Showing posts with label Horatio Gates Somerby. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Horatio Gates Somerby. Show all posts

Thursday, September 10, 2026

Forgot the Pincombe Newsletter for the 1st of September and a few thoughts on AI

The Pincombe Newsletter Vol 1 Issue 4 2026 is completed and uploaded to the website. Again it is very brief as I have not done any work on the Pincombe book for about six months but I will soon be back to it. 

One item I noticed when I am working with AI. It does tend to jump to conclusions and does not always read transcriptions carefully when I have passed them by the AI. Only once actually as I was seeking a second opinion on likely wording given this was ancient Latin material from the early 1500s, the scan itself very weak and hard to read. I also discovered that the personal account for Microsoft 365 does not permit you to maintain privacy on any uploaded documents. The other item with AI is the language tends to slant itself towards being right although I constantly correct it and suggest that jumping to conclusions too quickly is a mistake in genealogy. Thinking yourself that something might be a possibility doesn't hurt because you can always revisit it until you put it into a book that you publish and at that point it would need to be revised and republished if you want to change it. So I like AI but I use it more as something to bounce ideas off of and tend to stick to my own opinion as I have more experience than the AI. Its recall ability is huge but it does become confused with names that are all the same  which we all do but in particular I have noted that as a stronger weakness than in Homo sapiens where we have a familiarity it is easier for us to eliminate same names. Interesting really. I do think we always have to be in charge of AI controlling the output and always checking it for error. But it can do work in a marvelously short period of time but I did find some problems with that as well since it stripped out the formatting and did not maintain the order of the original. A very handy tool in the toolbox of people working however; one just has to maintain the instructor attitude so as not to be swamped by what looks like a stronger ability to recall. The human brain is much more flexible and doesn't, when working, drift off the topic with extraneous elements. But the recall is excellent for sure. Thinking on that the value of learning by rote continuing in our system of education proves itself with this very item; in order to always be the leader of a project one's recall needs to be excellent and so rote learning for young children continues to be high on the list of accomplishments in the younger years. 

Going to the dentist, I remembered my shoe bag as I had it hung from the coat rack (it always contains my indoor plastic shoes for going to the dentist which we stopped doing during COVID and just kept everything that was ours with us). Wow that seems like a long time ago now.  I actually think it remains a good idea to just keep all your belongings with you so a shoe bag is very handy for that although I did leave it in the rack. I think COVID was good training for how to prevent spread of illness although one would wish not to have had to go through all of that for sure. Much stronger again for sure now with all my rest, headaches finally lifted and today I shall do the front lawn and get that ready for fall/winter. Then the back yard probably it will take me at least ten days working about an hour at a time. I am 81 so must take my time, work slowly and carefully and not make myself a burden on the system. That is really the secret in universal health care that we all take good care of ourselves; the best that we can. 

At some point more work on Blake and I continue preparing this section for either the beginning of the genealogical chart or the last chapter before it. Time will tell but it is good to revisit it given my grandfather's thoughts and what I remember and also what has been written by genealogists in journals concerning the miss use of Nicholas Blake of Andover (will written 1547) by Horatio Somerby Gates in his fraudulent family books that he wrote for a number of families including Blake. Given that Horatio Somerby Gates did his work in the mid 1800s on though one wonders if the Blake Pedigree Chart did lead him astray as using Nicholas Blake the way that he did he must have been aware that William Blake (will dated 27 Jul 1582 and probated 14 Nov 1582) was incorrect in the Pedigree Chart although possibly not as it is much easier to find all this material now with the internet. Surprising how the clock turns really. 

Also I must continue checking out the possibility of finding subsidy information online for Andover although it will most likely wait until I go to the LDS Library here to look that up. 

Since I may be hitting a block with Blake I may switch to Pincombe for awhile and work on that book. It was a good idea of my daughters to do two books at once so that one doesn't get bogged down with one book only. Plus I am working on the fourty photo albums to get them down to a size that works well and doesn't include pictures that have nothing to do with our close family - like all the trips that Edward and I went on and such. I mostly turned them into Powerpoint Slide shows that Edward watched and watched along with looking at all the items that we purchased whilst on each trip. Each one was in a box and easily picked up and looked at when he watched the slide shows. I think my husband liked to relive his life often enough; he was a happy person we always found. He especially loves his daughters and became fond of his son in law and the pets that arrived in our home whilst they lived with us. Then along came his grandsons and they were truly the apple of his eye and he loved them dearly and they him. Still five and a half years later you can see the love still there in their eyes for him. He would have been such a marvelous grandfather at all their ages but ill health did rob them of him. 

Breakfast soon and solitaire games to play.  I continue reading the Book of  Esther today.

 

 

 

 

 

Wednesday, April 22, 2026

Looking back in time

This is the day to create the last section of the Somerby chapter and it will look at the work of Paul C. Reed a well known American genealogist who published in The American Genealogist (TAG), Volume 74, 1999 an interesting article namely: Two Somerby Frauds or "Placing the Flesh on the Wrong Bones. My husband Edward being a subscriber through his membership in the New England Historic and Genealogical Society (NEHGS) I was able to download the article. Earlier he had published an article in the New England Historical Genealogical Register (NEHGR) which ia also downloaded and it was about Dorothy _____,. The key in our search for Shadrack Hapgood. This was one of the families that Charlou Dolan researched along with Blake. Finding these two articles when my husband brought my attention to them sometime after 2004 when my interest in family history suddenly developed thanks to my cousin George DeKay wanting a Pincombe Profile for the book he was editing namely: Delaware and Westminster Townships (two parts), published by the Westminster Township Historical Society, November 2006. My thoughts were pretty much on the Pincombe family at this point and I put the two papers into a folder labelled Blake because I saw mention of the Blake family. I was still working full time in those days and started taking the courses to complete my Professional Learning Certificate in Genealogical Studies (PLCGS) which I did complete in 2007. As always my first thought was to acquire the tools to do the Pincombe Profile since my mother had just passed away in 2002 and my maternal uncle in 2003. My uncle had given a package of his personal papers to my husband to write up his story. My husband passed them to me after 2004 and said this is your job and I put them in a safe spot as I needed to go back further than my uncle. 

Interestingly it was me that said we should do our DNA with Sorenson - my husband somewhat ambivalent at giving the world the knowledge of his genes thought about it for quite a while actually but I went ahead and ordered two kits and waited until he was ready to do them. He was in a quandry about his Kipp line as Isaac his 2x great grandfather had been born in 1764 in North East Township, Dutchess County, New York just as the Revolution was about to begin. His parentage was unknown but he was married to Hannah Mead who appears very correctly to be the daughter of Jonathan Mead the Cooper III who was definitely a Patriot in this Revolution. They lived next door or with Jonathan Mead and family in the 1790 census. But I digress. I said to my husband the best way to prove a line is with yDNA and he was hooked and off the kits went to Sorenson and then into FT DNA they were transferred as there was a setup to do that. Lots more testing and we were into the DNA at its beginnings. DNA would fundamentally change how people did their genealogy - a genealogy without DNA is no longer complete but it did take about half of a generation to convince genealogists of this case. Edward and I did give lectures at various time on DNA in our area. My results had been fascinating as I quickly found literally many many Pincombe cousins both in the Utah area where I knew they had gone (my mother mentioned that) and all across Canada and into many parts of the United States. The first database I signed up for was the first time I used it basically. I searched on my Pincombe family that had come from Devon in the 1850s and discovered a likely family but hidden behind the paywall of Ancestry. It suggested that I could sign up for two weeks for free, I went for the membership and was soon in there with the passenger manifest and there they were, my Pincombes. It continued to amaze Edward as I spent all of my spare non-working time on genealogy as I had spent the first nearly fourty years of our marriage with no interest in genealogy except I did help him when we went to repositories where he wanted to find something interesting he had received from cousins around the world actually. Edward's correspondence list was huge.

So one day shortly after I submitted the Pincombe Profile to my cousin George DeKay, I sat down and read Paul Reed's papers and was astounded as I discovered that the bits and pieces that my grandfather (and occasionally my father) had shared with me as a child appeared in print in these articles. It was an amazing moment that spring of 2005 (the profile was due and it was promptly submitted on time for publication) and it was one day after gardening with Edward that I came in and read the papers. I was still working then full time and would be for another couple of years. Edward had retired in 2004. I had decided to join The Guild of one-name Studies and being the sort a person I am had selected three study names (Pincombe, Lambden and Siderfin). They were just very interesting names Lambden and Siderfin and Pincombe is obvious (I thought they were all small projects but actually much larger the second two and I have set aside Lambden for anyone to pick up. The Blake study had been held by Paul Blake and being such a newbie I would not have even considering attempting Blake for sure. But here it was all that information about Nicholas Blake of Enham and it fitted the stories my grandfather told me in terms of the fraud committed. 

Today I will read through those papers as it is a long time since I have done so. I will also add in the section on Paul Reed's paper into the chapter as it will complete it. 

I couldn't decide if it was the weather, all that rain, but my eyes have been very strained but today that disappeared although will not spend too much time on the computer as it is cleaning day three and the upstairs which does take a good portion of the day. No idea why the eyestrain really (perhaps reading the Latin which I was putting a bit too much time into) but our direction ahead as a country continues towards diversifying our trade and it is pretty much top of mind (I was listening to the Premiers of the Provinces talking yesterday). It is good to see and we will be an even stronger partner on this continent as we build up our military and work with the Arctic countries of the same mind as us on our common need to provide protection of the Arctic. I think our focus is good and we need to continue removing any trade barriers between the provinces as there are lots of items that we could be buying that are home-grown. Re-starting some of our lost industries should also be top of mind I think and certainly getting those shovels in the ground to do the work that needs to be done. I was actually not opposed to the province buying a new airplane (surprising perhaps) but this is a huge province and the Premier needs to be more aware of what is happening all over the province (the availability of transportation quickly and with sufficient room to bring people along with the Premier is important (providing potential investors and customers with such extras is always a good plan). This is a time of growth for Canada as we concentrate on supporting the world being a peaceful place but always preparing to defend that peace. History through the centuries has shown that the peacemakers win.

Drinking my tea and solitaire puzzles to do. Today is Earth Day. Thank you God for this beautiful world. 

 

Monday, April 20, 2026

Outline for the Somerby Chapter

 1. Review of the fraud committed by Horatio Gates Somerby

2. Who was Nicholas Blake who left  his will in 1547 living at Old Hall, Enham, near Andover

3. Will of Jone Blake, mother of Nicholas Blake 

4. Short Discussion

5. Will of Richard Blake (Latin translation to finish)

6.  Discussion on the work of Charlou Dolan with regard to the children of Jone Blake, in her case, namely Robert Blake (her ancestor)

7. Blake Pedigree (College of Arms) and Blake Chart (Blake Museum, Bridgwater, Somerset) and Edward J Blake

8. Increase Blake of Boston, his ancestors and descendants, with a full account of William Blake of Dorchester and his five children, author: Francis E Blake, Published 1898 at Boston, Massachusetts. 

9. Communications between Edward J Blake and Francis E Blake 

10. Sir William Blake of Kensington, to discuss

11. Paul Reed's papers

12. Thoughts of mine

To be used at some point in the genealogical descents

Nicholas, in his will, refers to the individuals who appear in the Berkshire Blake wills but this Robert does not in his will. I do have this theory about the Blake family in Berkshire being descendant of the le Blak family of Rouen, Normandy and eventually ending up in Calne as the founder Blake family there. Given their status I suspect that they were descendant of the Rouen Le Blak family which had come to England in 1274 to setup a market having received permission duly noted in the Calendar of Patent Rolls. That one finds the le Blak family at Wargrave near Windsor in 1301 is so very interesting and I suggest they gradually moved to Calne fascinating actually (just  need to prove it beyond a doubt). Socially speaking the Blake family at Calne were at the "top of the ladder" so to speak in the 1300s and they continue at that social level through several centuries at least until the disagreement between the Blake family of Calne (refusing to accept a knighthood from King Charles I in the 1630s (need to check that date)) and they were basically chased off from the Calne area it appears for their refusal. Their manor house at Pynhills was demolished.

 But I digress. It does make sense that they are all related in this time period as there are not a lot of records for the Blake family in the Andover area this early (i.e. early 1500s) and the frequency of particular forenames does tend to give one the impression that this is one family. Looking at the Calendar of Patent Rolls for Blake between 1323 and 1452:

Table 6: Calendar of Patent Rolls for Blake between 1323 and 1452.

Year

Issuing Body

Surname

Forename

Applicant Location

Reign of

1323

Faxfleet

le Blak

Simon

Hampshire

Edward II

1343

Westminster

Blake

Robert

Hampshire

Edward III

1352

Westminster

la Blake

Alice

Hampshire

Edward III

1352

Westminster

le Blake

Walter

Hampshire

Edward III

1352

Westminster

le Blake

Henry

Hampshire

Edward III

1389

Clarendon Manor

Blake

John

Hampshire

Richard II

1389

Clarendon Manor

Blake

John

Hampshire

Richard II

1392

Windsor

Blake

Thomas

Hampshire

Richard II

1394

Westminster

Blake

John

Hampshire

Richard II

1402

Westminster

Blake

Andrew

Hampshire

Henry IV

1405

Westminster

Blake

John

Hampshire

Henry IV

1421

Westminster

Blake

John

Hampshire

Henry V

1452

Westminster

Blake

George

Hampshire

Henry VI

           

The entries are rather interesting although do not in this list give the location in Hampshire but the presence of the le Blak in Hampshire most intriguing and the forenames of the family members also interesting. There are really not very many items in this list. As an aside the Le Blak family at Wargrave appears to move towards Hungerford and then Calne through the 1300s after they received the right to set up a market in England in 1274 (they were from Rouen, Normandy as mentioned). Robert, John, Thomas are all names seen in this Blake family at Andover. Alice la Blake is likely the daughter of Richard Le Blak (or a descendant) who applied for the license to set up a market. Alice la Blake is mentioned in the Pipe Rolls of 1301 at Wargrave. My thought is that she married into the family at Andover that then took on her surname as they did not have one which was pretty typical of the times in England at the end of the 1200s and into the 1300s. The advantages to  having a marriage between a Briton and a Norman are large for sure in that time frame.

So more thinking and considering the work of Charlou as I know she did a great deal of research but she did not have all the original wills for this family at Andover as I received only points from these documents from her. I do believe this is all the same Blake family (the la Blake family would be associated by marriage rather than being related) but will continue considering how to fit them together. Richard Blake does identify one of his sons as Robert and another son appears to be Nichi on the will which I interpreted as Nicholas (a daughter is mentioned but not names (she was Elizabeth)). I will continue looking at the wills to ensure that I have gleaned everything from them that is helpful.

Robert (he appears to spell his name as Blayke but I do not think he wrote the will himself as the writing in English at the bottom is not quite the same but I am not an expert for sure). Robert is the father of Richard who left his will in 1521 and he did name Thomas and Richard as his sons so it does make sense that Robert is the son of Richard since Richard mentions his eldest son Robert. But the ages of the children seem to be not quite as expected so need to review that. Nicholas' sons William and Edmund appear to be younger than the children of Robert although William did leave his will in 1582 (35 years after his father passed). I guess I am a knitpicker but perhaps we all benefit in the long run from the knitpicking!

An interesting book that I spotted early on in my genealogy endeavours:

Notices relating to Thomas Smith of Campden, and to Henry Smith, sometime Alderman of London; [written] by Charles Perkins Gwilt, a descendant of the family: London: Printed by George Woodfall. 1836

Interestingly Sir William Blake (Kensington) was one of the Trustees for the will of Henry Smith and there is a lengthy chapter preceding this one that I have reproduced from the original text. The book is primarily about Thomas and Henry Smith mentioned above and have nothing to do with the Blake story other than this brief profile of Sir William Blake which appears in the book mentioned above (published in 1836).

[Chapter Title] A short account of the Trustees appointed by Henry Smith in Deeds executed by him, as well as of the Executors and Overseers of his Will.  (Page 64)

This next paragraph appears on Page 68

Sir William Blake.

Mr. Bray, upon the authority (as he alleges) of the late Sir Isaac Heard, tells us that Sir William was of the family of Blake, of Seton Delaval, in Northumberland, which however was  not the fact. He was of a family of Easton Town, or Essington, in the County of Southampton (a), and was son of John Blake, of that place, by Margaret, daughter of William Blake, of the same place; he married Mary, daughter of Henry Beverley, of London, and Borne, in Yorkshire, and purchased Hales House, in Kensington.  He was a justice of the peace for Middlesex, and was knighted at Whitehall, 13th Oct 1627; he died 30th Oct 1630, and was buried in Kensington Church, wherein a monument, with a long uninteresting epitaph, was erected to his memory. The estate at Kensington was sold at his death. William, his eldest son, born in 1602, married Anne, daughter of Thomas Hawker, of Halesbury, in Wiltshire, Gent, and amongst other children, had issue, Christopher Blake, to whom, in 1665, the trustees leased for seventy years the Smith estate at Kensington, &c., which adjoined the Hale House estate. (b)

    Sarah the sister of Sir William [Blake], married William Rolfe, a trustee. Sir William was both a trustee and executor. [There is also a paragraph in the book mentioned above immediately following this one referring to William Rolfe which I will reproduce at the appropriate time.]

a   Ped. in Vis. Lond. 1690. K. 9. 381, in Coll. Arms. [Pedigree of the Blake Family created by the College of Arms for Daniel Blake in 1690 (a descendant of the same Blake line as this Sir William Blake)].

b   The following occurs amongst the Originalia of the Exchequer, Addit. MS. 6386, p. 2, Ro. XVI: Midx. De tertia parte de anno xv Jacobi primi  Rex concessit Willmo Blake gen et hered  suis imppm libam Warrena in omnibus Maner et terr suis in Kensington Chelsey et al