I have now completed Parish Register 2 and I am now working on Parish Register 4 (marriages and banns) from 1754 to 1812. I should complete them in the next couple of hours and then I will do Parish Register 3 which begins with a copying of Parish Register 2 and then completes the Baptisms and Burials from 1777 to 1812. I hope to complete this task today and I will send it off to the OPC Hampshire webpages for inclusion there. I know that Linda and Tony have mentioned they are busy but hopefully Penton Mewsey will soon be up (available on my webpages: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm#BLAKE along with the Parish Registers of Knights Enham).
One of my other Blake researchers with whom I correspond asked for my Andover Parish Register so I decided to send it off to her (it is from the beginning of the register late 1580s to 1757). It is a very large file and I have discussed with Linda and Tony Knight the idea of putting it up although not yet proofread. They are keen to do so and I will send it off to them as well on the weekend.
Then I can begin the Abbotts Ann Parish Registers. I am most interested in this parish. John Blake lived there at least from the mid 1750s to 1796 when he is buried there. Will I be able to discover anything about the Blake family in the early registers? I am hoping I might get a few ideas but will have to wait and see on that.
With two King sisters (Mary married John Blake and Joanna married Joseph Blake) marrying Blake men I must admit to wondering if the two Blake men were related other than their children being first cousins to each other. John Blake's only child Mary died in childbirth about a year after her marriage in 1780. Joseph's children are mentioned in the will of John Blake with Ann receiving special interest in that she was living in Abbotts Ann possibly taking care of her uncle. Impossible to tell from the will although one could suspect that. Thomas, her brother and my 3x great grandfather) is living at Upper Clatford (and he is married to Sarah Coleman) and he has three children although the will was dated 1792 and Thomas only just married that year. Interestingly Sarah Coleman is descended from the Coleman family who were Inn keepers at Goodworth Clatford and the Pearce family who were Inn keepers at Abbotts Ann. Considering John Blake was a malster this certainly leads to interesting thinking. Hence my strong desire to transcribe the parish registers of Abbotts Ann next. William the only other child of the Joseph Blake/Joanna King marriage lives at Andover.
Then there is the Carter family where Mary Carter married Thomas King (parents of Mary and Joanna (married to John Blake and Joseph Blake respectively)) and Ann Carter married Thomas Blake. I do not know if they were sisters. There are two sisters Mary and Ann in the family of Richard Carter and Elizabeth Musprett at Andover. One wonders if this has been the reason that Joseph Blake ends up in Upper Clatford since he lived at Andover. If Thomas and Mary King were his aunt and uncle one can see that that might happen. How does John Blake fit in? Why does he go to Upper Clatford for his wife (Mary King)? It is an intriguing query and I am not sure that the Manor Books will necessarily help me with this one except that Thomas King was a farmer at Upper Clatford.
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Friday, February 25, 2011
Wednesday, January 19, 2011
Penton Mewsey Transcription Complete
Amazingly I have completed Penton Mewsey up to 1812 (I do not have the fiche for the later years). In total I only have five fiche for this parish. Baptisms 1064 but this includes a duplication as the priest in the early 1700s decided to rewrite the earlier register (good of him actually as his was easier to read but I did a new transcription to compare with the original since it became a secondary source automatically. The duplication is 157 although the priest captured a few that I could not read readily. We will see what the end tally is when I proofread and send the copy into the OPC Hampshire site. I will not include the duplication I do not think but rather a transcription that combines the two sets of data. Marriages 229 with 33 duplications but again I must check and see if he found material that wasn't in the original register. There is the occasional note that says items had been missed and they were inserted several years (or even 20) later. Burials 751 with 121 duplications to be checked against the original entries.
There were 29 heads of household on the Hearth Tax list of 1665. This is a parish in the lower division of the hundred of Andover and lies 3 miles north west of the town of Andover. The Church is Holy Trinity Penton Mewsey Parish. The area was rural and agricultural and continues to be that to this day. As I moved through the centuries, the original names continued in the village but I recognized names from Andover marrying into this village. There were, however, some entirely new names as well. Perhaps the local manor houses reflect the names that come from further away - London, etc.
According to Wikipedia, the village consists of about 110 dwellings and a population of 400 people. Working with 29 heads of household and a family size of 5 in 1665 one might expect the population to have been about 150. The census of 1841 lists 250 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1851 lists 211 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1861 lists 287 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1871 lists 344 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1881 lists 377 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1891 lists 280 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1901 lists 227 people at Penton Mewsey. I used the enumerator book and came up with only 100 people on the 1911 which doesn't seem quite right. I would need to determine if Foxcott, Weyhill and Hatherden were always included within Penton Mewsey in these census. They were separate places on the 1665 Hearth Tax Assessment. The 400 now listed perhaps reflects Penton Mewsey becoming a "commuter" town as Hampshire becomes the Technological Centre of England. Between 1665 and 1841 there appears to be an increase from about 150 to 250.
Penton Mewsey did not give me support for my hypothesis of a couple of days ago which was that Robert Blake and Elizabeth Russell Blake were baptizing children there in the absent years from Andover 1703 to 1710. The 1710 baptism of Sacheverell Blake as the son of Robert was very welcome news but the 1714 baptism of John is coincidental with the baptism of a child of theirs at Andover. Back to the thinking board but will not let the Robert Blake/Elizabeth Russell marriage slip away because the children fit nicely into the John Blake will that is my linchpin for all of the discussion on the Charles Blake family with respect to my own at Upper Clatford.
Who is the Robert Blake at Penton Mewsey? There is a large Blake family - John Blake and Sarah Towler who married at Quarley baptize all their children there and their sons continue to do so and even grandsons (possibly this is the Blake family that continues to live there to this day). I wish I could persuade them to test their yDNA to see if there was a mixture of Blake families at Andover. The name Blake occurs as Blague, Blaake, and Blake. It is always possible that indeed there was more than one grouping of people who ended up using the name Blake at Andover. The two Blake lines at Andover though intermarried and their descendant will one day sit on the throne of England (Prince William son of Diana, Princess of Wales). The Pedigree Chart at the Swindon and Wiltshire Record Office clearly shows this relationship although I am still puzzled by the marriage between William Blake and Avis Ripley and that this William is a son of Roger Blake and Mary Baynard. The extant visitation does not list him, the will of Roger Blake lists only his eldest son and youngest daughter but it was prepared by the College of Arms. I expect that we will see more information on Williams' line in the years to come.
Once I have proofread Penton Mewsey then I shall move on to Upper Clatford as being my next place to transcribe. I have only extracted my own family information from this parish back to Joseph Blake and Joanna King marrying in 1757 at Upper Clatford. I have glanced at the King family there to a certain extent trying to put the King families together there somewhat successfully. It is time now to look at the beginning of the registers as there was a Blake family there earlier and I think I need to know more about that family. They were there in the 1600s but had disappeared from Upper Clatford by the early 1700s or perhaps earlier.
There were 29 heads of household on the Hearth Tax list of 1665. This is a parish in the lower division of the hundred of Andover and lies 3 miles north west of the town of Andover. The Church is Holy Trinity Penton Mewsey Parish. The area was rural and agricultural and continues to be that to this day. As I moved through the centuries, the original names continued in the village but I recognized names from Andover marrying into this village. There were, however, some entirely new names as well. Perhaps the local manor houses reflect the names that come from further away - London, etc.
According to Wikipedia, the village consists of about 110 dwellings and a population of 400 people. Working with 29 heads of household and a family size of 5 in 1665 one might expect the population to have been about 150. The census of 1841 lists 250 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1851 lists 211 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1861 lists 287 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1871 lists 344 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1881 lists 377 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1891 lists 280 people at Penton Mewsey. The census of 1901 lists 227 people at Penton Mewsey. I used the enumerator book and came up with only 100 people on the 1911 which doesn't seem quite right. I would need to determine if Foxcott, Weyhill and Hatherden were always included within Penton Mewsey in these census. They were separate places on the 1665 Hearth Tax Assessment. The 400 now listed perhaps reflects Penton Mewsey becoming a "commuter" town as Hampshire becomes the Technological Centre of England. Between 1665 and 1841 there appears to be an increase from about 150 to 250.
Penton Mewsey did not give me support for my hypothesis of a couple of days ago which was that Robert Blake and Elizabeth Russell Blake were baptizing children there in the absent years from Andover 1703 to 1710. The 1710 baptism of Sacheverell Blake as the son of Robert was very welcome news but the 1714 baptism of John is coincidental with the baptism of a child of theirs at Andover. Back to the thinking board but will not let the Robert Blake/Elizabeth Russell marriage slip away because the children fit nicely into the John Blake will that is my linchpin for all of the discussion on the Charles Blake family with respect to my own at Upper Clatford.
Who is the Robert Blake at Penton Mewsey? There is a large Blake family - John Blake and Sarah Towler who married at Quarley baptize all their children there and their sons continue to do so and even grandsons (possibly this is the Blake family that continues to live there to this day). I wish I could persuade them to test their yDNA to see if there was a mixture of Blake families at Andover. The name Blake occurs as Blague, Blaake, and Blake. It is always possible that indeed there was more than one grouping of people who ended up using the name Blake at Andover. The two Blake lines at Andover though intermarried and their descendant will one day sit on the throne of England (Prince William son of Diana, Princess of Wales). The Pedigree Chart at the Swindon and Wiltshire Record Office clearly shows this relationship although I am still puzzled by the marriage between William Blake and Avis Ripley and that this William is a son of Roger Blake and Mary Baynard. The extant visitation does not list him, the will of Roger Blake lists only his eldest son and youngest daughter but it was prepared by the College of Arms. I expect that we will see more information on Williams' line in the years to come.
Once I have proofread Penton Mewsey then I shall move on to Upper Clatford as being my next place to transcribe. I have only extracted my own family information from this parish back to Joseph Blake and Joanna King marrying in 1757 at Upper Clatford. I have glanced at the King family there to a certain extent trying to put the King families together there somewhat successfully. It is time now to look at the beginning of the registers as there was a Blake family there earlier and I think I need to know more about that family. They were there in the 1600s but had disappeared from Upper Clatford by the early 1700s or perhaps earlier.
Friday, January 14, 2011
Moving on to Penton Mewsey
I have completed Andover Parish Registers up to 1757 yielding 11,785 baptisms, 3400 marriages, and 10,677 burials. I still need to proofread this entire file before submitting it to the OPC Hampshire site. I must allocate time to that after I complete Penton Mewsey. I am most anxious to see that particular parish.
I have also decided to prepare a flat file in excel of the Hearth Tax 1665 for Hampshire from the published book just for Andover Extra and Infra. The published book lacks an index for a portion of the alphabet and this will make it easier to sort and find my people. I will gradually add in the areas around Andover that interest me.
My two new Blake correspondents descend from the Charles Blake line at Abbotts Ann and have acquired a fair amount of information on their Robert Blake line (son of Charles Blake and Jane Gilbert). I had some information on that line (grandchildren of Robert) which I had extracted just to see if there was any overlap with Upper Clatford. They have a complete look at the family from Robert down. I am looking forward to working with them on the Blake family prior to Charles and my Thomas. I am convinced that Charles descends from Robert but more proof is always good. I note that Edward Blake (at Abbotts Ann) lived at Quarley so this is probably a good spot to look for other baptisms for the children of Robert Blake and Elizabeth Russell. An eight year gap in a marriage is unusual especially as they had several children before and several children after.
I have backed up the Andover file several times over just to be safe on that.
I have also decided to prepare a flat file in excel of the Hearth Tax 1665 for Hampshire from the published book just for Andover Extra and Infra. The published book lacks an index for a portion of the alphabet and this will make it easier to sort and find my people. I will gradually add in the areas around Andover that interest me.
My two new Blake correspondents descend from the Charles Blake line at Abbotts Ann and have acquired a fair amount of information on their Robert Blake line (son of Charles Blake and Jane Gilbert). I had some information on that line (grandchildren of Robert) which I had extracted just to see if there was any overlap with Upper Clatford. They have a complete look at the family from Robert down. I am looking forward to working with them on the Blake family prior to Charles and my Thomas. I am convinced that Charles descends from Robert but more proof is always good. I note that Edward Blake (at Abbotts Ann) lived at Quarley so this is probably a good spot to look for other baptisms for the children of Robert Blake and Elizabeth Russell. An eight year gap in a marriage is unusual especially as they had several children before and several children after.
I have backed up the Andover file several times over just to be safe on that.
Tuesday, May 5, 2009
Babysitting
Today was a babysitting day for our two "grand" dogs and they were very good. We tired them out though and they were fast asleep on the couch when we left them at their home this evening. They ran up and down the yard for several hours and then we did a 2K walk around the block. By 3:30 though they were looking for their parents and missing them. Probably because they were tired!
I didn't accomplish much in the way of genealogy although I did manage to get some more BMB data up for several places on the Genuki Hampshire webpages. I still have more to do. One of the contributors wanted very much to have them on Genuki so I obliged. I was involved slightly in the setup of the OPC Hampshire website and they have a lot of material up now including my Knights Enham transcription.
I took the Siderfin family tree down from the Ancestry website and I need to put that up again. I have revised it somewhat and it needed to be replaced.
Tomorrow more time on the Blake family as I want to order the wills that I am needing and I also want to spend some time on the paper documents that I purchased some time ago (over one year ago!).
I didn't accomplish much in the way of genealogy although I did manage to get some more BMB data up for several places on the Genuki Hampshire webpages. I still have more to do. One of the contributors wanted very much to have them on Genuki so I obliged. I was involved slightly in the setup of the OPC Hampshire website and they have a lot of material up now including my Knights Enham transcription.
I took the Siderfin family tree down from the Ancestry website and I need to put that up again. I have revised it somewhat and it needed to be replaced.
Tomorrow more time on the Blake family as I want to order the wills that I am needing and I also want to spend some time on the paper documents that I purchased some time ago (over one year ago!).
Saturday, November 22, 2008
Results of Research at Salt Lake City - 21 Nov 2008
I completed the transcription for the Protestation Returns for Lanercost and I am now in proofreading mode. I have three entries that are somewhat curious but for the most part the transcription went very well. I will share this with the Routledge/Nixon/Hetherington/Foster/ study group. We have been working together for about two years now and the latest accumulation of data (Land Tax Assessments) has been most interesting in letting me look at my Oakshaw Routledge family. This is a family that dominated the area known as Oakshaw and included Parkhead, Flatt, Raw, Broderrigg and a few other places. My own direct line - Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Routledge (both descendants of the Oakshaw Routledge family) emigrated to Canada in 1818 with their nine children, son in law and two grandsons. We still do not know if they came as a group but when they arrived they received land from Colonel Talbot in London Township. My 2x great grandmother would have been 14 years old when she arrived. I will continue the transcription of the Protestation Returns for Eskdale Ward since it will help other members of the group. I am primarily interested in Bewcastle (I already have this transcription from the Carlisle Record Office), Lanercost, Farlam, and Arthuret. Thomas and Elizabeth were second cousins once removed. My other names in Cumberland are Tweddle, Story, Robson and Bushby thus far. All the rest appear to be Routledge and the Oakshaw family were known for marrying first, second and third cousins thus keeping all of their properties in the family.
My other project yesterday was to work on my Hampshire webpages and I have two new Church photographs to put up but the server is being upgraded this weekend so will have to wait until next week. I have a number of pictures that we took at Upper Clatford, Abbots Ann, and Goodworth Clatford that I will add as well. I would like to start adding to the pages of Genuki Hampshire but at the moment the site really works very well and the OPC site is growing quickly. The Knight family has done a really terrific job of setting this up and my little bit of advertisement on Genuki at least gives it another avenue for people to see it, add to it and use it. I did the Knights Enham records and I am working on Abbotts Ann and it is truly a labour of love as the old records are very very difficult to read.
Today we have company to look at our slides from England - these are whittled down to just 1200 but we have maintained the daily integrity so that we can just pass by days that they have seen and do not want to repeat. We will do hors d'oeuvres around 4:00 and I am going to make mini Shepherd's pie, cheese baking powder biscuits and a salad tray with dip just to give it an English flair. For dinner, a sirloin tip roast of beef, garlic mashed potatoes, roasted carrots and green beans with a chicken soup to start. Red wine from Niagara will complete the main course with condiments of pickled beets and sweet and sour pickles. For dessert we will have pound cake (300 grams of butter, 5 eggs, 600 mls of sugar and 700 mls of flour), pumpkin custard, and liqueur. Then tea or coffee as we watch the last of the slides. We have owed this dinner invitation for about two years! Somehow genealogy has completely dominated our lives and we spend hours and hours each day working on our family lines plus doing the group work that keeps genealogy publication moving along.
My other project yesterday was to work on my Hampshire webpages and I have two new Church photographs to put up but the server is being upgraded this weekend so will have to wait until next week. I have a number of pictures that we took at Upper Clatford, Abbots Ann, and Goodworth Clatford that I will add as well. I would like to start adding to the pages of Genuki Hampshire but at the moment the site really works very well and the OPC site is growing quickly. The Knight family has done a really terrific job of setting this up and my little bit of advertisement on Genuki at least gives it another avenue for people to see it, add to it and use it. I did the Knights Enham records and I am working on Abbotts Ann and it is truly a labour of love as the old records are very very difficult to read.
Today we have company to look at our slides from England - these are whittled down to just 1200 but we have maintained the daily integrity so that we can just pass by days that they have seen and do not want to repeat. We will do hors d'oeuvres around 4:00 and I am going to make mini Shepherd's pie, cheese baking powder biscuits and a salad tray with dip just to give it an English flair. For dinner, a sirloin tip roast of beef, garlic mashed potatoes, roasted carrots and green beans with a chicken soup to start. Red wine from Niagara will complete the main course with condiments of pickled beets and sweet and sour pickles. For dessert we will have pound cake (300 grams of butter, 5 eggs, 600 mls of sugar and 700 mls of flour), pumpkin custard, and liqueur. Then tea or coffee as we watch the last of the slides. We have owed this dinner invitation for about two years! Somehow genealogy has completely dominated our lives and we spend hours and hours each day working on our family lines plus doing the group work that keeps genealogy publication moving along.
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