Showing posts with label Moulam. Show all posts
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Monday, April 6, 2015

Ann Vincent (1755 - probably by 1841)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 14

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, unknown, Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, Durnford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterel, Bartlett, Alderman, Ann (unknown), Sherwood, unknown, Habberfield, Collings, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Canham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Ann Vincent/Vinsent and I list both spellings of her surname. Ann was baptized at Dewlish and the second child in her family with the forename Ann (the first was spelled Anne but she died as a child in 1752). Ann's parents were James Vinsent/Vincent and Ann Moulam/Moulain/Mowlam. They were married 28 Nov 1733 at Dewlish, Dorset. Ann had seven siblings: Sarah 1735, Anne 1737-1752, Mary 1739, Francis 1740, James 1743, John 1745, and Benjamin 1749. All baptized at Dewlish. Their mother Ann Moulam/Moulain/Mowlam was also baptized at Dewlish 16 Dec 1712 and she was buried there circa 1768. Her parents were William Moulan/Moulain/Mowlam and Elizabeth. I have not yet found their marriage although they baptized 8 children at Dewlish but many died as infants including twins baptized in 1719. For a long time I did not have the parents of Ann because I was looking in the wrong place namely Shapwick where one finds the marriage of James Vinsent and Ann Moulam's daughter Ann to John Knight.

My Knight family is actually quite interesting and I will be tracing those two 4x great grandparents to a common ancestor - another case of pedigree collapse in my lines going back. That is to come as I do have two Knight lines.

I do not know anything about the Vinsent/Vincent or the Moulam.Moulain/Mowlam families but suspect they may be French Huguenot. I may pursue that notion at a later date. It is possible that James was the son of an Edward who was himself perhaps the son of Johannis Vincent/Vinsent. The registers do not clarify these entries that others have added to their family trees on My Heritage but I will keep that in the back of my mind. James was buried 20 Jun 1769 at Dewlish with Ann having preceded him in 1768 and also buried at Dewlish.

John Knight (Ann Vinsent's husband) was a bricklayer and also had a property on which he paid tax according to the records held at Find My Past. I have not traced down all of the lines in the family of John Knight and Ann Vinsent  namely Joseph 1785-1785, Eleanor 1786-1870 (my ancestor), Sophia 1789, Martha 1796 and John 1800. John certainly left descendants as he can be found on the census. Eleanor Knight married a distant cousin Ellis Knight and they had 13 children (something my grandfather remembered (a baker's dozen he called their children) and lived first at Spetisbury and later Turnworth. Samuel, their 11th child was my 2x great grandfather and he married Louisa Butt. Their daughter Mary Jane Knight married Edward Blake and they were my great-grandparents.

We visited Turnworth and saw the memorial stone for Samuel and Louisa and also visited the church which was somewhat of an awesome event for me. The skelton key which I held in my hand (opened the Church) was ancient and surely rested in the hands of Samuel at some point in the past. Thomas, Samuel's brother, had been parish clerk for thirty years. I can tell by the records that on occasion Samuel helped him with his tasks. To have touched an object that your ancestor touched is truly an unforgettable experience. Samuel died 12 years after his wife and as I touched the memorial stone I thought of this tall thin white haired man as my father remembered him and likely he too would come and touch the gravestone of his wife (the stone was likely put up for her as the carving was not the same).

Going and visiting the places where your ancestors lived, seeing the house that they lived in and walking the paths that they walked is perhaps one of the most meaningful experiences that I have had doing my genealogical research.

Ancestry for Ann Vincent/Vinsent:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Ernest Edward George BLAKE (b 20 Aug 1904) - Eastleigh Hampshire England
3. Samuel George Blake (b 10 Feb 1875) - Upper Clatford Hampshire England
4. Maria Jane KNIGHT (b 27 Jan 1849) - Turnworth Dorset England
5. Samuel KNIGHT (b 25 May 1828) - Turnworth Dorset England
6. Eleanor KNIGHT (b 12 Dec 1786) - Spetisbury Dorset England
7. Ann VINCENT (b 26 Oct 1755) - Dewlish Dorset England
8. James VINCENT

1. Ann VINCENT (b 26 Oct 1755) - Dewlish Dorset England
2. Ann MOULAM/MOULAIN/MOWLAM (17 Dec 1712) - Dewlish Dorset England
3. William MOULAM/MOULAIN/MOWLAM

The intent on working through these stories is to see if I can find anything more and definitely I have learned that the name has several possibilities and I have collected a lot of sibling's names. The addition of a parent Edward to James Vincent is interesting and perhaps a Johannis as the father of Edward.

I begin the second quarter of the year with this posting. I have managed to keep up thus far and perhaps I will do the two Knight lines with my next two postings.

Thursday, April 11, 2013

Research for the Vincent Family

The Vincent family of Shapwick is still somewhat of a mystery:  I believe that Ann Vincent (married to John Knight and the mother of Eleanor Knight married to Ellis Knight) was born/baptized at Dewlish 26 Oct 1755. If this is correct then her parents were James Vincent and Ann Moulam who married at Dewlish 28 Nov 1733 and Ann must have been one of their last children. Their first daughter named Ann died in 1752.

John Knight and Ann Vincent married 9 Jun 1783 at Shapwick but a check of the parish registers at Shapwick does not reveal a Vincent family although the priest notes that Ann Vincent was of the parish and reports John Knight to be of Spetisbury parish which is correct.

Possible reasons for Ann being in Shapwick (both signed the marriage registration) she was perhaps employed or living with relatives. Her parents were elderly by 1783 as they married in 1733 so both could have been in their early 70s or older if still living in 1783. Finding their burials would be handy and  I did check the parish registers for Shapwick burials but did not find anything between 1750 and 1790. Ann would have been 28 years of age when she married the 26 year old John Knight. Although Dewlish is not close to Spetisbury it is only 3 miles from Milton Abbas, 4 miles from winterbourne Whitchurch, 5 miles from Winterbourne Clenstone where a number of my other relatives lived and in particular only 6 miles from Winterborne Stickland where William Knight and Sarah Ellis were married just eight years earlier. It is their son Ellis who married Eleanor the daughter of John Knight and Ann Vincent.

Another interesting item found whilst searching the Dewlish parish registers was the Wellspring family. Ellis Ellis married Sarah Wellspring 7 Mar 1737 at Winterborne Stickland and I have not yet discovered the parents of Sarah Wellspring.

My next research day I will continue to hunt out references to the Vincent family. I shall perhaps check My Heritage and Genes Reunited for matches and email these if found.




Sunday, December 16, 2012

Descendants of Henry Knight of Spetisbury, Dorset, England

Whilst glancing at my blog today I noticed that the Knight family in Dorset is attracting some attention. I did eventually put together some of the OPC records for Spetisbury and the Knight family there and it does appear that My Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight were cousins as my grandfather had mentioned. They were not, however, first cousins. I have extracted from legacy the narrative descendant description for Henry Knight at Spetisbury as follows (the information on Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight is duplicated because they share the same great great grandparents Henry Knight and Mary Oliver). Having posted this I now realize that the records prior to 1813 are now up on Ancestry and decided to spend a bit of time looking at that although do not really have any spare time but I will make changes in the following:

Descendants of Henry Knight

Henry Knight [16859].

Henry married Mary Oliver [16860] [MRIN: 5858] on 25 Dec 1727 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.  He was Parish Clerk at Spetisbury (interestingly enough one of his great grandsons was Parish Clerk at Turnworth for 30 years). They had 15 children with the following reaching adulthood: Henry, Thomas, William and David.

David Knight [16857] was christened on 2 May 1736 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.

David married Martha Butler [16858] [MRIN: 5857] on 17 Feb 1756 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.  They had several children and I will add the details later: John.

John Knight [526] was born in 1757 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England, was christened on 2 Oct 1757 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England, and was buried on 17 Nov 1826 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.

Noted events in his life were:

•  He appears on the Spetisbury Militia List 1787 DRO MIC/R/500 in 1787 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England. John Knight listed as a bricklayer with one child.

John married Ann Vincent [527] [MRIN: 158], daughter of James Vincent [16861] and Ann Moulam [16862], on 9 Jun 1783 in Shapwick, Dorset, England. Ann was born in Oct 1755 in Dewlish, Dorset, England and was christened on 26 Oct 1755 in Dewlish, Dorset, England. They had five children: Joseph, Eleanor, Sophia, Martha and John.

Marriage Notes:  Parish Records Collection - marriage - Find My Past

Day: 9
Month: Jun
Year: 1783
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Surname: KNIGHT
Groom notes:
Grooms parish: of Spetisbury
Bride Forenames: Ann
Bride Surname: VINCENT
Bride notes:
Brides parish: By licence:
Place: Shapwick
Dedication:
County: Dorset
Country: England
Witnesses: Henry WHITE, Malby CALCOTT

Joseph Knight [16863] was born in Aug 1785 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England and was christened on 24 Aug 1785 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.

Eleanor Knight [17]1 was born in Dec 1786 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England,1 was christened on 12 Dec 1786 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England, died on 25 Sep 1870 in Turnworth, Dorset, England aged 83, and was buried on 28 Sep 1870 in Turnworth, Dorset, England.

Noted events in her life were:

•  1851 Census: Census 1851, Jun 1851, Turnworth, Dorset, England.4 Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Dorset County, Blandford RD, Turnworth Village, Class: HO107; Piece: 1853; Folio: 5; Page: 3; Household schedule 11, Samuel Knight family, GSU roll: 221000.

  Elena Knight   Age:67    Estimated birth year:abt 1784   Relation:Mother    Gender:Female   Where born:Spetisbury, Dorset, England     Civil parish:Turnworth    County/Island:Dorset    Country:England        Registration district:Blandford    Sub-registration district:Milton Abbas    ED, institution, or vessel:1      Household schedule number:11  Household Members:Name AgeElena Knight  67 Luisa Knight  22 Maria Knight  1 Samuel Knight  23
•  1861 Census: Census 1861, Jun 1861, Turnworth, Dorset, England.5 Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Dorset county, Blandford RD, Turnworth village, Class: RG9; Piece: 1332; Folio: 4; Page: 1; Household schedule 5, Samuel Knight family, GSU roll: 542797.

  Ellen Knight   Age:76    Estimated birth year:abt 1785   Relation:Boarder    Gender:Female   Where born:Spettisbury, Dorset, England     Civil parish:Turnworth    County/Island:Dorset    Country:England        Registration district:Blandford    Sub-registration district:Milton Abbas    Household Members:Name AgeElizabeth Knight  9 Ellen Knight  76 Henry Knight  3 Louisa Knight  34 Maria Knight  11 Mary Ann Knight  7 Samuel Knight  34

Eleanor married Ellis Knight [16]6 [MRIN: 11], son of William Knight [518] and Sarah Ellis [519], on 29 May 1804 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England. Ellis was born on 17 Jan 1783 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened on 17 Jan 1783 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, died on 24 Jan 1851 in Turnworth, Dorset, England aged 68, and was buried on 26 Jan 1851 in Turnworth, Dorset, England. They had 13 children: Ellis, George, Mary Ann, Samuel, Maria, Henry, Elizabeth, Edward, John, Thomas, Samuel, Martha and George.

Noted events in his life were:

•  1841 Census: Census 1841, 1841, Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.10 Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Dorset County, Blandford RD, Turnworth Village, Class: HO107; Piece 290; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Turnworth; County: Dorset; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: ; Page: 15; Line: 15; Ellis Knight household, GSU roll: 241341.
  Elles Kinght[Ellis Knight]     Age:60    Estimated birth year:abt 1781   Gender:Male    Where born:Dorset, England     Civil parish:Turnworth    Hundred:Cranborne    County/Island:Dorset    Country:England        Registration district:Blandford    Sub-registration district:Milton Abbas     Household Members:Name AgeEdward Kinght  20 Eleanor Kinght  35 Elles Kinght  60 George Kinght  11 John Kinght  15 Martha Kinght  12 Samuel Kinght  14 Thomas Kinght  15   Name, age, occupation, born in Dorset
William Knight, 60, Ag Lab, yes
Elias Knight, 60, Ag Lab, yes
Ellen Knight, 20, -, yes  (age should be 55)
Martha Knight, 1, -, yes (age should be 11)


•  Family Lore: Discussion with Grandfather Samuel Blake, Grandpa mentioned one day when we were talking that one of his great grandparents (and he actually meant great great grandfather) had had 13 children (a baker's dozen and the conversation had resulted from a discussion of what a baker's dozen is!). Ellis and Eleanor did indeed have 13 children.

Sophia Knight [16866] was born in Sep 1789 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England and was christened on 25 Sep 1789 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.

Martha Knight [16865] was born in Oct 1796 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England and was christened on 8 Oct 1796 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.

John Knight [16864] was born in Nov 1800 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England and was christened on 30 Nov 1800 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.

William Knight [16886] was christened on 6 Jan 1733/34 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England. The original registers do not appear to help me with this William and I will have a longer look in January

William married and had one son William (this information doesn't have a reference and must check to see where I obtained it).

William Knight [518] was born in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, and was buried on 4 Mar 1827 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.

William married Sarah Ellis [519] [MRIN: 155], daughter of Ellis Ellis [3005] and Sarah Wellspring [3006], on 7 Aug 1775 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England. Sarah was born in Jun 1756 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened on 5 Aug 1756 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, died on 9 Jun 1844 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England aged 88, and was buried on 13 Jun 1844 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England. They had eight children: William, Elias, Ellis, George, Samuel, Stephen, Sarah and Joseph.

Marriage Notes:  Parish Records Collection - marriage

Day: 7
Month: Aug
Year: 1775
Groom Forenames: William
Groom Surname: KNIGHT
Bride Forenames: Sarah
Bride Surname: ELLIS
Brides parish: By licence:
Place: Winterborne Stickland
Dedication:
County: Dorset
Country: England
Witnesses: Henry HAIN, Thomas BENCH (x).

William Knight [529] was born on 15 Jul 1776 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened on 21 Jul 1776 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, and was buried on 22 Sep 1841 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.

Elias Knight [530] was born on 22 Feb 1779 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened on 24 Feb 1779 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, and died on 24 Feb 1779 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.

Ellis Knight [16]6 was born on 17 Jan 1783 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened on 17 Jan 1783 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, died on 24 Jan 1851 in Turnworth, Dorset, England aged 68, and was buried on 26 Jan 1851 in Turnworth, Dorset, England

Noted events in his life were:

•  1841 Census: Census 1841, 1841, Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.10 Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Dorset County, Blandford RD, Turnworth Village, Class: HO107; Piece 290; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Turnworth; County: Dorset; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: ; Page: 15; Line: 15; Ellis Knight household, GSU roll: 241341.
  Elles Kinght[Ellis Knight]     Age:60    Estimated birth year:abt 1781   Gender:Male    Where born:Dorset, England     Civil parish:Turnworth    Hundred:Cranborne    County/Island:Dorset    Country:England        Registration district:Blandford    Sub-registration district:Milton Abbas     Household Members:Name AgeEdward Kinght  20 Eleanor Kinght  35 Elles Kinght  60 George Kinght  11 John Kinght  15 Martha Kinght  12 Samuel Kinght  14 Thomas Kinght  15   Name, age, occupation, born in Dorset
William Knight, 60, Ag Lab, yes
Elias Knight, 60, Ag Lab, yes
Ellen Knight, 20, -, yes  (age should be 55)
Martha Knight, 1, -, yes (age should be 11)


•  Family Lore: Discussion with Grandfather Samuel Blake. Grandpa mentioned one day when we were talking that one of his great grandparents (and he actually meant great great grandfather) had had 13 children (a baker's dozen and the conversation had resulted from a discussion of what a baker's dozen is!). Ellis and Eleanor did indeed have 13 children.

Ellis married Eleanor Knight [17]1 [MRIN: 11], daughter of John Knight [526] and Ann Vincent [527], on 29 May 1804 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England.7 Eleanor was born in Dec 1786 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England,1 was christened on 12 Dec 1786 in Spetisbury, Dorset, England, died on 25 Sep 1870 in Turnworth, Dorset, England aged 83, and was buried on 28 Sep 1870 in Turnworth, Dorset, England.  They had 13 children: Ellis, George, Mary Ann, Samuel, Maria, Henry, Elizabeth, Edward, John, Thomas, Samuel, Martha and George.

Noted events in her life were:

•  1851 Census: Census 1851, Jun 1851, Turnworth, Dorset, England.4 Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Dorset County, Blandford RD, Turnworth Village, Class: HO107; Piece: 1853; Folio: 5; Page: 3; Household schedule 11, Samuel Knight family, GSU roll: 221000.

  Elena Knight   Age:67    Estimated birth year:abt 1784   Relation:Mother    Gender:Female   Where born:Spetisbury, Dorset, England     Civil parish:Turnworth    County/Island:Dorset    Country:England        Registration district:Blandford    Sub-registration district:Milton Abbas    ED, institution, or vessel:1      Household schedule number:11  Household Members:Name AgeElena Knight  67 Luisa Knight  22 Maria Knight  1 Samuel Knight  23
•  1861 Census: Census 1861, Jun 1861, Turnworth, Dorset, England.5 Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Dorset county, Blandford RD, Turnworth village, Class: RG9; Piece: 1332; Folio: 4; Page: 1; Household schedule 5, Samuel Knight family, GSU roll: 542797.

  Ellen Knight   Age:76    Estimated birth year:abt 1785   Relation:Boarder    Gender:Female   Where born:Spettisbury, Dorset, England     Civil parish:Turnworth    County/Island:Dorset    Country:England        Registration district:Blandford    Sub-registration district:Milton Abbas    ED, institution, or vessel:7      Household schedule number:5  Household Members:Name AgeElizabeth Knight  9 Ellen Knight  76 Henry Knight  3 Louisa Knight  34 Maria Knight  11 Mary Ann Knight  7 Samuel Knight  34

George Knight [531] was born in 1785 and was christened on 6 Mar 1785 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.

Samuel Knight [532] was born in 1788 and was christened on 4 May 1788 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.

Stephen Knight [533] was born in 1790 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, was christened on 16 Nov 1790 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, and died after 1881.Stephen married Mary Ruth [Knight] [3830] [MRIN: 1052] before 1818. Mary was born in 1794 in Wallop, Hampshire, England and died before 1881. They had seven children: Joseph, William, Martha, Stephen, Sarah, Eliza Amelia and Stephen.

Sarah Knight [534] was born in 1792 and was christened on 27 Dec 1792 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England.Sarah married George Morris [11916] [MRIN: 3428] on 1 Mar 1824 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England. George was born circa 1789 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England. They had three children: Samuel, Thomas and Hannah.

Joseph Knight [536] was born in 1799, was christened on 9 May 1799 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England, and was buried on 16 Mar 1835 in Winterborne Stickland, Dorset, England

Sunday, July 24, 2011

Knight family of Spetisbury, Winterborne Stickland and Turnworth

An interesting email and a number of images from an Australian correspondent on the Butt family has led me back once again to my Knight family. I haven't been able to agree with other Knight researchers on our mutual ancestors before William Knight (married to Sarah Ellis) and John Knight (married to Ann Vincent). I have a vague recollection of my Grandfather mentioning that he had grandparents that were cousins and that they had 18 children. It does appear that it was a set of his great grandparents who had 13 children but I was only eight when he died so could easily have misunderstood that. I haven't been able to find the cousin relationship although Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight certainly shared the same surname (they were my grandfather's great grandparents). There is at least one cousin marriage though that I do know about now and my grandfather could have been confused in that regard now that I have put the Carter/Blake/King family puzzle together with Joseph Blake and Joanna King (one set of my 4x great grandparents) being first cousins.

As I was going through the Winterborne Stickland Parish Registers I noted a marriage with John Vincent of Dewlish and so I had a look at that parish and discovered many Vincent entries including Ann baptized 26 Oct 1755 at Dewlish and the daughter of James Vincent and Ann Moulam. Ann Vincent married John Knight 9 Jun 1783 at Shapwick (2 miles from Spetisbury) and I have been trying to find information on this couple for quite a while. Why do they marry at Shapwick and not Spetisbury? Dewlish is 11 miles from Shapwick as well; why not Dewlish if that is her birthplace? James Vincent and Ann Moulam married 28 Nov 1733 at Dewlish and their first daughter Ann died young. However, when I check the OPC Dorset site for Shapwick the marriage registration is there for John Knight and Ann Vincent but no baptisms at Shapwick for the Knight family. Also they are the only Knight marriage at Shapwick between 1731 and 1813.

Also in the Winterborne Stickland Parish Registers I found the burial of John Knight 17 Nov 1826 and his age was listed as 69 years giving him a likely year of birth of 1757 and there is a christening 2 Oct 1757 at Spetisbury of John son of David Knight and Martha Buller (married 17 Feb 1756 at Spetisbury). I had discarded this couple as the parents of John because John and Ann did not name one of their sons David. Nor did they name one of their sons Henry and David is known to be the son of Henry Knight and Mary Oliver (married 25 Dec 1727 at Spetisbury). But as I worked my way through these thoughts I am remembering that I did not find the children of John Knight and Ann Vincent - they were given to me early on in my genealogy work. I did not touch the Knight family when we went to Salt Lake City so in fact I have not really looked at this family beyond doubting the connections that other researchers have found between William and John Knight (both are my 4x great grandfathers) and the ancestors of these two.

Looking at the IGI since the baptisms are not yet online at Ancestry in the Dorset records, I find

Eleanor baptized 12 Dec 1786 at Silton
Martha baptized 28 Oct 1796 at Silton

I know from the census that Eleanor always says she was born at Spetisbury so the Silton is somewhat confusing and as well 19 miles from Spetisbury. Is this an error of transcription? Once the registers are online prior to 1813 I will have an answer to that question. Looking at the OPC Dorset website, Silton Bishop Transcripts do not list any Knight baptisms between 1731 and 1880 so it is an error but in favour of which village? That remains to be discovered.

Did they have only the two children? There are seven other children listed for this couple by other researchers: Elizabeth Ann, Thomas, Jemima, Benjamin, Joseph, James and Samuel. No baptisms are listed by other researchers for these children; dates given are from the census when available otherwise they would appear to be subjective.A great deal is known about Eleanor and she was 83 years of age when she died. She lived with my grandfather's grandfather and died just before the marriage of my great grandparents Blake 25 Sep 1870 at Turnworth (Edward Blake married Maria Jane Knight 29 Oct 1870 at Upper Clatford).

Eleanor Knight married Ellis Knight 29 May 1804 at Spetisbury but their marriage in the IGI is listed as Silton. This Knight marriage does not appear on the Silton Parish Records on the OPC site.

From another researcher I have but not verified by me:

Spetisbury Parish Records
FHL Film # 1239228

Baptisms
1812  May 24    Harry  s/o William & Sarah Knight 
1811  Nov 8      Samuel s/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1810  Oct 1       George s/o Henry & Anne Knight
1810  Oct 8       William s/o William & Eliz Knight
1809  Aug 20    George s/o William & Sarah Knight
1809  Nov 26    Mary Ann d/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1808  Jun 28     George s/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1808  Oct 30     Jane d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1807  Feb 25    Eliz d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1807  Mar 22    Hannah d/o William & Sarah Knight
1807  Aug 16    David s/o William & Eliz Knight
1806  Jul 27      Ellis s/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1804  Jan 22    Charles s/o William & Sarah Knight
1804  Oct 21    Eliza d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1802  May 11   James s/o William & Sarah Knight
1802  Dec 26   Mary Ann d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1801  Jan 11    Henrietta d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1800  Nov 30   John s/o John & Ann Knight
1799  Mar 22    Benjamin s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1799  Sep 22   William s/o William & Sarah Knight
1798  Apr 29    Joseph s/o Thomas & Ann Knight
1798  Sep 25   Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1797  Jan ?      Maria d/o John & ?? Knight (bef Jan 10)
1797  Nov 13   Jemima d/o William & Ann Knight
1796  Oct 8      Martha d/o John & Ann Knight
1795  Sep 17  Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1795  Oct 4      George s/o Sarah Knight
1795  Dec 15   Ann d/o Thomas & Ann Knight
1794  Jan 30    Mary d/o Thomas & Ann Knight
1794  Mar 3      Harriet d/o John & Eliz Knight
1794  Jul 6        James s/o William & Ann Knight
1792  Jun 3       Charlotte c/o John & Eliz Knight
1792  Aug 9      Mary Ann d/o Thomas & Eliz Knight
1792  Oct 7       Mary Ann d/o John & Eliz Knight
1791  Apr 21    Jane d/o John & Eliz Knight
1791  Oct 16    Elizabeth Anne d/o William & Ann Knight
1789  Jun 28   Charles s/o William & Ann Knight
1789  Sep 25   Sophia d/o Jo & Anne Knight
1789  Dec 1     Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1787  Dec 16   David s/o John & Eliz Knight
1786  Jan 1      Jane d/o John & Eliz Knight
1786  Dec 12   Eleanor d/o John & Ann Knight
1785  Aug 24   Joseph s/o Joh & Anne Knight
1784  May 2      David s/o J & Eliz Knight
1778  Oct 1       George s/o Thomas & Martha Knight
1777  Jan 26     Mary d/o Thomas & Martha Knight
1777  Dec 27    David s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1774  Apr 3        Henry s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1773  Nov 21     Henry s/o Thomas & Martha Knight
1772  Dec 13    Thomas s/o David & Martha Knight
1770  May 20     David s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1768  Feb 24     Elizabeth d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1766  Feb 2       Sarah d/o Henry  & Ann Knight
1764  Feb 5      William s/o David & Martha Knight
1764  Mar 21    Henry s/o Henry & Ann Knight

Marriages
1804  Apr 8     William Knight & Eliz Mitchel
1804  May 29  Ellis Knight & Eleanor Knight
1799  Apr 13    Henry Knight & Ann Holloway
1798  Nov ?     William Knight & Sarah Loader
1793  Nov 7      James Collins & Ann Knight
1791  Jan 17     John Smith of Blandford Forum & Mary Knight
1786  Oct 23     William Knight, b & Ann Ballet, s, both OTP

Burials

1810  Oct 8      William s/o William & Eliz Knight
1806  Jan 1      Martha Knight
1801  Feb 3     Henry Knight
1801  Jun 10    Elizabeth Knight
1801  Sep 14   Charles Knight
1801  Sep 14   James Knight
1799  Feb 15   John Knight
1798  May 8     Ann Knight
1796  Jan 5      Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1796  Jan 13    Harriet d/o John & Eliz Knight
1793  Oct 19    Miriam Knight
1791  Apr 21   Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1788  Jun 2      Henry Knight
1788  Jun 11    Ann widow of Henry Knight
1787  Jan 31    Jane d/o John & Eliz Knight
1786  Jan 19    David s/o John & Eliz Knight
1786  Aug 16    Mary Knight
1785  Sep 4      Joseph s/o John & Eliz Knight
1778  Sep 28   Henry Knight, parish clerk
1773  Sep 20   Henry s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1768  Feb 26   Eliz infant d/o Henry & Ann Knight


From this list I have as children of John and Ann Knight:

1800  Nov 30   John s/o John & Ann Knight
1796  Oct 8      Martha d/o John & Ann Knight
1789  Sep 25   Sophia d/o Jo & Anne Knight
1786  Dec 12   Eleanor d/o John & Ann Knight
1785  Aug 24   Joseph s/o Joh & Anne Knight

I am noticing that Elizabeth Ann, Thomas, Jemima, Benjamin, James and Samuel belong to different parents namely William and Ann Knight. David, Henry and Thomas are all brothers and sons of Henry Knight and Mary Oliver. The big question to me at this point is who is Henry Knight married to Mary Oliver. He was Parish Clerk at Spetisbury and buried 28 Sep 1778.

I shall check the Spetisbury records on Ancestry now to see if I can find any marriages for these children and I did not find anything conclusive for Sophia, Martha, Joseph or John siblings of Eleanor.

I do have one part of my question answered with respect to John and William Knight. They are not brothers. Probably they are not first cousins but beyond that I have no idea. I am not sure of the parents of William Knight and Sarah Ellis. Sarah does appear on the census so I know that she was born around 1756 which fits with the data that I have. But were the parents of William Knight as thought? Were they William Knight and Mary Dashwood who married 9 Aug 1760 at St Peter Shaftesbury Dorset?