An inquiry from one of the members of my H11 haplogroup study resulted in my discovering that I have four new members. I updated the spreadsheets to reflect the new members and they continue to fit into the patterns of H11a, H11b, H11c, and H11d. Although these ultimately may not be the subgroupings that are chosen for the phylogenetic chart (mine is now H11a2) they do reflect that there are now four distinctly different lines in H11. Since the study is ongoing though I will not comment further in my blog. Geographically mtDNA FGS results appear to be localized to particular areas and in my case my results point to Argyllshire Scotland. Thus far I have two close matches (when personal mutations are removed they are perfect matches) with individuals who can personally trace back to Argyll. Since I have absolutely no idea of my ancestry prior to the Midlands of England I have found this very interesting. Family lore has always given me a few hints - auburn hair (red tints) and freckles which tend to make one think of Scotland and Ireland. My grandmother sang a Celtic Lullaby which is reminiscent of Ireland/Scotland when I was a child which was one she remembered her mother singing. My grandmother was the eldest of seven children so would have remembered her mother singing very well.
Today, I need to start looking at my Genuki webpages to bring them up to date. The past summer has wrecked havoc on my pages in terms of updating them and correcting the excel files that I uploaded with BMBs. I need to create the files myself in order to have them read correctly and this will be an enormous task. I need to decide how to do that in the simplest manner possible.
As well I want to continue with my will/land documents transcriptions of items that I have purchased in the last five years. I want to refrain from making any more purchases (unless something really exciting is sent to me) until I have completed all of these transcriptions. I expect it will be a full winter's work to do that.
I started my transcriptions of standing material with the will of Robert Chettle of the borough of Leicester, Leicestershire. He isn't my direct ancestor (mine spell their name Cheatle as well and they are at Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire) but I was curious about him and his will was on the National Archives so I purchased it along with a second one on the NA. It is an interesting will.
Tomorrow I continue with reading all the material that I have.
Showing posts with label Leicester. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Leicester. Show all posts
Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Monday, November 17, 2008
Results of Research at Salt Lake City - 17 Nov 2008
I completed the Rugeley Land Tax Assessment and combined the two files for sorting. I acquired some information on my Lea and Wood families but nothing new on the Welsh family. I moved on to the images from the Rugeley Parish Registers and extracted the pertinent information as well as saving the images to the family files for my proofs of my 4x great grandparents which will be my next steps on my Legacy family tree file.
I moved on to the Cheatle family at Ashby de la Zouch. I had photographed the baptism of my 3x great grandmother Sarah and saved that one to her file. I then prepared a chart of all the Cheatle wills in Leicester noting that all the Cheatle families in the 1600s and early 1700s lived within 10 miles of Loughborough. Reviewed the Leicestershire Records Office webpage and I am able to purchase parish register fiche so have inquired about purchasing Loughborough, Long Whatton and Castle Donnington from the earliest to 1800. Perhaps I will hear tomorrow as to the number of fiche this will entail.
My order for the Devon fiche was received today and the fiche are now ordered. I will receive these in the next six weeks. This should give me some new thoughts on my family lines in Devon before 1750. I will also be able to add to my Pincombe one name study.
With the Cheatle family I had the confusion of three William Cheatles having children at Ashby de la Zouch in the 1790s - at least it appeared there were three. One married to a Sarah, one married to an Ann and one married to an Elizabeth. Reading the register at Salt Lake City I was able to show that there were indeed three William Cheatle and that it wasn't a matter of one wife dying and his remarrying. While I was pursuing this information I discovered a will for one of the Cheatle families at Ashby de la Zouch on The National Archives site. I downloaded this and it helped to prove that two of the lines at Ashby de la Zouch were brothers (not mine) and the third was not mentioned in the will. Could still be related but not siblings.
Tomorrow I will switch to the material that I collected for the Andover Manor, the Upper Clatford Manor and a couple of smaller manors. These documents are from the 1500s and 1600s and I think will be helpful in looking at my families there.
I moved on to the Cheatle family at Ashby de la Zouch. I had photographed the baptism of my 3x great grandmother Sarah and saved that one to her file. I then prepared a chart of all the Cheatle wills in Leicester noting that all the Cheatle families in the 1600s and early 1700s lived within 10 miles of Loughborough. Reviewed the Leicestershire Records Office webpage and I am able to purchase parish register fiche so have inquired about purchasing Loughborough, Long Whatton and Castle Donnington from the earliest to 1800. Perhaps I will hear tomorrow as to the number of fiche this will entail.
My order for the Devon fiche was received today and the fiche are now ordered. I will receive these in the next six weeks. This should give me some new thoughts on my family lines in Devon before 1750. I will also be able to add to my Pincombe one name study.
With the Cheatle family I had the confusion of three William Cheatles having children at Ashby de la Zouch in the 1790s - at least it appeared there were three. One married to a Sarah, one married to an Ann and one married to an Elizabeth. Reading the register at Salt Lake City I was able to show that there were indeed three William Cheatle and that it wasn't a matter of one wife dying and his remarrying. While I was pursuing this information I discovered a will for one of the Cheatle families at Ashby de la Zouch on The National Archives site. I downloaded this and it helped to prove that two of the lines at Ashby de la Zouch were brothers (not mine) and the third was not mentioned in the will. Could still be related but not siblings.
Tomorrow I will switch to the material that I collected for the Andover Manor, the Upper Clatford Manor and a couple of smaller manors. These documents are from the 1500s and 1600s and I think will be helpful in looking at my families there.
Saturday, November 8, 2008
Research Day Four - Salt Lake City
The fourth day and we remembered to book our shuttle back to the airport on Sunday so that is all accomplished. We are hoping that being there two hours early will be sufficient as we have heard that checking in can be a little slower at Salt Lake City (in retrospect we had enough time plus to check in). Down to breakfast and then over to the library. The wheeled case with my computer in it is completely stripped down to keep the weight minimal. I will buy a backpack with wheels though for the next trip as I simply do not need so much room as is available in the wheeled suitcase computer bag. I have my camera in a small case around my neck and lots of pencils just in case I do want to write something down.
Again I have my lists ready for what I expect will be a frustrating day. I decide at the last moment to start with my family line that I know begins at Rugeley and it was an excellent choice. I already knew this line back to my 4x great grandfather for sure except I was missing his wife's surname. I started with the Parish Register and quickly found the marriage registration. It was really hard to read her name so I decided to check back in the register looking for the letters as they appeared to my eye. About ten years after the birth of her husband I found my 4x great grandmother. A most exciting moment. I also found her seven siblings, her mother's young death and her father's very very long life. However, her father was not born in the parish although he had married there in 1748. Her mother's surname, however, was found in the earliest registers. I extracted all of the individuals with her surname or a similar one plus all the others in my family line as I found that the earlier marriages for this family line were indeed my ancestral line and that I could trace back to my 6x great grandparents in this parish and found the death of one 6x great grandfather for sure and several others. The six times grandparents had not been married at Rugeley and my next visit I will pursue the registers in a parish nearby where this name occurs - Farewell. A very worthwhile few hours pursuing this most interesting family.
I decided to skirt around my biggest difficulty with this family line (my mother's mother) and look at the family of my grandmother's father's father's mother. This interesting family is found at Bermondsey, Surrey and as I read the burial register for the same I discovered the burial of my 3x great grandmother's mother in 1785. I had the will of her father from 1796 where he mentions his wife but not the name that I had for the mother of my 3x great grandmother. I checked the Surrey marriage register which is online at the Family History Library on their computers and there was a second marriage for her father about two years later. I continued to read the burial register and found the likely father of this young woman and he died about three months after on the same street in Bermondsey. I continued reading the register as my 3x great grandfather's family is a mystery at Bermondsey. All of his children appear to be baptized there but the marriage is missing (I expect it was a runaway marriage in one of the peculiars so will eventually do that digging). I did find a burial for a possible father of this man in the register on a street not far away. I copied it for future reference and wrote it down because I was going to be looking at this family later. Surprisingly it was now lunch time.
I had avoided the difficult task ahead for quite awhile. I finally went and got the films for the churches in Birmingham near to where my grandmother was born. I wanted to find the baptisms for her and her siblings. Hours later I hadn't found them but had found the baptisms for her mother's family for several generation back. Because my evidence for the female side of my grandmother's family is based on family lore and some census evidence I avoid doing research too far back. I recorded all of these and decided to move on to collecting material from books that I hadn't had a chance to look at. I then went back and copied the Poor Rate for the Rugeley area although I knew that my people here were into Inn keeping and victuallers but perhaps they might have a mention for the other lines. That occupied the rest of the day as I searched out the relevant information plus I decided to take a stab at Ashby de la Zouch.
I had seen the register for Ashby de la Zouch a year or so ago and knew the line that was pertinent to my ancestor (my 3x great grandmother married to the Rugeley ancestor) but there were three males by that surname and I wondered if he had had three wives or were there actually three males. I then started to pull all this family's data from the register and discovered that indeed there were three William's and that my William had had just the one child - my 3x great grandmother. His wife died young (only the first name known) and I copied the Poor Law just to see if it would be helpful. I haven't found his marriage and that is a necessary next step. I wasn't successful this time but I need to look at six areas in Leicester where this family name occurs and find him in one of them. The surname is relatively unusual but the name William is a common one in the family. With that my day was finished in the library.
Tonight we were going to attend the Mormon Tabernacle Choir rehearsal so finished up by 8:00 p.m. to get ready to do so. A quick supper and we were there by 8:45 p.m. A most fascinating evening and a not to be missed event if you are in Salt Lake City.
Again I have my lists ready for what I expect will be a frustrating day. I decide at the last moment to start with my family line that I know begins at Rugeley and it was an excellent choice. I already knew this line back to my 4x great grandfather for sure except I was missing his wife's surname. I started with the Parish Register and quickly found the marriage registration. It was really hard to read her name so I decided to check back in the register looking for the letters as they appeared to my eye. About ten years after the birth of her husband I found my 4x great grandmother. A most exciting moment. I also found her seven siblings, her mother's young death and her father's very very long life. However, her father was not born in the parish although he had married there in 1748. Her mother's surname, however, was found in the earliest registers. I extracted all of the individuals with her surname or a similar one plus all the others in my family line as I found that the earlier marriages for this family line were indeed my ancestral line and that I could trace back to my 6x great grandparents in this parish and found the death of one 6x great grandfather for sure and several others. The six times grandparents had not been married at Rugeley and my next visit I will pursue the registers in a parish nearby where this name occurs - Farewell. A very worthwhile few hours pursuing this most interesting family.
I decided to skirt around my biggest difficulty with this family line (my mother's mother) and look at the family of my grandmother's father's father's mother. This interesting family is found at Bermondsey, Surrey and as I read the burial register for the same I discovered the burial of my 3x great grandmother's mother in 1785. I had the will of her father from 1796 where he mentions his wife but not the name that I had for the mother of my 3x great grandmother. I checked the Surrey marriage register which is online at the Family History Library on their computers and there was a second marriage for her father about two years later. I continued to read the burial register and found the likely father of this young woman and he died about three months after on the same street in Bermondsey. I continued reading the register as my 3x great grandfather's family is a mystery at Bermondsey. All of his children appear to be baptized there but the marriage is missing (I expect it was a runaway marriage in one of the peculiars so will eventually do that digging). I did find a burial for a possible father of this man in the register on a street not far away. I copied it for future reference and wrote it down because I was going to be looking at this family later. Surprisingly it was now lunch time.
I had avoided the difficult task ahead for quite awhile. I finally went and got the films for the churches in Birmingham near to where my grandmother was born. I wanted to find the baptisms for her and her siblings. Hours later I hadn't found them but had found the baptisms for her mother's family for several generation back. Because my evidence for the female side of my grandmother's family is based on family lore and some census evidence I avoid doing research too far back. I recorded all of these and decided to move on to collecting material from books that I hadn't had a chance to look at. I then went back and copied the Poor Rate for the Rugeley area although I knew that my people here were into Inn keeping and victuallers but perhaps they might have a mention for the other lines. That occupied the rest of the day as I searched out the relevant information plus I decided to take a stab at Ashby de la Zouch.
I had seen the register for Ashby de la Zouch a year or so ago and knew the line that was pertinent to my ancestor (my 3x great grandmother married to the Rugeley ancestor) but there were three males by that surname and I wondered if he had had three wives or were there actually three males. I then started to pull all this family's data from the register and discovered that indeed there were three William's and that my William had had just the one child - my 3x great grandmother. His wife died young (only the first name known) and I copied the Poor Law just to see if it would be helpful. I haven't found his marriage and that is a necessary next step. I wasn't successful this time but I need to look at six areas in Leicester where this family name occurs and find him in one of them. The surname is relatively unusual but the name William is a common one in the family. With that my day was finished in the library.
Tonight we were going to attend the Mormon Tabernacle Choir rehearsal so finished up by 8:00 p.m. to get ready to do so. A quick supper and we were there by 8:45 p.m. A most fascinating evening and a not to be missed event if you are in Salt Lake City.
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