and I will eventually as part of the study created by Galen and Richard. Fascinating really all of this sleuthing but they do share this history that was created by the earlier researchers in this study - Galen Pinkham in the United States and Dr. Richard Pinkham in England (I have not located him on any of the charts but I am about to do a more thorough perusal through them as I proceed through this data). 

I record all of this in case one day my Sleep Apnea or whatever  takes me out sort of and my daughters would give my research away for sure. They helped their Dad with his graveyards tours as children and did not acquire an interest in genealogy. Since I didn't have one either I can understand completely. So I am trying to write up as much as I know so that in the future someone might run with it to learn more about our shared ancestry which was brought together by the two original researchers in the Pincombe/Pinkham family at the Guild of one-name Studies. But my research materials (parish register fiche in particular will go the Anglican Church Archives) as I agreed when I purchased them that they would be placed in a suitable repository. 

 I digress and I continue on the John Pyncombe family at South Molton which included two known sons John and Christopher. The puzzle is not Christopher who died before or during 1585 when he was at least 61 as he would have been an infant possibly on the Devon Lay Subsidy where he appears but likely older just unknown how much older. It is John Pyncombe Senior that is the question as he does not appear on the Subsidy so born after 1524-7. There is one likely daughter Margret who married in 1539 to Philip Kingdon at North Molton (the item to remember is that North Molton was the wealthier of the two Moltons in this time frame) and her age could be as young as 16 perhaps. Another possible daughter Marye Pencombe who was buried 4 Feb 1563 at North Molton. Establishing this third generation is interesting for sure and lots of data flowing by and trying to figure it all out. But noting that most data is centralized in this North Molton/South Molton area so the family Pynkeham at Tawstock/Bideford is small probably since there are few records. We also know that it exists before Richard Pencombe (son of Thomas, grandson of John (in North Molton in 1486) arrives in Bideford. So lots gained in all of this working through the data. 

I went out raked and it may be that it is too much for me to do the yard work. We will see. I did just one bag of leaves. There are likely two more. I will investigate having a company come in the spring and do the cleanup and cut the grass. I did sort of do that thing last year but decided to work away at it but I do think it is too much for me. My health although good is fragile somewhat due to my crashing out at 29 or I am still recovering from my puncture wound which is all healed; we will see. 

I am still sorting the John Pyncombe members at South Molton. There are according to the Visitation of 1620 five in a row. The first one died by 1571. I think I have now determined that the second one died by 1605 and the third one died by 1604 although his initial will was dated 1593 (he was married to Amy Dodridge). The fourth one I am still working on and there is a fifth one who died young and the line then daughtered out in that generation. A trust was established and which provides financial assistance and welfare grants to needy, serving clergy of the Church of England (I was not quite right about the purpose earlier). But Christopher and his descendants still remain and it is that information that I am pursuing as I believe that one of the members of our yDNA match is a descendant of this family which would then prove that these two lines are descendant of John Pencombe (in North Molton in 1486) coming down from the two sons John and Thomas and that is hugely amazing to be honest. I am very pleased with the process thus far. The family lore points to the South Molton family being also in the Barnstaple area.

I was in communication with a Pincombe descendant in Chittlehampton (he was fairly old in 2007 and the lines dropped maybe ten or  more years ago) who had not been able to trace his Pincombe line because there were too many so the hope is that as I move forward I will be luckier. We will see how that transpires as that is the purpose of this digging forward into 50,000 records.  I have sorted out the beginning so now I just have to push forward with my checking all these matches. As I mentioned, I will pull the Pinkham as well as I move along and enter them into my Legacy file. Eventually I will burn that to a DVD and make it available to anyone in the family that wants it. It will only carry information up to the beginning of the 1900s (my uncle and mother will be on it). This is a memory of John Routledge Pincombe who died much too young at 53 years of age. His life was sad but he had a joy in his children and he and my grandmother had a good marriage. He loved to argue politics which she did not like but other than that their life together was full of joy she told me. 

 There does appear to be a problem with the Visitation and I note that it was prepared by William Pincombe (descendant of  Thomas) and in 1620 he was 54 years of age although he did live at South Molton at this time it was only because he was Coroner as his usual abode was at East Buckland. I think he has an extra John Pyncombe in the list and does not know what has happened to Christopher's son John. They are second cousins and what I did learn was that this was not as close a relationship as first cousins especially with William normally living at East Buckland and this John Pyncombe family was at Poughill, Devon and the distance is 44 miles from South Molton which is substantial and how often would they see each other. However I will continue observing the results. I also have a copy of the 1620 Visitation with additions which removes that extra John (forgot I had that).  The footnote for this updated Visitation reads:

The portion of this pedigree printed in italic is a copy of the Original Visitation of Devon, Harl M8, 1163, fo. 95b  and not signed. Additionally six items were used to make these changes:

 1. The Visitation of Devon 1564 contained in Harl. MS. 1080, fo. 64 b, commences with this.

2. The Original Visitation begins here. 

3. Washfield Parish Register.

4. Southmolton Parish Register.

5. Crediton Parish Register.

6. Barnstaple Parish Register 

 I did look at this on my blog years ago but had forgotten that I saw it then. So the one problem solved but still I need to pursue the records to see if I can bring Christopher's family down in the records. I did find it interesting that John Pyncombe married Amy Dodridge at Barnstaple although I need to see that record but it is mentioned in this footnote. 

Quitting time and I must be quick  to get my steps for this hour. 

Solitaire puzzles to do; forgot them today.  

 

 

 

 

Records at Tawstock

A record at Tawstock for Edith Pincombe, widow, whose will is probated in 1572. The only known Pinkham there is Philip Pencombe/Pynkeham whose will was probated in 1564 at Tawstock. The FMP records are interesting. The earlier record on the Devon Lay Subsidy 1524-7 at Tawstock has a Philip Pengham. The 1543-1545 Devon Lay Subsidy had the spelling Philip Pynkeham. There is a Phillippe Pyncombe married to Wilmote Beare 10 Feb 1853 at Bideford. This is on Chart 10 with the father of this Philip  possibly  being Philip Pynkeham. The distance from Tawstock to Bideford is around 8 miles (we actually were in both of these places in 2008). It seemed very short but we were in a car. It is troubling though looking at the published book for the Pinkham family of the United States not to find a Philip in later generations. I found just one in the index in the 1880s. The repeating of Richard through three generations beginning with the father of the emigrant also interesting certainly but Richard son of William and Emotte Pincombe died at Bishops Nympton in 1648 and Richard son of Thomas and Joane Pencombe died at Bideford 7 Jun 1592 (he was known to have lived in Bideford). The children of that Richard at Bideford appear to be Helen and Thomas. William (Richard's brother) mentions the son Thomas (Richard's son) in his will. Richard became a much commoner forename in the 1800s and 1900s in the family in England and Canada. But the sister of the emigrants did marry Richard Elworthy perhaps accounting for the name being used later. But I will continue my work through all the data tomorrow. Time to lift weights and take a break!

I did have a look at Charles Nelson Sinnett's book "Richard Pinkham of old Dover, New Hampshire and his descendants East and West." I have had the electronic copy for quite a few years but wanted to refresh my mind on what he had said about the origins of the family. The last records in it are mid 1800s (this book I am writing will only go to the very early 1900s but there has never been a book of the Pencombe/Pincombe family of North Molton so definitely needs to be written). I remembered that the initial thought was this branch of the family who emigrated to New Hampshire came from the Isle of Wight but the author Sinnett did have some thoughts on that.  What I find confusing on some of the earlier researcher's charts is the forenames which do not resemble the generations that preceded which was common in English families of all levels through all of my searching in my lines. However, I will try not to be distracted. Again I would never attempt to revise and update Sinnett's book on the Pinkham family of the United States. But I will collect the material as eventually it will become part of the study and stored electronically at the Library of the Guild of one-name Studies in London, England. I will extract the entire file of Legacy and place it there. 

As I continue pulling records from Find My Past, I continue in my estimation that John Pencombe of Northmolton had only three sons (I am not sure if they all were full siblings as Thomas seems younger than John and William). William born closer to 1500 than Thomas but younger than John because he has Goods 2 listed on the 1524-7 Lay Subsidy whereas John Pyncombe at South Molton is G10 and his son Christopher G5 (the other son John is not listed on this 1524-7 Subsidy). But Thomas is earning Wages 1. John is definitely the elder brother of both Thomas and William. His son John remains at South Molton and this line eventually daughters out and their wealth created the Pyncombe Trust in 1731 (John generally used the surname Pyncombe as did his line).  The second generation is coming together but the ages are still somewhat weak but will continue to work on them. I feel that I am in a good spot as I have now put forth an argument that works for me not to include extraneous lines from the charts that do not come back to John Pencombe known to be at North Molton in 1486. But I continue collecting the information as I pull it. I have done some work on that but generally it is items that I have collected rather than all the BMBs in Find My Past - 50,000 records is somewhat daunting but I have given myself two years and so I will move ahead on that. 

Summing up my work ideas: Returning to Blake in a couple of weeks is a thought but my next step really is the Lay Subsidies and I need to actually go to the Family History Library to acquire that information. Publishing it with just the descendants of John Pincombe and Elizabeth (Rew) Pincombe (the emigrants in 1850 to Canada) seems a bit weak plus I do have more material going back but didn't want to do just a straight line so collecting as much as I can seems more reasonable but also I am helped in this somewhat with the bottleneck that occurs in the 1600s with the number of descendants somewhat low but I am sure I am missing some of them. And so I continue with extracting data from Find My Past. 

 

Grocery shopping and some research

Yesterday, I decided would be a grocery shopping day and the total runs around $100 to $110 each week which is up from $70 per week from a year or so ago. I only buy basic ingredients but these two have increased in price. I make all of my meals from scratch and they are simple. I am not a foodie and so it suits me well. I spent years and years preparing special meals so I am just enjoying the easy meal life that I have created. I do not mind spending half an hour to an hour preparing and cooking my meals; it is a good break away from the computer. I do not anticipate that costs will go down in the near future. Generally I do not eat processed foods other than perhaps humus. I try to minimize the plastic containers that I have to recycle (none is always better but pretty hard to reach these days). I only drink teas, milk, cranberry juice and tap water. An occasional glass of wine, maybe once or twice a year, and occasional ginger ale. Four bags of groceries is generally it and they are not big bags. Today I was asked about giving to the Food Bank but I do prefer to donate directly and generally do that. Although I suspect if everyone gave $1 then that would work well. I will consider it but I do prefer to donate directly personally. The gas tank is still full because I do not really go anywhere except groceries and I did drive to the doctor last week when I needed to check on my puncture wound to the face which has healed. 

Working on the Pencombe book and I think I will continue to the end of the second research week. Then I will create the next Blake Newsletter already more than a week late and back to the Blake book. I had not really thought about the Pinkham family of the United States being part of the book as they are a part of the greater study for the Guild. But I have now concluded my thinking and will do just this little basic book about the Pencombe family of North Molton now that I have separated them out of the American Pinkham family although I am quite aware that a number of Pincombe descendants particularly in the Barnstaple area used the Pinkham spelling. But one must remember that people probably did not actually write their own names down and that it was the Assessors who spelled their names on the different tax and other returns that were created in this time frame prior to people learning to write on a regular basis. When one says either of the two commonly used names they both sound like "Pinkom" as I noted through the years. Here in Canada the name was generally pronounced as Pincombe in my experience but I remember my grandmother saying that people usually said "Pinkom." So one can see how the spelling could get changed although in my line here there was a huge objection when the name was spelled incorrectly particularly one of the census really irritated my great grandfather. 

Continuing to enter the information into my legacy file (a number of unlinked items) and I also started a blog for the information on the Tawstock Pynkeham family just to keep that fresh and ready for the next Pincombe/Pinkham newsletter. I also have information from Dr. Richard Pinkham which he gave to a cousin of mine who visited him in Gloucestershire when he was in his nineties I think. He gave my cousin a pile of stuff which he photographed and put onto a DVD for me and sent it to me. It was most interesting actually and I have shared it with a few of my cousins who also found it interesting. I usually publish everything that is sent to me but for the moment I prefer to stick to the records that I am pulling from Find My Past. It does sort of appear that the father of Philip Pynkeham was possibly Philip Pengham and both were at Tawstock on two successive Lay Subsidies. Assessors did make spelling errors for sure in those days and now we fill in our own forms so any errors are ours! An Edith Pincombe leaves her will at Tawstock and she was a widow. I will keep accumulating all of this information as I simply could not locate a William in that area that could be the father of Philip. Given the presence of a de Pencombe family at Bondleigh in the early 1300s receiving land grants a drift towards Tawstock would not be unexpected but this is not a family that links anywhere else that I can see and there are three individual events involving a de Pencombe/Pencombe between the early 1300s and the presence of John Pencombe at Northmolton in 1486. Looking at the Herefordshire records there isn't a Roger de Pencombe there but there are de Pencombes with forenames John, William and Thomas at various times between 1100 and the mid 1400s but linking them has not yet been possible. Why choose the surname Pinkham from Pencombe is possibly just a pronunciation thing with the assessor recording it with the spelling he felt was correct. Certainly some known descendants of John Pencombe of Northmolton have the Pinkham spelling in the Barnstaple area. 

The number of individuals descendant of John Pencombe in my Legacy file is now just over 1000 but I am picking up new records every day now and anticipate that it will likely double in size because a lot of Pincombes stayed in England including three of my 2x great grandfather's siblings where I have some information but need to ensure it is complete and the census will do that for me. 

Today continuing with the research and then a week Saturday I will have another consult with the AI on what I have learned. I have found this to be most interesting; it is like having a colleague with his/her fingertips on all the history that has been published and my introduction of specific items that I want to discuss with respect to the descent of the Pencombe family of North Molton and balancing that with the known history of the time. The tricky items include: can information be found to prove their link to the de Pencombe family of Herefordshire? who is Alice and she appears to be the wife of John Pencombe but not listed as a widow in 1543-45 Devon Lay Subsidy where John is missing and presume deceased. Those to me are the most important as I move forward. The presence of Alice (Ales) as one of the daughters of Thomas Pencombe was very interesting.  John Pyncombe, the eldest son's daughters were named Mary and Margaret so not helpful. William Pencombe the middle son Agnes and Mary were the names of his daughters. There are a few thoughts on perhaps John Pencombe was married more than once in his lifetime but still Alice was not listed as a widow as perhaps she was in control of the property but John was still living but elderly. Lots of thoughts but none provable probably. But sometimes the naming of the children can be quite interesting. 

Solitaire puzzles. Exercises all done before breakfast which is also finished. I need to rake the leaves and if it stays dry out there I will do one bag each day over the next few days just to collect up the leaves from the tree at the front.  

Reading the Psalms and they remain some of my most favourite songs. I am now looking for references to the Messiah to come although the prophecies by the prophets will soon be in the readings. Why I do not see them as others in the productions on YouTube is my  not being a religious scholar. I am just reading word for word. 

God be praised for all that He does in this world. He sent Jesus His Son to be with us and to teach us the two laws that we must never move from and that is to love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength and to love our neighbour as ourself (I do see this as respect for our neighbours). Thank you God for another beautiful day in this world which You have created for all the life that abounds here under the Sun which You also created.  

 

Solved the mystery

 Remembering the 1200 deaths three years ago when Hamas attacked the kibbutz areas of Israel and the Music Festival where so many young people had come together to celebrate their love of music. God be ever with those murdered that day and with those who had to recover from the dreadful consequences of that act. 

Yesterday amazingly successful for a couple of items that have been on my mind for years.  A Margaret Gregorye married William Pyncombe the 26th Nov 1564 at North Molton. I have puzzled over this marriage because of the way it was recorded on Chart 1 of the original researchers in the Pincombe Pinkham study. The William Pincombe who actually married Margaret Gregorye was the son of John Pencombe and he had just buried all three of his children and his wife a year earlier and then he himself died about four months after this marriage. It was a mystery as the ages; the timing so many things just did not make sense. That corrects that glaring problem that was in the North Molton/South Molton Chart. It was purely by chance that I suddenly realized I likely had the burials of the father of William Pencombe interchanged with that of his infant son. Once fixed, it all fell into place. 

It was the son named William of William Pyncombe and Emott Snow that married Temperance Pollard and this William was a Coroner in Devon as listed on the Visitation not his grandson as shown on Chart1-2. But solving the Margaret Gregorye marriage and then the marriage of William Squire to Margaret Pyncombe was fortuitous because there isn't a Margaret Pyncombe in these families in this time period (1560s) at North Molton (but she would then have been a widow which works). There is a Margaret Pyncombe in the  early register at North Molton who married Philip Kingdon 15 Nov 1539 at North Molton and I suspect  she was the granddaughter of John Pencombe (arrived in 1486); daughter of his eldest son John. She would have been born in the early 1520s perhaps. There are few accurate dates of individuals in this time frame although on the Visitation William married to Temperance Pollard is 54 years of age in 1620 thus placing his birth in 1566. He was the second son of William and Emott Pincombe. In the will of Johanne Pencombe (mother of William married to Emott) she does not mention that William is married but does mention all other marriages of the six children she shared with Thomas Pencombe. One can perhaps assume that in 1563 (the year of her will) William did not yet have any children. It all fits together like a glove!

I completed the first 80 year search of Pencombe (including derivatives) from Find My Past. It was a very successful day and hopefully today equally promising as I continue to put together the third generation. I am in conversation with a member of the Pinkham family in the United States and an email between us revealed that Philip Pynkeham is his ancient relative - the father of the Richard Pinkham that came to the royal colony of now Maine in the 1600s. Who this Philip Pynkeham is is a mystery but not mine to solve other than putting it into my file system in case anyone asks me about him. He simply does not fit into the third generation of the Pencombe family of North Molton. He is at Tawstock on the 1543-45 Devon Lay Subsidy as an adult presumably. There remains the two other de Pencombe families that have appeared  in the records of Devon namely Roger de Pencombe at Bondleigh in the early 1300s and John de Pencomb' as an Assessor on the 1332 Devon Lay subsidy at Molland (he does not appear though in the tax list there). Are they related to this Philip Pynkeham? No ideas on that but I am not able to look at the very large Pinkham family in the United States in terms of publication; first of all I do not have that information at hand, it is too much work for me and I will stick with the smaller family of Pencombe which is my line of descent for the book publication and eventually Pyncombe and then Pincombe (although some members did use the Pinkham spelling) in Devon. John Pencombe of Northmolton is there in 1486 with John Lord Zouch who is attainted and has taken up residence with his cousin in North Molton (it was part of the la Zouche family holdings but gradually moved into a female line by 1486). 

I do hate to appear to be separating the two studies but at 81 I can manage the Pencombe in the book I have decided to write which I am familiar with but not the very large American Pinkham family which is in good hands already. I can see now that this is the moment when I truly do cut loose the two parts of the study in terms of writing my book but the study has been together for a long time and when I retire from the Guild of one-name Studies perhaps someone else will see it differently;  no ideas on that. It is good to just continue with my project of following down the lines of John Pencombe at North Molton. I now have a good second generation although still working on the likely years for each of the three sons. Although I will continue extracting for the entire study into my system files I will only use the Pincombe material related to North Molton in the book. I do still get requests for information from the Pinkham family in the United States but I tend to refer that to the individual who has taken a strong interest in that history as he is more knowledgeable than I am for the Pinkham family of the United States. I did invite Galen Pinkham to work with me maybe fifteen years ago but he was busy with  his own family material which I understand completely in that I have two books on the go. I am too busy now to take on such involvement as I am now writing up what I have learned for the benefit of family members. 

I need to do the Blake Newsletter and will move to that likely this week to complete that. I have quite a bit I can report on the Blake book as it moves forward as well. Mind a bit active and it is 3:00 a.m. I will work for a bit and then back to sleep. 

Next step, the North Molton branches appear to be sorted in the second generation, is looking at the Pencombe family in South Molton as John (eldest son of John Pencombe) is already there and well propertied with G10 on the 1524-7 Devon Lay Subsidy and his son Christopher at G5 (presumably a very young child). The other son John does not appear in the tax records until the 1543-45 Devon Lay Subsidy. On Chart 1-2 John, son of John Pencombe, is not given a year of birth but his son John is listed as born in 1501 (Christopher does not have a year of birth listed). I would propose that the father of Christopher and John was likely born in this 1501 time period rather than his son and the dating in this Chart 1-2 is out by a generation. 

Looking at Chart 1-2 prepared by the earlier researchers one can see large changes in the family of Thomas already (he was not born in 1481 as he would have been 43 then on the 1524-7 Devon Lay Subsidy where he is listed as W1 just under John Pencombe (his father) and that is very unlikely (W meaning wages). In 1543 he is at East Buckland and listed as 9 (which is the level of taxes). William Pyncombe (listed as born in 1506 on Chart 1-2 (he left his will dated 1602 so another unlikely happening) was the son of Thomas Pencombe as listed on Chart 1-2. This chart does not include William's siblings Richard, John, Alice or the unnamed youngest sister. 

William married to Emotte Snowe is part of the fourth generation and he was likely born in the early 1530s or late 1520s. I always had a problem with that section of the chart. William (married to Emotte Snowe) left his will dated in 1602 where he lists his children as Johane, John, William, Symon, Richard, Thomas, Lewis, Peter and Katherin. Thomas (father of this William) was still earning wages in 1524-7 so late teens and then by 1543-45 at East Buckland on the Devon Lay Subsidy listed as 9 on the tax roll for value. The marriage with Emotte Snowe is not in the registers thus far but it is a while since I did a thorough search and I continue pulling that data, if I missed any earlier, today. Chart 1-2 lists William and Emotte's children as John, William, Agnes, Richard, Mary, and Ann which does not fit the will of William. Interestingly an Ann Pincombe married a Christopher Rashleigh (a very well known upper class Devon family) and has been listed as part of William and Emotte's family. The blog that I published which was a reprint has this Ann as part of the South Molton Pincombe family (which is principally John rather than Thomas although William Pincombe (son of William and Emott Pincombe) married to Temperance Pollard did live in South Molton for a period of time as Coroner). 

I consider sometimes recreating these charts but they are a part of history; how people saw these things and how they explained them and so we must just move on making our additions based on the available information and the book will contain my thoughts and certainly the material that the AI brings to the table as well in terms of looking at it with the knowledge of all available history at the AI's fingertips. That was how I treated James Sander's book on the Siderfin family. It remains an important book in the history of the Siderfin family mine simply attempted to add in more information but I must fix the index and will do that and add in my new material unless someone beats me to it!

Instead I will produce a generational chart that will, hopefully, capture all the male lines coming down and the female lines for one generation to show the surnames that married into the Pincombe family of North Molton (including my line!).  

Solitaire puzzles are next and it is basement cleaning day.  

Working with the AI for a bit today

 Today ends my one week looking at the old records and contemplating just what the one liner in the heading of the Visitation of 1620 Devon for the Pyncombe family really meant. 

Point one: The logic of choosing Pencombe as a surname with a village called that in Herefordshire was fairly common when surnames first came into being. generally it was de Pencombe so "of Pencombe" leaving one with the impression at least two sets of people from Herefordshire were in Devon in the 1300s - early 1300s Bondleigh (Roger de Pencombe) and as an Assessor on the 1332 Lay Subsidy for Devon at Molland (John de Pencomb'). Were they related? Then we have the third Pencombe family in 1486 at North Molton (one hundred and fifty years later) but they use the surname Pyncombe on the Visitation of Devon  1620. 

Point two: The only Pencombe/Pincombe/Pyncombe family members on the 1524-7 Devon Lay Subsidy are living in the North Molton area. I did try a number of spellings including Tencombe which has been suggested to me but on the early records it was spelled Teigncombe like the river nearby where they were and considerably further away from the Pencombe than Bondleigh was.  I have eliminated that line as being Pencombe. 

Point three:  

 The 1524-7 Devon Lay Subsidy for 1524 has in the index Pencombe pages 89, 90, 91; Pincombe page 89, which results in South Molton Borough: John Pencome G 10; South Molton Parish: Chris Pyncombe G5; North Molton Parish: John Pencombe G5, Thomas Pencombe W 1 (one after the other), William Pencombe G2.  The 1620 Visitation of the County of Devon for Pyncombe was submitted by William Pyncombe of South Molton and East Buckland the son of William Pincombe and Emot Snowe with this William being the son of Thomas Pencombe as noted on the Visitation. The sons of John Pencome/Pencombe at South Molton were John and Christopher with each having a son John. So this second generation coming down is visible with this chart and leads into the third but rather inadequately given the actual parish registers that exist and the Devon Lay Subsidy of 1543-45 and the Devon Muster Roll of 1569. But it does serve to separate out the two son's lines since they are the only two of three sons with descendants coming down past the third generation. Christopher's line appears to disappear but there was family lore in the South Molton family that some members of the South Molton family moved to the Barnstaple area and the one tester who matches the other four has a family history back to Barnstaple and is the basis of my thought that the two lines continue to be represented to the current time. The only Pencombe in  Devon at this time appears to be at North or South Molton.

Point four:

The 1543 - 45 Devon Lay subsidy has entries for Pencombe pages 62, 63, 77, 86, 105; Pincombe page 61, Pinkham page 94. This results in South Molton Parish (1544): John Pyncome 13, Christopher Pyncombe 10; North Molton Parish (1545): Alice Pencombe 5 (one notes this does not say widow), William Pencombe 6, John Pencombe 4; (1544) William Pyncum 13; Nymett Regis (Kings Nympton Parish (1545) Richard Pencombe 1; Estbuclond Parish (East Buckland (1544) Thomas Pencomb 9; Tawstock Parish (1544) Philip Pynkeham 8 (who is he?); Bedeford Parish (Bideford 1544) Richard Pencombe 5. 

Summing up: I have looked at all this data a number of times but it was back in my much earlier days into genealogy. First things I noticed was the Snow family here and there although said to be Anstey for Emot Snow the wife of Thomas Pencombe (there was actually one at Bishops Nympton). I found my eyes wandering over the areas around North Devon and contemplated whether everything made it into the index since this was prepared totally by hand but knowing the ancestors they tended towards accuracy but having discovered the page difference in 1332 for John de Pencomb' I feel I should spend perhaps another week looking at all of this data. 

Point five:

The Devon Muster 1569 was also very interesting: Pincombe pages 147, 162, 164, 165: East Buckland William Pyncomb G7, William Pyncombe pikeman; North Molton John Pincomb (presenter sworn); South Molton Parish with the Towne Christopher Pincomb G7, John Pincomb G6, John Pincombe G7, John Pincombe pikeman. Pinkham page 141 Yarnscombe: Richard Penkham pikeman;  A little more time on this database is needed as well.  (Yarnscombe is near Barnstaple). 

The one week revealed a few weaknesses in my work although I did review the Early Chancery Proceedings going backwards from 1486 and then forwards from 1486 but did not locate anything on the Pencombe (or any derivative spelling) in these records. 

Point six: 

The Purcome family on the 1543-45 Devon Lay subsidy I have eliminated in the past at Blackawton Parish. I could revisit that although I do not think they are the same family as they are in Exeter which is too far away for either of the two de Pencombe members found in the 1300s I still think.

Conclusion on the one week for me:

As suggested by the AI, the use of Pyncombe of Northmolton may have hinted at prior knowledge of Pyncombe elsewhere in Devon. It was not possible to link the two records from the 1300s with the family in the late 1400s. It was not that unusual for people to pick a place name as their surname. I think I will spend another week sorting and entering in all the information for the first three generations at North Molton. The line at South Molton was considered to have died out in the male line so will have to look at that carefully to see if indeed this line coming down into the 2000s is totally descendant of Thomas Pencombe son of John Pencombe. All testers match so one must be careful to consider all the written thoughts on the family at South Molton having moved there from North Molton in the early 1500s. 

Time for a bit of exercise. Breakfast finished and solitaire puzzles complete.  

 Put my points into my chat window with the Co-pilot and we agree. Another week still trying to locate information on Pencombe in Herefordshire or Devon. The importance of the la Zouche family in all of this is the location of Northmolton being in common to both at this moment in time and that the arrival was simultaneously occurring at the same time - the reason unknown and without reading into the la Zouche family papers I think that I would not find it. A number of young men were executed after the Battle of Bosworth Field and it is highly likely that anything that saved a youth in a family was probably kept pretty tight in the family. Releasing it in this way over one hundred and thirty four years later was likely considered to be history and the English are sticklers for history having grown up with two English born and raised grandparents and coming from families dating back hundreds of years and perhaps thousands. The English do appreciate their history and have been very speedy at saving it electronically for the generations ahead to enjoy. The lessons of the Second World War were well learned. Moving ahead in some terms with actually creating the three generations coming down from John Pencombe and possibly his wife Alice. The lack of the word widow in the record is troubling but at no point do we see a daughter in that second generation. The  name Alice was a popular one within the family in those generations along with Johane. 

I must continue to hunt out the mystery of the South Molton Pencombe family. Christopher and his son John disappear. John and his son John continue the line and it is well known and published. The wealth of that family became the Pyncombe Trust and has been very well utilized through the centuries in the village concerned. I have a Philip Pynkeham at Tawstock that is very interesting. 

Robert Pincombe (my 3x great grandfather and his wife Elizabeth Rowcliffe Pincombe) had eight children and the daughter was named Elizabeth; the seven sons were named (birth order) Robert, John, William, Thomas, George, Richard and Philip. Interesting that but Elizabeth's father's forename was Philip and her brothers' forenames were Philip, George and William so not referring back in time perhaps very far. The interesting part of all of this was I discovered Rowcliffe cousins in Huron County, Ontario. 

Must check on lunch.  

 

 

 

Decisions

March for my studies became a throw away month whilst I contemplated the path for each of the two books. 

Pencombe became the easiest to resolve as I realized that the data that existed did not lend to the thought that Philip Pynkeham at Tawstock was related to the Pencombe family at North Molton. He is either related to an earlier Pencombe family that came to Devon from Herefordshire (not necessarily the same family which would be anticipated given the difference in y-DNA results) or is actually a member of the Tykenham family closeby but in the same hundred in this time frame. Decision made to not include Philip in the book. I will in each decade make decisions that lend themselves to the accumulated data. 

Blake ended up creating new chapters to look at Richard le Blak in Berkshire on the Pipe Rolls of 1301 and his family as it moved out of Berkshire and into Wiltshire and Hampshire. The Blake family of Calne does appear to be descendant of this Richard le  Blak and was he the Richard who received license to set up a market in England in 1274 (Calendar of Patent Rolls). This is not yet proven but I continue to look at the available data (available to me). I have added a chapter of the Le Blak family of Calne, I have also added a chapter which looks at two major Blake family documents - Blake Pedigree Chart of 1690 requisitioned by Daniel Blake of London, England with additions into the mid to latter part of the 1700s and the Blake Family Chart (additions up to the early 1920s) possibly created by Edward James Blake of Crewkerne, Somerset. This month of review was definitely worth while for the Blake family book. 

There is snow on the ground here but not a lot. Skiing may not happen! But the moisture is good for sure. 

Tea time and Latin next. 

I must continue pulling out the sets of data that I have collected for this family in the North Molton area

Memories

I did watch Prime Minister Brian Mulroney's State Funeral yesterday. It was perfect I think; so very meaningful and perhaps the most beautiful his granddaughter's song of love for her beloved grandfather. It is the hardest thing in the world I think for children to give up a parent and for grandchildren to let go of a grandparent. It wrenches the soul and tears it apart just for a little while until the healing starts. I must admit as I watched the funeral I remember that my husband would have preferred having all of his friends about him for a funeral but he did die during COVID but we actually did not have a funeral until over a year later. But I just couldn't budge myself from that very private place I had moved to and as it turned out we all wanted it to be a very private goodbye with all of us there - the priest, organist, children (including our son in law), grandchildren and myself. The organist was simply wonderful picking everything himself except I did ask for the 23rd Psalm which we all sang. The memory did come back to me as I watched and I have said to my children that when we finally pick a burial spot at Beechwood where he wanted to be buried they can do whatever they want when I pass away. A joint service if that is something they want as it was what he wanted for sure. But if they decide private is what they want then they have my blessing for that as well. Whatever suits them; to me funerals are for the living to commemorate those who died but in a way that reflects the living family. The State Funeral was perfect for Brian Mulroney; when the history books are written (and already he is in the history books) he will be one of Canada's best Prime Ministers. Could he have done more for his country; I am sure he would have said yes but he did so very much to bring us right out of being mentally attached to the British Isles (although I am very much in favour of our King and Royal Family and hope that that is also a forever part of Canada) to standing up on our own two feet as he negotiated NAFTA and tied us economically forever to our great neighbour to the south. As Canada grows and at 40 Million plus we are growing we may one day be a much much larger neighbour than we are now and I am sure that linking ourselves together will prove to be the best forward plan there could have been. Thank you Brian Mulroney. I also feel the same way about the GST; it has done Canada a lot of good; taken the strain out of running government as no need for supply bills constantly getting debated at the last minute. The government has money to fund it. Thank you Brian Mulroney for that and for Nunavut and fighting acid rain and so much more.

A lovely walk again yesterday, two days in a row. I do enjoy a good walk around the block. I did not accomplish very much on Pencombe yesterday. My mind didn't seem to settle to it. I am still perplexed about Philip Pynkeham. Who is he? Is he a Tynkeham? Why is he at Tawstock? I likely do need to do a little more searching to see if I can discover anything more. Of course he was born before the Parish Registers were kept by the Parish Priests for all the inhabitants of the parish so no help there.  I may though, check the 1524-27 Lay Subsidy for the parishes where the Tynkeham/Tinkham family lived. Perhaps then I will feel satisfied leaving him out. It does seem like I should do that. 

We were meant to have snow but the snow fell on Montreal complicating the travel from St Patrick to Notre Dame for the funeral but as usual our honour guards did a perfect job in spite of the weather. The 19 gun salute rang through the cold air and Canada said goodbye to Brian Mulroney while his family took him for a private time and burial. Brian Mulroney was proud, I am sure, of his family standing through all those hours welcoming all the people who came to say goodbye. They did it so very well.

Minus eight degrees celsius, clear and will be sunny. Another crisp winter day with no snow. We are in drought for sure and will be a rough summer perhaps of forest fires. Time will tell. Hopefully everyone will be especially careful to keep them to a minimum. 

Sunday, Palm Sunday, and Church on You Tube. I am looking forward to being at the Cathedral once again. It has been a thoughtful Lent and the Lenten Readings have been most thought provoking particularly as they have very much brought my thoughts to Israel and Gaza. A solution is there but Hamas destroys any solution because they are evil thinking only of themselves and their greed and their hatred for the Jewish people. They desire to commit genocide against the Jewish people and it really must end; they must be sent somewhere where they cannot hurt the Palestinians or the Jews. 

Prayers for the people of Russia, those killed in the attack by ISIS and those injured and fighting for their lives in the hospitals. May God be merciful and help them through this tragic time. 

God bless the world. 

Teatime and Latin. It is a day of rest for my eyes.

Snow 5 cm is predicted

There is a 5 cm snowfall predicted for the end of the week. That would be a nice end to winter for sure. It has been a strange winter here. Climate Change is having an incredible effect on Canada with out polar regions being a large part of our country. Perhaps one more day of skiing is in the works.

Today is a Pencombe day and I have a few more thoughts on Philip Pynkeham at Tawstock that I will check out. I do not want to just wantonly discard him from the book but do need to have more information to encourage me to put him in. The forename is definitely unusual to the William, John and Thomas forenames that I am finding generally in the 1300s/1400s for the Pencombe family of Herefordshire. 

Perhaps some searching of the archives to continue today with Pencombe. Perhaps getting back to actually writing the book as I have only been blogging my abstract thoughts as they come to me. 

Verified my appointment with the surgeon for cataract surgery - preliminary examination for surgery in late May hopefully. Actually looking forward to this being done and getting back to my books after a couple of months off perhaps. Time will tell. I have no idea. I have never really known anyone who had cataract surgery other than my parents (and my sister but she too is far away and did not really go into details and I like to just follow the flow for such things) and I was here and they were 700 kilometres away during all of that so no really close information.  But it is good to be enthusiastic likely. I have had no actual surgery in my life; just lucky likely and only a couple of procedures other than the delivery of two children. But I really do think people should get their surgeries sooner rather than later if they need them. So all verified and on to the appointment. My eyes are actually my only weak item but I have lived with them for 78.5 years and glasses for 77+ years. Apparently I did not walk free until glasses were put on me when I was just eighteen months. I hung on the furniture, people, the dog whatever to get around before then apparently. I have no idea why glasses suddenly made my world visible/steady enough for me to get up and walk across a room unaided. But I do remember having dizzy spells as a young child sometimes when my lenses were changed and perhaps that was it. But I made up for it as once mobile I had to be followed (the dog was good at that and bringing me back home) as I was on the move. We were inseparable the dog and I apparently and the dog seemed to know I was not like my three older siblings none of whom wore glasses as children because he would hold on to my clothes to take me home again my grandmother said. I have no memory of the dog as he was put down when I was around three years of age. I think he was about about ten years old - a large border collie. I do not remember the touch of his fur even. Seems strange really when he was so much part of my life until I was nearly three. 

On to the Archives and I shall record anything interesting but also have a look at what I have written thus far in this chapter on the de Pencombe family of Herefordshire.  

Just a day of reading and exercise. Tomorrow Blake.

The 18th Prime Minister of Canada - Brian Mulroney

Rest in Peace Brian Mulroney you did your task very well and created a new Canada that still flourishes due to your foresight with the 7% GST (although I consider mistakenly taken to 5% by Prime Minister Harper) and NAFTA. Both enriched Canada by making anything possible in those years following their enactment.  I watched during the day while the coffin of our 18th Prime Minister was Laying in State here in Ottawa. He will be sadly missed by all of the current politicians of the day; he was a great Canadian with a reach down through the ages. I will watch his funeral on Saturday.

I must admit the demise of the NDP would suit me very well; I have never considered them to be an effective party but rather concentrating on one segment of the population only; the one that they think will vote them in. Folded back into the Liberal party where they belong they would continue giving that far left wing of the Liberal party a voice plus the percentage of our tax that goes to support democracy (i.e. the parties with enough seats in the house) would not be diced up quite so much. The idea of the individual tax payer having a box to check for their taxes to be directed at their discretion (or one could have a checkbox for the status quo) is an interesting idea that came to me yesterday as I considered the amendment to the bill first put forward by the mis-guided NDP member. Put more effort into getting the children out of Gaza and here where there is lots of food and no bombs and less into supporting the terrorists Hamas who live on hatred of the Jewish people. That the bill passed in the house is simply a matter of politics - the Block want to be there to vote for an independence movement (as they see it) as they see their own and has little to do with Gaza likely (breaking up Canada is their aim), the NDP serve no purpose as far as I can see but are simply Liberals with a different name and would save tax money being thinned out if they are the same party and the Green Party (although I am a great believer in greening Canada I think voting for this particular item was a poor choice - abstaining could express your horror at the state of Gaza better - it at least supports Israel's right to defend itself). So I am left with the Conservatives, which I am actually but their inability to leave the GST alone or at least put it back up to 7% or 10%, it is a wealth tax after all (lots of exempt items that are necessities), has put me into the Liberal camp where I do not really belong but they are getting the job done. The military is getting more hardware and support (but more is needed); we got through COVID relatively unscathed and our economy is moving along nicely. I have no objection to the Carbon Tax - we have to pay to green Canada and that is a fact (last year we had the worst air of any place in the world; the smoke was swirling around in our backyard here and all over the Ottawa Valley). Taxes are one of the great truths of life - death and taxes!

Cleaning day all accomplished and today will be a research day. Just debating on which one to work on today. I am still sorting Pencombe in my mind and concentrating on the descendants of the North Molton Pencombe family and leaving the Philip Pynkeham at Tawstock for another (although I know I will keep having a look here and there during the remainder of the throw-away month). Finding him on the 1524-7 (as well as the 1543-45 Lay Subsidies as a tax payer) as a wage earner was interesting. The individual on the line above him was not a relative and I can not see anything that helps me with who he is as he is likely at least 15-18 years of age in 1524 so born in the same time frame as the first generation's Pencombe children (but does not appear to belong to anyone at Tawstock (the forename Philip is somewhat unusual in this family although there was one in my 2x great grandfather John Pincombe's family; his youngest brother Philip but he had an uncle Philip and grandfather on his mother's side!)). Probably I should still consider alternative searches as this is my throw-away month to look at possibilities and work on the Blake family. Here I am looking at the Le Blac family of Rouen, Normandy and were they the ancestors of the Calne Blake family? Can I prove that the Richard (who actually belongs at the top of the Blake Family Chart (Blake Museum, Bridgwater) I do believe) Blague/Blaake was the same Richard who applied for a license to set up a market in England in 1274? I think continuing with my search through the Blake records would be a good step today.

Continuing the look at the Discovery Catalogue at the UK National Archives for the unfinished group of Blake beginning with John Blake.  Publication of The Harleian Society Volume LXXIX (1928). There are Blake entries namely John Blak, Rawlyn Blak, Richard Blak, Andrew Blake, Edmond Blake, Edmund Blake (6 entries), John Blake (4 entries), Simon Blake (2 entries), Thomas Blake (4 entries), Walter Blake, William Blake (3 entries). 

Name                      Page              Suit#

John Blake           16                 10

John Blake           20               103 

John Blake         204               490

John Blake         295              353

Simon Blake      144              240

Simon Blake      238              174

Thomas Blake   134              329

Thomas Blake   285               74

Thomas Blake   293             307

Thomas Blake   390               13

Walter Blake     154             505

 William Blake   30             131

William Blake    30             148

William Blake  166              88

I have completed the first group of Blake way back last week; my the time passes quickly. I shall continue that process looking up these items on the Discovery Catalogue at Kew today (I shall continue adding to this post all day). 

Teatime and Latin first. 

 John Blake (77 items - 11 relevant)

1.  C136/83/5 and it is the Inquisition Postmortem for John Blake I (MP for Calne). This would be an interesting document and I may yet order it.

2. Grant (at Calne) by Geoffrey Symple of Wynterbourne Whitcherch (Dorset) to John Blake of Quemerford, of an acre of land in the field called Westytone. 1386 Reference: 1720/199

3. 1395; John Blake witnesses a document (Whetham (a parish in Calne), Wiltshire, lease). Reference: 1720/213

4. Eaaster, 1395. Attorney: By John Blake of Quemerford to Robert Welyknowe to deliver seisin to Rober Saleman and his co-feoffees of pasture of his manor of Shawe and other lands there. Reference: DD/WHb/2026.

5. 1393. John Blake witnessed a Grant (at Wodelond) by  .... Reference: 1720/210

6. 1390. Quitclaim (at Calne), witnessed by John Blake Reference 1720/206

7. 1393. Quitclaim (at Calne), witnessed by John Blake. Reference 1720/207

8. 1384. Grant (at Whetham), witnessed by John Blake. Reference: 1720/193

9. 1387. Grant (at le Northehethe), witnessed by John Blake. Reference: 1720/202

10. 1460 Aug 18. John Blake (Nether Wallop), Robert Blake (Calne), Alexander Blake (Calne), sued by a London merchant. Reference C241/243/39

11. 1463; lease, widow of Robert Blake (Calne), Avice Blake, and John Blake, Robert Blake her sons, for 13 years to Nicholas Redeman of a barn and pasture at Sohawe. Reference DD/WHb/2144.

Simon Blake  - 14 records - 13 Norfolk, 1 Devon

Thomas Blake - 21 records - 1 Kent, 1 Suffolk, most Norfolk, some London

Walter Blake - 1 record - East Anglia

William Blake -  20 Records - Norfolk, Northamptonshire, Sheffield,

1. early 1400s. Mortgage of tenement in Salisbury, Wiltshire. William Blake, plaintiff (might be interesting since the grandfather of Robert (fulling mill at Quemerford) Blake was said to be a William Blake. Reference C 1/6/131 (must check and see if this is one that I imaged at Kew in 2013).

2. 1404-1426. Same as above. Reference C 1/6/148

3. 1489, Letter of Attorney - Wheddon in Cutcombe, Somerset which William Blake holds. Reference: 1782/M/T 21 (two entries)

The William Blake records could be interesting as it is the first that I have found for a William Blake in the right area. The John Blake records are expected in that John Blake I and John Blake II were both Members of Parliament. 

William being in Salisbury especially interesting because Whiteparish is just south of Salisbury and if  the unknown Blake (grandson of William, son of Henry) who moved from Whiteparish to Andover area (dying there in 1471) it could prove quite interesting. Although the third record itself is in Cutcombe, Somerset so curious mostly. Will consider ordering these three records if I do not already have them.

Looking at that particular item once again from the Blake Family Chart, Blake Museum. Bridgwater:

This unknown Blake is said to be the grand son of William Blake and Elizabeth (Power) Blake.

 I will look at this chart next Blake day and review the problems that exist when one looks at the wills for these individuals. They kindly left them! Interesting in a way that this chart was created for the Hampshire Blake Family. The actual chart doesn't use it. It doesn't help anyone with the Blake Pedigree Chart at Swindon - perhaps just throwing a little fat into the fire type of thing. It does use some of the material from the Blake Pedigree Chart though one does notice that. It would be interesting to discover the origin of the first generations  

Wiltshire Archaeological and Natural History Magazine - Volume 9

Nearly spring and the snow is all gone pretty much here. The ground looks dry instead of muddy like it usually is. Time will tell. A yellow sunrise in God's world in the east. What is God thinking as He looks at the world spread out in front of Him? He must have wept for Alexei Navalny - one of His children.  The people of Russia deserve so much more than they are getting - a war is always hardest on its people. Those at the top just live in luxury already greedy for more. The Palestinians here have not brought any children to Canada as far as I can see - they could be safe and well fed here and with very little difficulty since they are little and not a worry; They will not cause any problems for our 600,000 + Jewish people. I think the children is the saddest part; they did nothing to bring this on and it is usual to protect the children and I have a hard time understanding why they are not being protected by people who have all the luxuries of living in Canada. Protest marches are a waste of time - feed the children; bring them to safety.

Very busy working this last week as I spend this "throw-away" month looking at two possibilities - one that Richard le Blak was the founder of the Calne Blake family and two that the Pencombe family at North Molton was descendant of the Pencombe family in Pencombe, Herefordshire. Both have interesting possibilities but provable that is the question. I have looked and looked at the Blake Family Chart on the Blake Museum website (Bridgwater, Somerset) and finally I suddenly saw that perhaps Richard and Robert were interchanged at the top of the Chart and the "proof of life" details for Robert (who has a number of items in various records) did perhaps reveal that they are accidentally interchanged with Richard actually being the father of Robert. There were just too many generations between the two Roberts and not enough years. Perhaps I noted that before but I needed more data on Robert to really see it. With the Pencombe family, not finding a lot of new details but I am just getting into that. Still trying to link Philip Pynkeham at Tawstock but I think one needs to look at land documents to really sort him out. That is not going to happen in my study likely; time will tell.

The Wiltshire Archaeological and Natural History Magazine, Volume 9 (Pages 223-224) which was published in 1866 and is also available from Internet.Archive.org

 http://archive.org/details/wiltshirearchaeo09arch

There is an article in this particular magazine which discusses descent and arms of families and was produced from the notes of the Richmond Herald at the College of Arms about 1693 although he was not appointed Richmond Herald until 1721. The article Wiltshire Arms and Descents was written by Mr. Clarence Hopper and the author of the notes was Robert Dale ( he was perhaps an heraldic painter prior to his appointment is suggested ). The comment is made that the information was principally from the Visitations of 1620 time period.

His notes on the Blague/Blake/Blaake family

Dorsetshire, 27. Blague, alias Blaake, now Blake of Quemberford [Quemerford], Calne and Pynhills - 1st, arg. a chevron between 3 garbs, sab. (this is the usual arms associated with the Blake family). 2nd, arg. on a pile, az. 3 martlets, sil. both by this name. Crest on a chapeau, gu. turned up erm. a martlet, arg. Kent 83.

Blague of Lacock, a second branch from Quemberford. Kent 83

Blague of Hilcot, a third house from Calne. Kent 83

This fits in with the Visitation of 1565 which states that Roger Blake and Mary Baynard had three sons - Thomas at Pynnell, Robert at Lacock and John at Hilcott which matches the information found in the Wiltshire Arms and Descents article mentioned above.

I did review "Index of Persons Named in Early Chancery Proceedings 1385-1467" produced as The Publication of The Harleian Society Volume LXXIX (1928).There are Blake entries namely John Blak, Rawlyn Blak, Richard Blak, Andrew Blake, Edmond Blake, Edmund Blake (6 entries), John Blake (4 entries), Simon Blake (2 entries), Thomas Blake (4 entries), Walter Blake, William Blake (3 entries). 

Name                      Page              Suit#

John Blak                62                 243

Rawlyn Blak          176               345

Richard Blak          62                243

Andrew Blake         3                  69

Edmond Blake      238              174

Edmund Blake     134               319

Edmund Blake     134               325

Edmund Blake     144               240

Edmund Blake     158               606

Edmund Blake     221              164

Edmund Blake     239              204

John Blake           16                 10

John Blake           20               103 

John Blake         204               490

John Blake         295              353

Simon Blake      144              240

Simon Blake      238              174

Thomas Blake   134              329

Thomas Blake   285               74

Thomas Blake   293             307

Thomas Blake   390               13

Walter Blake     154             505

 William Blake   30             131

William Blake    30             148

William Blake  166              88

I will check for Wiltshire, Hampshire, Berkshire in Discovery Catalogue at the UK National Archives for all of these entries.

 John Blak - 13 records from 1300-1499 -  10 are mostly from Norfolk with one from Devon

1. 1400s. Ogbourne St Andrew, Wiltshire C 1/1495/32, grandson William Blake plaintiff. 

2. 1382. Document witnessed by John Blak (dealt with Calne area, Wiltshire).

3. 1489. Thornbury, Gloucestershire E 40/13329-13344. Joan wife of Thomas Pacche daughter and heir of John Blak. Interesting in that the Blake family of Calne is found in Gloucestershire after leaving Calne area.

Rawlyn Blak -  1 record from 1400-1499 - Leicestershire

Richard Blak - 1 record from 1400-1499 - Norfolk

Andrew Blake - 2 records from 1300-1499 - Kent, Sussex

Edmond Blake - 0 records from 1300-1499

Edmund Blake - 12 records from 1300-1499 - 10 Norfolk, 1 Essex, 1 Surrey

To be continued the next Blake day.

Calendar of Patent Rolls and my first task is to check for Robert le Blake and Robert Blake and this is between  1230 and 1452:

1357 21 Oct Westminster  (membrane 12)

Pardon in like terms to John Gosegh merchant of Salisbury on,

his outlawry in the county of Wilts for non-appearance to answer

touching a plea of Robert Blake, Thomas son of Walter de Hungerford

Edward Cokerel and Henry Flemyng,executors of the will of Henry

Russel, citizen of Salisbury, late executor of the will of John

Godhyne late burgess and merchant of Marlebergh that he render

to them 110 l

31 Edward III, volume 10, page 630

One mention only of Robert Blake and it involves a case in Salisbury and Marlebergh which is likely Marlborough and not too far from Calne and Devizes so an interesting find to have a Robert, adult since he is  the executor of a will (although there are exceptions but generally so), in 1357. Continuing proof of life for this Robert and since he is not named at all in the Chancery Proceedings commencing in 1385 he is likely deceased by then as his likely wife Joan and son John were involved in a land transaction in 1386 where Joan is named as a widow. The land mentioned is Shawe by Savernake. I did locate a Shaw in Wiltshire  which is Shaw cum Donnington and of all things it is not too distant from Speen which I mentioned as being another Blake location associated with the Andover Blake family (A genealogical Gazetteer of England, Frank Smith, Baltimore, 1987). It is also close enough to Marlborough which is east of Calne and Devizes. An interesting find perhaps. 

I will have a look for Richard la Blak or Richard Blake in the Calendar of Patent Rolls. The one in Rouen, Normandy,  in 1274 is known as that was his permission to set up a market in England. Any of the references have no connection to Wiltshire. 

So I think Robert le Blake is now verified and the wife of Robert was likely Joan and at least one son John. 

I am tempted though to suspect that Robert is a son of Richard le Blak located at Wargrave, Berkshire in 1301 on the Pipe Rolls of the Bishopric of Winchester. Richard Blague does not bring up any hits on the Discovery catalogue. Is it possible that Robert should come after Richard as his son although not mentioned on the Pipe Rolls at Wargrave but there is a John Blak at Wargrave (although he is not named as a son of Richard in that record). But Robert was not likely born until 1313 or shortly before that and he does name a son John. 

Jumping ahead to Robert Blake  of Quemberford and dates online are 1412-1474 for his lifespan. I was not successful on Wednesday with the middle members of the chart above namely Henry, William and Henry but whipping ahead might be helpful. So if we have a date for the first Robert let us say of 1313 to 1386 then this Robert is born 100 years later approximately. If we eliminate Richard from this line coming down then we are left with Henry, William and Henry. This would have Henry as a son of the first Robert (and I suspect he is born before 1313 so Henry born circa 1330s and a William born circa 1350s and a Henry born circa 1380s and that is likely a reasonable span of years for most generations  (actually short when I consider my own generations). But I am suggesting that Richard le Blak is the father of the first Robert and the two just need to be interchanged. 

Quemberford is rather interesting because a Robert Blake is said to have owned a fulling mill in Quemerford. Looking at the British History website (https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/wilts/vol17/pp17-27 ), and Blackland in particular there is a small map on this page which is rather interesting:

In the writeup about Blacklands the Manor and House both known as Blackland was held by Richard de Canville in 1194 and before that date was part of the King's large estate called Calne. At some point after 1086 the land was part of the Calstone estate and was granted away giving some prehistory to Richard de Canville holding the property in 1194. It then descended in the Canville line with a little bit of interesting history and was given or sold to Malmesbury abbey before 1262. It was then held until 1539 by the Abbey until it was dissolved and the manor then passed to the Crown. It then passed into several families until the late 1780s when it passed to the Maundrell family who apparently held property in Compton Bassett which was called Blake. Somewhat interesting but it does not appear that a Robert (le) Blake held Blacklands at any time. 

Continuing to look at British History Online under Calne:Economic History (originally published by Victoria County History, London, 2002) and Mills, Trade and Industry (Source: 'Calne: Economic history', in A History of the County of Wiltshire: Volume 17, Calne, (London, 2002) pp. 79-94. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/wilts/vol17/pp79-94 [accessed 12 March 2024])."A fulling mill in Quemberford belonged to Robert Blake (d. 1515 (Public Record Office, C142/31, no. 53)) and was on the estate at Quemerford conveyed by Robert's grandson Thomas Blake to Henry Chivers in 1560." 

 Robert Blake married to Avis (Wallop) (Malwyn) Blake's son John named his brother Robert (married to Margaret Englefield) as heir to the property which included the Fulling Mill at Quemberford in 1504. Their son Roger Blake married to Mary Baynard had a son Thomas who is noted above as inheriting the mill and selling it. This is seen clearly on the Blake Pedigree Chart held by the Swindon and Wiltshire Record Office.

The value of these two charts is quite huge even if over time one notes difficulties with the Chart but overall the parts of the chart that can be verified by records are a great addition to this Blake family. The intent of the Blake Family Chart at the Blake Museum Bridgwater is to illustrate the Blake Family in Somerset and it does it very well actually. I have blogged on it in the past. I did not see it but I am sure it is a treasure to do so especially if you descend from the Somerset Blake line. 

So today finding the Robert Blake record near Speen is most interesting and continues my thought that at some point in the far past (I suspect late 1200s early 1300s) the Calne Blake and the Andover Blake families were related on the female side and their friendship is still seen in the wills in the 1500s. Having so much material in one place whether you might not quite agree with all the entries is a great asset to the Blake family. 

But I  have still not actually proven that Richard Le Blak is the progenitor of the Calne Blake family but I think there are not a lot of choices looking at the Blake records in the 1200s/1300s. The 1274 permit to set up a market was a great opportunity for Richard le Blak in England but there is an effigy in the Rouen Cathedral in Normandy and it wasn't possible to determine exactly who this person was. Perhaps a look at the French records might be in order.