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Saturday, May 10, 2025

Will of Agnes Blake, Charleton, Hampshire, England - 4 Apr 1617 and probated 5 May 1617

 This will was quite interesting. There is an inventory which I decided not to transcribe as it would not add anything to my research. But the Probatum revealed that her husband’s name was Robert and he was of Andover. So well worth the time and effort.

I should be able to place her and her relationship to the Thurman family would be anticipated with Robert Blake of Andover being her husband. Her maiden name is now known (Garle) as she identified John Garle of Chute as her brother. Sometimes a will can be a surprise as I did not expect to find anything helpful for the Andover Blake family with an Agnes Blake of Charlton widow’s will.

I may have to rethink these wills for the Diocesan Court - they will provide useful information for sure but the idea of publishing them with a Creative Commons License may disappear since the first one I am already not doing the Inventory as it does not provide any useful material and will take me a bit of time to transcribe it. I will add them to the Blake material held by the Guild of One Name Studies for sure as an electronic book. 

So a good beginning on this work and I shall try to do a few a week. It is awhile since I transcribed any wills. I need to put my efforts to the grindstone and just work away at this and not get distracted. A lovely walk up to the store today but the sidewalks are really very busy; much easier to go when I usually go when school is in and people are working. 


Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 6 May 2025
Source: Hampshire Record Office 62475_3730550019_4556-00000
Testator: Agnes Blake
Place: Charlton, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 4 Apr 1617, probated

[Wrapper]:

1    Memorand[um] that about the fowerth daie of Aprill
2    in the yere of our Lord God one thousand six hundred and
3    seventeene Agnes Blake of Charllton in the parish of Andever
4    in the countie of South[ampton] widowe beinge of p[er]fect memorie thanks
5    be to God did declare her last Will and Testament nuncupative
6    in manner and forme as followeth First shee bequeathed her
7    soule in the hands of the almightie and her bodie to Christian
8    buriall Item shee gave unto her brother John Garle of
9    Chute five shillings I[e]tm shee gave unto William Sweataple
10    her godsonne a brasse pan a candlestick and a chest I[e]tm
11    shee gave unto Murqerie Thurman her
12    little brasse pann It[e]m shee gave unto Agnes Drue her
13    god daughter the bed w[hi]ch shee laye upon w[i]th the furniture
14    upon yt Item shee gave unto five poore weomen viz[a vi]t
15    Margaret Framich widowe Sibill Carick Mary Rutt widowes
16    Johane Sam and Agnes Thurman widowe for their paines
17    vj d a peece Item more unto shee gave more unto Johane Sam her Russet
18    gowne It[e]m more unto Marie Rutt her old peticote It[e]m shee
18    gave unto Margaret Swetaple her best kercheife her
19    best partlett and her hollan aperon It[e]m shee gave unto
20    Marie Foster a hollan partlett and a lokrom aperon It[e]m
21    shee gave unto Johane Drue a hollan p[ar]tlett and her best gowne
22    and her best hatt It[e]m shee gave unto Johane Foster a
23    p[ar]tlett w[i]th cutt worck strippes It[e]m shee gave unto Jane
24    Foster a greene lace aperon It[e]m shee gave unto Gillian
25    Drue her best petticote and a lynsey wolsey wascote The
26    rest of all her goods she gave unto Robert Drue to have
27    all and paie all
28    Declared and pronounced
29    In the p[re]sence of
30    William X (his mark) Sweataple  Aliced Foster (signed mark)
31    Johanne Foster (signed mark)
32    Margaret Framich (signed mark)
33    Sibill  X (her mark) Carrick
34    Probatum fuit h[uius]modi test[ament]um noncupative in cor[am] forma prob[atum]
35    Rasphum Barlow Archim Archinatus Winton 5 die
36    Maij Anno d[omi]n[o] 1617 Commissa [etc] fuit admi[nistraci]o bonor[um] omniu[m] e[tc]
37    dic[ti] de fuit Robto Drue iurat etc sonal__ saluoau_d
38    _______________
39    Roberto Drue Supradict[us] ________
40    _______ Rob[er]tus de Andever husband:
41    de Petrus Payne de ____ ____
43    Yeoman
44    Wrapper
45    1617
46    Agnes Blake viz [a vi]t
47    de Andever
48    de Charleton
49    5 die Maij 1617
50    An Inventorie of the goods and chattels of
51    Agnes Blake of Charleton widowe deceased taken by us
52    Edward Thurman of Charleton aforesaid gent, Willm Sweatyaple
53    of the same yeoman and Richard Twyne of the same yeoman
54    the second day of may in the xv th yeare of the raigne of
55    ye Sov[er]aigne Lord James by the grace of god King of England
56    France and Ireland defende[r] of ye fayth etc and of
57    Scotland the fiftieth
58    In the chamb[er]
59    etc (the inventory is in good shape but I will not transcribe it)

Friday, February 28, 2014

Will of John Blake, Kings Enham, Hampshire - Family Search film 186872, catalogue A-294, number 62, probated 16 Apr 1572

John Blake of Kings Enham identifies himself as the brother of William Blake, Robert Blake and Richard Blake. The appraisers refer to him as John Blake of Knights Enham. He identifies his children as Robert the elder, Robert the younger, John, Christopher, Jone the elder and Jone the younger, Dorothy and Margaret. Dorothy is the only daughter that he mentions as being under 21 years of age. Christopher is under 18 years of age. His wife is named Alice.

This is again a will from Family Search, Film  186872, Catalogue A-294, number 62.

Charlou Dolan has defined this family of John Blake as follows:

Robert Blake the Elder born after 1551 and died before 1605
Robert Blake the Younger born after 1551 and died before 1619
John Blake born after 1551 and died before 1605
Christopher Blake born after 1556 and died before 1614
Jone Blake
Jone Blake born after 1552
Margaret Blake born after 1551
Dorothy Blake born by 1561 and died before 1633.

Robert Blake in his will of 1542

http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2014/01/will-of-robert-blake-enham-near-andover.html

identifies his children as Robert, John the elder , William, John the younger, Richard and Thomas. Possibly this John does not mention his brothers John the younger and Thomas because they are living at Penton Mewsey on property of their own. He appears to be the first of the brothers to die. He is over 30 years of age because his father died in 1542 and he is the second eldest so at least ten years older than that. Charlou saw all of this John’s children as minors but I am not of that opinion actually. I do not think you can really say except for the two identified as being under 21 and under 18 years of age. I am curious if one of the Jone Blake entries is the wife of Richard Blake of Andover (my ancestors)

I wonder if William Blake the elder/senior is cousin to the testator (son of Nicholas Blake who left his will in 1547, William died in 1582).

Trying to put these individuals into some sort of timeline if one considers that Richard Blake is the husband of one of the Jone Blake. William (supposed grandson of Richard and son of Nicholas) died in 1582 and does not mention any grandchildren. All of his children appear to be 21 years of age in that he does not mention any guardianship. Likely he has grandchildren certainly his father Nicholas mentioned that William had children in his will of 1547 so William was at least 21 by the mid 1540s so born before his grandmother died in 1527 and his possible grandfather Richard in 1522.

Was Nicholas the oldest or was Robert? Jone mentions Nicholas first in her will and if he was the oldest (and now that I have read Paul Reeds take on the will of Richard I am no longer locked into the notion that Robert was the eldest) then Robert’s children may have been younger than their cousin William. So I am somewhat satisfied with my thoughts on this will and I am proceeding to the next will for these brothers. Thomas’s will, youngest of the children of Robert who left his will in 1542 is likely the Thomas Blake at Penton Mewsey leaving his will in 1597. That leaves Robert, William, John the younger, and Richard and the will of John the younger is perhaps the next will to be blogged. I am ambivalent as to whether the will of John at Penton Mewsey in 1593 is John the younger but Charlou Dolan has the will of John in 1587 at Knights Enham as John the younger.

I have again included the inventory as they are most interesting. I will likely be reviewing all of these wills a number of times and could find small changes to the text over time.

Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 21 Feb 2014
Source: Family Search Film 186872, Catalogue A-294, number 62 or Hampshire Record Office 1572A/07
Testator: John Blake
Place: Kings Enham, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 28 Mar 1572, probated 16 Apr 1572
Condition: 16th century English, legible copy

[Wrapper]: Johannis Blake de Kings Enham

1    In the name of God Amen The xxviij th daie of marche in the yeare of o[u]r Lord God 1572 I John Blake of Kings Enham
2    in the p[ar]ishe of Andov[er] w[i]thin the Countie of South[amp]t[on] being Sick in bodye but thancks be gevin unto Almightie
3    God in good and p[er]fect Remembrance doe make and ordaine this my Last will and Testament in man[ner] and fourme
4    ensuyinge First I Commit my Soule into the hands of Almightie god through Jesus Christ my Savioure
5    according to his holye woorde And my bodye to be buryed in the Churche yarde of Andov[er] to the will and pleasure of god
6    It[em] I give to the mother Churche of winchestere vj d It[em] I give to Andovere Churche iij s iiij d It[em] I give to the churche
7    of Knights Enham ij s It[em] I give to the poor people of Andover ij s It[em] I give to the vicar xij d It[em] I give to Robert Blake
8    the yo[u]nger my Sonn[e] one cowe, xx ti sheep to runn at leet, half a quart[e]r of Barley and half a quart[e]r of wheat to be
9    delyverid at michelm[a]s aft my decease It[em] I give to John my Sonn[e] one Cow, xx ti shepe, half a quart[e]r of Barley
10    and half a quart[e]r of wheat to be delyverid then also It[em] I give to Chrystover Blake my Sonn[e] one yong Cow, xx ti
11    sheep, half a quart[e]r of Barley and half a quart[e]r of wheat to be delyverid him when he is xviij ters years of age
12    It[em] to Jone Blake my daught[e]r one Cowe, xx ti sheep, one quart[e]r of wheat, one quart[e]r of Barley and four pounds
13    of currant Englishe money to be delyverid her at the daie of her maryage It[em] I give to dorythie my daughter
14    one Cow, xx ti sheip, one acre of wheat and one acre of Barley to be delyverid her when she is xxj ti yeares of
15    age, It[e]m I give to Jone my daught[e]r the yonger one bullock, xx ti sheep, one acre of wheat and one of Barley to be
16    delyverid her at the daie of her maryage It[em] I give to Margaret my daught[e]r one Cow, one bullock xx ti sheep
17    one acre of wheat and one of Barley, and my wyfe or ells my Sonn[e] Robart sen[ior] to have the use of the farme to fund
18    her, and use her honestlye, and yf they will not then I desire my overseers to appoint her to some other honest
19    man and to have the aforesaid Legacie w[i]th her to use her reasonably It[em] I give to Willm Blake my brother
20    v s It[em] my will is that yf any of my children decease before they be of Lawfull age, the same legacies
21    to be equally devidid amongst the Rest It[em] I give to each of my god Childrin iiij d It[em] I give and Bequeath
22    to Robart Blake my eldest Sonn[e] half my Carts, ij of my best horses, ij of my best kine, iiij or of my
23    best hogs xl ti sheep to runn at leate, and the p[ro]ffitt of the same yearly so th[a]t he wilbe a guyde to his
24    mother in her husbandrye and busyness and do her true service until suche tyme as he happen to marrye
25    and then to have hit and use hit as pleasithe him The rest of all my goods and Catailes moveable
26    and unmoveable not gevin nor bequethed I give and bequeath to Alice Blake my wyfe whom I make
27    and ordene my Sole Executrix to pay all my deabts and dischardge all Legacies by me so gevin
28    and bequethid And my overseers I desire to be Willm Blake thelder and Robart Blake my brother
29    I will to eache of them for their paines v s witnesses to this my last will and Testament
30    Edward Richards, Thom[a]s Haywood Willm Martin Thom[a]s Golding Willm Golding John Blake
31    p[ar]son of Knights Enham and he to have for his paynes v s It[em] mother Farnell and Thom[a]s Haiwood to have such of each iiij d
32    It[em] I doe owe unto Richard Blake my brother  x li x s vi d
33    Probatum p[er] iurium s[upra]scri[ptum] ______
34    cora[m] _____ Archici etc xvj
35    die Ap[ri]lis An[no] 1572
36    Comissaqu[e] fuit Admi[nistrato] executris
37    sup[ra]script[um]
    [Page 2]
38    An Inventorye made the viijth daie of Aprill
39    in the yeare of o[u]r Lorde god 1572 of all the goods
40    Catailes moveable or unmoveable of John Blake
41    of Knights Enham in the p[ar]ishe of Andover w[i]thin
43    the Countie of South[amp]t[on] Lately deceased in
44    the year of o[u]r Lord god aforesaid praysid by
45    Willm Blake sen[io]r Edward Thurman Roberte
46    Blake Edwarde Abbott and John Blake p[ar]son
47    Inp[ri]mis in the hall A table bowrde, A round table bourde, A fowrme, one Cubbard iiij or cusshins ij chaires, iij or platters, v potingers, iij saucers iij salt sellers, one chaphing dishe, v ca[n]delsticks one Andiron ij pothangings and the hangings about the hall one basin ij iron barres    xxix s v d   
48    It[em] in the kitchin iiij or Bras potts, iiij or bras kettills one frying pan, ij broches, one pothook    xvij s iij d   
49    It[em] in the Chamber, one fether bed ij fether bolsters, one flock bolster, iij Coverletts ij blancketts ij Testos, iiij or pair of sheets iij table clothes, iij pillowbers, ij pillows ij coats, ij pair of hosin, one dublett, iij shirts iij great chests, one cap one hatt ij coffers    lx s vj d   
50    It[em] one pair of shoes, and one pair of boots and speeres bridell and Saddill    v s   
51    It[em] iij Bedsteads one standing bedsted ij dosin of trenchers xij spoones, ij be of sever, xij dishes    xj s viij d   
52    It[em] ij sawes, iiij or rip hokes one Iron beam w[i]th other olde Iron stuff    vj s viij d   
53    It[em] in the barne by estyma[t]ion v quarters of wheat    iij li xiij s iiij d   
54    It[em] of Barley x quarters    iij li vj s viij d   
55    It[em] of Pie iij bz    iij s iiij d   
56    It[em] ij Iron bound carts    j li viij s iij d   
57    It[em] iiij or horses    l li   
58    It[em] the harness belonging to the same w[i[th wood roops and cart lynes    xxj s   
59    It[em] one Iron bar, one prong, ij bills and one ax, ij plowes, and plow gear, ij pair of plow irons others    xvij s   
60    It[em] of malt viij bz and ij bz meale    xij s   
61    It[em] iiij or barrels, iij _omells, iij pipes one a yruting vate, iiij kivers w[i]th other olde tubbes and ij bucketts    xij s vij d   
62    It[em] vij kine ij bullucks    vij li xiiij s   
63    It[em] of mothers, yewes, and teggs viij xx xvj    xx li x s viij d   
64    It[em] xij hogs great and small    xxxij s   
65    It[em] of wheat and futches xxxv acres    x li xv s   
66    It[em] of Barley, sarim  iiij or acres    xiij s iiij d   
67    It[em] iiij or calves    x s   
68    It[em] iij geese vj henns, ij cocks x ducks and malerds    viij s   
69    It[em] the woode and the ladders    xiij s iiij d   
70    It[em] in money    xx s   
71    It[em] in horse meat    xiij s iiij d   
72    It[em] one bread grate, one ladill, one busshell iij seeves, one seed leep    xx d   
73    It[em] xij acres of otes and peas in    xl s   
74    It[em] vij hogs hanging at Roust    xl s   
75    Sum total    lxxij li xj s x d   

Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Will of William Blake, yeoman, Perwell, Andover, Hampshire - Hampshire Record Office 1607B-11, probated 22 Sep 1607

The testator William Blake is rather interesting. Charlou Dolan names him as a son of Robert Blake and brother to Robert, John the elder, Thomas, Richard and John the younger. If correct he was the longest living of his siblings. He does name one of his brothers in his will as John but both of the Johns were already deceased at the time of his writing of his will.

See genealogy of the Robert Blake family by Charlou Dolan:

http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/2011/02/robert-blake-family-at-knights-enham.html

Interestingly John Blake the younger had eight children: Edward, Robert (deceased by 1601), Thomas, Nicholas (deceased by 1583 and his widow married Thomas Noyes), Elizabeth, Elline married to Robert Cannon and John. Dorothy Blake daughter of Robert Blake the younger (married to Elizabeth above) married (unknown) Thurman. I suspect it is more likely that this William is the son of John Blake the younger. To have been the son of Robert Blake who died in 1542 he would now be at least 65 if he was born the year his father died but that William was the fourth son with two to follow so would be into his 70s likely which isn’t impossible but I think unlikely although will know more when I read the will of Thomas the third son who died in 1597.

Matthew Canon was the son of Robert Canon and Elline Blake.  The only Christopher Blake I find is the son of John Blake the elder. Since they would be contemporaries by my way of thinking I suspect the godson may be a different Christopher Blake.

Names mentioned in the will:


William Blake, yeoman, Perwell, Charleton, Andover, testator
Joane Thurman
Eedith Thurman
John Blake, brother
Robert, son of  Matthew Cannon
Matthew Cannon
William Figges, god son
Richard Cannon
Christopher Blake, god son
Edward Blake
Agnes Thurman
John Hewett son of Edward Hewett
Edward Hewett
John Tomes the younger
William Sweeteaple the younger
Willia. Byrche
Agnes Blake, wife, executrix
Thomas Noyce, overseer
John Franncis, overseer

Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 5 Feb 2014
Source: Hampshire Record Office, 1607B-11
Testator: William Blake, yeoman
Place: Perwell, Andover, Hampshire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 8 Sep 1607, probated 22 Sep 1607
Condition: 17th century English, legible copy

[Margin]: 1607B-11

1    In the name of God amen I William Blake of Perwell in the Tything of Charleton in the
2    p[ar]ishe of Andever in the countie of South[amp]t[on] yeoma[n] in p[er]fect sense and memorye thoug sick in body
3    doe make and ordeyne this my last will and testament the viij t daye of Septemb[e]r in the yeare of our
4    Lord God 1607 in manner and forme following First I give and bequeath my soule into the hands of
5    Almightye God my powerfull creator hoping that for his sonne Christ his sake whoe hath suffered for my
6    sinnes hee will p[ar]don myne offences and receive mee into his glorious kingdome and my bodye to bee buried
7    in the church yard of Andever Secondly I give unto Joane Thurma[n] five shillings to Eedith
8    Thurman twentye pence unto John Blake my Brother six shillings and eight pence Item
9    I give to Robert the sonne of Mathew Cannon one bullock Also I give to William Figges my
10    God-son three shillings fowre pence to Richard Canno[n] three shillings fowre pence Ite[m] I give
11    to xopher Blake my god-son three shilling fowre pence to John Blake to Edward Blake
12    to Agnes Thurman to each of them three shillings fowre pence Also I give to John the sonne
13    of Edward Hewett three shillings fowre pence Item I give to the Church of Andever three
14    shillings fowre pence to the Chathedrall Church of Winchester six pence to each of my ov[er]seers
15    whome I appynte to bee my welbeeloved frends Thomas Noyce and John Franncis twelve pence
16    to each of the Witnesses of my Will six pence Item I give also to John Tomes the Younger one
17    bushel of wheate to Willia[m] Sweetaple the Younger one bushel of wheate to the sonne of Willia[m]
18    byrche twelve pence All the rest of my goods unbequeathed I give unto my Wife Agnes
19    Blake whome I make sole Executrix of this my last will and Testament In witness wherof
20    to those p[re]sente I have fullye and willing agreed and consented the daye and yeare above Written in
21    the p[re]sence of William Sweeteaple Edward Hewett
22    Probatum fuit testam[entum] suprascriptum in
23    forma coi p coram Thomas Ridley
24    Docter vecari ____ etc xxij die septembre
25    Anno d[omi]ni 1607 Comi ____ fuit admin ____
26    etc Agnes Blake vidua et executric etc
27    Salvo etc