Showing posts with label Neveu. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Neveu. Show all posts

Monday, June 6, 2011

Piché family

Emelie Piché married Antoine Renaud 5 May 1862 at Grenville and her parents were identified as Louis Piché and Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt in the Renaud Family post. Louis Piché and Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt's marriage of 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique.

 M 23 Louis Piché et Josette Benoit

Le trois sept le mil juit cent trente
neur après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite sans opposition aux
prones des deux paroissiales entre Louis
Piché journalier domicilié au cette paroisse
fils majeur de Louis Piché et de
Louise Perrault d'une part et Jo
sette Benoit fille mineure de Alexis Be
noit journalier et de défunte Charlotte
Beauchamp de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empeche
ment au dit mariage et la père de l'
____ y ai___ je pretre curé
soussigné ai reçu le mutuel consente
ment par paroles present et leur ai
donné la bénédiction nuptiale en pré
sence de Louis Piché père de l'époux de
____ _____ de Charles Piché
________ de
_____ Benoit ______
Lecture faite
F _orin Pretre

The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Louis Piché and Louise Perrault who were themselves married 6 Nov 1809 at St Benoit.

Le six novembre mil huit cent neuf après la publication de trois
bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes paroissiales par
trois dimanches consecutifs entre Louis Piché résident en cette
paroisse fils majeur de Pierre Piché et de marianne la
france ses père et mère de la paroisse de Ste Thérèse d'une
part et marie louise perrault fille mineure de Charles per
rault la be____ et de marie louise Normand ses père et mère
de cette paroisse d'autre part, sans découvir aucun empeche
ment ni opposition quelconque a leur futur mariage
nous soussigné pretre curé de cette paroisse vu le consentement
des parens a la _____ avoir reçu celui des parties contractantes
leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de
pierre piché père de l'époux, Basile Piché son frère
pierre payet, Charles perrault père de l'épouse, joseph
Norman ____ l'épouse, Charles normand son oncle
Jean Baptiste Normand son cousin et autres qui ont dé
clare ne savoir signer.
H Te__lix Pretre

The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Pierre Piché and Marianne LaFrance who were themselves married 2 Feb 1778 at Neuville (Portneuf).

Mariage p pichet et m anna lafrance

Le deux du mois de fevrier de l'année mil sept cent soixante et dix huit après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au prine des messes paroissiales
trois dimanches consecutifs entre pierre pichet fils de pierre pichet
et de marie Angelique Gignac ses pere et mere de la paroisse de la paroisse
de la sainte famille du cap Santé d'autre part et marie anna la France
fille de defunt francois lafrance et de defunte marie anna Bordeleau
ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part après avoir vu la certificat de monsieur
fillion curé du Cap Santé de la publication des trois bans de mariage en la
paroisse a trois dimanches consecutifs dispensé obtenu de Monseigneur
Levesque de Quebec du trois au quatorieme _____ de parents qui
le trouve entre les dits contractants ____ qu'il apparait par l'acte ___
n'aiant decouvert aucun autre empechement canonique n'y d'une
part n'y de l'autre nous avons reçus leur mutuel consentement
de mariage et leurs avons donnés la bénédiction nuptiale
selon l'usage prescrit par notre mère la Sainte Eglise Romaine
avec en presence de pierre pichet père de l'époux et d'adrien pichet
oncle de l'époux de louis gingras oncle de l'épouse
de plusieurs autres parents et amis les ____ ont signes les autres
ont declaré ne savoir signer de _____
marie lafrance [signed]
marie anna lafrance [signed]
jean gingras [signed]
louis gingras [signed]
fran_____
Charles T Bailly Pretre

The parents of Pierre Piché being thus identified as Pierre Pichet and Marie Angélique Gignac who were themselves married 10 Jan 1752 at Cap Santé. This marriage is in Tanguay as Pierre Pichet married to Marie-Angélique Jugnac. The parents of Pierre Pichet are named as Pierre Pichet and Scholastique Lesage who were married 24 Jul 1724 at Cap Santé (although Tanguay has only 1724 I did find their marriage lines). The parents of this Pierre are named as Adrien Pichet and Elisabeth Léveillé who were themselves married 22 Nov 1694 at Pointe aux Trembles. The parents of Adrien were identified as Pierre Pichet and Catherine Durand and they were married 25 Nov 1665 at Québec. Pierre's parents were married in France and he was born in France so he is the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.

Adrien Piché married to Elisabeth Léveillé is Generation 2. The present generation is also descended from a sister of Adrien named Marie Catherine Piché and she married Antoine Bordeleau 5 Mar 1696 at Neuville (Porneuf) and will also be in Generation 2.

Pierre Piché married to Marie Scholastique Lesage is Generation 3.

Pierre Piché married to Marie Angélique Gignac is Generation 4.

Pierre Piché married to Marie Anne Lafrance is Generation 5.

Louis Piche married to Marie Louise Perreault is Generation 6.

Louis Piché married to Josette Bénoit dit Vaillancourt is Generation 7. The present generation may also be descended from Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau 27 Nov 1837 at Ste Scholastique as their daughter Adélaide Piché married Jean Baptiste Nepveu 7 May 1860 at Grenville. I am still finding links between Jean Baptiste Nepveu married to Léa Audet dite Lapointe  and the above couple Jean Baptiste Nepveu and Adélaide Piché and Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau is Generation 7.

Emelie Piché married to Antoine Renaud is Generation 8.

The next research day for the Piché family will continue to collect source documentation.

Monday, May 2, 2011

Audet dit Lapointe Family

Léa Lapointe married to Jean Baptiste Neveu proved to be just as difficult as Jean Baptiste Neveu had been initially. I decided to look at her siblings from the 1871 Census. Olive Lapointe is a widow and living with her are four children: Cordelia 10, Léa 8, Hyacinthe 6 and Elie 3. In 1881 again Olive Lapointe is listed with Hyacinthe and Elie. A stroke of good luck finds Olive Richer (mother in law) living with Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Neveu on the 1901 Census. At St Hermas, Deux Montagnes in the Church of St Jerome, Olive Richer married François Audet. In both cases they were widowed but I managed to find their first marriages:

Olive Richer married Jean Baptiste Brunet 4 Nov 1842 at St Jerome and her parents were Bernard Richer and Adelaide Proulx.

François Audet dit Lapointe married Ursule Richer 19 July 1835 and his parents were Pierre Audet dit Lapointe and Geneviève Plouff.

Léa's parents were then François dit Lapointe and Olive Richer. It was a round about way to get around not having the marriage registration for Léa Lapointe and Jean Baptiste Neveu.

Looking at the Audet family in Tanguay, I did discover that Audet-Lapointe was included in his charting. However the marriage of Pierre and Geneviève was not listed. The marriage of Pierre Audet and Geneviève Plouff was celebrated at St Martin in Laval 29 Jan 1793.

Parents of Pierre Audet were Jean François Audet and Thérèse Létourneau and this marriage is listed in Tanguay 24 Jan 1763. It is at this point that I will start to pull the marriage registration scan. Using Tanguay the father of François was also François and he married Marie Madeleine Baillargeon 19 Nov 1736 at St Laurent, Ile d'Orléans. The father of this François was again François Audet dit Lapointe married to Marguerite Bernard 3 Jun 1709 at St Laurent. The father of François was Nicolas Audet married to Madelaine Després 15 Sep 1670 at Ste Famille, Ile d'Orléans. Nicolas was born in France and is the emigrant ancestor, Madelaine was a Fille du Rois.

I can now separate the images that I have into folders with Léa Lapointe being Generation 7.

As it turns out, there are two lines of descent from Nicolas Audet with the second being from his son Jean Baptiste Audet (Odet) married to Marie Louise Godbout 16 Apr 1708 at St Laurent. Their daughter Marie Magdaleine Audet married Jacques Asselin 12 Nov 1725 at St Jean, Ile d'Orléans. This information is recorded in Tanguay and will eventually be revisited when I look at the Asselin family. Marie Magdaleine Audet is Generation 3.

My task the next day that I look at the Audet dit Lapointe family will be to collect the marriage, baptismal and burial registrations.

Sunday, May 1, 2011

Ne[p]veu family

Marie Louise Eugenie Neveu married Joseph Louis Gabriel Marius Mourier 10 May 1909 at Ste Anne in Ottawa. According to the marriage registration

Le dix mai mil neuf cent neuf ne la displace
de deux bans de mariage et la publication
d'un troisième ban faité au prone de cette
paroisse par le Rev. J. A. Myrand curie de cette
paroisse, au prone paroissial, entre Gabriel
Mourier domicilié dans la paroise Notre Dame
d'Ottawa, fils majeur de Marius Mourier et
d'Antoinette Bertrand d'une part et de Eugénie
Neveu, fille majeure de J. B. Neveu et de Léa
Lapointé de cette paroisse d'autre part ne
s'étant découvert aucun autre empechement de
Publish Post

mariage, nous pretre soussigné avons reçu
leur mutuel consentement de mariage
et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale
en présence de J B Neveu and de Marius
Mourier

M[a]d[am]e Eugenie Mourier
Monsieur Gabriel Mourier
JB Neveu
M. Mourier
Albert Neveu
H.A. Patrice
L. Mourier
Mad[am] L. Mourier
Marie Louise Mourier
A. Mourier
H. Patrice
A. __nville
T. J. LeBlanc
B. Rocque
V. Legeault
B. Desjardins
L. Neveu

A.E. Richard Pr[et]é

I found all the family signatures to be an absolute gem to store away in the family tree. This establishes the parents of Eugenie Neveu as  the daughter of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe. The 1911 Census gives us April 1861 as the month and year for his birth and he was 50 years old. Locating the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe proved to be a difficult task.

Nosorigines is not helpful with the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu. Checking ancestry online trees I do not find any help with Jean Baptiste but Philomène Neveu has several trees with a brother Jean Baptiste and Alexandre. Alexandre is clearly at Pointe Gatineau and Adelaide (mother of Alexandre and Philomène) is on the census in 1901 living with Philomène. I am not happy with my decision to place Jean Baptiste in the Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché family of a year ago. I think that I need more information to make this attachment. On the 1891 census Jean Baptiste Neveu (married to Léa Lapointe) is a Grocer a general. It would be good to find Adelaide on this census. On the 1911 census she appears to be living on her own.

I read the 1891 census for Pointe Gatineau and found John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu with their two youngest children living about four units away from Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe and their family. Alexandre and his family were living about 10 units away from John Neveu and Adelaide Neveu. Can one conclude from such information (and they are the only Neveu families at Pointe Gatineau) that Jean Baptiste is a son of Jean Baptiste and Adelaide? It would be so nice to find the marriage. It does seem odd that Jean Baptiste and Léa would marry in 1882 with their first living child in 1885. The burial of the one child in 1882 would tend to make one think they married in 1881 or early 1882. We do know that Jean Baptiste is still living with his parents on the 1881 census in June. Looking for a marriage in the latter part of 1881 might be a good idea and I will do that on my next research day. I will not begin my generation folders for the Neveu family until I am thoroughly convinced that Jean Baptiste Neveu and Adelaide Piché are indeed the parents of Jean Baptiste Neveu married to Léa Lapointe.

Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Neveu and Lapointe families

Continuing with the Neveu and Lapointe families, I did find a baptism for Benjamin Nepveu son of Jean Baptiste Nepveu and Adélaide Piché with godparents Pierre Piché and Adélaide Tourangeau which incidentally happen to be the names of Adélaide's parents. The birthdate for Benjamin is 12 April 1861 at Grénville and as I check the census there is only a Jean Baptiste in this family (later on the census 1901) where he records his date of birth as 11 April 1861. I feel comfortable with saying that this is Jean Baptiste and that his name is Jean Baptiste Benjamin Neveu with his baptism 28 Apr 1861 at Grénville.

Finding the marriage at Pointe Gatineau does not prove to be an easy task. The microfilm is very poor first of all and secondly the notation in the margin for Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe is for a burial not a marriage. The date is 27 Mar 1884 I think. It would appear that pages may be missing from this register on the microfilm. Hopefully I will be able to look at another copy of this register at some point.

The tree on ancestry that gave me the marriage date also has a mention of Jean Baptiste's journals being in the archives at the University of Ottawa. I shall try to see them on my next visit to that archives. With his own words linking back, I shall be happier with these connections since I am unable to find their marriage myself at this point in time. Finding the baptism was rather interesting though and no burial for a Benjamin Neveu. It is not unusual to give a different baptismal name than the name that a child eventually uses.

I shall use this material with a mention of location so that eventually I will find the actual marriage lines for Jean Baptiste and Léa in 1882.

Proving Léa still has the difficulty of finding her baptism. I have found the baptisms of her older siblings but hers has evaded me thus far. She records her date of birth as 6 Mar 1862 on the 1901 census. Looking at their death registrations in Ontario will be helpful. The burial registrations do not list their parents names. The name Neveu is frequent enough that assuming the connection without the marriage lines is a little chancy - the journals should prove interesting perhaps in making the links.

I believe I may have located a problem with Léa's baptism. Her date of birth should be 1863 from the census and her burial record. The page that would contain her baptism at St-Hermas has an incomplete image. I have written off to Ancestry to see if they can resolve that problem. I shall await the results of my query for that item. Good find for me actually as I hadn't noticed that all but one census records her as born in 1863 (of course I looked carefully at that one!).

Continuing on with proving these lines and I think I shall spend some time sewing today.

Monday, February 22, 2010

Piché and Tourangeau families

Now proving the 3x great grandparents Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe, I have not yet found the baptism of Jean Baptiste Neveu although he states he is born 11 Apr 1861. I have found the baptisms for both of his parents. However the marriage registration for Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe at Pointe Gatineau 20 Sep 1882 is difficult to read and I am still working on that transcription. The parents I have taken from an online table but I am now trying to verify the information.

I did find the parents of Adélaide Piché from her baptism as Pierre Piché and Adélaide Tourangeau but would still like to verify the marriage of Jean Baptiste Neveu and Léa Lapointe before proceeding further back in time.

Since the biggest problem is finding the marriage of Jean Baptiste and Léa I decided to do some online searching and came across an interesting post to the Audet family message board:

In 1957, the Institut Généalogique Drouin in Montreal did our family tree. Innocent Audet mar.Reine Vincente, Nicolas Audet mar. Madelaine Després (1670), François Audet mar. Marguerite Bernard (1709), François Audet mar. Madeleine Baillargeon (1730), François Audet mar. Thérèse Létourneau (1763), Pierre Audet mar. Marie-Genevière Plouffe (1793), François-Audet Lapointe mar. Olive Richer (1852), Hyacinthe Lapointe mar. Angèle Grandmaison (1893), Delphis Lapointe mar. Catherine-Esther Villeneuve in 1922, Vital Lapointe mar. Pauline Richard (1947).

As always substantiating this online information is always a first priority but as I glanced back through the records that I have looked at already I am realizing that this claims there is a son François from the marriage of François Audet and Madeleine Baillargeon which does not appear on other people's charts. Working my way back from François Audet Lapointe married to Oliver Richer 26 Feb 1852 at St-Hermas is a good start back. I need to prove Léa back at some point and this will give me those details. I am still needing the marriage lines for Léa and Jean-Baptiste and will continue that search. The LDS must be going to put the registers for Point Gatineau online as they have the index set up. Hopefully they will be more legible than the ones on Ancestry at the moment. It is good having so many groups working on this material.

Perhaps by the end of today I will have proven the submission to the message board and learned a little more about the Audet dit Lapointe family.

Friday, January 15, 2010

Jean Baptiste Neveu family

I have been searching for information on the Neveu family for quite a while. I had good luck with searching finding them first on the census 1911, 1901, 1891, 1881 at Pte Gatineau PQ and then into the parish register for St François de la Sales at Pte Gatineau. This let me take them back a couple of generations leading me back to Grenville and St Benoit.

I decided to utilize the search engine of ancestry by breaking up the tree into four sections (each grandparent) and that proved to be highly successful as the search engine then selected records that fitted the data that I have on hand. I found at least 30 new items looking at the first branch of the tree. I make the trees private since my purpose in putting them up is to assist me in finding records. Eventually I will give all the information to our children to set up their own family tree webpage. That is probably a few years off as it will take me quite a bit of time to prove all of these lines.

Now I shall get back to proving the 3x great grandparents. I was getting bogged down trying to find particular marriages but using the Ancestry search engine has proven to be most successful. I also look at World Connect and do a Google search to see what other people have found as that is quite valuable in research as well I have found. Without family stories, researching family lines is quite difficult I noticed with my husband's research. Most of his family stories had been lost by the time that he started researching. Vague family lore about Dutchess County was about all he had to go on. His lines have been here since the 1600s with just one exception his great grandparents who came directly from Germany to New York and then up to Canada in 1846 and 1866 respectively.