Seventh Generation completed

 One more item proving the line of John Siderfin Junior married to Mary Chapman was their Marriage Contract witnessed by John Siderfin Junior of Wootton Courtney, Robert Siderfin of Timberscombe and George Chapman of Wootton Courtney. With that there is sufficient proof that he was the son of John 6 Siderfin (Robert 5, William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). One more small hiccup was the children of Robert Siderfin and Elizabeth (Question) Siderfin. James Sanders had a Joan Siderfin as one of their daughters but she is not mentioned in either will abstract. Not sure whom she actually is but she married John Passmore at Minehead which was a little unusual for this family which generally married in Selworthy or Wootton Courtney. That being resolved the addition of the new John Siderfin Junior married to Joan (unknown) and being a likely older son of John Siderfin Junior married to Mary Chapman worked out very well without a lot of reworking. The two children that they baptized at Wootton Courtney were neatly moved to this John and a slight renumbering but no difficulty. What seemed like a major task quickly disappeared with the removal of Joan from James Sanders' Pedigree Chart as a daughter of Robert and Elizabeth (Question) Siderfin. Moving forward onto the Eighth Generation but will not do much today as yesterday was a heavy day on the fiche reader. These eyes are not getting any younger. 

No news yet on my eye tests perhaps another month or so although my daughter did mention that there is a long waiting list for the cataract replacement which was why I decided to follow through from the Optometrist recommendation and go ahead getting that started last January. It was a funny sort of thing as he said that he would recommend me next January but then said he had  not recommended me two years earlier because Edward was going to go for cataract surgery although my eyes also needed that. I usually go every year but it just didn't happen and ended up being two years. Like my colonoscopy last year I had let the office know I would go ahead in November last year and got the call with a date in late April so six months sounds like the waiting period for that particular procedure. Since I have had eye strain before when I spend too much time on the fiche reader I am not alarmed just need to rest my eyes today and it is the big cleaning day so that works very well. My sister said that the eyes get stronger before they start weakening. I can tell that my sight is not quite as good as it was and given my not really great sight without glasses I do pay attention. I used to be able to distinguish song birds readily that were half way down the back garden which is about 30 metres but now it is likely only 15 to 20 metres with my glasses on of course. Without glasses I would not be able to distinguish that. However, unlike when I was a child and could not read anything without glasses I can read large letters but it was probably more that I was only three or four years old and did not have a history of knowledge of letters to fall back on!

On to the day, jumping jacks, tea and then solitaire games if my eyes want to do that. Then jumping jacks once again and breakfast and cleaning. Sounds like a busy day. Still receiving about 100 emails a day some of which get put into a must do folder. I do answer all of them eventually; sometimes interesting tidbits come my way but mostly it is requests for information with probably 70% of them being either spam or close to it or groups that I belong to or political from the Conservatives or the Liberals. Interesting to read but I have my opinion of the kind of leaders that we need and fiscal conservatism comes high on that list. 

The most unforgiveable action

Although all of the acts performed against the Ukrainian people since Russia invaded their sacred land are criminal the one that is actually a crime against the world is the destruction of food. No country has the right to destroy food that would feed the millions. For that they should be condemned in the highest levels; the United Nations should condemn them for that action in particular. Let us now in this time of plenty condemn what could be the tipping point of our very existence in the future - the wanton destruction of food done out of jealousy and greed; the very imperatives of the Nazi Putin and his enablers. Very rapidly Putin is stripping from the history of the Russian people some of their great acts which they performed in the Second World War. Their Nazi invasion of Ukraine is unforgiveable as it continues; forgiveness can only come when the sacred land of Ukraine is free once again.

I was very pleased to see the Secretary General of NATO say what is the obvious - so long as Ukraine fights she is free; if Russia stopped fighting and left the sacred land of Ukraine then this war would be over. Glory to Ukraine and may she survive for ever. 

Yesterday I worked on the seventh generation of the Siderfin family. After a great deal of thought I have added an individual for whom there is no data other than a note in his step-grandmother's will that he had a daughter Joane. He has to be a new person because the parish registers of Wootton Courtney name the two children that were baptized by John and Joan Siderfin as Mary and Joane with Mary being buried before this will was written. I was trying to avoid doing that but of necessity and for a clean look I needed to add an individual whose name would be John because of two baptisms that do not belong to Robert Siderfin and Joanna (Kittener) Siderfin which is where James Sanders has placed the two baptisms. That lets me move forward through the Seventh Generation otherwise I am bogged down and that doesn't work when you are revising/editing/writing any book. John 6 Siderfin married twice with the first marriage in 1683 and the first known baptism from the marriage of John Siderfin and Mary (Chapman) Siderfin was Robert in 1688. Hard to believe there wasn't at least one child born before Robert and so it is a John to fit the available information (and to work timewise as the children were baptized in 1714 and 1716 (a John born between 1683 and 1688 would be 25 to 30 years old in 1713). I have no idea where the abstract for this will came from either although I suspect land records as the bulk of the step-Grandmother's estate went to Edmund Cording (no ideas of the relationship) and he was the executor. The property was primarily in Exton where she lived before marriage. 

Moving forward slowly but surely to the time when the Parish Registers were more complete and then the census with its incredible ability to give me a view into each household.  With the help of one of the descendants of the Robert-Thomas Line I hope to have as complete a listing as possible of the descendants of  the last male Siderfin with male children carrying on the Siderfin name - namely Robert Siderfin (born 1658) married to Elizabeth Question. For the most part the Siderfin family remained in Somerset into census time as far as I can tell and James Sanders had the same experience in his research as he could have had access to the census up to 1901. 

Chicken Stew last night and for the next three days as it makes so much. I do like chicken stew and went out and found a couple of dozen small carrots from the patch that we planted for the rabbits and added them as I had run out of carrots. The garden is definitely coming to an end although the sunflowers are still going strong but soon the seeds will be ready and the squirrels will harvest them. 

Another Sunday and Church on You-Tube. The Bible Readings have been mostly Old Testament that come into my mailbox each day. Perhaps I should start to read all of the daily readings instead of concentrating on the one sent to me by the Canadian Bible Society. Although I like to read the Old Testament it was written so long ago and the history surrounding much of those times is not as well known to me as the New Testament. Jumping Jacks and tea and a little computer time before breakfast.

Siderfin and location

Yesterday I spent quite a bit of time thinking about the Pedigree Chart that James Sanders included in his book. The beginning four generations can be put together from the available records and ending generations coming down from Robert Siderfin and Elizabeth (Question) Siderfin also flow quite well with a few limitations but that central fifth generation has always struck me as somewhat peculiar. I think yesterday I really concentrated on the property attached to their names for the first time now that I have looked so completely at the first four generations.

 Clearly, John Siderfin (Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) found on the Protestation Returns at Selworthy in 1641 but not paying a Somerset Lay Subsidy in 1642 at Selworthy is likely still in Selworthy.  He doesn’t appear anywhere else. I have not been able to identify a marriage for John and Thomasine and Thomasine is a common forename in this Somerset area in this time frame. John 5 (Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) was the younger son of Robert baptized in 1619 at Minehead and probably did not inherit anything from his father Robert other than a good education perhaps – this line does become schoolmasters in the generations to follow. Checking the Discovery Catalogue at the Archives of the United Kingdom does not reveal any material for a John Siderfin in this time frame (no property interactions). At this point in time the family drops into the background as they are not landowners and known to be schoolmasters at Selworthy. 

Looking then at the Pedigree Chart:

 This is one of the images that I took when we visited the Allen County Public Library in Illinois, USA in 2009. The opportunity to do so was something we did not wish to miss and I was still doing the Siderfin one name study and knew that there was a copy of James Sanders book at this library. I was not disappointed. Edward had a lot of Kipp material that he wanted to look at there and was hopeful that I would help with that I can remember and I did. My list was quite short since most of my families were recently in England so not really much material on my lines but there were a couple of books that I wanted to photograph. We spent four days in that library and really did glean a lot of interesting material for Edward and for myself. We went back again several years later and again acquired some interesting material. Definitely a library that should not be missed if the opportunity comes by. 

The Chart can be a little more clearly seen in this image than most of the other images that I have acquired. One is left to surmise that copies of this chart were hand formed and then bound in with the book. The top line of the chart on the left are the children of the Worth-Siderfin marriage in the William-Line (William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). That is pretty much all that you see of this line and I had not really concentrated on the property that was mentioned in the next large line directly below the Worth-Siderfin children. One notes that Robert married to Joanna Kittener is of East Lynch (Joanna is of Wotton Courtney) passing by John and Maria Winter and looking at Walter said to be of Timberscombe married to Alice Quirke of Minehead. Thinking back to Robert 5 (William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) and that Robert was on the Protestation Return at Timberscombe along with his son Robert. The Somerset Subsidy of 1642 also listed these two Roberts at Timberscombe. However, on this chart the Robert married to Joanna Kittener is listed as the son of a John Siderfin baptized 1656 at Wootton Courtney and his wife Mary. Finally lights are going on and I am thinking to myself what if James Sanders is mistaken and this is the second son of Robert at Timberscombe identified in his grandmother's will as John? For Robert married to Joanna Kittener to be at East Lynch he really needs to be descendant of the William-Line according to the usual practice of primogeniture and the passing of property from one generation to the next. Now John is the younger son but what if Robert 5 decided to split his property between his two sons - unusual but certainly did occur. Timberscombe was the larger property so East Lynch going to John sounds reasonable much more reasonable than it suddenly being owned by a descendant of the Robert - Line (namely Robert 4  (Robert 3, William 2, John 1) Robert 4 was generally found at Minehead and Wootton Courtney and his sons Robert 5 at Minehead/Wootton Courtney on any records and John 5 at Selworthy). 

 

One could wish for clearer images but not having an original copy of the book to take better closeup photos this has to suffice. Looking at this crop/enlargement of the left hand side of the chart above one notes the beginning of this line with John of Wootton Courty b about 1614 which doesn't work for the line that it actually goes back to namely Robert 4 (Robert 3, William 2, John 1). That John was baptized at Minehead in 1619. I actually conclude in my mind at this point that this John does not exist. There isn't a John baptized in 1614 at Wootton Courtney and to the best of my knowledge in 1614 this line is at Luxborough and Minehead principally. Looking up in Ancestry at the original Wootton Courtney registers which commence in 1558. The first mention of Siderfin in Wootton Courtney is Thomas Siderfin JP in the course of his duties as Justice of the Peace (Thomas 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). I did note the lack of baptisms and burials with most records in the earliest pages being banns and marriages. I do have the fiche for Wootton Courtney and Stoate's transcriptions. Whilst looking at these records on Ancestry I did note that individuals from Timberscombe did come to Wootton Courtney for marriages and as I looked through the fiche I discovered that the first Siderfin entry was John Siderfin son of John baptized 15 Jul 1656 (no entries prior to that date for Siderfin in baptisms and these registers started in 1558). Mary Syderfin is next 26 Jun 1714 daughter of John Siderfin junior and Joan. Baptisms for the children of this children continue over the next years. Most baptisms were at Luxborough in those early years with the change coming after the Commonwealth under Oliver Cromwell when all births were required to be registered at the secular office of a particular parish. However, a number of individuals continued to baptize their children at Church but did tend to be the more obscure parishes. Eventually, before publishing I will look at the original parish registers on fiche just to verify but want to have all my records in a file so that I do not miss any.  I continue with my suspicion that this John baptized at Wootton Courtney in 1656 was actually the son of John 6 (Robert 5, William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). The dates for this grouping John 6 to John 1 would look like circa 1630s, 1611, 1585, 1540s, 1510s, 1400s. A reasonable range of dates for these generations. 

Looking at the arrangement that James Sanders has created would be John baptized at Wootton Courtney in 1656 and the son of John 5, Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). The dates for this grouping would be 1619 (James Sanders has 1614), 1587, 1540s, 1510, 1400s. Not impossible John would have only been 42 (James Sanders 1614) or 37 (actual baptism for this John). Both scenarios work time wise. The only reason for the change is the presence of a Robert Siderfin married to Joanna Kittener at East Lynch which traditionally in this Siderfin family belonged to the William-Line (William 4). William 4's son Robert senior and his grandson Robert junior are found at Timberscombe both on the Protestation Return of 1641 and the Somerset Lay Subsidy of 1642. These two Roberts are found in the records at the Archives of the UK at Timberscombe and East Lynch as these two properties were apparently in the occupation of this Siderfin line in this time frame. This younger son of Robert 5 is mentioned in his grandmother Christian (Webber) Siderfin's will written in 1644 and probated in 1648. How the younger son acquired East Lynch I will now go back into the Records held by the Archives of the United Kingdom and see if there are any clues. I do know they exist for Robert Siderfin at Timberscombe and East Lynch just from memory but was John mentioned and I will obtain that answer. John 6 (Robert 5, William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) has named his son Robert and this baptism exists 15 Dec 1688 at Selworthy when his father would have been 30 years of age with his mother being an unknown Mary. That will be my next followup after checking out the Archives material. John Siderfin as a stand alone search name does not produce any results other than those already known from the 1500s. East Lynch does have a number of interesting records over a long time period but the Siderfin name does not form part of the search function. I will look at British History Online next. No information on East Lynch as a stand alone area in Somerset in British History Online. Genuki was my next choice and East Lynch does not have its own page but Timberscombe does. Checking out this website and then went to a search for East Lynch Farm and it is recorded as being at Selworthy with a history from post medieval to modern - 1540 AD to the present. East Lynch farm appears to be closer to Selworthy than Timberscombe but that doesn't affect who occupied it in the late 1600s into the 1700s. It does account for baptisms being celebrated at Selworthy though or Wootton Courtney which lies between Selworthy and Timberscombe. Having done this interesting survey I will, for the moment, go with the idea that the Robert at East Lynch, baptized at Selworthy, son of John and Mary (unknown) Siderfin is descendant of the William 4 line.

There are problems with this argument perhaps as Robert Siderfin at East Lynch could simply have picked up the lease as the actual ownership can not be determined from afar one would need to go through the land records. But given the status of John 5 (Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) at Selworthy as a schoolmaster it is unlikely that he would have had the financial ability to pick up the lease as it does appear to be a substantial property. Plus Thomasine names Robert Siderfin at East Lynch as a cousin rather than a sibling-in-law in her will abstract. So attaching Robert at East Lynch to the William-Line makes a lot of sense (and he would be the son of a cousin in that case). 

I think the next direction to go in is this marriage of a John Siderfin and Mary (unknown) parents of Robert at East Lynch in the latter part of the 1600s. Information available on James Sanders Pedigree Chart for John b 1656 and for Mary b 1648 and died 1717. Checking out the text of James Sanders for any references to these two individuals that he has added to the book.  

1717. In Wootton Courtney church, on a stone in the floor of the nave: - Here lyeth the body of Mary, the wife of John Siderfin, of this Parish, who departed this life Oct. 3rd, 1717, aged 69 years.

I also found an item which likely directed James Sanders towards the idea that this John was descendant of the Robert 4 line. It is entitled by James Sanders as Freeholders in Selworthy: Now, besides the rector in right of his glebe, the only freeholders left in the parish other than the owner of the three manors, are the Clarke and Stoate families. The Clarkes, as already stated, have for a long period lived on their property at West Lynch (while a branch of their family have also occupied East Lynch) and have for many generations taken a leading and honourable part in the affairs of the valley. The Stoates, too, have been connected with the parish for a great number of years. The last of the Selworthy branch of the family, old "Counsellor Stoate," as he was always called, lived at Allerford and must have been somewhat of a character. He was also a man of considerable substance. Another old family connected with the parish is that of Siderfin. This family is probably an offshoot of the family of Siderfin of Croydon, in the parish of Timberscombe, a family of some importance in our district in the seventeenth century.

The reference to Siderfin of Croydon is the Thomas 4 line and no ideas on why this might direct James Sanders towards the Robert 4 line for John Siderfin baptized 1656 at Wootton Courtney. Somewhat confusing perhaps to refer to the Siderfin family at Croydon at this point in time but is perhaps just linking all the Siderfin families together. The Clarke family married into the Siderfin family in 1787 with the marriage of John Siderfin and Sarah Clarke at Selworthy. John was the son of Robert Siderfin and Grace (Kent) Siderfin (my 4x great grandparents). At this point in time with Robert Siderfin at East Lynch dying without heirs in 1715 the land may have reverted back in the family although one would have expected it to go to the Worth-Siderfin descendants it became the property of the Clarke family (they could have purchased it for sure or leased it). Only by doing an extensive land search at Taunton could one determine that. But at this point in time (late 1700s) it does appear that the land now belongs to the Clarke family as James Sanders mentions in his "Freeholders in Selworthy" section. He is writing this in the early 1900s and this paragraph refers to that moment in time more than 100 years after the marriage of John Siderfin and Sarah Clarke 4 Jun 1787 at Selworthy. There will be more information on this John Siderfin and East Lynch as we reach his generation. 

Back to the marriage of John Siderfin and Mary (unknown) now that I have gleaned any information from James Sander's text on this couple. Along with this look at the registers, I will alter my one name study Legacy File to reflect these changes. I do begin to feel as if I am more in tune now with this descent in the Siderfin lines. That I may need to read all of these parish registers will be an interesting adventure but for the moment I will use the transcriptions as they are certainly very well done; I do not think I have ever really found any errors in the transcriptions. 

A John Siderfin Junior of Wootton Courtney Farmer married Mary Chapman of Wootton Courtney at West Monkton  27 Mar 1683 (Banns read). This is signed by John Siderfin, Robert Siderfin and George Chapman. This record found on Ancestry. Time wise it could fit into this chart because John was baptized in 1656 and his wife is listed as born in 1648 so they would be 27 and 35 respectively. Only one child is shown for this couple (if correct) on James Sanders Pedigree Chart. Who is the Robert Siderfin signing? There is a possibility that it could be Robert Siderfin baptized 1658 at Selworthy or it could be the uncle of this John if he is the son of John 6 (Robert 5, William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) as he had a brother Robert 6 - both named in the will of their grandmother Christian (Webber) Siderfin in 1644/probated 1648. And he would be be John Junior as his father was John 6 (Robert 5, William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). Why they marry at West Monkton is perhaps a mystery as it is 53 kilometres from Selworthy. But I did find a marriage so somewhat interesting actually. Their son Robert (if this couple is correct and the surname Siderfin is fairly uncommon) was baptized 15 Dec 1688 at Selworthy. Figuring out the Robert Siderfin males in the 1600s and 1700s is a challenge but I am beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel. Robert Siderfin married Joanna Kittener 25 Apr 1713 in Wootton Courtney. James Sanders has two other children for this couple namely John of Wootton Courtney who married Maria Winters and she apparently left a will probated in 1733 - married in 1718 and no date of birth for John. The other child was Walter of Timberscombe b 1892 and died 1732 and he married Mary Quirke of Minehead perhaps married 1717 at Luxborough and her will probated 1768. 

Looking first at John Siderfin of Wootton Courtney and given that Robert is said to be elder brother was baptized 1689 I will check the parish registers for a John in the time frame from 1683 (John Siderfin junior married Mary Chapman) to the death of Mary in 1717 and perhaps a little longer. No baptism for this John although there is a marriage for a Johannes Syderfin and Maria Winter 11 Dec 1718 at Exton, Somerset and John Syderfin is of Wootton Courtney. James Sanders has so indicated this on the Pedigree Chart. 

Looking second at Walter Siderfin said to be of Timberscombe born 1692 and died 21 Mar 1731 and he was buried in All Saints Selworthy, Somerset, England and he was married to Mary Quirke of Minehead at Luxborough in 1717. This couple baptized a son Robert at Minehead 2 Feb 1718 and he appears to have died in 1746. The marriage on Find My Past 25 Jan 1717 at Luxborough with the groom of Timberscombe and the bride Alice Quircke of Minehead. Alice has left a will which may prove interesting as one of her sisters married into the Question family but it is not particularly helpful with the Siderfin family other than reinforcing that it was she who married Walter Siderfin: 

Recorded: 29th November 2005/23 Mar 2023
Source: National Archives, UK, PROB 11/942/259
Place: Periton, Minehead, Somerset, England
Type of Record: Will
Dated: 21st November 1768, probated, probated 30 Sep 1768

Alice Siderfin

1    In the Name of God Amen
2    I Alice Siderfin of Periton within the parish of Minehead
3    in the County of Somerset widow being sick of Body but
4    of sound and perfect mind and memory praised to God for
5    the same do make and ordain this my last will and
6    Testament in manner and form following that is to say
7    first and principally I commend my Soul into the handes
8    of almighty God my Creator hoping through the merits of
9    Jesus Christ to obtain pardon and remission of all my
10    Sins and to inherit Everlasting life and my body I commit
11    to the Eart to be decently buried at the discretion of my
12    Executor herein afternamed in the Chancel of the parish
13    Church of Minehead as near to the Body of my Mother
14    Mary Quirke deceased as conveniently may be and as to
15    such worldly goods and temporal Estate as God has been
16    pleased to bestow upon me. I give devise and dispose thereof
17    as follows First I will and order that all such just debts as I
18    shall incure at the time of my decease shall be paid and
19    satisfied and whereas by virtue of my marriage settlement made
20    on my intermarriage with my husband Walter Siderfin   I am
21    seized in Fee Simple of and in certain lands tenements and
22    hereditaments situate lying and being in the parish of Withycombe
23    in the County aforesaid now in the tenure or
24    occupation of Robert Slocombe. I give devise and bequeath the
25    same unto my nephew John Short of Minehead aforesaid
26    apothecary and to his heirs and assigns to the use of the said
27    John Short his Sons and assigns for ever upon the trusts and to
28    and for the said intents and purposes hereinafter mentioned expressed
29    and declared (that is to say) In Trust and to and for the use
30    and Benefit of my Cousin Robert Quirke Short (first Son of
31    my said Nephew John Short) and his Heirs for ever But in
32    case he shall happen to die before he shall attain his age
33    of twenty one years then I give devise and bequeath the
34    same unto my said Nephew John Short In Trust and to
35    and for the use and Benefit of my Cousin John Short Second
36    son of my said Nephew John Short and his heirs for ever
37    But in case he shall also happen to die before he shall attain
38    his age of twenty one years then I give devise and bequeath
39    the same unto my said Nephew John Short In trust and to
40    and for the use and Benefit of my Cousin Samuel Short Third
41    son of my said Nephew John Short and his Heirs for ever
42    but in case he shall also happen to die before he attains
43    his age of twenty one years then I give devise and bequeath
44    the same unto my said my Cousin Augustine Question Short and his heirs for ever but in case they shall all happen to dye before they again the age of twenty one years Then I give devise and bequeath the same to my nephew the said John Short in Trust and to and for the use and benefit of Nephew John Short In Trust and
45    to and for the use and Benefit of all such other Child or
46    Children of the Body of my Nephew the said John Short on
47    the Body of Elizabeth Short his now wife begotten or to
48    be begotten and to their heirs and assigns for ever to be
49    equally divided between them share and share alike
50    and Whereas I am also seized in Fee Simple of and in certain
51    Lands Tenements and hereditaments situate lying and being
52    in the parish of Old Cleve called or known by the name of
53    Endley now in the Tenure or occupation of Robert Slocombe
54    I also give devise and bequeath the same unto my said Nephew
55    John Short and his heirs for ever upon the Trusts and to
56    and for the new Intents and purposes hereinafter also
57    mentioned and expressed that is to say In trust and to and for the use
58    and Benefit of my Cousin the above named Robert Quirke
59    Short and his heirs of ever But in case he shall happen
60    to die before he shall attain his said age of twenty one
61    years then In trust and to and for the use and Benefit of
62    my said Cousin the above named John Short and his heirs
63    for ever But in case he should also happen to die before he
64    shall attain that age then In Trust and to and for the use
65    and Benefit of my Cousin the abovenamed Samuel Short
66    and his heirs for ever But in case he shall likewise
67    happen to die before he shall attain his said age of twenty
68    one years then I give devise and bequeath the same unto
69    my said Nephew the said John Short and his heirs for
70    ever In Trust and to and for the use and Benefit of my
71    said Cousin the above named Augustin Question Short and
72    his heirs and assigns forever But in case they shall all
73    happen to die before their said age of twenty one years
74    then I give devise and bequeath the same to my said nephew
75    the said John Short In trust and to and for the
76    use and Benefit of all such other Child or Children of
77    the Body of my Nephew the said John Short
78    begotten or to be begotten on the Body of the said Elizabeth
79    his now wife and to their heirs and assigns for ever to
80    be equally divided between them share and share alike
81    and Lastly all the Rest Residue and Remainder of
82    Lands Tenements and hereditaments Goods or
83    Chattels Real and personal Estate Moneys and Securities
84    Money whatsoever or wheresover they be and which
85    shall be my my now entitled unto at the time of my death
86    I do devise and bequeath the same unto my said
87    nephew the said John Short whom I do hereby ordain and constitute
88    desire and appoint whole and sole Executor and
89    to see my Legacies of this my last Will and Testament
90    hereby revoking all former wills Bequests and Legacies by
91    any way heretofore made bequeathed or given
92    and do make and declare this only to be my last Will
93    and testament In trust nevertheless and to and for the
94    use and benefit of all and every such Child or Children
95    of the body of the said John Short on the Body of the said Elizabeth
96    his now Wife begotten or to be begotten equally to
97    be divided between them share and share alike As they
98    may respectively attain their age of twenty one years
99    my will further is and I do hereby order and direct that
100    all the Rents and profits of the said Estates and all the
101    interest of the Moneys or so much thereof as shall be
102    requested and necessary for that purpose shall be paid
103    and applied for and towards the Maintenance and
104    education of such Child or Children until they shall respectively
105    attain their age of twenty one years and at the time that
106    either of them attain his or her said age of twenty
107    one years then my will is that his or her share or shares
108    shall be paid unto him or her so attaining that age But
109    in case or either of them shall happen to dye before he
110    or she shall attain such age then his her or their Share
111    so dying shall be paid to and be equally divided amongst
112    the Survivor or Survivors of them share and share alike
113    In Witness thereof I the said Alice Siderfin the Testator
114    have to this my last Will and Testament set my hand
115    and Seal this twenty first day of April in the year of our
116    Lord one thousand seven hundred and sixty six Alice Siderfin
117    Signed Sealed published and declared by the above named
118    Alice Siderfin the Testatrix to be her last Will and
119    Testament in the presence of us who have subscribed our
120    names as Witnesses thereunto in her presence and in the
121    presence of each other of us Thos Leigh, Mary Leigh
122    Alexander Briant
123    This Will was proved at London on the thirtieth day
124    of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven
125    hundred and sixty eight before the Knight worshipful George
126    Hay doctor of Laws Master Keeper or Commissary of the
127    Prerogative Court of Canterbury lawfully constituted by
128    the oath of John Short the sole Executor named in the said
129    will to whom Administration of al and singular the
130    Goods Chattels and Credits of the said deceased
131    was granted he having been first sworn by Commission
132    duly to administer Ex

I did locate the death of Walter Siderfin 21 Mar 1731 and buried at All Saints Selworthy. He is on the same brass as another Siderfin. The Brass reads: Here lyeth the body of Robert Siderfin son of Robert Siderfin Gent and Elizabeth his Wife Who departed this life the 20th day of Jan 1714 Aged 25 years. Here lyeth the body of Walter Siderfin who departed This Life the 21st day of Mar 1731 Aged 40 years. Why are they on the same brass? is the question that comes to my mind. Are Walter and Robert brothers? The answer does appear to be yes but the brass has Robert as the son of Robert and Elizabeth Siderfin. This could take me back to square one which was my thought earlier that these two men were the grandsons of Robert Siderfin baptized 1616 at Minehead older brother to John Siderfin baptized 1619 at Minehead. I did rather like the other concept so now I must determine what I can about this brass memorial. I am bothered by the Robert Siderfin who died in 1714 and was living at East Lynch and his brother Walter (according to James Sanders) who lived at Timberscombe. They are occupying land known to be in the possession of the Willian Line principally Robert 5 (William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) as late as 1662. This line still existed into the early 1700s so it does seem strange that the land would have switched into a different Siderfin line.

At this point it would be timely to look at the will of Maria (Winter) Siderfin (wife of John Siderfin). Robert and Walter are said to be brothers to this John Siderfin.

1733. Mary Siderfin, of Exton, wife of John Siderfin, of the same parish, tanner. Whereas before my intermarriage with my said husband by my Deed indented and bearing date the 8th Dec., 1718, I did assign and settover certain leasehold tenements or estates, ietc., unto Edmund Cording, of Exton, and George Langdon, of Winsford, in trust for the several uses, ends, intents, etc., therein mentioned. I give etc., unto my husband's granddaughter, Joane Siderfin, ten pounds. To my cozen, Anne Hobbs, the younger, of Winsford, 40s. To Edward Barnes, the younger of Exton, 10s. All the rest residue and remainder of my said leasehold tenements or estates and all other goods, etc., etc., unto Edmund Cording, the younger (son of aforesaid Ed Cording) to and for his own proper use for ever. And I do make him, the said Ed Cording the ye sole Executor.
Will dated 7th January, 1729.

An interesting will as it implies that her husband John had a son with a daughter and that she was a second wife. I would say this brother to Robert and Walter on James Sanders chart does not exist and is rather the John Siderfin who married Mary Chapman and one can see that his occupation is tanner since he was a younger son that would be expected. This John Siderfin is perhaps still living in 1729 as the will was dated 7 Jan 1729. This John would be the John baptized in 1656 son of John Siderfin. I feel quite confident removing him from this particular spot. I am also not uncomfortable with having Robert and Walter sons of Robert Siderfin rather than this brother John Siderfin who was a tanner and continuing with the thought that this is the William Line. It works even better actually as I rather thought this Robert Siderfin had married Elizabeth Blackford. Crisis averted and I will soon produce a new Chart of the William Line and the Robert Line. Everything is falling nicely into place with just a little extra proof for my initial thought. That leaves John 6 younger brother to Robert 6 son of Robert 5 (William 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) as the husband of Maria Winter and a tanner and the property at Timberscombe and East Lynch with his older brother Robert as shown on the various subsidies/returns. The mention of a granddaughter to Maria (Winter) Siderfin's husband John is interesting as it does put another hindrance against this John being in the Robert Line since that John would most likely be the husband of Thomasine and father of Robert Siderfin born at Selworthy in 1658 although Robert and Elizabeth had a daughter Joana I find it difficult to believe she would only remember the one child when they had nine children (and Joanna was buried in 1698 at the age of eight years). Next step is to have a look at the original register for Selworthy just to see what I might be able to find as that would be handy although already interpreted by others as the record for the Baptism of Robert Siderfin married to Elizabeth Question and son of Thomazine as mentioned in her will.

Time for a 40 minute run; the day has turned out quite well. We had rain and no smoke but it may return tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

No surprises there

 An interesting day of research and of life in the world; there were no surprises just confirmations in both. No matter how nice people are in the world their inability to be flexible always rises to the surface even when you give them due respect at what they could do and claim to want to do; I can always be proven wrong in that regard; we are a forgiving type of people when people do the right thing. No matter what those who wish evil and commit evil do to the world the goodness always permeates the atmosphere because God is there waiting and watching. His strength is our strength. In the long run it is all about God and not about evil. We just, as Homo sapiens, have to look beyond the evil that lies in vicious greedy war mongering autocrats and keep the faith. Right now it is the people of Ukraine who need that faith and constant support because if we do not then they fall to evil. Life could be so very good for all the world except for evil. The greedy war mongering autocratic types of the world do horrendous and dreadful deeds all for greed for themselves and their enablers.

Today President Biden visits Canada. One has to really be impressed by him because he had the tenacity, the courage and the faith to go to Ukraine to support them, listen to them, be there for them and he is 80 years of age. The same for Prince William, younger, just 40, with three small children, no hiding behind royal palaces and all that protection; he went to Poland to visit the British troops there and everyone else. We have really wonderful leaders in our world and then there are the ones who appear to be only evil.

Now for the interesting day of research and as I complete each generation in a manner that best suits the available data the next generation gives me new challenges that just need to be solved or stated so that in the future the opportunity might be there to look at ever more records and solve that interesting presentation of data. I am now into James Sanders' comments on the descendants of Thomas (Robert 3, William 2, John 1) who lived in both London and Croydon as well as Wheddon. Both lines appear to daughter out in James Sanders' writings and his chart. But he does mention that Robert (Thomas 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) at Croydon had two sons with, interestingly, the same names as the sons of Robert (Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). Lots of looking at land records, transcribing a couple of wills I did not do before and looking at exact data in Find My Past. No more work yet on the 2424 hits on Find my Past; still at Page 35. It is interesting though that James Sanders' chart does not have these two sons attached to Robert (Thomas 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). These two forenames (in an appropriate time) are named as the sons of John (Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) who was baptized 15 Jul 1656 at Wootton Courtney and married to Mary a marriage not yet located by me but I continue to look. So was it just an error on James Sanders part to list them in the book since he doesn't have them on the chart? An interesting conundrum for sure and the land records certainly do not give me anything to convince me that these two individuals existed as the sons of Robert (Thomas 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1); they are not named in their father's will nor in their step-mother's will. 

Continuing in this frame I will spend the day on research in God's world. Thank you God for all that you give to us. May the world survive the foolish war mongers that are now amongst us. Life could be so good for the world; that was the aim of extending the olive branch to mainland China way back in my youth now. To help them to become a more industrialized nation and part of the world. Always always it seems to be thrown back at us these gifts of friendship and help but your faith helps us to keep moving forward to that uplifted plain where there is peace for all mankind. May the United Nations solve the problems of the world; the world is there for everyone not just the war mongers.

Continuing on yesterday's theme - The Siderfin Family at Minehead, Selworthy, Wootton Courtney

Placing John (baptized 1656 at Wootton Courtney) and William (married to Mary Terrel 23 Feb 1692 at Selworthy) as children of Robert (baptized 1616 at Minehead, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) fits in with James Sanders chart in terms of the two being brothers, but Thomasine does not mention them so they do not appear to be siblings to her son Robert. This group of three Siderfin males cluster around Selworthy/Wootton Courtney/Minehead and that will be the case for all members of this family grouping into the 1800s. Although they are perhaps first cousins in the 5th generation I do not get a sense looking at the records in the 1700s that these families remain close. 

Unfortunately the full wills for Robert Siderfin (John 5, Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) whose will was dated 4 Feb 1731/32 and that of  his wife Elizabeth (Question) Siderfin whose will was dated 9 Dec 1738 did not survive. Only an abstract remains and checking the contents of James Sanders' fonds at the Devon Record Office, the full wills are not present in his material. 

Robert Siderfin, Selworthy, yeoman. Will dated 4th Feby., 1731-2, proved 9th August, 1732. Mentions 4 sons, Robert, John, Augustine and Thomas and three daughters, Elizabeth Goodgroom, Jane Siderfin, and Susanna Kent, all rest to my wife Elizabeth sole executrix.
Witness: Thomas Trill and Thomas Kent

Elizabeth Siderfin, Selworthy, widow, dated 9th Decr. 1738. Mentions daughters Jane, Elizabeth Goodgroome, Susanna Kent; sons, Robert,  John, Thomas, Augustine.

The wife of William (Mary (Terrel) Siderfin) left her will dated 18 Jun 1746.

 Mary Siderfin, Minehead, widow of William Siderfin, no mention of children or lands, dated 18th June, 1746, sealed (3 cups).

From this will one can assume (but not prove) that William was older than his likely brother Robert mentioned in the first paragraph of this blog. He is using the Siderfin family crest:

How far back can one see this family crest used would help to verify this suggested family line. William would likely need to be the eldest son of Robert (Robert 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1). Robert 4 was the second son of Robert 3 so all  male lines of William (Robert 3, William 2, John 1) would need to have died out if the crest was used by this William and before him his father Robert (William 2, John 1). The rules for using a crest were set up fairly early and one does see that a particular Arms of the Siderfin family was created for the marriage of Robert Siderfin (Thomas 4, Robert 3, William 2, John 1) and Anne Wittewronge (married 16 Jun 1687 St Nicholas Cole Abbey, London) daughter of Sir John Wittewrong of Rothamsted, Hertfordshire, Baronet. It appears from the text of James Sanders that the floor piece for the memorial stone at Selworthy for Anne (Wittewrong) Siderfin included a crest which was as follows:   Arms: three cups, Siderfin; impaling Bendy of fix, on a chief a bar indented, Wittewronge. The source of this reference: The History and Antiquities of the County of Somerset, collected from Authentick Records, and an actual Survey made by the late Mr. Edmund Rack. Adorned with a map of the County and engravings of Roman and other Reliques, Town-Seals, Baths, Churches, and Gentlemen’s Seats by the Reverend John Collinson, F.A.S. Vicar of Long-Ashton, Curate of Filton alias Whitchurch, in the County of Somerset and Vicar of Clanfield, in the County of Oxford. 3 Volumes; Printed at Bath: Printed by R. Cruttwell, 1791. Finding the first user of the coat of arms would be interesting.

Very much a novice in the usage of coats of arms, I do know that individual sons could apply for a coat of arms although they generally carried a mark (a difference) which showed them to be a subsidiary coat of arms to the original coat of arms (if I have that right, i.e. a younger son of the actual holder of the crest or a younger sibling). Thomas (Robert 3, William 2, John 1) left his will dated 6 Nov 1675:

 Thomas Siderfin the elder, of Luxborough, Somt., gent, Will dated 6th Nov., 1675. No proof. To be buried at Luxborough. To the poor £10. Johan my wife. My son Robert Siderfin. To my son Thomas Siderfin £50 and all my law books. To all my children "on peece of Barbary gould." My grandchild Da...(?) and Johan my wife Exixs. South Wheddon and grandchildren, Thomas and James Darch, £10 each; sealed three cups; £20 to poor of Carhampton; £20 do. poor of Dunster. 

Thomas also sealed his will with the Siderfin crest. In this time period perhaps the addition of a mark was not yet common to designate a younger son. No ideas on that although in the Blake family the same crest (as used by the Calne Blake family) was used by all in these early years - 1500s, 1600s and into the 1700s (but distinguishing marks were noted and will check to see when that began).

It does appear that William Siderfin (married to Mary Terrel who kindly left her will but again only an abstract) did use the main crest for this line but Mary does not mention any children in her will but they did baptize two children at Minehead (a son Robert and a daughter Mary who died as an infant (still checking on Robert); Mary's will was dated 18 Jun 1746 and she was a widow. The time period does seem very large as William married Mary Terrel 23 Feb 1692 at Selworthy. She (Mary) must have been a number of years younger than her husband if he was born circa 1660 (not yet found and if he is eldest would need to be before 1656). If married around 20 then she would have been 74 years of age with William (deceased at this time) had he lived so long being 87 (but a date of death in my chart shows 1723 for his year of death but must find the reference for that, he would then have been 63). 

The adventure continues and I must try to get into the Parish Registers a bit today to see what I can find. 

On to breakfast and a day of research and skiing perhaps. 

Back and forth between the third and fourth generations of Siderfin

Finished the cleaning yesterday and that went well. I am getting better at it by taking good breaks during the day. I am not quite so tired at the end of the day. At 77 one must take breaks I guess.

Did do some work on the Siderfin book. Today I need to do some footnoting just to make sure I have duly noted where I obtained the information. I think some of the issues that I have encountered in James Sanders book are of a proofreading nature. There are moments when text appears to be missing rather than in error and I suspect he did not type this book himself. Being a well-trained typist at a young age (I was just twelve when I learned to type properly and continued with that type of course work through my high school days - taking Business administration instead of Latin (I have my regrets now actually but not then) and sometimes I had to take the class early in the morning before the actual school day began because that was the only time that it could be timetabled and fortunately more people than myself decided this was a good idea or I would not have been able to continue as my course load was principally heading me towards University and Science. I love Science; I love Chemistry and also Physics and did study Honours Chemistry. At 16 my thoughts were to go into Medicine but that did change when I was 20 and got married. The medicine training I wanted was to enable me to go to Africa and be a Medical Missionary. When I did not go to Africa then my thoughts changed. But that was a long time ago now and I have no regrets in actual fact. Life flows where it flows and God leads us ever onward but my not going to Africa had more to do with my parents than my own decision but at 16 one must listen to one's parents as they mean well. 

But back to the Siderfin book and my need today to complete the footnoting in the Third generation text and finally fully on to the fourth generation. James Sanders book tends to go back and forth in the family time frame for various reasons. I think he was trying to find the link between the Selworthy branch and the earlier branch and the clues were in the Minehead Parish Registers which I have on fiche but I have mostly looked at the Index created from those registers. Perhaps today I will reach into the original registers and have a look at why he might not have attempted to do that type of research. The son that he gives to Robert (second son of Robert (will 1627)) is a John at Wootton Courtney who does not actually exist rather the child born to Robert and Ursula Webber and baptized at Minehead in 1614 is their daughter Wilmot. Interesting he has him at Wootton Courtney and I will check those Parish Registers because his statement in the book was a cheery " Shewing there was a John Siderfin at Selworthy in 1641." This section belongs to the Fourth Generation in the revised edition which is why I was back and forth yesterday between the two chapters. 

I would like to add some images to this revision and have done so giving proper credit along with location of the images (quite often Archive.org and Google Books and occasionally one of the Universities Library databases). The Saffin/Saffyn family were a new item for me in my working through some of the data which James Sanders provided as at Cutcombe where one would have expected to find Thomas Siderfin at South Wheddon a farm in that town I found a Thomas Saffin and a George Saffin. Checking the Protestation Returns there was a George Saffin but a Thomas Siderfin. So interesting and I did extract the 15 records for the Saffin family from the two sets of data. I may or may not put them into the revision but I will reference them so they are readily found. 

Other than that the day is ahead of me and I must accomplish as much as I can I am now into the second of three weeks I have allotted to this work. It is minus 21 degrees celsius so a good day to be inside. Breakfast awaits. 

Finally into the Fourth Generation and moving ahead. I think I have collected up all the material that James Sanders had in his book for the Third Generation but time will tell!

What if we could put monitoring type equipment on an asteroid

Waking this morning early and hearing the news that an asteroid flew within 2600 kilometres above the Earth.  Asteroid 2023BU (3.8 by 8.5 metres) flew by at 53,000 km/hr (approximately) early this morning with its closest trajectory just across the southern hemisphere nearest to the southern tip of South America. What if we could put imaging equipment on an asteroid that could show us its travels around the universe? The asteroid was first reported by a citizen scientist (amateur stargazer) - Gennadiy Borisov at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory in Nauchnyi, Crimea. Great work! Now if we could only harness that piece of rock and let it tell its story of travels around the universe. We are not there yet but we could be if everyone put their mind to what is important in this universe.

Yesterday, once again, great accomplishment on the extraction of material from the Somerset Protestation Returns - the originals are available online at the Parliamentary Archives Library and I have a CD with the transcriptions. Although only 1/3rd of these records are extant they just happen to be the area in which I am most interested. That extraction is now complete and I have moved onto the subsidies of 1641 and 1642 also on the CD. The extraction of that material precedes again today. 

With two sets of information confirming Robert Siderfin in Minehead and his two sons - one at Minehead  and Wootton Courtney and the second at Selworthy - I will try to discover if their sister Wilmot married at Minehead. I need to check the burials there as well. There was also lots of information on the William line at Luxborough and the Thomas line. Still working through all the information and I need to spend some time on the fiche for these early parish registers which I purchased years ago now but set aside when I let my cousin have the one-name study for Siderfin. But, if I can, I would like to update James Sanders' book and move it on to this next century knowing that sometime in the future another will pick up the challenge and carry the Siderfin family forward in time. After all, I, an uninterested person in genealogy until 2003, have been an avid searcher since then scouring the records for information. All it took really was my cousin twisting my arm to do a profile for one of the many profiles in the Westminster and Delaware History Books that he was editing and the Siderfin family came to light once again as the name had been forgotten in my line. But along with that profile, DNA testing came to the forefront and initially not really greeted with the enthusiasm it later would create, you pretty much need to do your DNA to have a study now!

I hope to work up the Fourth Generation with its breakdown into four subsets in the next two weeks and then on to the Fifth Generation. Each one a little more difficult and possibly less evidence - time will tell - but eventually in some of the lines I will get to the Census from 1841 on and then more information available once again. For my Siderfin line when Elizabeth (Betty) Siderfin married John Rew she basically drops out of the Siderfin line and into the Rew line and it was her daughter Elizabeth Rew who married John Pincombe so my line is back quite aways in actual fact which was another reason to give it to my cousin at the time (his surname was Siderfin). Elizabeth Rew was born in 1801 over two hundred years ago (she and her twin sister Charlotte) but their descendants carry some lengths of DNA that pass on and on through the endless line of people who descend from her. 

I had forgotten that I do have the two subsidies for Somerset on disc and so have also extracted Blake from the data along with Siderfin and a number of other names. But I still hope to get into the Family Search Library to extract Blake from the many other subsides. This particular disc has a list of all the subsidies that were taken during several hundred years and has information on the status extant or not that is rather helpful. 

So another day of extraction and perhaps sneaking a look at the Minehead fiche - luckily an index was created for Minehead that I also purchased on fiche which makes that rather a treat to look at. My eyes have been strong through all of this searching although I keep it up for perhaps 30 to 40 minutes and then take a break - a good walk around and about. 

A bit early for breakfast; I have had my cup of tea so shall perhaps wander around for a bit. Solitaire games all played as that is generally my first thing to do but when I went to prepare my tea I generally turn on the news to see what is happening in the world and there it was - that lovely asteroid story and into my mind jumped the idea of putting monitoring equipment on such asteroids as they wheel about the universe. What would we see? would it be a worthwhile effort? I think that anything that lets us see the universe is worthwhile! Must get the telescope out one of these days - the nights are rather cold at the moment though. I prefer my binoculars in the winter for sure.

Robert Siderfin (1726 - 1788)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 13

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, unknown, Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, Durnford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterel, Bartlett, Alderman, Ann (unknown), Sherwood, unknown, Habberfield, Collings, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Canham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Perhaps one of my most intriguing surnames in my decade of searching my ancestors has been Siderfin. Siderfin is one of my families that has been published. Although my line is incorrect (as is the authors), the author has done a tremendous job of bringing together all the extant records for this family and prior to the bombing of the Devon Record Office in 1942. I would like to go into the Record Office one day and see his files which were donated by his family after WWII so they are still intact. He supplies only abstracts of most wills and it would be handy to see if he actually transcribed some of the wills. James Sanders, JP, lived at South Molton, Devon. His book was titled: History of the Siderfin Family of West Somerset. It was published at Exeter by W J Southwood and Co., Dynamo Works in 1912.

Robert Siderfin was my 4x great grandfather. Not a lot is known about Robert. He was baptized 23 Jun 1726 at Cutcombe where his father Augustine taught school. His mother was Mary Davies and Augustine and Mary were married 29 Apr 1720 at Cutcombe. Robert was their second child, John Siderfin, the eldest, was baptized 14 Jan 1722 also at Cutcombe. Robert married Grace Kent 5 Feb 1752 at Selworthy (Selworthy was the home of Grace Kent). He and Grace baptized nine children (the first John baptized 1753 died young) but this is rather interesting as they were baptized in several different villages. It made me wonder if Robert was also a school teacher. Certainly his grand daughter Elizabeth Rew was a school teacher at Bishops Nympton and his father a teacher at Cutcombe. All of these children signed their marriage registrations including Elizabeth Siderfin the daughter of Robert Siderfin and Grace Kent and my ancestor. Elizabeth married John Rew 30 Jan 1792 at Selworthy. Their daughter Elizabeth Rew married John Pincombe at Bishops Nympton. Their son William Robert was my great grandfather.

The earliest record for this family found by James Sanders was in the Hundred Rolls of Somerset in the 4th year of the reign of Edward I (1274) and that Robert de Sidernefenne paid rent in the free manor of Brigford (now Brushford) Somerset. The name Sidernefenne is thought to mean the corner or side of the valley by the fen or swamp. He found nothing further for this family in Somerset until the mid 1500s. They were then located in the Manor of Luxborough and it was a William Sidervin (then deceased) with widow Wilmot Foster (now deceased at the time of the application) and the lord of the manor was John Foster. The son of William was Robert Siderfinne and he was applying for a lease of land held formally by his parents. Wilmot was a daughter of the grandfather of John Foster. The family was at Luxburough but there is no legal evidence of how this particular case was resolved.

There is a family tree in the book which commences with John Siderfin and Christian his wife of Luxburough and they were the parents of William Sidervin married to Wilmot Foster. They had a son Robert and a daughter Jone (married to Webber). Robert and his wife had six children: William, Robert, Thomas, Janet, Elizabeth and Joan.  The line that my family possibly descends from appears to come down from Robert married to Priscilla Webber (Robert lived between 1587 and 1636). They had a son John who lived at Wootton Courtney and was b circa 1614. This John may have been the father of John b 1656 at Wooton Courtney, Robert b 1658 at Selworthy (married to Thomasine) and William b 1660 at Minehead. However the chart that was produced in the book does not really answer that question.

My own line begins with Robert married to Thomasine but I do not think he was b 1658. He is more likely born in the mid 1630s as his son is Robert b 1658 and married to Elizabeth Question (not Elizabeth Blackford as is written in the chart). Elizabeth Question was the daughter of Augustine Question and it is their son Augustine that is my ancestor.

Correcting the book by Sanders is an important part of my Siderfin research.

Ancestry of Robert Siderfin

1.  Elizabeth BLAKE
2.  Helen Louise PINCOMBE
3.  John Routledge PINCOMBE (b 10 Sep 1872)- Lobo Township Middlesex County Ontario Canada
4.  William Robert PINCOMBE (b 11 Jun 1837)- Molland Devon England
5.  Elizabeth (Betsey) REW (b 20 Dec 1801) - Selworthy Somerset England
6.  Elizabeth (Betty) SIDERFIN (b 19 Jun 1759) - Selworthy Somerset England
7.  Robert SIDERFIN (b 23 Jun 1726) - Cutcombe Somerset England
8.  Augustine SIDERFIN (b 27 Dec 1692) - Selworthy Somerset England
9.  Robert SIDERFIN (b 3 Aug 1658) - Selworthy Somerset England
10. Robert SIDERFIN circa 1630s

Sarah Moggridge (1731 - 1807)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 6

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, unknown, Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, Durnford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterel, Bartlett, Alderman, Ann (unknown), Sherwood, unknown, Habberfield, Collings, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Canham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Purely accidental that I have chosen another 4x great grandmother but Sarah Moggridge rather intrigued me.The surname was a new one for me although I had seen it in Devon near Bishops Nympton. The discovery of my Somerset ancestors was a real surprise. Etched in stone on the memorial stone of John Pincombe and Elizabeth Rew (my emigrant ancestors from Devon) were the words "Native of Devon." A good deal of lost time was spent initially looking for an Elizabeth Rew/Rue (the spelling of her name appeared to be in doubt on this side of the Atlantic). But eventually I learned about PCC wills and quickly found a will for a John Rew probated in 1848 where he mentioned his daughter Elizabeth Pincombe. In his will he asked to be taken back from Sheepwash where he was living with his son Thomas and family to Selworthy to be buried as close as possible to his wife. That was my first clue that Elizabeth Rew was from Somerset. Serendipitously I surmised that perhaps the reason that I found John Pincombe and his sons John and William on the 1841 census at Molland Devon by themselves (wife and Elizabeth, an infant, missing) was because Thomas and his sister Elizabeth Pincombe had gone to Selworthy to bring John to live with Thomas. I indeed did find them on the census at Upper Hopcott Farm, Wootton Courtney with the aunt of Elizabeth Ann (Siderfin) Nurcombe, an uncle Robert Siderfin, Elizabeth's brother Thomas and a number of children belonging to all of these families.

Further research brought me back to Selworthy as the place of birth for Elizabeth Rew as the daughter of John Rew and Elizabeth Siderfin (married 30 Jan 1792 at Selworthy). John Rew was the son of John Rew and Sarah Moggridge (married 25 Jun 1761 at Selworthy). I have the fiche for this parish register and it reads:

The Banns of Marriage between John Rue and Sarah Moggridge were duly published in this Church Sunday the 31st of May for the 7th of June and for the 14th of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and sixty one by me Nath: Brice Curate

John Rue and Sarah Moggridge were married with Banns the 25th of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Sixty one Nath: Brice Curate.

This marriage was solemnized between us John Rew Sarah Rew in the presence of Betty Brice and William Hide.

Searching through the Selworthy Parish Registers I did find a Sarah Moggridge baptized 28 Dec 1731 daughter of Symon and Mary Mogridge. I found a burial for Sarah at Selworthy 31 May 1807 which read Sarah Rew widow 74 years which gives her a birth year of 1732. Moggridge is not a common name in the Selworthy Parish Records and I found just the two baptisms in this register  one for older sister Mary and Sarah. Simon Mogridge married Mary Phelp 9 Feb 1724 at Selworthy (and this is the only Moggridge marriage in this time period) and both are buried at Selworthy Simon 9 Nov 1766 and Mary Mogridge 11 Jul 1762.

Sarah and John baptized six children at Selworthy:

Mary 26 Jul 1762
Sarah 7 Feb 1764 (married William Bricknole 19 Sep 1778 at Selworthy)
John Rew 27 Feb 1766 (married Elizabeth Siderfin 30 Jan 1792 at Selworthy)
William Rew  13 Dec 1767
Betty 26 Dec 1769 (married John Kent 8 Jun 1805 at Selworthy)
Thomas 5 Apr 1772 (married Ann Horn 25 Oct 1803 at Selworthy)

Although Simon Mogridge married at Selworthy he does not appear in the baptisms at Selworthy. I found just one Symon Mogridge baptized in the latter part of the 1600s and that was at Culbone and I do not have the parish registers for Culbone so have not yet been able to verify that entry. It is from Marth Southwood's excellent transcriptions for west Somerset parishes:

http://www.wsom.org.uk/Registers/CulBap16861741.htm

Symon Mogridge son of David and Emot Mogridge baptized 28 Mar 1686. Two other sons Henry and John were baptized 2 Oct 1684 and 27 Dec 1692 and that is the extent of the baptisms for this couple at Culbone.

I do have the Porlock parish registers and did find Moggridge/Mogridge family members there. A number of entries are there for this family and another researcher looking at Mogridge/Moggridge has a blog discussing the Moggridge family.

http://mogbloglife.blogspot.ca/search/label/Moggridge

http://mogbloglife.blogspot.ca/search/label/Mogridge

He corrected me on one of my Moggridge lines and I have changed that item and thank you to him for the information.

I have not yet found the marriage of David and Emot.

Ancestry of Sarah Moggridge (beginning with myself):

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Helen Louise PINCOMBE (b 18 Oct 1916) - Westminster Township Middlesex County Ontario Canada
3. John Routledge PINCOMBE (b 10 Sep 1872)- Lobo Township Middlesex County Ontario Canada
4. William Robert PINCOMBE (b 11 Jun 1837)- Molland Devon England
5. Elizabeth (Betsey) REW (b 20 Dec 1801) - Selworthy Somerset England
6. John REW (b 27 Feb 1766) - Selworthy Somerset England
7. Sarah MOGGRIDGE (b 28 Dec 1731) - Selworthy Somerset England
8. Symon MOGRIDGE (b 28 Mar 1686) - Culbone Somerset England
9. David Mogridge ?



I reread the microfiche and do not feel any further ahead with the earlier ancestry of this family. Philip mentions Wootton Courtney in his blog and I also have the fiche for this parish.

Wootton Courtney Baptisms:

John Moggeridge son of Philip baptized 5 Sep 1630
Isott Moggeridge daughter of Philip baptized 28 Oct 1632
Robert Mogeradge son of Philip baptized 28 Mar 1635
Philip Mogridge son of Philip and Joan baptized 13 Feb 1636
Robert Mogridge son of Philip and Joan baptized 19 Aug 1638
Margaret Moggeridge daughter of Philip and Joan baptized 10 Jun 1640

Elizabeth Moggeridge daughter of David and Elizabeth baptized 25 Jul 1702
Robert Moggeridge son of David and Elizabeth baptized 1 Sep 1705
David Moggeridge son of David and Elizabeth baptized 14 Sep 1709
Joan Moggeridge daughter of David and Elizabeth baptized 23  May 1714
Henry Mogridge son of David and Elizabeth baptized 7 Feb 1718


William Moggridge son of John and Joan baptized 2 May 1743
Alice Moggridge daughter of Joan and Joan 21 Jan 1744
Robert Moggridge son of John and Joan 4 Feb 1746
Betty Moggridge daughter of John and Joan 4 May 1749

James Moggridge son of Henry and Joan 28 Jan 1764
Robert Moggeridge son of Henry and Joan 21 Nov 1766
Betty Moggeridge daughter of Henry and Joan 12 Mar 1769
Henry Moggridge son of Henry and Joan 28 Feb 1771
William Moggridge son of Henryu and Joan baptized 27 Feb 1774


Joan Moggridge daughter of William and Ann baptized Feb 1770
Ann Moggeridge daughter of William and Ann baptized 8 Nov 1772
 
Thomas and John Moggridge sons of William and Ann baptized 8 Jan 1774

Wootton Courtney Marriages

2 Nov 1695 Timothy Rew and Grace Moggeridge (parents of my John Rew so a second line)
25 Oct 1742 John Moggridge and Joan Allen
30 Apr 1757 Christopher Vicary and Elizabeth Mogridge
27 Apr 1769 William Moggridge and Ann Parish
22 Nov 1769 William Baker and Betty Moggridge
14 Apr 1777 William Moggridge and Sarah Roberts
15 Nov 1779 Henry Mogridge and Elizabeth Richards
12 Mar 1789 William Mogridge and Joan Brooks
16 May 1801 Thomas Hole and Joan Mogeridge

Burials at Wootton Courtney
2 May 1636 Robert Moggridge
27 Feb 1636 Philip Moggridge son of Philip
2 Aug 1638 Robert Moggeridge
15 Feb 1653 Philip Mogridge
22 Dec 1654 Joan Mogridge
11 Aug 1723 Robert Moggridge son of David
7 Nov 1732 David Moggeridge
10 Mar 1749 Joan Moggridge
15 Dec 1754 Elizabeth Moggridge
30 Apr 1760 John Moggridge
27 Feb 1763 Betty Moggeridge
23 Jan 1774 Ann Moggridge
23 Jan 1774 Thomas Moggridge
23 Jan 1774 John Moggridge
2 May 1774 James Moggridge
4 Jul 1774 Joan Moggridge
18 Dec 1774 William Moggridge
3 Nov 1776 Henry Moggridge
6 May 1787 Betty Moggridge
16 Jun 1801 Henry Moggridge
8 Feb 1806 Sarah Moggridge
22 Feb 1817 William Moggridge 73 years
26 Jan 1819 Elizabeth Moggridge 87 years 


I am left thinking that Grace Moggeridge is perhaps a descendant of Philip and Joan Moggeridge (perhaps a grand daughter since she married in 1695 and they had children between 1630 and 1640. She was perhaps born circa 1665 to 1675. She would need to be a daughter of John as he was the only son who survived.

Simon, the father of Sarah Moggridge, was possibly the Simon baptized in 1686 at Culbone. Culbone is seven miles from Wootton Courtenay and 3 miles from Porlock. I do have the parish registers for Porlock and the transcription for the early records but I really need to read them for myself to see all the Moggridge/Moggeridge entries.

It is rather interesting that the Rew family is found at Sheepwash and my Pincombe family at Molland in the 1800s and the Moggridge family lived at Molland in the 1700s. One wonders at the coincidence of that actually.

Welch at Rugeley, Staffordshire and Birmingham

Anne Welch married Henry Christopher Buller 23 Aug 1838 at Edgbaston, Warwickshire, UK with this being a first marriage for Anne and a second marriage for Henry Christopher Buller. Anne was only 18 years of age but claimed to be "full age" or 21 years of age. The witnesses for the marriage are unknown to me and do not appear to provide any further details on this family. I suspect that she eloped although the next time we see Anne she is on the census with her family and first child also Henry a 2 year old (1841) whilst Henry is in London running his butcher shop in the Covent Garden area. At some point Anne joins Henry in London (or perhaps she was just on holiday back to her parents in 1841) but the next four children are born in London and baptized at St Martin in the Field. We visited this church which overlooks Trafalgar Square and ate at their cafeteria in the crypt when we visited last October.

Anne was a twin and baptized 4 Jan 1820 at Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire. According to the census she was born at Lichfield, Staffordshire. Her parents were William Welch and Sarah Cheatle who were themselves married 24 Aug 1818 at Longdon by Lichfield also Staffordshire. Both William and Sarah signed the marriage registration and one of the witnesses was William Cheatle.

In the 1851 census of the Welch family at Birmingham  visiting them is Hannah Tomlinson who is soon to become the wife of one of Anne's brothers and by lucky coincidence is also a niece to William Welch. His sister Mary Welch married John Tomlinson 26 Jun 1814 at Rugeley, Staffordshire and both William and Hannah had listed Rugeley as their place of birth on this census. William on this census and on the 1841 census is listed as proprietor of Welch Eating House located on the corner of Lower Temple Street and King Street in Birmingham. His occupation is listed as Provision Dealer. The priest, on his daughter's marriage registration (and actually all of the children), has listed William Welch as a gentleman.

Locating William at Rugeley proved to be a fairly straightforward pursuit and he was the son of John Welch and Margaret Brockhouse and they were married 16 Feb 1783 at Rugeley. They had 11 children

Thomas baptized 3 Nov 1783 at Rugeley and married to Rebecca Reeves 8 Aug 1814 at Rugeley (and they had seven children - Mary b 1815, Elizabeth b 1816, John b 1819, Joseph b 1823, Thomas b 1826, Martha b 1833 and Samuel b 1838).

John baptized 3 Jul 1785 at Rugeley

Ann baptized 11 Nov 1787 at Rugeley and married to William Beardsmore 15 Sep 1812 at Rugeley (and they had 9 children - John b 1813, Ann b 1814, Esther b 1819, Louisa b 1821, Mary b 1822, Elizabeth b 1825, Samuel b 1826, Jane b 1829 and Thomas b 1832).

Sarah baptized 10 May 1789 at Rugeley and married to William Reeves 15 Oct 1812 at Rugeley (and they had five children - Susanna b 1813, Margaret b 1815, Samuel b 1817, Thomas b 1819 and William b 1821).

Mary baptized 25 Dec 1790 at Rugeley and married to John Tomlinson 26 Jun 1814 at Rugeley (and they had seven children - Mary b 1816, John b 1818, Elizabeth b 1820, Eliza b 1822, Ann b 1823, Lucy b 1825 and Hannah b 1830).

William baptized 11 Nov 1792 at Rugeley and married to Sarah Cheatle (as above) and they had six children  1. William baptized 5 Jan 1819 at Ashby de la Zouch and married to Elizabeth Brookes Wales Smith june quarter 1842 at Loughborough, Leicester (they had two children - Mary Ann Welch bc 1846 Birmingham who married Joseph William Hedge and John bc 1847 Birmingham). 2. Mary Welch baptized 7 Mar 1819 at Lichfield. 3. Anne (as above). 4. Sarah (twin to Anne and so baptized 1 Jan 1820 at Ashby de la Zouch) and she married Edwin Withers 5 Oct 1837 at Birmingham and they had 13 children (William Edward born dec quarter 1838 at Aston married to Anne Elizabeth Whitfield mar quarter 1867 at Aston and they had six children, Clara Harriet born mar quarter 1841 at Aston and married to John Shorten sep quarter 1865 at West Bromwich and they had one child, Amelia born jun quarter 1843 at Aston and married to Francis John Cresswell mar quarter 1868 at West Bromwich and they had five children, Samuel Francis born mar quarter 1845 at Birmingham and married to Elizabeth Jane Crane dec quarter 1884 at Birmingham and they had one child, Sarah Elizabeth born sep quarter 1846 at Birmingham and she married Alfred Cresswell march quarter 1868 at West Bromwich and they had five children, Fanny Louisa bc 1850, Augustus Henry b sep quarter 1851 at Aston, Caroline Rosina born mar quarter 1853 at Aston and she married Charles Seymour Davis dec quarter 1882 at West Bromwich and they had two children, Walter Herbert was born dec quarter 1854, Charles Ernest bc 1857 at Handsworth Staffordshire and married to Mary Rebecca Wootton sep quarter 1895 at West Bromwich, Emily Mary V was born june quarter 1859 at Handsworth, Alfred Weston Pitt was born sep quarter 1861 at Handsworth and Florence W bc 1864 at Handsworth). 5.John baptized 8 Aug 1824 at Lichfield. 6.Henry bc 1827 at Birmingham and married first to Hannah Tomlinson June quarter 1851 at King's Norton, Warwick and they had three children Charles bc 1853, Clara bc 1857 and Minnie bc 1859 all at Birmingham. Minnie married Walter James Haynes sep quarter 1884 at Birmingham and Anne Buller is found on the 1891 census with her niece and her family. Second marriage for Henry was to Mary Copeland Yates mar quarter 1863 at Aston and they had two children William bc 1864 and Albert C bc 1866 both at Birmingham. Third marriage for Henry was to Mary Newey march quarter 1870 at King's Norton and they had four children Frances E bc 1870, Sidney J bc 1872, Ernest E bc 1875 and Lilley bc 1880 all at Birmingham.

 Hannah baptized 6 Apr 1794 at Rugeley and married to John Wilks 26 Dec 1814 at Rugeley (they had one daughter).

Susanna baptized 8 Nov 1795 at Rugeley.

Frances baptized 2 Jul 1797 at Rugeley.

Henry baptized 5 May 1799 at Rugeley and married to Elizabeth Radford 19 Apr 1824 at Colton Staffordshire (they had three children - Henry baptized 5 Feb 1826 at Rugeley and married to Elizabeth and they had six children, Elizabeth baptized 22 Aug 1827 at Rugeley and married to John Stretton mar quarter 1848 at Rugeley and they had a number of children, and Anne baptized 20 Jun 1830 at Rugeley.

James baptized 12 Jul 1801 at Rugeley married Lucy and they had six children .

In general, as far as I could tell from the parish registers, all of the Welch entries after the mid 1700s at Rugeley belong to the descendants of John Welch and Margaret Brockhouse.

Reading the Rugeley parish registers at Salt Lake City it was quite straightforward to trace John Welch back to his parents Thomas and Mary Welch at his baptism 25 Apr 1756 at Rugeley and their marriage as there was only the one Welch family at Rugeley. Thomas Welch married Mary Linn by Banns 2 Sep 1745. Thomas himself was baptized 22 Apr 1711 at Rugeley the son of William and Sarah Welch. Thomas and Mary Welch had five children

Sarah baptized 28 Jun 1747 at Rugeley

Mary baptized 8 Apr 1753 at Rugeley

John (as above)

Ann baptized 26 Dec 1758 at Rugeley

Susannah baptized 3 May 1761 at Rugeley

Since they had four daughters John was the only Welch to baptize children in the next generation at Rugeley.

The marriage of William and Sarah Welch does not appear to be at Rugeley; William was buried there 20 Apr 1713.

A few Welch entries from the Parish Register up to 1718:

Service    Day-month    Year    Surname,forename    Information
Marriage    30 Dec    1675    Welch, Richard    Margery Litton
Baptism    22 Apr    1711    Thomas    S William & Sarah Welch
Baptism    24 Jan    1713    Welch, Winifred    D William & Sarah Welch, posthumous
Burial    26 Dec    1712    Welch, Mary    D William Welch
Burial    20 Apr    1713    Welch, William   
Baptism    10 Oct    1714    Welch, Anne    D Mr. Henry & Anne Welch
Marriage    4 Nov    1717    Welch, Edith    Thomas Harvey, banns
Baptism    16 Jan    1717    Welch, John    Bastard son of Sarah Welch

The Welch family is found there as noted in 1675 and again the entries after 1713 which appear to be a different family from the William and Sarah Welch grouping from 1711 to 1713.

I had expected to find a lot of Welch families on the IGI in the area but the only one I found was a William Welch baptized  21 Jul 1666 at Farewell Staffordshire and the son of John Welch and that was between 1650 and 1690 in Staffordshire. Expanding that to Warwick I found two more entries - one at Wormleighton in 1664  and one at Claverdon in 1680. Leicester had no baptismal entries. Shropshire had one in 1690 at Bishops Castle.

I transcribed the land tax assessments for Rugeley and did not find any indication of my Welch family in those entries in 1783 and 1813.

        Names of Proprietors            Names of Occupiers            Names of
Year    Number    Forename    Surname    Suffix    Forename    Surname    Suffix    Estates/houses
1813    1    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Trigs
1813    2    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Land
1813    3    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Woods
1813    4    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Sharps
1813    5    Lord    Anson        Lord    Curzon        P. Pennells
1813    6    Lord    Anson        Lord    Curzon        Palmers
1813    7    Lord    Anson        Lord    Curzon        William Pennells
1813    8    Lord    Anson        Lord    Curzon        Rileys
1813    9    Lord    Anson        Lord    Curzon        Bankes
1813    10    Mr.    Nixon        Lord    Curzon        Nixons
1813    11    Earl    Talbot        Lord    Curzon        William Pennells
1813    12    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Landers Land
1813    13    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Landers Land
1813    14    Lord    Curzon        Colonel    Madan        Turners Land
1813    15    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Barker        Forge
1813    16        School        Mr.    Barker        Land
1813    17    Mr.    Barker        Mr.    Barker        Acid Work
1813    18    Mr.    Barker        Mr.    Barker        Land
1813    19        School        Reverend Mr.    Clarke        House and environs
1813    20        School        Reverend Mr.    Clarke        Norths
1813    21        School        Reverend Mr.    Clarke        Wards
1813    22        School        Reverend Mr.    Clarke        Moor and Hodgley
1813    23        School        Reverend Mr.    Clarke        Palmers
1813    24        School        Reverend Mr.    Clarke        Woods
1813    25    Reverend Mr.    Inge        Reverend Mr.    Inge        Land
1813    26    Lord    Anson        Reverend Mr.    Inge        Church dale
1813    27    Lord    Anson        Reverend Mr.    Inge        Cowpasture
1813    28    Lord    Anson        Reverend Mr.    Inge        Front Leasow
1813    29    Mr.    Watson        Mr.    Watson        Home & Land
1813    30    Mr.    Armishaw        Mr.    Watson        Land
1813    31    Mr.    Pickering        Mr.    Watson        House and environs
1813    32    Mr.    Pickering        Mr.    Watson        Marshes
1813    33    Mr.    Pickering        Mr.    Watson        Norries
1813    34    Miss    Hopkins        William    Cheshire        House and environs
1813    35    Mr.    Hodson        William    Deakin        Houses
1813    36    Mrs.    Brittain        Mr.    Bullock        Shop and Yard
1813    37    Mrs.    Hitchock        Mrs.    Hitchcock        Land
1813    38    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Hitchcock        Wiltons
1813    39    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Hitchcock        Cow pasture
1813    40    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Hitchcock        Chantry croft
1813    41    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Cotton        Land and Garden
1813    42    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Hodson        Cappers
1813    43    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Hodson        Church field
1813    44    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Hodson        Upfield
1813    45    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Hodson        Harleys
1813    46    Mr.    Hodson        Mr.    Hodson        House
1813    47    Mr.    Bickley        Mr.    Bishop        House
1813    48    Samuel    Ruskton        Richard    Bramdrick        House
1813    49    Samuel    Ruskton        Andrew    Shawyer        House
1813    50    Lord    Anson        Benjamin    Sleigh        House and Land
1813    51    Lord    Anson        William    Woolley        House
1813    52    Lord    Anson        James    Richards        House
1813    53    Lord    Anson        James    Richards        Land
1813    54    James    Richards        James    Richards        Land
1813    55    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Wilson        House
1813    56    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bennet        House
1813    57    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bennet        Land
1813    58    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Ottey        House
1813    59    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Ottey        Land
1813    60    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Turner        House
1813    61    Lord    Anson        Miss    Barber        House and Land
1813    62    Lord    Anson        Thomas    Cheshire        Hempholme
1813    63    Earl    Uxbridge        Thomas    Cheshire        House and Land
1813    64    Miss    Barber        Thomas    Cheshire        Land
1813    65    Mr.    Godwin        Mrs.    Wyley        House
1813    66    Mr.    Walters        Mr.    Walters        House
1813    67        School        Joseph    Ward        House
1813    68    Mrs.    parkyns        Samuel    Rushton        House
1813    69    Mrs.    Parkyns        John    Howkins        House
1813    70    Lord    Anson        Thomas    Lenton        House
1813    71    Lord    Anson        Ann    Harriman        House
1813    72    Lord    Anson        Ann    Chinnock        House
1813    73    Lord    Anson        Thomas    Ray        House and Land
1813    74    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Wootton        House and Land
1813    75    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bickley        House and environs
1813    76    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bickley        Corn Mills
1813    77    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bickley        Land
1813    78    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bickley        Malt house
1813    79    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Bickley        Taylors Croft
1813    80        School        Mr.    Bickley        House
1813    81    Mr.    Bickley        Mr.    Bickley        Land
1813    82    Lord    Anson        Thomas    Higgit        House
1813    83    Lord    Anson        John    Hillige        House and Land
1813    84    Earl    Uxbridge        Mr.    Woolley        House
1813    85    Thomas    Capper        Samuel    Devol        Houses
1813    86    James    Richards        Joseph    Richards        House
1813    87    Mr.    Lakin        Moses    Lakin        House
1813    88        School        Mr.    Simpson        House
1813    89    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Birttain        Land
1813    90    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Brittain        Land
1813    91    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Armishaw        House
1813    92    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Armishaw        House
1813    93    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Masters        House and Land
1813    94    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Masters        Hays
1813    95    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Masters        Riddings
1813    96    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Masters        Bayenhill
1813    97    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Masters        Great Meadow
1813    98    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Masters        Land
1813    99    Lord    Anson        William    Lawley        House
1813    100    Lord    Anson        Richard    Johnson        House
1813    101    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Mursh        Mill Meadow
1813    102    Lord    Anson        Thomas    Capper        House
1813    103    Thomas    Capper        3    Houses        Halmans Lane
1813    104    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Godwin        Moor
1813    105    Mr.    Godwin        Mr.    Godwin        House
1813    106    Mr.    Godwin        Mr.    Godwin        Land
1813    107    Reverend Mr.    Brandley        Mr.    Dickenson        Great Tithe
1813    108    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Dickenson        Farm
1813    109    Mr.    Dickenson        Mr.    Dickenson        Landors Land
1813    110    Mr.    Parkes        Mrs.    Robinson        House
1813    111    Mr.    Parkes        Mr.    Salisbury        House and Land
1813    112    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Palmer        Bradley Moor
1813    113    Mr.    Banks        Mr.    Banks        Land
1813    114    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Banks        House and Land
1813    115    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Banks        Leas Land
1813    116    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Moxon        Land
1813    117    Mr.    Moxon        Mr.    Moxon        Land
1813    118        School        Samuel    Watson        House
1813    119    Mrs.    Parkyns        Capper and Momford        Houses
1813    120    Mr.    Ottey        H    Richardson        House
1813    121    Mr.    Ottey        Holt and  Myat        Houses
1813    122    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Averne        Land
1813    123    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Hawkins        Land
1813    124        School        Mr.    Hawkins        House
1813    125    Mr.    Nixon        Mr.    Nixon        Land
1813    126    Mr.    Scragg        Mrs.    Gilbert        House
1813    127    Samuel    Watson        Samuel    Webb        House
1813    128    Mr.    Thacker        Mrs.    Thacker        House
1813    129    Mrs.    Simpson        Mrs.    Simpson        House
1813    130    Mrs.    Simpson        George    Cheshire        House
1813    131    Mr.    Jones        Mrs.    Fletcher        House
1813    132    Mr.    Jones        William    Hawley        House
1813    133    Lord    Anson        Richard    Hill        House
1813    134    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Pennell        House and Land
1813    135    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Pennell        Wiltons
1813    136    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Pennell        Leas Land
1813    137    Earl    Talbot        Mr.    Stones        House and Land
1813    138    Earl    Talbot        Mr.    Stones        Land
1813    139    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Stones        Oxpasture
1813    140    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Fortescue        House and Land
1813    141    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Fortescue        Hodgley piece
1813    142    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Fortescue        Barlors Moor
1813    143    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Brassington        6 acres Broad Meadow
1813    144    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Twiner        House
1813    145    Lord    Anson        J    Stevenson        House
1813    146    Lord    Anson        J    Stevenson        Land
1813    147    George    Hunt        George    Hunt        Houses
1813    148    Mr.    Powers        Mr.    Powers        Houses
1813    149    Colwich    poor        Mr.    Foster        Land
1813    150    Mr.    Smith        Mr.    Smith        Barn and Croft
1813    151    Mr.    Smith        Mr.    Smith        Land
1813    152    Mrs.    Blood        Mrs.    Blood        House and Land
1813    153    Mr.    Hickin        Mr.    Hickin        Land
1813    154    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Hickin        Land
1813    155    Earl    Talbot        Mrs.    Seale        House and Land
1813    156    Earl    Uxbridge        S.    Harriman        House
1813    157    Earl    Uxbridge        John    Myat        House
1813    158    Earl    Uxbridge        William    Bennison        House
1813    159    Miss    Birch        Miss    Birch        House and Land
1813    160    Miss    Birch        Miss    Bir        Dawcome
1813    161    Earl    Talbot        Earl    Talbot        House and Land
1813    162    Earl    Talbot        Earl    Talbot        Land Above Coppice
1813    163    Earl    Talbot        Earl    Talbot        Land below Coppice
1813    164    Earl    Talbot        Mr.    Farmers        House and Land
1813    165    Earl    Talbot        Mr.    Ward        House
1813    166    Earl    Talbot        Benjamin    Lead        Land
1813    167    Earl    Talbot        Mr.    Birch        Land
1813    168    Earl    Talbot        John    Salt        Land
1813    169    Earl    Talbot        Thomas    Rowley        Land
1813    170    Earl    Talbot        Mr.    Glover        Cloddy Croft
1813    171    Earl    Talbot        John    Clarke        House
1813    172    Mr.    Ottey        Benjamin    Lead        House
1813    173    Mr.    Ottey        Mr.    Ottey        House
1813    174        School        Mr.    Ottey        House
1813    175    Mr.    Birch        Mr.    Birch     Sen    Leasors
1813    176    Mr.    Birch        Mr.    Birch     Sen    House and Garden
1813    177    Mr.    Birch        Mr.    Birch     Sen    Godwins
1813    178    Mr.    Birch        Mr.    Birch     Sen    Holts
1813    179    Mr.    Timmis        Mr.    Timmis        House
1813    180    Earl    Talbot        John    Jones        Land
1813    181    Earl    Talbot        John    Cox        Meadow
1813    182    Reverend Mr.    Clarke        Late C    Hays        Land
1813    183    Earl    Uxbridge        Earl    Uxbridge        Land and Colliery
1813    184    Earl    Uxbridge        Earl    Uxbridge        Cottages
1813    185    Earl    Uxbridge        Earl    Uxbridge        Harways
1813    186    Earl    Uxbridge        Earl    Uxbridge        Smiths
1813    187    Earl    Uxbridge        Earl    Uxbridge        Late Arblasters
1813    188    Earl    Uxbridge        Earl    Uxbridge        John Brown
1813    189    Earl    Uxbridge        Joseph    Smith        House and Land
1813    190    Earl    Uxbridge        Hamilton    Bradbury        House and Land
1813    191    Earl    Uxbridge        Mark    Richards        House and Land
1813    192    Earl    Uxbridge        Joseph    Moor        House and Land
1813    193    Earl    Uxbridge        John    Monk        House and Land
1813    194    Earl    Uxbridge        Richard    Arblaster        House and Land
1813    195    Earl    Uxbridge        Richard    Benton        House and Land
1813    196    Earl    Uxbridge        Thomas    Carr        House and Land
1813    197    Earl    Uxbridge        James    Craddock        House and Land
1813    198    Earl    Uxbridge        Mr.    Benton        House and Land
1813    199    Earl    Uxbridge            Roebotham        House and; Land
1813    200    Earl    Uxbridge        Thomas    Crutchley        House and Land
1813    201    Earl    Uxbridge        John    Jones        House and Land
1813    202    Earl    Uxbridge        Richard    Whitaker        House and Land
1813    203    Earl    Uxbridge        Thomas    Lycett        House and Land
1813    204    Earl    Uxbridge        George    Benton        House and Land
1813    205    Earl    Uxbridge        Richard    Walker        House and Land
1813    206    Earl    Uxbridge        John    Rushton        House and Land
1813    207    Earl    Uxbridge        Harold    Godwin        House and Land
1813    208    Earl    Uxbridge        John    Hulse        House and Land
1813    209    Earl    Uxbridge        Thomas    Hill        House and Land
1813    210    Earl    Uxbridge        Ann    Tooth        House and Land
1813    211    Mr.    Vickers        Mrs.    Vickers        House and Land
1813    212    Lord    Anson        Mrs.    Vickers        Land
1813    213    Lord    Anson            Gardems        Land
1813    214    Mr.    Barker        Mr.    Barker        Roleing Mill
1813    215    Mr.    Barker        C    James        Land
1813    216    Senior William    Wolsley        Mrs.    Allcock        Land
1813    217    Senior William    Wolsley        Mrs.    Allcock        Millers
1813    218    Mr.    Fernihough        Mr.    Fernihough        Land
1813    219    Mr.    Bullock        Mr.    Bullock        Land
1813    220        School        Mr.    Bullock        Land
1813    221    George    Phillips        George    Phillips        land
1813    222    Mr.    Palmer        Mr.    Palmer        Land
1813    223    Mr.    Brandrick        Mr.    Brandrick        Land
1813    224    John    Waddams        John    Waddams        Land
1813    225    Mr.    Hatfield        Mr.    Hatfield        Houses
1813    226    Mr    Landon        Mr.    Landon        Land
1813    227        School        Mr.    Sharrod        Land
1813    228    Lord    Anson        William    Wood        House and Land
1813    229        School            Hillige        Land
1813    230        School        John    Lander        Land
1813    231        School        Robert    Lead        Land
1813    232        School        Mr.    Bishop        Land
1813    233    Lord    Anson        Mr.    Foster        Land
1813    234    Mr.    Birch        Mr.    Hammond        Land
1813    235    Mr.    Collet        Mr.    Collet        Land
1813    236    Stephen    Townsend        Stephen    Townsend        Land
1813    237    Thomas    Rowley        Thomas    Rowley        Land
1813    238    Alexander    Wood        Alexander    Wood        House
1813    239    John    Sturtin        John    Sturtin        House
1813    240    Miss    Ottey        William    Barker        Land
1813    241    Mr.    Turner        John    Pool        House
1813    242    Thomas    Cross        Thomas    Cross        House
1813    243    Brereton    Colliery        Brereton    Colliery        Land
1813    244    Richard    Bradbury        Richard    Bradbury        House
1813    245        School        Robert    Wilcock        House
1813    246    Mrs.    Littlewood        Mrs.    Littlewood        House
1813    247    Proprietors of     Canal        Proprietors of     Canal        Warf Buildings
1813    248    Miss    Glover and Co        Miss     Glover and Co        Foundry Buildings
1813    249    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        House, Garden and environs
1813    250    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Tomkinsons
1813    251    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Falkners
1813    252    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Brund Hill
1813    253    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Harveys
1813    254    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Ansons
1813    255    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Leas
1813    256    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Hines
1813    257    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Stable croft
1813    258    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Ashley
1813    259    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Coxes
1813    260    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Mr. Sneyds
1813    261    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Bullocks Moor
1813    262    Lord    Curzon        Lord    Curzon        Red Brook and Westons
1813    263    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        House and Land
1813    264    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Land
1813    265    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Olditon
1813    266    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Lowes
1813    267    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Heaths
1813    268    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Ashleys
1813    269    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Smiths
1813    270    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Birds
1813    271    Mr.    Hitchcock        Mr.    Hitchcock        Floyers
1813    272    Mr.    Cotton        Mrs.    Cotton        Bickleys
1813    273    Mr.    Cotton        Mrs.    Cotton        House and environs
1813    274    Mr.    Palmer        Hawkins & Pool            Houses
1813    275    Junior    Clubb        William    Rowley        Houses
1813    276    Senior William    Clubb        William    Wootton        Houses
1813    277    Thomas    Brown        William    Rogers        House
1813    278    Mrs.    Brown        Mr.    Chullenor        House
1813    279    Mr.    Dawes        Mr.    Dawes        House
1813    280    Mrs.    Barber        Mrs.    Barber        House
1813    281    Mrs.    Barber        Mrs.    Barber        House
1813    282    Reverend Mr.    Inge        Reverend Mr.    Inge        House and Glebe Land
1813    283    Hannah    Parker        Hannah    Parker        House
1813    284    John    Holt        J    Pinson        House
1813    285    Mr.    Seale        William    Mayham        House
1813    286    Mr.    Jackson        Mr.    Kitterige        House
1813    287    Mr.    Jackson        Mr.    Kitterige        Chanty croft
1813    288    Mr.    Jackson        Mr.    Kitterige        Inclose
1813    289    Mr.    Jackson        Mr.    Kitterige        Land
1813    290    Mr.    Jackson        Mr.    Kitterige        Smiths
1813    291    Mr.    Jackson        Mr.    Kitterige        Thomas Hatfield
1813    292    Mrs.    Phillips        Mrs.    Phillips        House
1813    293    Mrs.    Phillips        Miss     Masters        House
1813    294    Mrs.    Phillips        Thomas    Hill        House and Land
1813    295    Mrs.    Phillips        John    Pennell        House
1813    296    Mr.    Brittain        Mr.    Brittain        House and Land
1813    297    Mr.    Brittain        John    Higgit        Houses
1813    298    Mr.    Lea        Mr.    Masters        Moors
1813    299    Mr.    Lea        Mr.    Banks        Moors
1813    300    Mr.    Lea        William    Brooks        House and Land
1813    301    Mrs.    Emery        John    Palmer        House and Land
1813    302    Mr.    Nixon        Mr.    Nixon        House and Land
1813    303    Mr.    Nixon        Mr.    Nixon        Brogans Lake
1813    304    Mrs.    Allcock        Mr.    Waddams        House
1813    305    Mr.    Hawkins        Mr.    Hawkins        House
1813    306    Mr.    Powell        Mr.    Powell        House
1813    307    William    Smytheman        Christopher    Tunstall        House
1813    308    Mrs.    Lakin        Mrs.    Lakin        House
1813    309    Mr.    Moxon        Mr.    Moxon        House
1813    310    Mr.    Moxon        Mr.    Boebotham        House
1813    311    Mr.    Hill        Mr.    Hill        House
1813    312    General    Avarne        General    Avarne        House
1813    313    General    Avarne        General    Avarne        Hell and Ashley
1813    314    General    Avarne        Mr.    Wood        House and Land
1813    315    General    Avarne        Mr.    Wood        Brindleys
1813    316    General    Avarne        Mr.    Pegg        House
1813    317    John    Tooth        William    Smytheman        House
1813    318    William    Holt        Samuel    Nixon        House
1813    319    Edward    Wollason        Edward    Wollason        House
1813    320    Mrs.    Sharp        Mrs.    Sharp        House
1813    321    Thomas    cox        Thomas    Cox        House
1813    322    Mr.    Ottey        John    Cordwell        House
1813    323    Mr.    Ottey        Mrs.    Moor        House
1813    324    James    Holt        James    Holt        House
1813    325    James    Holt            Nixons        House
1813    326    James    Holt            Hills        House
1813    327    James    Holt            Watsons        House
1813    328    Mr.    Pennell        Mr.    Pennell        Rileys Land
1813    329    Mr.    Penne..        Mr.    Hammond        House and Land
1813    330    G    Stevenson        G    Stevenson        House
1813    331    G    Stevenson        G    Stevenson        Tophams
1813    332    Mr.    Sanders        John    Cox        Land
1813    333    Mr.    Smith        Mr.    Ohey        House and Land
1813    334    Mrs.    Benton        William    Gee        House and Land
1813    335    Mr.    Riley        Mr.    Riley        Cresswells Land
1813    336    Mr.    Riley        Mr.    Riley        Astburys
1813    337    Mr.    Riley        Mr.    Riley        Leacrofts
1813    338    Mr.    Riley        Mr.    Riley        Malthouse
1813    339    Mr.    Riley        Mr.    Riley        Barlors Moor
1813    340    Mr.    Lightwoods        Mr.    Dawson        Meadow
1813    341    Mr.    Lightwoods        Mr.    Dawson        Brindleys
1813    342    Mr.    Lightwoods        Mr.    Dawson        Pollards
1813    343    Mr.    Lightwoods        Mr.    Dawson        Robinsons
1813    344    John    Wood        William    Wood        House

There are a few interesting entries that I will mention later for other families.

To continue with the Welch family, I probably need a bit of serendipity and perhaps that will be forthcoming my next research day on the Welch family.