I have now completed all the Buller wills that were collected on our first trip to Kew. I did not find any answers to the question - Who is Christopher Buller with regard to his parentage? There are many unresearched lines in the Buller family and I now have a few good places to start working on that when the Buller day arrives in my research calendar. I would like to find Christopher in memory of my maternal grandmother as she used to talk about her family in England but she did not know the details beyond what I know and actually I was able to push back before her grandparents although she may have had that knowledge.
The Buller family is a quite fascinating one. They have played a huge role in the military history of the United Kingdom and I can only hope that one day someone will take on the Buller name as a one name study. This set of blogs will help them to get started plus I have other information. Would I ever take it on? That is a good question. Certainly not in the next ten years as I intend to devote a great deal of time to my Blake one name study and my Pincombe one name study. After that who knows.
The Hucks family at St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey interested me because of the middle name of Robert Hucks Buller, younger brother to my Henry Christopher Buller. He was a Cooper so perhaps was involved in a business way with Christopher Buller since they lived and worked in the same area of Bermondsey. Perhaps one day I will find a connection between the two families but at the moment that is quite unknown.
The earliest mention of the Buller family that I have seen thus far is in the Somerset Archives in the Bonvile family deeds etc. DD/HI/B/425 and involves a legal claim to wife's dower interest in property of her late husband, Alexander Buller, 1532. The Visitation takes the family back to Ralfe Buller who lived at Wood, Somerset.
There is a will for Alexander Buller at The National Archives which I did not acquire yet. I will purchase that one on the next Buller research day but in the meantime I found a transcription online in the Fulgham Family Database on World Connect: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bfulgham&id=I25202
From the National Archives website: Will of Alexander Buller, probated 5 Jun 1526 and reference PROB11/22/143.
Alexander Buller, Esq., of Wood, Diocese of Bath and Wells.
Will dated 1526, proved same year. (Porch 7.)
To be buried at Knoll ; my father-in-law John Horsey the elder ; my brother
John Horsey ; my wife Elizabeth ; John Buller my son and heir.
Will 7 Jan 1525 Wood, parish of St Gile of Knoll, Somerset ((1887-1890), Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, Hereinafter cited as SOM Wills.); Ref. 7 Porch. "Alexander Buller, esquire, of Wood, within the diocese of Bathe. My body to be buried within the parish churche of St Gile of Knoll, within the chauncell. To the cathedral church of Wells 6 shillings 8 pence. To the brotherhede of the Crosse in the church of Ilmystre 20 shillings. To Sir Henry Lymary, curate of Knoll 3 shillings 4 pence. To my olde servant Robert Butler 13 shillings 4 pence. To my olde servant Thomas Lumbard 13 shillings 4 pence. To my olde servant Peter Thorne 13 shillings 4 pence. To my servant John Hayes 6 shillings 8 pence. To my father in law John Horssey th' elder my sorell amlyng gelding, & to my brother John Horssey the choyse of any of my trotting geldings. Residue: Elizabeth my wife, and John Buller my son and heire (executors).
Overseers: J. Horssey elder & yonger. Witnesses: Sir Henry Lymary, curate, John Horssey the elder & yonger, Peter Thorne."
Inq. P.M. 18 Henry VIII, No. 17 (Vivan, Vis CON.).
Buried in 1526 St Gile of Knoll, Wood, Somerset (SOM Wills.).
Probate on 5 Jun 1526 Somerset.
From Somerset Genuki Knowle St Giles is a parish in the hundred of South Petherton, county Somerset, 3 miles SW of Ilminster.
From the Somerset Record Office Catalogue: A/CTP/2/1/92 - deeds relating to the manor of Knowle (St. Giles) dated 1485-1507 may have some information on Wood.
As I continued to delve into early Buller records I found on the British History online site: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=117094
For the Manor of Knowle:
In 1303 Hugh de Beauchamp and Ralph of Stocklinch held lands in South Illeigh and Knowle under Matthew de Esse and Humphrey de Kail. (fn. 29) This indicates an earlier subinfeudation of Knowle with Chaffcombe manor by Alan de Furneaux or Geoffrey his son to Oliver Avenel (d. c. 1226), and a subsequent descent with the halves of Chaffcombe manor through Avenel's daughters. The estate was subdivided, the Beauchamp half ultimately becoming the manor of KNOWLE ST. GILES, and the Stocklinch half comprising the farm or manor and mills of Illeigh. By 1386 two thirds of the Beauchamp lands in Knowle had been granted to John Dillington, probably in right of Elizabeth his wife, for life together with the reversion of the remaining third on Nicholas Buller's death. Thereafter the lands were to pass to Thomas and Joan Buller and their descendants. (fn. 30) When James Goodwin purchased John (VI) Buller's moiety of Chaffcombe manor in 1612 he was also offered Knowle manor for £800, but refused it. (fn. 31) In the same year Buller sold Knowle to William Powell, archdeacon of Bath (d. 1614), (fn. 32) who was succeeded by his son Samuel (I) Powell (d. 1656–7). (fn. 33) The manor then passed by successive sons to Marmaduke (d. 1682), Samuel (II) (d. 1722), Samuel (III) (d. 1738), and Samuel (IV) (d. 1739). (fn. 34) Sarah Powell (d. 1783), mother of the last, executed leases in Knowle until her second son Henry (d. 1769) came of age, and on his death she and her daughter Mary acted as joint lords. (fn. 35) Mary Powell (d. 1787) succeeded her mother and, on her death, the manor passed to her cousin the Revd. Thomas Alford (d. 1805) of Ashill, grandson of Samuel (III) Powell's sister Frances. (fn. 36) Alford agreed to sell the estate to Lord Poulett in 1797, although the sale was completed by Alford's widow Sarah, and son Edward in 1811. (fn. 37) Thereafter the manor descended through successive Earls Poulett, the lordship being omitted from the sale of the estate in 1912. (fn. 38) William John Norton was described as lord between 1927 and 1931, (fn. 39) but no subsequent reference to the manor has been traced, nor any mention of a manorhouse.
The first mention of Buller now is for Nicholas Buller in 1386 and it is that at his death there was a reversion showing that the "Stocklinch" half of the property in Knowle was involved in the name of his widow Elizabeth. The lands passed then to Thomas and Joan Buller and their descendants (Is Thomas the son of Nicholas and Elizabeth?). Is Ralfe a son of Thomas and Joan? No date is given for Thomas and Joan. The next date for a Buller on the British History Online site is John (VI) Buller's moiety of Chaffcombe manor in 1612 where the Knowle portion was also offered for sale but refused by that buyer (James Goodwin). However William Powell, archdeacon of Bath bought it in 1612 and as shown above it remained in the Powell family for a number of generations. This John (VI) is perhaps the John Buller married to Elizabeth Strangwais since he inherited property from his father John Buller of Lillesdon who died 12 Jan 1592 (married to Elizabeth Rogers).
Looking at the Visitation which begins with Ralfe Buller of Wood, Esquire and then passes down through seven generations to Alexander who died in 1526 is it possible to develop a possible timeline of these generations backwards? Alexander's son John was 24 or more at his father's death thus making Alexander about 45 or more in 1526 and giving him a possible date of birth of 1480 or earlier. His father was John Buller of Lillesdon married to Alice Sidman and this John's possible date of birth could be 1460 or earlier. Continuing in this line of though the father of this John Buller was John of Lillesdon married to Thomasine Orchard thus putting his possible date of birth at 1440 or earlier. The father of this John was John Buller married to Alice Beauchamp thus giving a date of birth of 1420 or earlier. This John's father was also John and married to (unknown) Gourney and with a possible birth date of 1400. Again the father of this John was John Buller married to Ann Staly so a possible birth date of 1380. The next generation back and the father of this John was Ralfe so a possible birth date of 1360 or earlier. The date known from the records for Nicholas Buller was 1386 and this was close to his death date likely. Nicholas' property passed to Thomas Buller and Joan his wife. If Thomas was the father of Ralfe that he would have had to be born around 1340 or earlier and his father Nicholas would have then been born around 1320. Is this reasonable? That would have made Nicholas around 66 or younger at his death on or before 1386.
Who then was Nicholas Buller and interestingly enough I wonder how he was excluded from the Visitation. What was there about Ralfe that made him stand out in the family remembrance when the Visitation was compiled?
Further down in the same article is a discussion of the capital messuage and farm of Wood:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=117094
The capital messuage and farm of WOOD, later WOODHOUSE, was first mentioned in the early 13th century, when John of Wood, of Knowle, held lands in Chaffcombe, (fn. 49) and Andrew of Wood held a virgate of land at Knowle in 1235. (fn. 50) John Buller (d. 1485) held Wood in fee under Knowle manor in 1444 and his family claimed to have held and occupied it from a much earlier date. (fn. 51) Thereafter it descended with the Buller half of Chaffcombe. Alexander Buller (d. 1526) occupied the farm under Lord Daubeney, probably as lord of the hundred, and when the Bullers moved to Lillesdon they leased Wood to George Poulett in 1573. (fn. 52) There followed successive assignments of this lease to occupiers: to John Andrews alias Fry in 1582, to Amias Preston in 1590, and to Simon Courte in 1600. (fn. 53) John (VI) Buller bought the lease from Courte in 1604 and sold it with his half of Chaffcombe to James Goodwin and others in 1612, with which it passed to John Poulett, later Lord Poulett, in 1613. (fn. 54) The farm continued in the Poulett family, being occupied by John Bluet in 1701, until its sale in 1913 to J. W. Davison. (fn. 55) In 1920 he sold it to Holliday Hartley, and Hartley conveyed it in 1924 to Mr. J. G. Vincent, the owner and occupier in 1973. (fn. 56)
This record also mentions a John Buller (died 1485) who held Wood in fee under Knowle manor in 1444. Looking at my earlier thought on charting the family back there is a John Buller in this time frame who was the ancestor of Alexander Buller. No mention of Ralfe and I must admit to being curious why this is the person remembered rather than Nicholas Buller. Are they related?
The Buller family though in my mind has now been pushed back another two generations from the Visitation. Is it a singleton family? Are all the Buller families in England theoretically sharing the same ancestor? Is Nicholas the oldest ancestor of this family?When was the Buller surname first used. The 1386 reversion is now the earliest record that I have for the Buller family with that spelling.
The Calendar of the Close Rolls does have two entries for le Bulur - is this an earlier spelling of the name Buller? This publication found online at archive.org forms part of a series of Calendars of the Close Rolls from the reign of Edward I to that of Edward IV.
An earlier record mentioned was that of Thomas le Bulur dated 1203 and he was a witness in the Assize Court Rolls of Staffordshire. However, I have not yet verifed this information found on a commercial website. Was le Bulur the original spelling for the surname Buller?
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Thursday, June 2, 2011
Bénoit dit Vaillancourt Family
Marie Josephte Bénoit dit Vaillancourt married Joseph Louis Matté 5 Feb 1839 at St Jérome and Marie Josephte's parents were identified as Joseph Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Josephte Charette who were themselves married 25 Nov 1811 at St Eustache (Deux Montagnes).
M Joseph Vaillancourt et Josephte Chauret
Le vingt cinq novembre mil huit cent onze aprèes la publication
de trois bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes savait ____
les trois __________dimanches consecutifs vingt unieme, la vingt
deux ____ et vingt trois ____ dimanches _____ entre joseph
vaillancour fils majeur de barthelemi vaillancourt et de marie
louise label ses pere et mere cultivateur en cette paroisse d'une part
et marie josephe chauret fille de charles chauret et de defunté
marguerite roi ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'
étant de ____ aucun empechemenmt au dit mariage, nous soussigné
curé de cette paroisse leurs avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale au la
[to be continued but somewhat difficult to read]
Finding this marriage clarifies the parents of Joseph Vaillancourt and that he is descended from the second marriage of Bartelemi Vaillancourt, the present family is also descended from the first marriage of Bartelemi. Both of these marriages are in Tanguay with Barthélemi Vaillancour marrying first Marie Madeleine Bouchard 27 Jan 1766 at Kamouraska and second he married Marie Louise Labelle 3 Jul 1781 at Terrebonne. The parents of Barthélemi Vaillancourt are Joseph Vaillancourt and Thérèse Martin who were themselves married 7 Jan 1733 at Islet. This Joseph was the son of Robert Vaillancour and his first wife Geneviève Destroismaisons and they were married 28 Sep 1704 at St Thomas. Robert was the son of Robert Vaillancour and Françoise Gobeil who were married in 1668 at Chateau Richer. Robert was the emigrant ancestor and so Generation 1.
Robert Vaillancour married to Geneviève Destroismaisons is Generation 2.
Joseph Vaillancour married to Thérèse Martin is Generation 3.
Barthélemy Vaillancourt married to first Marie Madeleine Bouchard and second to Marie Louise Labelle is Generation 4.
Alexis Vaillancour married to Agathe Langlois dite Traversis 14 Jan 1793 at St Eustache (son of Barthélemy and Marie Madeleine Bouchard) is Generation 5.
Joseph Vaillancourt (son of Barthélemy Vaillancour and Marie Louise Labelle) married to Josephte Chauret is Generation 5.
Marie Josephte Bénoit dit Vaillancourt (daughter of Joseph Vaillancourt and Marie Louise Labelle) married to
Joseph Louis Matté is Generation 6.
Alexis Benoit dit Vaillancourt (son of Alexis Vaillancour and Agathe Langlois dite Traversis) married to Charlotte Beauchamp is Generation 6.
Josette Benoit dit Vaillancourt married to Louis Piché 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique is Generation 7.
The next research day will be spent collecting records.
M Joseph Vaillancourt et Josephte Chauret
Le vingt cinq novembre mil huit cent onze aprèes la publication
de trois bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes savait ____
les trois __________dimanches consecutifs vingt unieme, la vingt
deux ____ et vingt trois ____ dimanches _____ entre joseph
vaillancour fils majeur de barthelemi vaillancourt et de marie
louise label ses pere et mere cultivateur en cette paroisse d'une part
et marie josephe chauret fille de charles chauret et de defunté
marguerite roi ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'
étant de ____ aucun empechemenmt au dit mariage, nous soussigné
curé de cette paroisse leurs avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale au la
[to be continued but somewhat difficult to read]
Finding this marriage clarifies the parents of Joseph Vaillancourt and that he is descended from the second marriage of Bartelemi Vaillancourt, the present family is also descended from the first marriage of Bartelemi. Both of these marriages are in Tanguay with Barthélemi Vaillancour marrying first Marie Madeleine Bouchard 27 Jan 1766 at Kamouraska and second he married Marie Louise Labelle 3 Jul 1781 at Terrebonne. The parents of Barthélemi Vaillancourt are Joseph Vaillancourt and Thérèse Martin who were themselves married 7 Jan 1733 at Islet. This Joseph was the son of Robert Vaillancour and his first wife Geneviève Destroismaisons and they were married 28 Sep 1704 at St Thomas. Robert was the son of Robert Vaillancour and Françoise Gobeil who were married in 1668 at Chateau Richer. Robert was the emigrant ancestor and so Generation 1.
Robert Vaillancour married to Geneviève Destroismaisons is Generation 2.
Joseph Vaillancour married to Thérèse Martin is Generation 3.
Barthélemy Vaillancourt married to first Marie Madeleine Bouchard and second to Marie Louise Labelle is Generation 4.
Alexis Vaillancour married to Agathe Langlois dite Traversis 14 Jan 1793 at St Eustache (son of Barthélemy and Marie Madeleine Bouchard) is Generation 5.
Joseph Vaillancourt (son of Barthélemy Vaillancour and Marie Louise Labelle) married to Josephte Chauret is Generation 5.
Marie Josephte Bénoit dit Vaillancourt (daughter of Joseph Vaillancourt and Marie Louise Labelle) married to
Joseph Louis Matté is Generation 6.
Alexis Benoit dit Vaillancourt (son of Alexis Vaillancour and Agathe Langlois dite Traversis) married to Charlotte Beauchamp is Generation 6.
Josette Benoit dit Vaillancourt married to Louis Piché 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique is Generation 7.
The next research day will be spent collecting records.
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
The Renaud family
Rosalie Renaud married Joseph Dumoulin 30 Jan 1882 at St Philippe d'Argenteuil. Rosalie by the census of 1911 was born 2 Jul 1864. In 1901 her father Antoine and mother Emelie were living on the Québec side of Ottawa township. I shall look for the 1871 and 1881 census to see if I can find Rosalie with her family since I have not yet found her baptism just to confirm although the marriage registration does give Antoine Renaud and Emélie Piché as her parents. No luck and I checked both Ancestry and the LDS website.
Continuing back the marriage of Antoine Renaud and Emélie Piché was celebrated 5 May 1862 at Grenville. This was a difficult one as the priest has written Antoine Arnaud et Emilie Piché.
Le cinq mai mil huit cent soixante deux aprè la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite au prone de nos _____ paroissiales
entre Antoine Arnaud de cette paroisse fils mineur de Joseph
Arnaud et de Elmire Chartrand de cette paroisse d'une part; et
Emilie Piché ausi de cette paroisse fille mineure du Louis Piché
et de Josette Benoit dite Vallancourt, de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous ______ du cette
paroisse du consentement du père et de la mère ________ Antoine Arnaud et
Emilie Piché avons reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et ____
____ donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis Piché
père de la mariée et Louis Tailer qui _____
ont declaré ni savoir peut signer.
T S Mancess, etc.
I do have Antoine on the census in Grenville with his parents Joseph and Elmire in 1861 and 1851 so feel satisfied that this is the correct marriage although the priest has written his name as Arnaud.
The marriage of Joseph Renaud and Elmire Chartrand was celebrated 11 Oct 1836 at Grenville.
Le onze octobre mil huit cent trente six après la publi
cation de trois bans de mariage faites aux prones
de la messe paroissiale de la Petite Nation pareille
publication ayant été faite en la paroisse de Ste
Anne des Plaines, comme il nous est apparu par
certificat de Messier Poirier curé du lieu entre
Joseph Renaud domicilié a Grenville fils mineur
de Louis Renaud et de Francoise Charbonneau
de la paroisse de Ste Anne des Plaines d'une part
et de Elmire Chartrand aussi domiciliées a Gren
ville, fille mineure de Joseph Chartrand et de
Marie Paquet de Grenville d'autre part n'ayant
découvert aucun empechement au dit mariage nous
curé soussigné de la Petit Nation avons reçu le
mutuel consentement des parties et leur avons don
né la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis
Renaud et Joseph Chartrand pères des époux
de Felix Charbonneau et Joseph Renaud parents
et amis des époux qui, tous ainsi que les époux
ont déclaré ne savoir signer.
Peh Brunet Ptre
Again the match going back fits with the census details and the parents of Joseph Renaud are Louis Renaud and Françoise Charbonneau. The marriage of Joseph and Françoise took place 13 Jul 1807 at Ste Anne des Plaines (the marriage lines of their son located this couple).
Le treize juillet mil huit cent sept après la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite _______ nos messes paroiss
ales le trois dernier dimances consecutif entre Louis
Renault fils majeur de Jean Baptiste Renault et de
défunc Marguerite Maillé ses père et mère cultivateur
en cette paroisse d'une part et Françoise Charboneau fille
mineure de Jerome Charbonneau et du défuncte Charlotte
Martel le père et mère cultivateur en cette paroisse d'autre
part, n s'étant découvert aucun empechement au dit
mariage, nous soussignécuré de cette paroisse avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale ___la ____
___
___ et en présence de
jean baptiste renault père, jean baptiste _____et
joseph renault ____ l'époux et de jerome charbonneau
père et joseph charbonneau frère de l'épouse ____
_____ ont déclaré ne savoir signer
______
____Ptre
Giving us the parents of Louis Renaud/Renault as Jean Baptiste Renault and Marguerite Maillé/Maillet who were themselves married 25 Aug 1768 at Rivière des Prairies. This marriage is not in the Renault family line on Tanguay but the scan of the marriage lines has been found. I will transcribe this one another day but Louis is the son of Joseph Renault and Catherine Beauchamp and their marriage was celebrated 2 Apr 1738 at Lachenaye. This marriage is in Tanguay with the father of Joseph being Michel Renault and his mother Marie Renée Réaume and their marriage was celebrated 25 Nov 1698 at Charlesbourg. Tanguay chooses one spelling and stays with that and in this case he chose to use Renaud.
Michel Renault's father is listed as Mathurin Renault and his mother as Marie Pelletier and they married 7 Oct 1669 at Québec.
Mathurin Renault was the emigrant ancestor having been born in France and he is Generation 1.
Michel Renault married to Marie Renée Réaume is Generation 2.
Joseph Renault married to Catherine Beauchamp is Generation 3.
Jean Baptiste Renault married to Marguerite Maillé is Generation 4.
Louis Renaud married to Françoise Charbonneau is Generation 5.
Joseph Renaud married to Elmire Chartrand is Generation 6.
Antoine Renaud married to Emélie Piché is Generation 7.
Rosalie Renaud married to Joseph Dumoulin is Generation 8.
My next research day I will work on more transcriptions of the CMBs, improving the present transcriptions and collecting more of the CMBs for this family line as well as the census and any other records.
Continuing back the marriage of Antoine Renaud and Emélie Piché was celebrated 5 May 1862 at Grenville. This was a difficult one as the priest has written Antoine Arnaud et Emilie Piché.
Le cinq mai mil huit cent soixante deux aprè la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite au prone de nos _____ paroissiales
entre Antoine Arnaud de cette paroisse fils mineur de Joseph
Arnaud et de Elmire Chartrand de cette paroisse d'une part; et
Emilie Piché ausi de cette paroisse fille mineure du Louis Piché
et de Josette Benoit dite Vallancourt, de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous ______ du cette
paroisse du consentement du père et de la mère ________ Antoine Arnaud et
Emilie Piché avons reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et ____
____ donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis Piché
père de la mariée et Louis Tailer qui _____
ont declaré ni savoir peut signer.
T S Mancess, etc.
I do have Antoine on the census in Grenville with his parents Joseph and Elmire in 1861 and 1851 so feel satisfied that this is the correct marriage although the priest has written his name as Arnaud.
The marriage of Joseph Renaud and Elmire Chartrand was celebrated 11 Oct 1836 at Grenville.
Le onze octobre mil huit cent trente six après la publi
cation de trois bans de mariage faites aux prones
de la messe paroissiale de la Petite Nation pareille
publication ayant été faite en la paroisse de Ste
Anne des Plaines, comme il nous est apparu par
certificat de Messier Poirier curé du lieu entre
Joseph Renaud domicilié a Grenville fils mineur
de Louis Renaud et de Francoise Charbonneau
de la paroisse de Ste Anne des Plaines d'une part
et de Elmire Chartrand aussi domiciliées a Gren
ville, fille mineure de Joseph Chartrand et de
Marie Paquet de Grenville d'autre part n'ayant
découvert aucun empechement au dit mariage nous
curé soussigné de la Petit Nation avons reçu le
mutuel consentement des parties et leur avons don
né la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Louis
Renaud et Joseph Chartrand pères des époux
de Felix Charbonneau et Joseph Renaud parents
et amis des époux qui, tous ainsi que les époux
ont déclaré ne savoir signer.
Peh Brunet Ptre
Again the match going back fits with the census details and the parents of Joseph Renaud are Louis Renaud and Françoise Charbonneau. The marriage of Joseph and Françoise took place 13 Jul 1807 at Ste Anne des Plaines (the marriage lines of their son located this couple).
Le treize juillet mil huit cent sept après la publication
de trois bans du mariage faite _______ nos messes paroiss
ales le trois dernier dimances consecutif entre Louis
Renault fils majeur de Jean Baptiste Renault et de
défunc Marguerite Maillé ses père et mère cultivateur
en cette paroisse d'une part et Françoise Charboneau fille
mineure de Jerome Charbonneau et du défuncte Charlotte
Martel le père et mère cultivateur en cette paroisse d'autre
part, n s'étant découvert aucun empechement au dit
mariage, nous soussignécuré de cette paroisse avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale ___la ____
___
___ et en présence de
jean baptiste renault père, jean baptiste _____et
joseph renault ____ l'époux et de jerome charbonneau
père et joseph charbonneau frère de l'épouse ____
_____ ont déclaré ne savoir signer
______
____Ptre
Giving us the parents of Louis Renaud/Renault as Jean Baptiste Renault and Marguerite Maillé/Maillet who were themselves married 25 Aug 1768 at Rivière des Prairies. This marriage is not in the Renault family line on Tanguay but the scan of the marriage lines has been found. I will transcribe this one another day but Louis is the son of Joseph Renault and Catherine Beauchamp and their marriage was celebrated 2 Apr 1738 at Lachenaye. This marriage is in Tanguay with the father of Joseph being Michel Renault and his mother Marie Renée Réaume and their marriage was celebrated 25 Nov 1698 at Charlesbourg. Tanguay chooses one spelling and stays with that and in this case he chose to use Renaud.
Michel Renault's father is listed as Mathurin Renault and his mother as Marie Pelletier and they married 7 Oct 1669 at Québec.
Mathurin Renault was the emigrant ancestor having been born in France and he is Generation 1.
Michel Renault married to Marie Renée Réaume is Generation 2.
Joseph Renault married to Catherine Beauchamp is Generation 3.
Jean Baptiste Renault married to Marguerite Maillé is Generation 4.
Louis Renaud married to Françoise Charbonneau is Generation 5.
Joseph Renaud married to Elmire Chartrand is Generation 6.
Antoine Renaud married to Emélie Piché is Generation 7.
Rosalie Renaud married to Joseph Dumoulin is Generation 8.
My next research day I will work on more transcriptions of the CMBs, improving the present transcriptions and collecting more of the CMBs for this family line as well as the census and any other records.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Vaillancour families
I discovered that I had two rather interesting coincidental same names. Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt married Louis Piché 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique and Marie Josephte Bénoit dite Vaillancourt married Joseph Louis Matte 5 Feb 1839 at St Jerome. They are both born around 1820.
Parents for Marie Josephte were Joseph Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Josephte Chauret (Chaurette) who themselves were married 25 Nov 1811 at St Eustache with parents Barthélemy Vaillancour and Marie Louise Labelle/Charles Chauret and Marguerite Roy.
Parents for Josette were Alexis Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Charlotte Beauchamp who themselves were married 26 Jun 1815 at St Eustache with parents Alexis Vaillancour/Agathe Langlois dite Traversis and Joseph Beauchamp/Marie Euphrosine Villeneuve.
Alexis Vaillancour is the son of Barthélemy Vaillancour and his first wife Marie Madeleine Bouchard.
Working through the marriages of the parents/grandparents etc of Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt solved the mystery of the other Marie Josephte Bénoit dite Vaillancourt married to Joseph Louis Matte which had become my new brick wall once the wall collapsed for the parents of Joseph Louis Matte.
Tanguay refers to these families (Bénoit and Vaillancour) as two separate lines. It would appear that the priest added Bénoit to the Vaillancour line in the 1800s with the resultant surname Bénoit dit Vaillancourt. This tree also has the Bénoit line including Bénoit dit Livernois.
Must return now to my own family lines for a bit. I still have a number of items to solve and will try to prove four members a day across the 3x great grandparents for this tree. The generated book for this family is now up to 603 pages as I have inserted some of the documents. Eventually I will insert all the census that I am now using for proof and other interesting documents found online. Probably I will have to produce four files to keep the size of the electronic file under 2000 pages for each or perhaps I will have to go to the great grandparents producing eight files and then one linking file.
Parents for Marie Josephte were Joseph Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Josephte Chauret (Chaurette) who themselves were married 25 Nov 1811 at St Eustache with parents Barthélemy Vaillancour and Marie Louise Labelle/Charles Chauret and Marguerite Roy.
Parents for Josette were Alexis Bénoit dit Vaillancourt and Charlotte Beauchamp who themselves were married 26 Jun 1815 at St Eustache with parents Alexis Vaillancour/Agathe Langlois dite Traversis and Joseph Beauchamp/Marie Euphrosine Villeneuve.
Alexis Vaillancour is the son of Barthélemy Vaillancour and his first wife Marie Madeleine Bouchard.
Working through the marriages of the parents/grandparents etc of Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt solved the mystery of the other Marie Josephte Bénoit dite Vaillancourt married to Joseph Louis Matte which had become my new brick wall once the wall collapsed for the parents of Joseph Louis Matte.
Tanguay refers to these families (Bénoit and Vaillancour) as two separate lines. It would appear that the priest added Bénoit to the Vaillancour line in the 1800s with the resultant surname Bénoit dit Vaillancourt. This tree also has the Bénoit line including Bénoit dit Livernois.
Must return now to my own family lines for a bit. I still have a number of items to solve and will try to prove four members a day across the 3x great grandparents for this tree. The generated book for this family is now up to 603 pages as I have inserted some of the documents. Eventually I will insert all the census that I am now using for proof and other interesting documents found online. Probably I will have to produce four files to keep the size of the electronic file under 2000 pages for each or perhaps I will have to go to the great grandparents producing eight files and then one linking file.
Sunday, March 21, 2010
Buller family
Every once in a while I search on my Buller family. My grandmother, Ellen Rosina Buller was born 20 May 1886 at Birmingham Warwick the daughter of Edwin Denner Buller (b 8 Apr 1850 Birmingham) and Ellen Taylor (possibly born 9 Oct 1859 at Birmingham). Edwin had a brother Clement Charles Buller born Dec quarter 1856 Aston nr Birmingham. I found a short newspaper clipping from Uganda in 1888 which mentioned Clement Charles Buller (released from bankruptcy). I know that Clement Charles Buller was a Jeweller's clerk on the 1871 census but until now I knew nothing more about him from that date onwards. He literally disappears from the British Census after 1871 so it would appear perhaps that he went to Africa. Is there a clue in that for Edwin Buller? Edwin looked like he was a gunner at Woolwich in the Royal Artillery but Find My Past has now put up the records for the men who were chelsea pensioners after 1885 and the individual at Woolwich is Edwin Baller (mis read as Buller) who was actually born at Westmoreland but enlisted at Birmingham and claimed his birthplace as Aston and birth year as 1850. Why he did that is a mystery but he is still alive on the 1901 census so can not be my great grandfather who died in 1899.
That was good news and bad news. Bad because the Edwin Buller at Woolwich made my life easier although I couldn't find information until now on him :) . The good news is that I can continue looking for information on my great grandfather to try to solve the puzzle of where he was from the 1861 census where he is with his grandmother Sarah (Cheatle) Welch to the 1886 birth of my grandmother and he is on the 1891 census at Birmingham.
My grandmother had told me about this tall gentleman who walked with a cane from a leg injury (and the military aspect suited that but he never claimed to be a Chelsea Pensioner). I have stories that he was a policeman and I shall perhaps pursue that thought now. But I do know his occupation on the 1891 census of drover and journey soap maker. He always seems to have two occupations and my grandmother did say that he worked very hard.
Enough of that for today though I think. I always have this vague tale that he was in Africa so perhaps was there with his brother but returned home to England in the mid 1880s.
I have also been working on some of the French Canadian lines of our son in law. I have made a few good breakthroughs where it appeared like a dead end in terms of searching. One of my most recent finds was the parents of Octavie Lavigne who married Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St-Jean 8 Nov 1875 at Ste Scholastique, Deux-Montagnes. Her parents were Hyacinthe Lavigne and Josephte Potvin. I could not find a marriage for this couple initially but finally did find that Hyacinthe's surname was Lavigne dit Poudret and Josephte's surname was d'Amour dite Potvin. They married 1 Oct 1838 at St Benoit and their marriage revealed the names of their parents.
Hyacinthe Lavigne dit Poudret parents: Augustin Poudrette dit Lavigne and Josephte Labrosse dite Raymond who married 18 Feb 1811 at St Benoit. Their marriage lines revealed the names of their parents.
Josephte d'Amour dite Potvin parents: Nicolas d'Amour dit Potvin and Rosalie Marie Beauchamp who married 14 Feb 1814 at St Eustache. I have read the names of Nicolas' parents from the marriage registration.
Nicolas d'Amour dite Potvin parents: Pierre d'Amour dit Potvin and Marie Anne Legault dite Deslauriers and they married 22 Oct 1770 at Lachine.
Augustin Poudrette dit Lavigne parents: Joseph Marie Poudret dit Lavigne and Marie Angélique Ranger dite Laviolette who married 17 Jan 1774 at Ste Geneviève.
Josephte Labrosse dite Raymond parents: Joachim Labrosse dit Raymond and Judith Marie Groulx who married 7 Aug 1775 at St Laurent.
I will continue searching back on these lines but it was indeed a good breakthrough for me as this has been a brickwall that I couldn't appear to solve. Interestingly the breakthrough came as a result of looking up the marriage of Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St-Jean and Octavie Lavigne on the LDS Family Search website. I then went back to Ancestry and pulled the marriages.
That was good news and bad news. Bad because the Edwin Buller at Woolwich made my life easier although I couldn't find information until now on him :) . The good news is that I can continue looking for information on my great grandfather to try to solve the puzzle of where he was from the 1861 census where he is with his grandmother Sarah (Cheatle) Welch to the 1886 birth of my grandmother and he is on the 1891 census at Birmingham.
My grandmother had told me about this tall gentleman who walked with a cane from a leg injury (and the military aspect suited that but he never claimed to be a Chelsea Pensioner). I have stories that he was a policeman and I shall perhaps pursue that thought now. But I do know his occupation on the 1891 census of drover and journey soap maker. He always seems to have two occupations and my grandmother did say that he worked very hard.
Enough of that for today though I think. I always have this vague tale that he was in Africa so perhaps was there with his brother but returned home to England in the mid 1880s.
I have also been working on some of the French Canadian lines of our son in law. I have made a few good breakthroughs where it appeared like a dead end in terms of searching. One of my most recent finds was the parents of Octavie Lavigne who married Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St-Jean 8 Nov 1875 at Ste Scholastique, Deux-Montagnes. Her parents were Hyacinthe Lavigne and Josephte Potvin. I could not find a marriage for this couple initially but finally did find that Hyacinthe's surname was Lavigne dit Poudret and Josephte's surname was d'Amour dite Potvin. They married 1 Oct 1838 at St Benoit and their marriage revealed the names of their parents.
Hyacinthe Lavigne dit Poudret parents: Augustin Poudrette dit Lavigne and Josephte Labrosse dite Raymond who married 18 Feb 1811 at St Benoit. Their marriage lines revealed the names of their parents.
Josephte d'Amour dite Potvin parents: Nicolas d'Amour dit Potvin and Rosalie Marie Beauchamp who married 14 Feb 1814 at St Eustache. I have read the names of Nicolas' parents from the marriage registration.
Nicolas d'Amour dite Potvin parents: Pierre d'Amour dit Potvin and Marie Anne Legault dite Deslauriers and they married 22 Oct 1770 at Lachine.
Augustin Poudrette dit Lavigne parents: Joseph Marie Poudret dit Lavigne and Marie Angélique Ranger dite Laviolette who married 17 Jan 1774 at Ste Geneviève.
Josephte Labrosse dite Raymond parents: Joachim Labrosse dit Raymond and Judith Marie Groulx who married 7 Aug 1775 at St Laurent.
I will continue searching back on these lines but it was indeed a good breakthrough for me as this has been a brickwall that I couldn't appear to solve. Interestingly the breakthrough came as a result of looking up the marriage of Jean Baptiste Lagarde dit St-Jean and Octavie Lavigne on the LDS Family Search website. I then went back to Ancestry and pulled the marriages.
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