Will of Peter Bodkin otherwise Peter Bodkin Blake, Town of Galway, Ireland - The National Archives PROB 11/1232, probated 4 May 1793

Peter Bodkin Blake’s will is below and the remainder of the files are letters that he wrote (annexed as codicils) and reading through them the only comments that prove to be interesting are the references to Sir Walter Blake (10th Baronet). These references do not add anything to my knowledge of the Blake family at Galway. I have only transcribed the original will, one codicil of six and the probate.

There are a number of Bodkin-Blake marriages in the Blake family at Galway.

Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 15 Feb 2017
Source:  The National Archives, PROB 11/1232
Name of testator: Peter Bodkin otherwise Peter Bodkin Blake
Place: Town of Galway, Ireland now residing in England
Type of Record: Will
Dated: 7 May 1787, probated 4 May 1793

[In margin] Peter Bodkin otherwise Peter Bodkin Blake

1    In the Name of God Amen
2    I Peter Bodkin commonly called Peter Bodkin Blake of
3    the Town of Galway in the Kingdom of Ireland but
4    now resident in England Gent do make this my last
5    Will and Testament in my own handwriting in
6    manner following that is to say Declaring that I
7    am a Protestant having duly conformed to that
8    Religion in the said Kingdom of Ireland I order
9    that my Body may be decently buried in the Parish
10    wherever I may die and as to such worldly Substance
11    as God has Pleased to bless me with I hereby dispose
12    of the same in manner following my just debts
13    and Funeral expence being first paid (that is to say) I
14    Give unto my Brother Francis Bodkin one shilling I
15    give unto William Greny Son to Thomas Greny of
16    Greginore in the County of Galway in Ireland deceased
17    my Bed and every thing else of mine which shall be
18    in my apartment in the said Town of Galway I
19    Give unto my Nephew and Niece Nicholas Brown and
20    his Sister Jane Brown one shilling each I Give unto
21    my two Nephews Ambrose Bodkin and Hyacinth Bodkin
22    of Kilbroge in the County of Galway in Ireland one
23    hundred pounds each of English money to be paid to
24    them respectively without Interest by my Executors herein
25    after named at their respective ages of twenty one
26    years but not sooner than two years next after my
27    decease and I direct that in case either of my said
28    two Nephews Ambrose and Hyacinth Bodkin shall
29    die before he shall attain the age
30    of twenty one years or sooner than two years next
31    after my decease the share of him so dying shall go
32    to the survivor of them payable also without Interest
33    at the age of twenty one years but not sooner than
34    two years next after my decease and in case both
35    my said Nephews shall die under the said age of
36    Twenty one years or sooner than two years next
37    after my decease I do give the said two several sums
38    of one hundred  and one hundred pounds unto my
39    worthy friend William Pollard of St Swithins Lane
40    London Merchant to whom I owe infinite obligations for
41    the Singular Services he has rendered to me I Give
42    unto my said Nephew Hyacinth Bodkin his heirs
43    Executors and administrators my two Leasehold houses
44    in the West Sabbt of Galway the one in the occupation of
45    Bartholomew Kelly and the other in the occupation of
46    Thomas Bursee he paying the Rent reserved by and
47    performing the covenants on the Tenant or Lessees part
48    contained in the Lease under which I hold the same
49    I Give unto Mr John Cologan of London Merchant
50    one of the Parties in trade with the said William
51    Pollard One hundred pounds Sterling to be raised and paid
52    to him within two years next after my decease and
53    I direct that the said Legacies to my Nephews Ambrose
54    and Hyacinth Bodkin and John Cologan amounting
55    together to three hundred pounds Sterling shall be
56    raised when payable by Sale of One hundred and
57    forty two pounds of the Capital Stock of the English
58    United East India Company which shall be standing in
59    my Name at my decease and the deficiency that may
60    be to make up or compleat the said sum of three hundred
61    pounds I direct that the same shall be raised out of
62    the Dividends of my said East India Stock which shall
63    become due after my decease and as to the residue of
64    the said East India Stock I direct the same shall continue
65    Standing in my Name so long as the said East India
66    Company shall exist and that the dividends to arise
67    thereby During the life of the said William Pollard
68    shall be received by him for his own use and after his
69    death the said dividends shall belong to such persons
70    as he shall by Will direct and in default of such
71    direction to his Executors or Administrators I direct that
72    the sum of three per cent Consolidated English Bank
73    Annuities which shall be standing in my name at my
74    decease shall continue standing therein during the existence
75    of the said Fund and that the dividends to arise thereby
76    during the life of my good friend Mr James Cooper the
77    other partner in trade with the said William Pollard
78    shall be received by him the said James Cooper for hi
79    own use and after his death the dividends of the said
80    Bank Annuities shall belong to such persons as he
81    shall by Will direct and in default of such direction then
82    to his Executors or Administrators I Give unto my said
83    Nephew Ambrose Bodkin his Executors and Administrators
84    a debt due from Richard Martin of Galway or Kentville
85    in the County of the Town of Galway aforesaid which
86    stand Secured by a Bond and Warrant of Attorney dated
87    respectively the Twenty second of January One thousand
88    Seven hundred and Eighty one to me for One hundred
89    and Twenty three pounds two shillings Sterling with all
90    the Interest that may be due thereon at the time of
91    my decease and as to all the residue of my Estate and
92    Effects whatsoever and wheresoever and of what nature
93    or kind soever as were real or personal I Give devise
94    and Bequeath the same unto the said William
95    Pollard his heirs Executors Administrators and Assigns
96    and to and for his and their own use and benefit
97    and in case the said John Cologan William Pollard
98    and James Cooper or any or either of them shall
99    refuse or decline to accept of any or either of the
100    Legacies and Bequests in this my Will give to
101    them as aforesaid then it is my will and desire and
102    I do hereby Give and Bequeath such of the said
103    Legacies as shall be so refused unto the Treasurer for
104    the time being of Greens Hospital to be applied by
105    him towards the support of the Seaman belonging to
106    the said Hospital and I do hereby constitute and appoint
107    the said William Pollard and James Cooper Executors of
108    this my Will and in case they shall both refuse
109    or decline the Execution of this my Will
110    then I appoint the Treasurer for the time being of
111    the said Hospital Sole Executor of this my Will
112    and revoking all former Wills by me at any time
113    heretofore made I do publish and declare this to
114    be my last Will and Testament in Witness whereof
115    I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this Seventh
116    day of May One thousand Seven hundred and Eighty
117    Seven Peter Bodkin Blake Signed Sealed
118    published and Declared by the said Peter Bodkin Blake
119    the Testator as and for his last Will and Testament in
120    the presence of us who in his presence at his request
121    and in the presence of each other have thereto set
122    our Names as witnesses thereto Iona Thompson
123    J[onathan] Bugg Sarah Grant
124    Messrs Cologan Pollard and Hooper Galway the 30th May 1791
125    Gentleman I received your most esteemed favour of 9th
126    July last you insist I should let you know the
127    charge on the Bill on Curly It was wrote on the
128    protest thereof 6 shillings and 6 pence Irish making 6 [shillings]
129    English money with which I debit account I am
130    heartily sorry for the death of our mutual very good
131    friend Mr John Thompson Tis well he sent you my
132    Will previous to his death I am glad you think any
133    alteration I Will by Letter make in said will is binding
134    according to Law I beg you’l open and read said Will
135    Hyacinth Bodkin ye younger Brother of Ambrose
136    Bodkin mentioned in said will died in Dublin in Sep
137    last aged about 19 years and a half owing to his folly
138    and debauching and his Mother giving him too much
139    money tho he had a very strong constitution and the
140    older Brother Ambrose Bodkin came of age the 12th
141    Feby last who has a weak constitution yet he
142    follows as debauched a life as his said Brother
143    therefore tis thought he will  not live many years
144    unfortunately he take pleasure in boasting he can
145    bear drinking 3 or 4 bottles of wine after dinner
146    which he frequently does Soon after he came of age
147    I wrote him a Letter stating how I had a demand
148    to his and formerly my deceased Fathers Estate of £500
149    pds or by my giving Credit for £200 I received from my
150    Father for my age of 17 years to my age of 21 years in small payments in
151    that there remained at least 800 pds due to me as
152    the remainder of my childs portion this letter was
153    delivered to him by my Sister in Law his Mother who
154    thought my demand just and reasonable he did not give
155    her or to me a satisfactory answer therefore he shall
156    get no Legacy by me I hereby order desire and will that
157    the two hundred pounds sterling and everything else
158    which I willed and ordered for my Nephews Ambrose
159    and Hyacinth Bodkin in my said Will be given to Mr
160    William Pollard one of the Executors to my said Will
161    or to his issue or heirs payable in like manner as I
162    had ordered and willed it to be paid to my said
163    Nephews Ambrose and Hyacinth Bodkin I beg you’l
164    not answer this Letter directed to Galway for fear your
165    Letter should be opened by mistake as I would chuse
166    to keep this affair secret I intend soon to go to
167    Dublin from where I will write in form to Mr
168    William Pollard and to Mr James Cooper Executors to
169    my said Will I now write you this alteration in my
170    said will for fear death or my accedance should
171    happen me in my journey to Dublin I have this
172    day drawn a Bill on you at 21 days sight in
173    favour of the Right honourable David Larouche and Co for
174    £57 pounds which I entreat you’l please to honor
175    being on account of one years dividends due to me
176    last Xmas on my £512 pds etc India Stock and also on
177    my £500 pds Stock in the Bank Consolidated Annuities
178    I hope the dividends continued at 8 per cent on the
179    India Stock notwithstanding the great War at present
180    in the East Indies my next Letter to you or to the
181    Executors of my last Will I hope will be soon from Dublin
182    In the Interim I am most affectionately Gentleman
183    your most obedient humble Servant Peter Bodkin Blake
184    P.S. I say the Bill I have drawn on you this Day is
185    for fifty Seven pounds Sterl: Galway the 30th May
186    1791 Peter Bodkin Blake
187    This Will was proved at London with Six
188    Codicils the Fourth day of May in the year of our Lord
189    One thousand Seven hundred and Ninety three before the
190    Worshipful John Fisher Doctor of Laws Surrogate of the
191    Right honorable Sir Willian Wynne Knight and also Doctor of
192    Laws Master Keeper or Commissary of the Prerogative
193    Court of Canterbury lawfully constituted by the oaths of
194    William Pollard and James Cooper Esquires two of the
195    Executors named in the Fourth Codicil to whom Administration
196    was Granted of all and singular the Goods Chattels and
197    Credits of the deceased having been first sworn duly to
198    administer power reserved of making the like Grant to
199    John Cologan Esquire the other Executor named in the
200    fourth Codicil when he shall apply for the same

Visitation of Devon 1564, 1620 and 1620 with additions

The Visitations of Devon in 1564 and 1620 can be found online. The page for Pincombe from Visitation of Devon for 1620 with additions I have also now found it online at Family History Archive. I have never found the Pincombe/Pyncombe/Pencombe family in the 1564 Visitation which lends credence to the idea that they became "known" because of the marriages that they made in the late 1500s and early 1600s namely, William Pincombe at East Buckland marrying Temperance Pollard (grandaughter of Sir Lewis Pollard (Judge)) and John Pincombe of Southmolton marrying Amy Doddridge (nephew was Judge Doddridge).

I have mostly been paying attention to the 1620 with additions Visitation and and failed to note that the original 1620 Visitation has the sons of the first Pincombe at North Molton in 1485 as Thomas, John and forename unknown. I wonder if there is an error in the revised 1620 Visitation with additions. The children if any of the unknown Pincombe are not listed and most interesting John and Christopher Pincombe of Southmolton are both listed as sons of John rather than having two John Pincombes with each having one son namely John with John and John with Christopher which is how the Revised Visitation reads.

There is a plus and minus to this relook at the original 1620 Visitation. I still have this gap of years and a more positive note that John and Thomas were indeed brothers and not half-siblings. It would be interesting if the wife of the first John Pincombe could be found. Was the third son William? Since these Visitations are in the public domain I shall place a copy in this blog as images.

1620 Visitation (original)

1620 Visitation (original)

The 1620 Visitation with additions has the change in the first generation sons:

1620 Visitation (Family History Archive)

The original 1620 Visitation certainly puts a different focus on the Pincombe family with respect to the first Pincombe at North Molton. Could one conclude that there was only one John Pincombe brother to Thomas in the second generation? Finding the names of the wives of John and Thomas and the unknown sibling would be a great next step in looking at this family in the early 1500s. (The will of Johane Pencombe does appear to make her the wife of Thomas.) There is always the possibility that the first Pincombe at North Molton came as a young page with Lord Zouch. That is a thought that has recently crossed my mind. He could be a young lad of ten or twelve years of age which would make the time frame more reasonable with respect to the time at which his children were born and likely married. Although I have looked at the original 1620 Visitation several times in the past it shows how you can miss items the first time through. I got into the habit of using the 1620 with additions because I had it as an *.pdf. I have now downloaded the two pages of the original 1620 as images.

While I have the family history archive site open looking at the original 1620 Visitation I shall check out some of my other Devon lines.Although this revised 1620 Visitation with additions is interesting, it is the old story of being wary of copied material. My decision to go back and look at the earlier original Visitations may have saved me a few hours of thought in the direction of the first Pincombe at North Molton having married twice :)
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Will of Temperance Pincombe dated 7 Mar 1636 (probated 15 Jun 1637) - PROB 11/174 - Image Reference 379/332

The will of Temperance Pincombe identified the exact same children as the will of her husband William Pincombe so John Pincombe at Oxford and son of William Pincombe of Filleigh is not part of this family. Discovering that family line may be possible only with the Manor Records - a project for the future.

Temperance also mentions the Rashleigh family. Her husband William identified Christopher Rashleigh as his cousin. In my googling of the Rashleigh and Pincombe families as a + unit I discovered a fifteen page writeup in Devon Notes and Queries which I have captured to read through. This particular article (117. Rashleigh of Devon. Devon Notes and Queries, Volume IV, Part VI, April 1907. James G Commin Exeter (Pages 201 - 215)) refers to the Pincombe family into which Christopher Rashleigh married into on 17 Jan 1601 as follows:

"In the Parish Registers of Southmolton
occur the following entries: "January, 1601,
Christopher Rashleigh maried (sic) An Pinekome, the 17."
Baptisms. 28th November, 1602, Dorothie, the daughter of
Christopher Rashley ; 26th September, 1606, Susanne, the
daughter of Christopher Rashlye ; 2oth May, 1611, Elizabeth,
daughter of Christopher Rashley; 26th May, 1621, Dorothie,
the daughter of Christopher and Anne Rashlye ; ist September,
1625, Temperance, the daughter of Mr. Christofer
Rashleigh. Burials. 3oth May, 1619, Dorothy fil., Mr.
Rashley ; i8th July, 1620, Cicell, the daughter of Christopher
Rashley; 2oth April, 1631, Dorothy Rashly.
Ann Pincombe whom Mr. Christopher Rashleigh married,
belonged to an armigerous family connected with Southmolton
and its neighbourhood, commencing in the Visitation of 1564
with " Pynecombe, of Northmolton, who came thither
with the Lord Zouch about the beginninge of the raigne of
K. Henry 7th." Her youngest daughter Temperance was
presumably called after Temperance, daughter of Hugh
Pollard, and great granddaughter of Sir Lewis Pollard the
Judge, who married William Pynecombe, of Southmolton
and East Buckland, one of the Coroners of Devon ; from
which we may perhaps conclude that Anne Rashleigh was a
sister of this William, and a daughter of William Pynecombe,
of Filley and East Buckland, who married a daughter
of Snowe, of Anstey."

From William (of Filley and East Buckland married to Emmote Snow)'s will (my blog dated 30 Jul 2011) his children were identified as John, William, Symon, Richard, Thomas, Lewis, Peter, Johane and Katherin. The birth date of William (second eldest son) was identified from the Visitation of Devon 1620 as 1566. The two daughters are not identified as married however and this will was written 20 Dec 1602. Why would he not have identified his daughter Ann if he had one as married to Christopher Rashleigh? How old were Johane and Katherine his identified daughters. He doesn't list any of his children as under 21. The second eldest son William is identified in the Visitation of Devon of 1620 as being 54 years of age and hence born in 1566. William (second eldest son) is then 36 at the time of the writing of the will. William (died 1602) in his will does identify two of his sons with children (John with three daughters and Richard with one son (my ancestor)). He does use the term "accomplishe one and twentie yeares of age" with regard to a legacy to Elizabeth Colliscotte so presumably his children are all over 21.

His son William (married to Temperance Pollard)'s will (see blog 12 August 2011) identifies Christopher Rashleigh as his cousin. If he was married to his father's sister then he would have been his uncle. The relationship is somewhat more distant but still congenial in that Temperance Pincombe (wife of this William (will dated 1625)) refers to one of the daughters of Christopher Rashleigh and Ann Pincombe (as listed above).  I do have the Parish Registers for South Molton and eventually will transcribe them. Since she is related to the family with the coat of arms then that places her into the family of John Pincombe merchant at South Molton. Surprisingly she does not appear on the Visitation of 1620 but also I did not find an individual page for the Rashleigh family in the 1620 Visitation of Devon. 

It doesn't really seem logical not to even mention the Rashleigh family if his daughter Ann married Christopher Rashleigh. Since Ann was descended from the line with the armorial bearings than it must be John Pincombe's line at South Molton and the wills appear earlier on my blog (1 August 2011 and 4 August 2011). This is the line that received the armorial bearings from the College of Arms but that must be earlier than the 1616 listed on the Chart from the earlier researchers unless the author of this Rashleigh article, James C Marshall, was mistaken in listing her as being descended from the Pincombe family with the armorial bearings. In later years it would appear that she was thus descended because the line did receive a coat of arms. Obviously I need to learn more about the Coat of Arms of the Pincombe family.  That may lead me to the parents of Ann Pincombe married to Christopher Rashleigh.

The will of Temperance Pincombe follows:

Recorded: 13 August 2011
Source: Public Record Office, London, UK, PROB 11/174 - Image Reference 379/332
Place: South Molton, Devon, England
Type of Record: Will
Dated: 7 Mar 1636  (probated 15 Jun 1637)
Condition: photocopy, fairly clear, light, old English writing

[in margin] T[estator] Temperance Pincombe


1    In the name of God Amen the Seaventh day of March
2    in the yeare of our Lord God one Thousand sixe hundrede thirtie sixe I Temperance
3    Pincombe of South Molton in the Countie of Devon widdow being sick of body but of perfect
4    remembrance thanks be to Almighty God doe make this my last will and Testament in
5    manner ande forme following that is to saie First I bequeath my soule to Almighty God my
6    maker and Redeemer trusting by the meritts and mercies of Jesus Christ to obteyne everlasting
7    bliss in the world to come And my body in hope of a glorious resurrection I comitt unto
8    Christian buriall in the Church of Southmolton aforesaid Item I give unto Mr. John Corin
9    Twentie shillings and I give towardes the repara[t]ion of the Church of Southmolton Tenne
10    shillings Item I give to the poore people of Southmolton foure poundes to be distributed
11    amongest them on the day of my buriall Item I give unto William Pincombe my sonne
12    and Bridgett Pincombe my daughter in lawe fortie poundes And unto Elizabeth Pincombe
13    Bridgett Pincombe and Temperance Pincombe my Grandchildren severallie twentie poundes and
14    one payre of sheets a peece to be paid unto them by my executor hereafter named and by him to be
15    employed for them till it shall please god that they be maryed or doe accomplishe the age of one &
16    twentie yeares And if either of them shall dye before that tyme then such her por[t]ion shall
17    remayne amongest the rest that shall survive Item I give unto Alice Pollard my kinswoman
18    Fourtie shillings unto Sara the daughter of Johane Hill Tenne shillings and one sheepe, unto
19    Samuell Tucker and his three daughters fortie shillings to be devided equally amongest them
20    unto Elizabeth the daughter of Mr John Coren Tenne shillings unto Susan Morrell Twentie
21    shillings unto her sonne John Morrell Tenne shillings unto Grace Rashley twentie shillings unto
22    Temperance Rashley Twentie shillings and one sheepe and unto Katherine Rashleigh Tenne shillings
23    Item I give unto Elizabeth Bidgood my servant Tenne shillings unto Baldwin Wilce Twentie
24    shillings unto Johane the wife of Humfrey Buckingham Twentie shillings unto Mary Hill
25    Twentie shillings unto Johane Thorne fortie shillings unto Christian Mogford my servant
26    Tenne shillings and unto Nicholas Hunt Tenne shillings The rest of all my goodes & chattells
27    not before given I give and bequeath unto William Pincombe my Grandchild And I make
28    him my whole and sole executor of this my last will and Testament And my intent is that
29    my said sonne William Pincombe shall have the whole managing of my estate for the good
30    of my executor And I desire Henry Worth Es[quir]e Mr. John Worth and Mr. Christopher
31    Rashley to see this my last will performed and to that end I make them my Overseers; In
32    witnes, whereof I have hereunto sett my hande and seale. Signed d[__]ie Temperance
33    Pincombe [signed] Signed and sealed in the presence of Christopher Rashleigh [signed] Bald[wi]n Wilce [signed]
34    Anne Badcock [signed]

Noteworthy in this will, the references to Grace Rashly, Temperance Rashly and Katherine Rashleigh does not entirely fit the names of the children of Christopher and Ann Rashleigh mentioned in Devon Notes and Queries quoted above (notably the names were:  Suzanne, Elizabeth and Temperance Rashleigh.

I have managed to miss one will in all of this that I had meant to do and this will is for the father of Bartholomew Pincombe of North Molton (see blog of 7 August 2011). Part of the reason for this is the desire on my part to work on the Richard Pincombe of Poughill will and the misinformation that entered into the earlier Pincombe study. Richard of Poughill did not have any children but Richard of Chittlehampton did marry Jane Bond and they did have children at Chittlehampton. The Pincombe family of Poughill does not appear at Chittlehampton. The Richard Pincombe at Chittlehampton is a son of Bartholomew Pincombe of North Molton.

Working on the Thomas Pincombe will means working on the Parish Registers of North Molton for which I have six fiche. The nights are starting to darken and the days less bright so I can start to feel the time of heavy transcription coming on. North Molton was certainly in my line of vision but tended to keep getting passed by in favour of my Blake one name Study. I shall commence the registers for North Molton before I transcribe the will of Thomas Pincombe at North Molton (written  8 Nov 1651 and probated 20 Sep 1653).This Thomas (by age) does have the potential to be a first cousin of my Richard Pincombe who died in 1648 at Bishops Nympton. Thomas Pencombe of Filleigh and East Buckland (and Johane his wife presumably) were said to have had five children: William (d 1602 of Filleigh and East Buckland) married to Emotte Snow, John of North Molton married to Emet Hodge 1 Jul 1560 at North Molton, Alice married to John Lock 29 Nov 1561 at North Molton, Richard (had a son Thomas and a daughter Helen who married Mathew Goule 19 May 1617 at Chittlehampton) and an unknown daughter who married John Jesse (sp) and had a son John Jesse.

Willl of William Pincombe dated 28 Jun 1625 - PROB 11/147 - Image Reference 501/397

The Visitations of Devon for 1620 and 1686 do assist with linking this William (testator in the will dated 28 Jun 1625)  married to Temperance Pollard with William of East Buckland (see my blog dated 30 Jul 2011). William was still unmarried when his father died in 1602. Under the Visitation we have William Pyncombe married to [Emotte] da[ughter] of Snowe of Antstey Devon with three of their sons listed John, Richard and William (John and Richard are listed because they were overseers of their brother William's will). William is listed with the following notations:

William Pynecombe of Southmolton and of of E[a]st Buckland in Devon,  Coroner of the same Countie 14 or 15 years together, aet 54, 1620. Will 28 June, pro[bated] 17 Dec 1625 P.C.C. (Clarke 138) and married to Temperance, da[ughter] of Hugh Pollard, 1 son of Robert Pollard, Esq[uire], brother to S[i]r Hugh Pollard, K[nigh]t, both sonnes to S[i]r Lewis Pollard, K[nigh]t, the Judge. Ex[ecu]trix of her husband's will. Will 7 Mar 1636/37, pro[bated] 15 June 1637. P.C.C. (Goare 94).

The information on William gives us his date of birth as 1566 since he is 54 years old in 1620. John is the eldest brother in this family so must have been born in 1564 or 1565 since their grandmother Johane does not mention the wife of William Pincombe or any children in her will of 1563. This makes for a neat timeline for this family. We know the father of this William was dead by 28 December 1602, married by 1564 and one wonders how old he would have been when he married. All of his siblings had at least one child and dates of baptism are unknown except for the daughter of John Pyncombe who was baptized Johane 5 Jun 1561 at North Molton.  That at least gives us an estimate of 1530s to 1540s for the births of the children of Thomas and Johane Pincombe. Then according to the Visitation the grandfather of these children who came to North Molton with Lord Zouch was an adult supposedly in 1485. Does that seem reasonable that this Pincombe would be having children in the early 1600s to 1610s when he would be 35 to 45? Well it could be especially if he married twice. A first marriage could have produced the one John Pincombe - the ancestor of Gertrude Pyncombe and would answer the question why no Pincombe relations. If they were all half siblings/half cousins and separated in age by a generation they may not have known each other by the second or third generation and Gertrude was five generations down from the original Pincombe who arrived at North Molton with Lord Zouch.  I am starting to rethink my earlier thought that there was an extra generation. A second marriage would also be very logical especially given naming two sons John. Although both of these sons lived at South Molton which is perhaps surprising!

I hadn't looked at the William Pincombe/Temperance Pollard family previously  with a timeline in mind and for them I do have a year of birth for William son of  William Pincombe and Emotte Snowe. The other item to ponder at this point is the will left by Emot Pincombe in 1620 according to the Devon Calendar of wills on Genuki Devon. Was this Emotte married to William Pincombe who died in 1602 or was this Emet Hodge married to John Pyncombe? If it was Emotte then she outlived her husband by 18 years and would have been in her 80s likely when she died (which isn't impossible as some people did live that long even back in the 1600s).

The children of William Pincombe and Temperance Pollard are then listed as

William Pynecombe, eldest sonne, aet 13, ano. 1620. Named in the wills of his father and mother, living 1637
 and married to Bridget, da. of Henry Worth of Washfield, mar. lic. 14, mar. 16 Feb 1628/29 at Washfield. Named in the will of her mother in law, living 1636. (The chart from the earlier researchers has a baptismal date of 16 Mar 1606. The IGI has a baptism (patron entry) 16 Mar 1605 at North Molton for a William Pyncombe son of William Pyncombe.)

John Pincombe, baptized 4 Aug 1610 (from the chart produced by the earlier researchers). Again the IGI has a baptism for a John Pyncombe 4 Aug 1610 at North Molton son of William Pyncombe (patron entry).

Only William is mentioned in his father's will (see below).

The children of William Pincombe and Bridget Worth:

William, Pincombe, bap 4 Feb 1620/30 at Washfield (executor of his grandmother's will) and married to Gertrude who was buried 8 Jan 1685/86 at South Molton.

Elizabeth, 1 da., bap. 17 Nov 1631 at Washfield, named in her grandmother's will, living 1637

Bridget, 2 da., named in her grandmother's will, living 1637.


Temperance, 3 da., named in her grandmother's will, living 1637

If John found in the Oxford Alumnus Roll is their son then he was born 1646. However they were not living at Filleigh. I shall need to search down through the Manor Books if they exist for this area; the parish registers for Filleigh and East Buckland do not begin until the latter part of the 1680s. I was not sure if John was a son of William Pincombe and Bridget Worth but the information from the Visitation would appear to discount his being their son.

Will of William Pincombe dated 28 Jun 1625 - PROB 11/147 - Image Reference 501/397

Recorded: 9 Oct 2005, Revised 12 Aug 2011
Source: Public Record Office, London, UK, PROB 11/147 - Image Reference 501/397
Place: South Molton, Devon, England
Type of Record: Will
Dated: 28  June 1625 (probated 17 Dec 1625)
Condition: photocopy, fairly clear, light, old English writing

[in margin] T[estator] William Pincombe

1    In the name of God Amen
2    the eight and Twentyth day of June Anno Domino one Thousand sixe hundred Twentyfive
3    I William Pincombe of South Molton in the County of Devon gent being of good and
4    perfect memory (god bee praised) doe make and ordayne this my last will and Testament in
5    manner and forme followinge viz[ a vi]t First I commend my soule into the hands of god my maker
6    hopeing assuredly through the onely meritts of Jesus Christ my Saviour to bee made p[ar]taker of  life
7    everlastinge And I commend my body to the earth where of it was made Item I give and bequeath to ye
8    poore of South Molton forty shillings And to the poor of East Buckland ten shillings Item I give
9    devise and bequeath unto Temperance my wife all my tearme and estate in the farme & of  Barton
10    called haiche otherwise hatch in Southmoulton w[hi]ch I clayme to hold by the demise of Arthur
11    Ackland Esq[uir]e and Ellinor his wife by theire deed indented beareing date the Tenth daie of May in the
12    fortyth yeare of the Raigne of o[u]r late Soveraigne Lady Queene Elizabeth in as large and ample
13    manner as the same is graunted unto mee by the said recytes and Indented Together with the said
14    deed Item I give and bequeath unto William Pincombe my Sonne the Tablebord in the hall at west-
15    cott in East Buckland All other my other standing bedsteeds and one other bedsteed there the sealinge of
16    the hall. the cupbord in the said hall and all shelves and Tymber of mine whatsoever now w[i]thin ye
17    houses of the said Tenement or elsewhere on the said Tenem[en]t called Westcott wheresoever Item
18    I give and bequeath unto my said sonne my second best bedsteed my second best featherbed p[re]formed
19    w[i]th my second best bed clothes my best Cloke my Rapier and poyinard with all my girdles and
20    hangings and all my bookes and my spruce deske to bee all delivered unto him within one moneth after
21    my decease Item I give and bequeath unto the said William Pincombe my Sonne my great brasse
22    kettle my greatest brasse pan, my greatest brasse caldron and my two Silver Bowles my best
23    bedsteed and best featherbed p[re]formed with the best bedclothes that I shall have at the tyme of my
24    death And my will is that his Mother shall have the use of theis dureing her life if shee soe longe live
25    unmarried And shall not sell or ymbesill the same or any p[ar]te thereof Item I give and bequeath to my
26    loveing kinswoman Temperance Uppington five pounds of lawfull English money Item I give devise
27    and bequeath unto my said wife the mesuage and Tenem[en]t wherein I now dwell in South Molton w[i]th
28    the Courtilage Backeside and Garden to the same belonginge and the backeside where the Rackes
29    stand and the Garden now in the possession of Andrew Wolcott To have and to hold unto the said
30    Temperance my wife for and dureing the terme of one and Twenty yeres if she soe longe happen to
31    live after my decease The remaynder of mine estate and terme in the premisses w[hi]ch shal[l ]be then to
32    come and unexpired I doe give devise and bequeath unto my said sonne William Pincombe w[i]th the
33    severall deeds of the same Provided allwaies and my will is that my said sonne William Pincombe
34    shall paye or cause to bee payd unto mine Executrix hereafter named the somme of forty pounds of
35    lawfull english money w[i]thin two yeres next after my decease by Twenty pounds a yere And if he the
36    said William my Sonne shall refuse soe to doe Then my will is that all these legacies by this my will
37    to him the said William my Sonne soe given and bequeathed shal[l ]be voyd and accrue unto the benefitt
38    of mine executrix as though they had never beene given or bequeathed unto him anythinge herein
39    conteyned to the contrary, in any wise notw[i]thstanding Item I further give and bequeath unto him my
40    said Sonne William Pincomb my Truncke covered w[i]th Sailes skines and my woodricke at
41    westcott w[hi]ch standeth by the East maynehouse there, All the residue of my goods and Chattles not
42    heretofore given and bequeathed I doe give and bequeath unto Temperance Pincombe my deare
43    and loveinge wife whom I doe ordayne and make my whole and sole Executrix of this my present last
44    Will and Testament And I doe appoynt overseers of the same my deere and much respected
45    cosin Mr. Christopher Rashleigh and my loveing Brothers John Pincombe and Richarde
46    Pincombe to see this my last will p[er]formed in all things And I give unto every of them for theire
47    paynes to bee taken therein ten shillings apeece In witnes whereof I the aforesaid William Pincombe
48    to this my present last will & testament myne hand and Seale have sett geeven the daie and yere
49    first above written in the presence of those p[er]sons whose names are here underwritten William
50    Pincombe Chr. Rashleigh Jo[sep]h Hurwood John Bradford by mee Mary Oliver

This is Richard Pincombe's of Bishops Nympton older brother (my direct ancestor). Richard has been chosen as an overseer by his brother William probably because he is the next in order after the eldest brother John. Simon is in "Foreign Parts" as we learned in the will of their father William Pincombe in 1602. Richard was the fourth son. This line is completely separate from the Pincombe line that lived at Poughill; there is no crossover with respect to mentioning cousins, etc. At this generation they are already second cousins and if there were two marriages they are only half second cousins. Given the distance that separates them it is not surprising that they are no longer in communication on such vital issues as overseers, etc.

The next will to transcribe will be for Temperance the wife of William Pincombe whose will I have transcribed in this blog.

Pincombe - Oxford University Alumni 1500 - 1714

Continuing to look at my Pincombe family both for myself (my mother was a Pincombe) and for my one name study. I found it helpful to look at Richard Pincombe and his father John in the Alumni list for Oxford so decided I would transcribe all of the Pincombe entries for my future reference in my blog.

1.  Pincombe, John, of Devon, gent. Exeter Coll., matric 13 July, 1604, aged 18; of Poughill, Devon, bar.-at-law, Middle Temple, 1616 (as son and heir of John, of South Molton, Devon, gent.); father of Richard 1655. See Foster's Judges and Barristers.

2.  Pincombe, John, s. William, of Filleigh, Devon, pleb., p. p. New Inn Hall, matric, 15 May, 1662, aged 16, B. A. 1665.

3.  Pincombe, John s. Jo., of Bishops Nympton, Devon, pleb. Exeter Coll., matric 17 April 1668, aged 17.

4.  Pincombe, Richard (Pyncombe), arm. Wadham Coll., subscribed 7 Nov., 1655; student of Middle Temple 1656 (as son and heir of John, of Poughill, Devon, esq., deceased); buried in the Temple church, Friday night, 20 Nov., 1656. See Foster's Inns of Court Reg.

Can I place all of these individuals? Well certainly John Pincombe (1) of Poughill and his son Richard (4) have already been discussed.

John Pincombe (3) son of John Pincombe of Bishops Nympton is the grandson of Richard Pincombe father of my William Pincombe except by his second wife Francis Gill. This John Pincombe (father of alumni) was baptized 9 Dec 1604 at Bishops Nympton and his son John (3) was baptized 16 March 1650 and he is said to be 17 when he completed his studies 17 April 1668. Actually he was 18 but close enough. This is the only John Pincombe of Bishops Nympton with father John Pincombe who would fit this description.

John Pincombe (2) son of William Pincombe of Filleigh may be the son of William Pincombe and Bridget Worth who were married 16 Feb 1628 and I believe at Washfield but I am still working on that line. The wills of this family coming down from William Pincombe (son of William Pincombe and Emotte Snow and older brother to my Richard) And William Pincombe's will be the next will to transcribe. He was married to Temperance Pollard and his will was probated 28 Jun 1625.

Pincombe One Name Study - 3 August 2009

Today is Colonel By day in Ottawa. We commemorate this great man by a celebration around the locks which he built between 1828 and 1832. His enormous effort, tremendous confidence, engineering skill and ability to get the job done produced a set of locks from Ottawa to Kingston that are now a World Heritage Site. Pleasure craft travel up and down the locks all summer long here and they are efficiently maintained by Parks Canada. Today I saw my first "raw" Douglas Fir tree. The internal wood (freshly shaved) has a slight pink colour and a beautiful pattern. A new part of a lock was being prepared to repair one part of the lock. They are perfect reproductions of the original tooling of the wood supports of the lock. A Parks Canada employee spent at least fifteen minutes explaining the tooling of this particular piece to the group around him and we were quite enraptured by his comments!

We, my husband, my daughter and I visited the Celtic Cross which celebrates the lives of the 1000 (mostly Irish) people who died putting in the locks. It is a beautiful monument which looks down on the locks just behind Parliament Hill here. My husband's 3x great grandmother is his only Irish relative and she was not involved in the locks but came to Canada (Halifax) as a young orphan girl (she was born at Dublin) in 1787.

Today I continued looking at the Pincombe family. I pulled out the two copies of Visitation that I have just to review the genealogical chart which was attached to this family in the 1400s and 1500s into the 1600s. My own direct line back to Thomas (son of the Pyncombe who had accompanied Lord de la Zouch to North Molton in 1485 (beginning of the reign of Henry VII)) is through a younger son of his son William (Richard). Richard can be found at Bishops Nympton by the late 1500s baptizing his son in 1599 (William, my direct ancestor). His wife had already died or died soon after as he married Francis Gill (daughter of John Gill) 11 November 1603 at Bishops Nympton. My line continues at Bishops Nympton right up to the birth/baptism of my 2x great grandfather John in 1808.

The Visitation of 1686 is very detailed and encompasses the earlier visitations of 1531, 1564 and 1620.

The 1620 Visitation lists:

ARMS: Per pale gules and azure, three close helmets argent, garnished or.
CREST: An arm in armour embowed argent, grasping in the gauntlet a Poland mace azure, handle proper, fastened to the arm by a scarf gules.

I will list the pedigree as follows (denoting with numbers the generations):

1. Pyncombe of Northmolton came there with the Lord Zouche about the beginning of H: 7

2. Thomas Pyncombe dwelt at Filleigh and after at East Buckland
3. William Pincombe
+ d. of Snowe of Anstey in Devon
4. William Pyncombe of Southmolton and East Buckland hath been 14 or 15 years one of the Coroners of the said Countie, aet. 54, 1620
+ Temperance d. of Hugh Pollard, 1 s., of Rob. P. Esq brother of Sir Hugh P. Kt. who were sons of Sir Lewis P. the Judge
5. William s & h., aet 13

2. John Pyncombe
3. John Pyncombe of Southmolton
4. John Pyncombe of Southmolton (Coat of Arms, Mayor of Southmolton 1598)
+ Amy d. of Richard Doddridge father of the now Judge Doddridge
5. John Pyncombe of Southmolton and Barrister of the Middle Temple London, living 1620

3. Christopher of Southmolton
4. John

Signed William Pyncombe and this would have to be William Pyncombe of Southmolton and East Buckland (Coroner of Devon, age 54 in 1620 so born in 1566). The only question that remains in my mind is the dates of birth of the individuals marked as 1., 2., and 3. I am still working on that as I do have dates for the wills and several of them left very detailed wills.

Visitation of 1686

This visitation encompasses all of the prior visitations as I mentioned earlier. It is far more complete and generally points out that several of the Pincombe lines daughtered out by the mid 1600s with several substantial trusts being established for schools in the North Devon area. My own ancestor Robert Pincombe held Park, East Wood and West Wood until he died at which time these properties passed to his brothers except for one property which he held as a freehold which passed to his sons. His eldest brother John was at Great Woods, another brother Thomas was at Twitchen.

This visitation has misread the sons of the first Pyncombe of Northmolton actually giving him one son Thomas and two sons John (one at Northmolton and one at Southmolton). They are indeed the same person.

ARMS: Per pale Gu. and Az. three close helmets Arg. garnished Or.
CREST: An armed arm enbowed ppr. purified Or, holding in the hand a Poland mace Arg., fastened to the arm with a scarf Gu.

1. Pyncombe of Northmolton came thither with the Lo. Zouch about the beginninge of the reigne of K. Henry 7th

2. John Pynecombe of Northmolton and Southmolton
3. Christopher Pyncombe of Southmolton
4. John Pynecombe
3. John Pynecombe of Southmolton
4. John Pincomb of Southmolton in Coun. Devon
+ Amy, Da. of Richard Doddridge of Barstaple & sister of Judge Dodridge
5. John Pincomb of Southmolton and Barraster of the Middle Temple, living 1620, d before 1657
+ Mary, da of Sir John Carew of Crowcombe, vide ped. ante, page 137, extrix. of the will of her son Richard, living 1658. Admon. granted to her three daughters 20 June 1671.
6. Elizabeth, adm. to her brother and mother, living 1671.
6. Richard Pincombe of Poughill, co. Devon. Will 19 Nov 1658, the exrs Mary, the mother, and John Doddridge, the cousin of testator, having renounced, adnon. with will attached was granted to the three sisters of testator 10 Apl. 1658. P.C.C. (Wotton 146)
6. Gertrude, adm. to her brother and mother, living 1671
6. Mary, mar. 4 July 1657 at Crediton to John Tuckfield. Adm. to her brother and mother, living 1671.

2. Thomas Pynecombe of Filley and of Est Buckland
3. William Pynecombe
+ da. of ....Snowe of Antstey Devon
4. John Pincombe, overseer of his brother's will
4. William Pynecombe of Southmolton and of East Buckland in Devon, & Coroner of the same Countie 14 or 15 years together aet. 54, 1620. Will 28 June pro. 17 Dec 1625 P.C.C. (Clarke 138)
+Temperance, da. of Hugh Pollard, 1 son of Robert Pollard, Esq., brother to Sr. Hugh Pollard, KT. both sonnes to Sir Lewis Pollard, Kt., the Judge. Extrix of her husband's will. Will 7 Mar 1636-37, pro. 15 June 1637. P.C.C. (Goare 94)
5. William Pynecombe, eldest soune aet 13, Anno 1620. Named in the wills of his father and mother living 1637
+ Bridget, da. of Henry Worth of Washfield, mar. lic 14 Mar 16 Feb 1628-29 at Washfield
6. Elizabeth, 1 da. bap. 17 Nov 1631 at Washfield, named in her grandmother's will, living 1637.
6. William Pincombe, bap. 4 Feb 1629-30 at Washfield, exr of his grandmother's will
+ Gertrude da. of .....bur 8 Jan. 1685-86 at Southmolton
7. John Pincombe, bap 29 Jan 1672-73, bur 23 Apr 1676 at Southmolton
6. Bridget, 2 da. named in her grandmothers will, living 1637
6. Temperance, named in her grandmother's will, living 1637

These particular Visitations have been very useful as they have given some idea of ages of the remainder of their siblings since only the first son is mentioned. The dates of the wills/probates is also very very handy. My Richard is mentioned as the 3rd son of William Pynecombe and [Emott] Snow. No notation is made in this Visitation as to which individual obtained the Coat of Arms.

Tomorrow I will be at the Family History Centre for a few hours reviewing the film for Bradfield Berkshire to see if the Nathanael Lambden who was baptized there as the son of John Lambden and Joan Caruthue 26 Jul 1724 with their marriage October 1721 also at Bradfield could be my Nathanael who is at Andover in the 1750s with his wife Sarah. I have not been able to find their marriage so will check for a marriage in the Bradfield Register first and that should be around 1748-1750 since their first known son is baptized at Andover 23 Oct 1751. I may also continue looking at the Pincombe family.