Protestation Returns - 1641-42
Sidderfin Thomas gent Carhampton 1.
Sidderfin Robert Luxborough 2.
Sidderfin Thomas Luxborough 3.
Siderfin William overseer Luxborough 4.
Sidderfin Robert Minehead 5.
Sidderfin John Selworthy 6.
Surname Forename Suffix s d Parish
Syderfyn Thos gent 5 6 Carhampton 7.
Syderfyn Thomas 11 Cutcombe 8.
Syderfin Cristian 6 8 Luxborow Everard 9.
Syderfin William 4 8 Luxborow Everard 10.
Syderfyn Thomas 4 6 Minehead 11.
Syderfyn Robert rater 4 7 Minehead 12.
Syderfyn Robert sen 4 Timberscombe 13.
Syderfyn Robert jun 3 Timberscombe 14.
Syderfyn Wm rater 8 1 Treborough Browne 15.
Syderfyn Robert 13 6 Wotton Courtney 16.
Robert and Elizabeth Siderfin baptize a daughter Elizabeth in 1657 at Timberscombe. In 1731 Joan Siderfin daughter of Robert and Joan is baptized. No baptism for Robert Siderfin at Timberscombe. There doesn't appear to be a continuous family line at Timberscombe although Robert Senior and Robert Junior are both found at Timberscombe on the 1641-42 Subsidy.
Historical Perspective: John Siderfin died before 1551 leaving a son William because of the Chancery Proceedings of Siderfin v Foster (see Sanders Book). By 1553, a writ dated 14 May 7 Edward VI (1553) was executed requesting the presence of William and Christian (his wife) Siderfin at Westminster. William left a will dated 20 Aug 1568 and proved at Taunton 15 May 1572 in which he names his son Robert and daughter Jone (married to William Westerne). Robert was born before 1568. The daughter Jone doesn't marry William Westerne until 13 Feb 1602. They have a son Robert mentioned in the will of Jone's brother Robert in 1628. With these thoughts in mind one is left to wonder if Jone was still a young child when William wrote his will. By the time Robert's will is written in 1627 it is 59 years since Robert was mentioned in his father's will. He too could have been still a young child.
Transcription of the will of Robert Siderfin (Probated 31 January 1628)
In the name of God Amen The
nineteenth daie of August in the yeare of our Lord God one thousand sixt hundred
twentie and seaven I Robert Siderfin of the parish of Luxborowe within the
dioces of Bath and Wells being somewhat sicke in body but of perfect minde
and memory praise bee to allmightie god therefore. I doe make this my last will and
testament in manner and forme following. First I bequeath my soule to allmightie
god and my body to bee buried in the Chauncell of Luxborowe Item I give to the Cathedrall
church of Wells vijd. Item I give to Robert Siderfin the sonne of William Siderfin and
to Robert Westeron the sonne of William Westeron and to Robert Siderfin the sonne of
Robert Siderfine of Mynehead to any of them one heafer yeardling Item I give to all the
rest of my sonne and daughters children to every of them five Ewe sheepe apiece Item I give to
the poore of Cutcombe 6s and to the poore of Luxborowe 6s. Item I give to William
Siderfin my sonne my best meane and ploughstuffe for eight ____ to bee deliv[ere]d him after the decease
of Christian my wife and the cubbard in the hall and table board in the farme to bee delivered as abovesaid
Item I give unto Marie Siderfin my daughter unmarried two hundred pounds. Item I give and
bequeath unto Thomas Siderfin my sonne and Mary Siderfin my Daughter all that tearme of
yeares and estate which I have in a tenement called South Wheddon lying within the parish of
Cutcombe Item I give unto the said Thomas Siderfin and Marie Siderfin my seale for yeares
for to Keepe one hundred sheepe upon Brundon and my whole interest and estate therein as
alsoe I give unto the said Thomas Siderfin and Mary Siderfin my lease for tearme of yeares
which I have in Seaven acres of wood lying within the parish of Luxborrowe be my part of Priory
Wood and all such trees as are by the same lease granted mee with forsaid premises are lying
within the Countie of Somerset Item I give unto every of my Godchildren twelve pence apiece
And fourtie pounds of my said daughter Marys portion or also my daughter Janes portion
which is yet unpaid in a great parte is to bee paid by my sonne William unto one of them
which he upon good consideration hath undertaken to paie Item I give unto Elner Westeron and
Johanne Doutch three pounds apiece to bee paid within two years after my decease the residue
Of my goods not given nor disposed I give and bequeath unto Christian my wife and Thomas
Siderfin my sonne whom I make my sole Execators of this my last will In witness whereof
I have hereunto sett my hand Robert Siderfin Witnessed here unto The marke of
Christopher Webber The marke of Robert Coyp The marke of John Burges
We know the date of the marriages of William and Robert Siderfin (sons mentioned in the will) - William married Christian Webber 5 Feb 1610 at Loughborough and Robert married Ursula Webber 23 July 1612. These two were probably born after 1568 since they are not mentioned in the will. In the will he does mention that his son and grandson Robert Siderfin (12.) are living at Minehead. The baptism of the grandson at Minehead was in the register 27 May 1616. We can now start to put the members of family into a date perspective. Since this is my likely line I can now see from John Siderfin (died by 1631) who was the furtherest back family patriarch with wife Christian to his two children William (already mentioned and married to Wilmot Foster (this holds up through the legal wrangling mentioned above)) and Christian who married George Escott 14 Jun 1542. This needs to be followed up a there is an Escott will later that passes land to my side of the Siderfin family plus there is an Escott marriage. I need to find any Escott children and trace them down. Following through William and Wilmot's children who are Robert and Jone. Robert married Christian
Robert Siderfin (12) (son of Robert and Christian) and his son Robert are clearly identified as being at Minehead. This is my likely ancestor. The will identifies the other two children of Robert Siderfin at Minehead as Wilmot and John. In 1647 none of them appear to be married although their baptisms are in 1614, 1616 and 1619. John receives a very small bequest but he is the younger son. Robert senior and junior at Timberscombe (13., 14.) would also appear to be this family as there aren't any other Robert father and son combination in 1641-42. Robert the father of Robert senior has died by 1628. The question though is the John (6.) at Selworthy on the Protestation Returns the youngest son of Robert senior (12.). James Hooper Sanders indicated he was on his chart. We do know that the Robert at Selworthy (baptized 23 Aug 1658) is the son of the widow Thomazine and that his son Augustine is her grandson from the will of Thomazine (not yet seen by me).
We need more information on John (baptized at Minehead) and John listed at Selworthy on the Protestation Returns. He does not pay subsidy in 1641-42 but he would only be 22 years old. That is the link for which we need to provide more proof.
Thomazine Siderfin (mother Robert and grandmother of Augustine) is buried at Wootton Courtney (11 Aug 1709). This brings me back to the Subsidy Chart and Robert Siderfin (16.) at Wootton Courtney in 1641-42 on the Tax Subsidy and he must be the Robert Siderfin (2.) at Luxborough on the Protestation Returns. The query that constantly arises is whom did Thomazine Siderfin marry? Since she is buried at Wootton Courtney, her son Robert is buried at Wootton Courtney, her son Augustine is buried at Wootton Courtney, his son Robert is buried at Selworthy but several of Robert's children are baptized at Wootton Courtney (including my 3x great grandmother) and the others at Selworthy. I think my next step is buying the will of Thomazine Siderfin once I find it!
Wills that I have abstracts of:
Lived at Luxborough, Somerset
Will dated 20 Aug 1568
Probate 16 May 1572
Christian, burial in Chancel
All bequeathed to Wilmot, his wife
Witnessed by Mr. Alexander Sydenham
Lived at Luxborough, Somerset
Will dated 28 Nov 1644
Probate 4 July 1648
Daughter Mary Gyldes (lives at Dunster, widow)
Son William Siderfin
Son Thomas Siderfin
Son Robert Siderfin
Daughter Wilmot Siderfin
Sons of Thomas Siderfin (her son) Thomas and Philip
the elder of Luxborough, Somerset
Will dated 6 Nov 1675 (no probate)
To the poor 10 pounds
His wife is Johan
Son Robert Siderfin
Son Thomas Siderfin (50 pounds) and all his law books
All children to receive one peece of Barbary gould
Johan his wife executrix
Middle Temple, London
Will dated 17 Mar 1678
Will proved 15 June 1681 (by Ann Siderfin, widow)
Brother Robert Siderfin and wife Ann to receive his messuages of Crodon, Manors of Exton and South Quarme (in Exton), lands in Carhampton, Somerset, and in Lambeth
100 pounds a year to his wife
50 pounds per year to Anne his daughter
Survivor of wife and brother to receive lands in Somerset
Katherine Sidderfin alias Graves
Croydon, Carhampton, Somerset
Died at Exeter
Husband Robert Sidderfin
Administration granted 23 Nov 1686 to husband
Administration to his widow Mary 4 Nov 1687
Daughter Christian (wife of John Worth)
Will dated 19 Nov 1689
Will proved 10 Oct 1693
Grandchildren: Susanna Worth, Christian Worth, Mary Worth and Sarah Worth
Daughter Christian Worth
Will dated 22 Mar 1687
Will proved 5 Mar 1706
Buried at Lambeth near husband and mother
Aunt Gee's sons Orlando and Joe Gee
Cousin Gilbert East
Will dated 9 Mar 1716
Will proved 17 Dec 1723
Niece Rachael Clothier
Wife Mary to be Executrix
King's Masters Extraordinary in the Court of Chancery
Will dated 8 Jan 1688
Will proved 4 Apr 1689
Wife Elizabeth Blackford
Daughter Sidwell Blackford
Sister Mary Coffin
Sister Christian Blackford
Cousin John Quirck
Cousin Robert Siderfin
Son in law Edward Dyke
Daughter Elizabeth Dyke
Periton, Minehead, Somerset
Will dated 3 Mar 1728
Will proved 29 April 1730
Son in law Walter Siderfin
Grandson Thomas Quirke
Daughter Mary Question
Daughter Alice Siderfin
Son John Quirke
Son James Quirke
Son Robert Quirke
Son Thomas Quirke
19 July 1731
Will proved 9 July 1731
Uncle Mr. Robert Siderfin (Executor)
Son of kinsman Mr. Walter Siderfin, is Robert Siderfin, gives his estate in Old Cleeve
With all these mentions of the Siderfin family in wills and abstracts I have not yet seen the will of Thomasine Siderfin (mother of Robert and grandmother of Augustine), widow. She was buried 11 Aug 1709 at Wootton Courtney.