Showing posts with label Forgette dite Despatie. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Forgette dite Despatie. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 29, 2011

Labelle family

Lucie Labelle married Joseph Delphis Tremblay 4 Aug 1879 at Grenville and the parents of Lucie Labelle were identified as François Labelle and Marcelline Lacroix who were themselves married 19 Feb 1855 at Grenville.

M 3 François Labelle et Marcelline Lacroix

Le dix neuf Fevrier mil huit cent cinquante cinq après
la publication du un ban du mariage faite au prone de nos messes
paroissiales et la dispense de deux autre bans accordé par
Rd Monsigneur O'Malley curé de cette paroisse en vertu du _____
qu'il a reçu de la Grandeau Monseigneur Guigues éveque
de Bytown entre François Labelle fils mineur d'Antoine
Labelle journalier et de Clémence Poitevin de cette
paroisse d'une part et Marcelline Lacroix
fille mineure de feu Léon Lacroix et de défunte Marguerite
Forgette Ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous pretre soussigné
délégné du consentement des parents, avons reçu leur mutuel
consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédiction
nuptiale en présence de Michel Jammé dit Lamarque
et d'Antoine Labelle parents et amis des époux qui ainsi
que les dits époux ont déclare ne savoir signer

J David Pretre

François Labelle son of AntoineLabelle and Clémence Poitevinwho were themselves married 3 Jun 1834 at Laval.

M Ant. Labelle et Clémence Potevin

L'an mil huit cent trente quatre le trois juin après la publication du
trois bans de mariage aux prones des messes paroissiales des trois Dimanches
derniers entre Antoine Labelle fils mineure de Jean Baptiste Labelle
cultivateur et de défunte Louise Legault, de Ste Rosa, d'une parte et
Clémence Potevin fille mineure de feu Philibert Potevin et de Pauline
Valiquet de cette paroisse d'autre part meme publication ayant été faite
a Ste Rosa, comme il appert par le certificat de Messir Turcotte Pretre
en date du deux du dit mois, ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement ni formé
d'opposition, Je soussigné Pretre curé de l'agréement des parens ai reçu leur
mutuel consentement de mariage et leur ai donné la bénédiction nuptiale
avec les cérémonies proscrites par la Ste
Eglise en présence de Jean Baptiste Labelle frère de
Martin Migneron Beaufrère de l'époux de Jean
Baptiste Potevin frère de Martin Chalifou beau frère
 de l'épouse lesquels ont déclaré avec les époux, ne devoir signer

Mr Brunet Pretre

Antoine Labelle son of Jean Baptiste Labelle and Louise Legault who were themselves married 11 Jan 1808 at Ste Rose de Lima, Laval.

Mge de J Bte Label et de Marie Legeaux dit Délaurier

L'an mil huit cent huit le onze janvier après la publication de trois bans d'un mariage
faite au prone des messes paroissiales de Ste Rose par trois Dimanches consécu
tifs entre jean baptiste label fils majeur de feu jean baptiste label et de ma
rie josephte valiquet ses père et mère, agricultueur domicilié en cette pa
roisse d'une part et marie legeaux fille majeure de François legeaux
dit délaurier et de susanne joly ses père et mère aussi domicilieé en
cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement ni op
position quelquanque nous pretre curé de cette paroisse soussigné avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédic
tion nuptiale selon les formes proscriptes par notre mère la sainte
église catholique apostolique et Romaine et de consentement des dits
père et mère des contractants et au présence d'antoine d'a____ amiot
témoins de l'époux et de jean auimet amie et témoins de l'épouse et de plusieurs
autres parents et amis dont trois ont signé avec nous ____ce qui ainsi l'ordré
Lecture faite

bernard berdeau [signed]
Mth groyant d'amour [signed]
Luc Bélair pretre [signed]


Jean Baptiste Label son of Jean Baptiste Label and Marie Josephte Valiquet were themselves married 30 Sep 1771 at St Vincent de Paul, Laval. The priest has entered two marriages together in this section so I will transcribe both of them.

15 M François Danoyer et Louise Ouellet
16 M Jean Baptiste Label et Marie Josephte Valiquet

L'an mille sept cents soixante et onze le trente septembre apres avoir publié
trois Banes de mariage aux prones du grande messes paroissialles du _____
de part entre Jean françois denoyer veuf de déffunte geneviéve perron et marie
louise ouellet fille de louis ouelett et de marianne Qhimulaire de cette paroisse
entre Jean Baptiste Labelle fils de François Labelle et de déffunte et de
déffunte marie magdelaine vandendaigh et marie joseph valiquet fille de
déffunt augustin valiquet et de françoise chartrant aussy de cette paroisse
et ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement ny opposition soussigné curé
de cette paroisse ay reçu leur mutuel consentements de mariage et leur
ay donné la bénédiction nuptialle en présence de Jacques Paquet françois
nolla charles paquet et charles gathernan joseph vandendaighe franç label
augustin valiquet joseph alair qui ont déclaré ne savoir signé deu borgai
suivant Lord mariée
T Denoyer Pretre

Jean Baptiste Labelle son of François Labelle and of marie magdelaine vandendaigue who were themselves married 24 Nov 1738 at St François de Sales (Ile de Jesus).

I will carry on with the transcriptions of the Labelle family next research day.

Friday, June 3, 2011

Doutre Family

The parents of Josephte Doutre married to Olivier Gagnon 26 Jun 1844 at Curran were listed as Etienne Doutre and Victoire Lalonde in both the transcribed parish registers and the tabulated generations of the Gagnon family that I found at Library and Archives Canada. I have not seen an original copy of the parish register. However the baptism of Josephte Doutre is most helpful

23 Bapt de Josephte D'outre

Le neuf fevrier mil huit cent vingt sept, j'ai baptisé sous condition
josephte ondoyée née le cinq janvier dernier d'une mariage legitime de
Etienne D'outre cultivateur dans le township de Plantagenet sud _____
des _____ et de Victoire Lalonde, le parain ai été hippolite Damon
let, la marain Esther Pilon son épouse qui tous ne savant écrire.
M U_____ Pretre

The baptism of Josephte Doutre verifies all the information that we have for her; born in Plantagenet and the daughter of Etienne D'outre and Victoire Lalonde. This is not that common a name which is also helpful and Plantagenet was a relatively young area. However, it would still be nice to see the original entry. The Death Registration for Josette Gagnon read female, death date 2 Jan 1901 at age 73 on Lot 6 Concession 8 of North Plantagenent, annuitant, widow, Roman Catholic and born at Plantagenet and the informant was Felix Gagnon.

Etienne Doutre and Victoire Lalonde were married 4 Feb 1822 at St Michel in Vaudreuil and it was a second marriage for Etienne Doutre.

M Etienne Doutre et Victoire Lalonde 2

Le quatre fevrier, mil huit cent vingt deux, après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au prone
de la messe paroissiale par trois dimanches consecutifs
entre Etienne Doutre, cordonnier veuf en première
____ d'Angélique Lefebvre, de cette paroise d'une part
et Victoire Lalondes, résident en cette paroisse, fille
mineure de Benjamin Lalondes, cultivateur et de Franç
oise Bourbonnais, ses père et mère de la paroisse Saint
Joseph de Soulanges ou la meme publication a eu lieu,
d'autre part ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement a le
mariage avec le consentement des parents, nous pretre
curé soussigné avons reçu le mutuel consentement
des parties et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale
en présence de françois Doutre frère de l'époux et lui tenant
bien de père de joseph gauthier, son témoin de Marie Anne
Doutre, sa soeur de jean Baptiste Lefebvre, son beaufrère
de Benjamin Lalondes père de l'épouse de Rose Lalondes
sa soeur de Joseph Lalondes son grand père d'amable Lalondes
son oncle, d'augustin Lefebvre de jean Baptiste Boyer,
d'Antoine Leger, de Joseph Lefebvre de Rose Gastonguay
d'elizabeth Lalonde, de josephte ________
dont quelques amis ont signé avec nous et les autres avec les deux époux ont ____
re ne savoir signer. Jean Baptiste Levesque [signed]
Elizabeth Lalondes [signed]
Marie Julien [signed]
N Archambault Pretre

Locating the marriage of Etienne Doutre and Angélique Lefebvre 7 Feb 1814 at St Michel (Vaudreuil) the parents of Etienne Doutre were named in this marriage as Féréole Doutre and Cecile Forgette who were themselves married 28 Feb 1775 at Terrebonne. This marriage is listed in Tanguay and is the second marriage for Féréol. No father is listed in Tanguay but the marriage lines read

Mariage Foriol Doutre et Cecile Despatie

L'an mil sept cent soixante et quinse Le vingt huit
fevrier après la publication
des trois bans aux prones des grande messe Entre feriol
doutre part veuf de feue marie Louise Pilon de la paroisse
de vaudreuil d'une part et marie cecile depatie fille de
jean depatie et marianne menard ses père et mère de la
paroisse de terrebonne d'autre part et ne s'étant trouvé
aucun empechement a leur futur mariage nous pretre
soussigné curé de terrebonne leur avons donné la bénédiction
nuptiale selon les formes proscrites par la St Eglise
mère En presence de Gabriel C__villo_, J B duquet,
j B Despaties fils, Charles Labelle, Michel Courville, Angelique Duquet, Francois Menard
__________
ont declaré ne savoir signer

Proulx Pretre

I then located the marriage of Féréole Doutre and Marie Louise Pilon and according to one entry on World Connect this marriage took place 12 Oct 1761 at Point Claire. I located the marriage lines and Farriol Doutre dit LaRose is the name listed and his parents are named as Joseph Doutre and Françoise Soubriqué and Farriol Doutre has signed the register. Joseph and Françoise were named as being of the Diocèse de Perpignan [France]. Hence Féréole Doutre is the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.

Etienne Doutre married to Victoire Lalonde is Generation 2.

Josephte Doutre married to Olivier Gagnon is Generation 3.

References found online to Féréole Doutre:

En 1762, Roson a acheté plusieurs terres dans la seigneurie des Milles-Iles à la Rivière du Chesne (Saint-Eustache). Les contrats de vente semblent toujours indiquer que Roson n'a peu ou pas <> ses terres. Nous n'avons pas trouvé de preuves concrètes que Roson ait été militaire mais tout nous porte à le croire: l'époque de son arrivée en Nouvelle-France, son surnom typiquement militaire, ses relations...Piot dit Larose, témoin à son mariage, Balthazar Belleville, son futur beau-frère, Ferréol Doutre, mentionné plus haut, ce sont tous des militaires.

Source:  http://www.genealogieoutaouais.com/?spage=17&chrono=91

Fraser et Graydon feront parti du corps britannique commandé par le brigadier-général James Murray qui défendra Québec pendant l’hiver 1759-1760. Malgré la victoire française de François-Gaston de Lévis à Sainte-Foy le 28 avril 1760 avec les soldats Férréol Doutre dit Larose (régiment de La Sarre) et Léopold Rémi dit Bellefleur (La Reine), l’arrivée de la frégate Lowestoffe (capitaine Joseph Deane) le 9 mai 1760 (qui devançait la flotte du commodore Robert Swanton) déterminera le destin inévitable du Canada.

http://www.mount-royal.ca/heritage/index.php

Un Catalan en Nouvelle-France: Fariol Dutras alias Ferréol Doutre dit Larose, par Roland-Yves Gagné, Georges Ausseil in Mémoires de la Société généalogique canadienne-française. Présentation du volume no 54. Ce volume comprend 4 cahiers numérotés de 235 à 238. Il a paru en 2003.

Tuesday, February 2, 2010

Backing up material

I decided to back up my files yesterday and was somewhat surprised to discover that I have, in the last couple of weeks of researching our son-in-law's family downloaded 4 GB of images. Certainly my file system has greatly enlarged with 84 sub-folders as compared to just eight sub-folders a couple of weeks ago. Every folder has a number of images amounting in total to 4.44 GB. I haven't reached a point where I have any text documents in any of these folders - still gathering information from ancestry.

I have a couple of lines that elude me and I expect it will be a lot of parish register reading to find the items. I will go to Library and Archives Canada one of these days to have a look at the Family Histories that have been submitted to them. For the most part I have been working on virgin territory for many of his lines back into the late 1700s. At that point I am picking up work submitted to ancestry or world connect or family webpages that have assisted me. I continue to check out each reference but there is some really good work out there on French Canadian lines.

I also want to go to the Library at Ottawa University to check out their French Canadian historical material. I am still very new to French Canadian Research and do not know all the records available to me to work on his lines. He has many many marriages in Quebec City and Montreal in the mid 1600s. He has many many soldiers in his lines. The latest I discovered the other day was Féréole Doutre who arrived in the later part of the 1750s probably in the troop increase allotment due to the Seven Years War with England in which Québec was ultimately signed over to the English in exchange for colonies in the West Indes.

Féréole married Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie 28 Feb 1775 at Terrebonne. Finding Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie proved to be a challenge but fortunately the priest recorded the parents of both in the marriage lines.

Parents of Féréole Doutre were Joseph D'Outre and Francisca Sobraques married in France.

Parents of Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie were Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard (and this is the first record of the Ménard family in this family grouping). Jean Baptiste and Marie-Anne married 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille, Boucherville.

On the marriage registration of Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard the priest recorded the parents of this couple and it is here that the names switched (i.e. Despatie dit Forgette).

Parents of Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette were Jean Baptiste Forgette and Jeanne Beaudouin. Jean Baptiste and Jeanne married 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny.

Again I was able to extract the names of their parents from the Parish Register.

Parents of Jean Baptiste Forgette were Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie and Marie Madeleine Martin. Nicolas and Marie Madeleine married 6 Feb 1653 at Québec City and their parents were recorded in the Parish Register.

Parents of Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie were Paul Forgette and Nicole Chevalier of Alençon France.

Parents of Marie Madeleine Martin were Abraham Martin and Marguerite Langlois who were also married in France.

This repeats some of my post of the other day but I wanted to go through it all again and I find that easier to do on my blog so that I do not lose any of the details that I have collected. I work on so many lines it is easy to misplace details if I am away from one particular line for a few days or weeks. That was my reason to start blogging although the last couple of months I have blogged less frequently, I will likely go back to my daily blog once again.

Looking at the parents of Jeanne Beaudouin who had married Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny, the priest listed them as Jean Baudouyn and Charlotte Chauvin (born 5 Apr 1651 Montréal) and they married 27 Nov 1663 at Notre-Dame Montréal.

Parents of Jean Baudouyn were Jean Baudouyn and Jeanne Berthet.

Parents of Charlotte Chauvin were Michel Chauvain and Anne Archambault who had married 27 Jul 1647 at Notre-Dame, Québec. The priest had listed the names of their parents in France.

Michel Chauvain's parents were Gabriel Chauvain and Marie Arouard.

Anne Archambault's parents were Jacques Archambault and Françoise Toros.

Going back now to Marie-Anne Ménard who had married Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille Boucherville, the priest listed her parents on the marriage lines.

Parents of Marie-Anne Ménard were Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine and Marie Anne Février who married 12 Dec 1691 at Boucherville. The parents of this couple were listed on the marriage lines.

Parents of Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine were Jacques Ménard dit Lafontaine and Catherine Fovether (sp).

Parents of Marie Anne Février were Kristoffe Février and Marie Martin. I found the second marriage of Kristoffe a couple of years after the birth of Marie Anne Février 22 Jun 1676 at Boucherville. I have not yet found his first marriage with Marie Martin. This is the second Martin in this time frame Marie Madeleine Martin married Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie 6 Feb 1653 at Québec.

The Forgette family had eluded me for some time until I noticed the Despatie dit name and then I was able to quickly move back. I may attempt a look at the French records to see if I am able to learn anything about Joseph Doutre and his wife Francisca Sobraques parents of Féréole Doutre who arrived in New France towards the end of the 1750s as a soldier. He died 29 Mar 1824 at the Hopital général des Soeurs Grises in Montréal.

Again I am looking at the Olivier Gagnon line. He married Josephte Doutre (grand daughter of Féréole Doutre) 26 Jun 1844 at Saint-Luc, Curran, Prescott, Ontario. His death registration states that he was born at Berthier in 1811. I decided to have a look at the registers and found an Olivier Genton baptized there 17 May 1810 with parents Joseph Genton and Elizabeth Moreau. However Gagnon is quite aways from Genton I rather think. I shall have to continue checking. I also noted that in his burial lines the priest has mentioned that he was almost 90 years old when he was buried 13 Mar 1900. This would make the 17 May 1810 date quite interesting. But why would he change his name from Genton to Gagnon. Was it an enumerator error? Would Olivier had spoken with an accent that made Genton sound like Gagnon? Considering they would have been English speaking enumerators in the Plantagenent area this could be a possibility. However, I will keep it on the backburner whilst I hunt out other possibilities. Finding their marriage lines is a high priority since the priest would likely have been French speaking and would have spelled his surname correctly.

Saturday, January 30, 2010

Doutre family

Still working on the Matte-Gagnon family, I decided to continue working on Josephte Doutre as I was having no luck at all with Olivier Gagnon.

Josephte Doutre is named Josette Doutre on the census. She was born at Plantagenet ON 5 Jan 1825 and baptized 9 Feb 1825 at Montébello (the priest duly recorded that she had been born at Plantagenet which was most helpful). Her parents were Etienne Denis Doutre and Victoire Lalonde from her baptism and the marriage which I obtained online (can not find on ancestry yet) 26 Jun 1844 at Saint Luc, Curran, Prescott County, Ontario. Although I prefer to find the marriage, finding Josephte's baptism which agrees with the online record of Etienne Doutre as her father and Victoire Lalonde as her mother I decided to find their marriage. Etienne Doutre and Victoire Lalonde were married at St Michel, Vaudreuil 4 Feb 1822. She was his second marriage.

Parents of Etienne Doutre: Féréole Doutre and Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie who married 28 Feb 1775 at Terrebonne. He was a soldier sent from France in the late 1750s.

Féréole Doutre parents were: Joseph Doutre and Francisca Sobraques.

Marie Cecile Forgette dite Despatie's parents were Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and Marie-Anne Ménard. They were married 29 Oct 1738 at Ste Famille, Boucherville. I continued tracing back through the Despatie dit Forgette and Ménard families.

Looking at Jean Baptiste Despatie dit Forgette and his parents were: Jean Baptiste Forgette and Jeanne Beaudouin and they married 22 Nov 1700 at Repentigny. Continuing with the Forgette dite Despatie line, the parents of Jean Baptiste were Nicolas Forgette dite Despatie and Marie Madeleine Martin who married at Québec City 6 Feb 1653. Nicolas' parents were Paul Forgette and Nicole Chevalier who married in France. Marie Madeleine Martin's parents were Abraham Martin and Marguerite Langlois and they married in France. I need to find baptisms for all of these individuals.

Then looking at Jeanne Beaudouin's parents who were: Jean Baudouyn and Charlotte Chauvin. They married the 27 Nov 1663 at Notre-Dame, Montréal. Surprisingly the baptism of Charlotte Chauvin was 5 Apr 1651 at Montréal (which would make her only 12 years old so perhaps the baptism was delayed). Her parents were Michel Chauvain and Anne Archambault who married 27 July 1647 at Québec City. Their marriage records their parents as Gabriel Chauvain and Marie Arouard and Jacques Archambault and Francoise Toros (both recorded as parishes in France). Jean Baudouyn's parents were Jean Baudouyn and Jeanne Berthet (recorded as parishes in France).

Now to try and find Olivier Gagnon's line tomorrow.