We arrived home this afternoon - London to Ottawa was an amazing trip. I drove from London to Kitchener and then my husband from Kitchener to Cobourg (through Toronto) and back to me again from Cobourg to Belleville (although I said I could do to Kingston!). Then my husband home to Ottawa. We made really good time - leaving London at 8:30 a.m. and arriving here at 4:00 p.m. We had several stops to eat and before we left London we visited the graves of my maternal grandparents, then my paternal grandparents and parents and also my great aunt and two great uncles (one of my great uncles was also my maternal grandfather's first cousin). Genealogy can be really fun.
I picked up my new glasses and they will take getting used to. My old lenses were badly scratched so have decided to try anti scratch Crisal lenses. We will see how they do. My lenses seldom change although the last couple of pair of glasses I did not feel that the one eye was strong enough. The new optician has gone back to the earlier prescription and I will need to get used to that but I wonder if it will solve my headache problem from eye strain. We will see.
Filled up the refrigerator with food as it was quite quite empty since we were away for a bit and that is our last trip for quite a while.
Monday, November 30, 2009
Milwaukee to Ottawa
We traveled yesterday from Milwaukee Wisconsin to London Ontario. Going through Chicago this time was easier as we decided to take I94 to I294 and then back to I94. Last time we took the GPS selected route which took us right through downtown Chicago and we sat in the shadow of the Sears Tower for about 20 minutes in traffic. This trip was much quicker and we managed to get to Chicago before the traffic started. This was the end of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States and we expected the roads to be very busy. They were in particular the I94 as we headed east towards Detroit. When we turned onto I69 though a lot of the traffic left us (I drove this portion) and it was quiet all the way to Lansing. The trip from Lansing to Port Huron was busy at the beginning but had thinned out quite a bit as we approached the border. However, the lines at the border returning to Canada were quite lengthy and we spent nearly an hour waiting to cross. Our wait was only about five minutes when we had crossed over to the United States two weeks earlier.
Milwaukee is a very interesting city and we explored the area around Milwaukee as well. Driving there is like driving in southwestern Ontario - the same rolling hills and similar trees. I did not see a yellow headed blackbird yet.
No genealogy done at all but we do not expect to find any of Ed's families there necessarily although they could be. My grandmother's sister and her husband lived in Chicago in the 1920s so I may investigate them somewhat when we are next in the area. My mother went to Chicago as a child with her mother. But her father was so lonely that they never went again while he was living.
We head on to Ottawa today as we are still in London. Lots of work to accomplish in the next few weeks and then back to genealogy after Christmas.
Milwaukee is a very interesting city and we explored the area around Milwaukee as well. Driving there is like driving in southwestern Ontario - the same rolling hills and similar trees. I did not see a yellow headed blackbird yet.
No genealogy done at all but we do not expect to find any of Ed's families there necessarily although they could be. My grandmother's sister and her husband lived in Chicago in the 1920s so I may investigate them somewhat when we are next in the area. My mother went to Chicago as a child with her mother. But her father was so lonely that they never went again while he was living.
We head on to Ottawa today as we are still in London. Lots of work to accomplish in the next few weeks and then back to genealogy after Christmas.
Thursday, November 26, 2009
Milwaukee
We have been in Milwaukee for over a week now and returning home. It is a very interesting city and of course our eldest lives here which makes it even more interesting. One of our days we drove to Sheybogan just to get a feel of the surrounding area and it was an interesting drive along Lake Michigan heading north. One time we will try the northern route into Wisconsin coming down through Sault Ste Marie and into Northern Michigan and then cross into Wisconsin and come down to Milwaukee by that route. Probably in the warmer weather we will come that way after the snows of spring are gone.
We drove all the way to Lansing on our first day and that was about an 11 hour drive including breaks for walks and meals. Except that it rained the last two hours it was a very straightforward trip. Crossing at Sarnia/Port Huron was much easier this time than last summer. Our line last summer was about 45 minutes long (we always manage to choose the longest one as some moved quicker!) and this time only about ten minutes.
Our second full day in Milwaukee we went shopping looking for a suit for our daughter to wear at her sister`s wedding and just a nice new good suit. We went to a number of stores but found the Boston Store that we had never shopped at before. They had a good range of suits and we found one that she really liked which was great. That being accomplished we had planned to spend the rest of the time sight seeing. The Museum is quite excellent and we could have spent hours more there. We saw the IMax production of Ice Worlds which was really very good. It is the first time that I have ever seen the projected look of Antarctica without snow that I can recall. It is a very large continent and one wonders if we will see it with permanent inhabitants in our life time. I am less frightened by the Greenhouse effect than «I perhaps should be. I would very much like to see our air cleaned up but a lot of the greenhouse effect is caused by our enormous dependence on cattle - beef, pork, mutton etc. That isn`t likely to change in our lifetimes so the greenhouse effect is likely here to stay and we will simply have to learn to live with it.
As for family research I haven`t touched a thing in over two weeks now. I will not be doing anything likely until after the new year as we just have too much on the go for the moment. I want to now draw up a plan for looking at all of the information that I brought back from Salt Lake City in 2008 so that I have transcribed all of it by the end of the winter that I plan to transcribe. I am probably through 50% of it now and there is one large chunk that will wait a while longer. It is the manor papers for Upper Clatford (about 100 images) that needs to wait for my Latin studies to approach my being able to understand what is written in the papers as they are entirely in Latin. I am not sure if they will actually answer any queries of mine at the moment anyway.
My hypothesis is that the manor holdings of the Blake family at Upper Clatford in the 1500s continued through to the 1800s although considerably reduced. I believe they held land on which the Terrace homes were built (Foundry Road (near Bury Hill)) and where my Grandfather Blake was born (and all of his siblings) between 1872 and 1894). I think it was sold and a cottage (Yew Cottage) at Goodworth Clatford then purchased where Edward Blake died and his widow and a widowed daughter with her son lived into the 1900s until Annie married once again and moved back to Upper Clatford. Likely the Cottage was sold as I do not appear to have any relatives living there in Goodworth Clatford.
There was an absence of years when Blake members did not live at Upper Clatford (late 1600s to mid 1700s. The Manor Papers may assist me in this time period to understand what happened to their freehold from the late 1600s to the mid 1700s when again I think that Joseph Blake was living there with Joanna King Blake (daughter of Thomas King who was a freehold farmer at Upper Clatford I think). Joseph died about four years after Thomas and his widow remarried 14 years later to Thomas Collins (a freehold farmer at Upper Clatford).
My reason for such an hypothesis is my father saying that his Grandparents lived in a house that had been in the family for 300 years. This would fit in with the above details. Looking at the house I am not sure it would be now 400 years old though but perhaps there was a smaller house there and it formed the base for the terrace homes now located there. Certainly the house that they lived in at the end of the 1800s was a terrace home (I have a picture of them beside the house in 1898). I have a letter that established this same house was there in 1939 with a front porch added to it. It would be interesting to learn more about this house and I may investigate having a house history once I ascertain that the one I have a picture of is the house that they lived in.
A few queries on Bishops Nympton I have answered in the past couple of weeks and a few contacts on Genes Reunited which have been about other families to which I have replied.
We drove all the way to Lansing on our first day and that was about an 11 hour drive including breaks for walks and meals. Except that it rained the last two hours it was a very straightforward trip. Crossing at Sarnia/Port Huron was much easier this time than last summer. Our line last summer was about 45 minutes long (we always manage to choose the longest one as some moved quicker!) and this time only about ten minutes.
Our second full day in Milwaukee we went shopping looking for a suit for our daughter to wear at her sister`s wedding and just a nice new good suit. We went to a number of stores but found the Boston Store that we had never shopped at before. They had a good range of suits and we found one that she really liked which was great. That being accomplished we had planned to spend the rest of the time sight seeing. The Museum is quite excellent and we could have spent hours more there. We saw the IMax production of Ice Worlds which was really very good. It is the first time that I have ever seen the projected look of Antarctica without snow that I can recall. It is a very large continent and one wonders if we will see it with permanent inhabitants in our life time. I am less frightened by the Greenhouse effect than «I perhaps should be. I would very much like to see our air cleaned up but a lot of the greenhouse effect is caused by our enormous dependence on cattle - beef, pork, mutton etc. That isn`t likely to change in our lifetimes so the greenhouse effect is likely here to stay and we will simply have to learn to live with it.
As for family research I haven`t touched a thing in over two weeks now. I will not be doing anything likely until after the new year as we just have too much on the go for the moment. I want to now draw up a plan for looking at all of the information that I brought back from Salt Lake City in 2008 so that I have transcribed all of it by the end of the winter that I plan to transcribe. I am probably through 50% of it now and there is one large chunk that will wait a while longer. It is the manor papers for Upper Clatford (about 100 images) that needs to wait for my Latin studies to approach my being able to understand what is written in the papers as they are entirely in Latin. I am not sure if they will actually answer any queries of mine at the moment anyway.
My hypothesis is that the manor holdings of the Blake family at Upper Clatford in the 1500s continued through to the 1800s although considerably reduced. I believe they held land on which the Terrace homes were built (Foundry Road (near Bury Hill)) and where my Grandfather Blake was born (and all of his siblings) between 1872 and 1894). I think it was sold and a cottage (Yew Cottage) at Goodworth Clatford then purchased where Edward Blake died and his widow and a widowed daughter with her son lived into the 1900s until Annie married once again and moved back to Upper Clatford. Likely the Cottage was sold as I do not appear to have any relatives living there in Goodworth Clatford.
There was an absence of years when Blake members did not live at Upper Clatford (late 1600s to mid 1700s. The Manor Papers may assist me in this time period to understand what happened to their freehold from the late 1600s to the mid 1700s when again I think that Joseph Blake was living there with Joanna King Blake (daughter of Thomas King who was a freehold farmer at Upper Clatford I think). Joseph died about four years after Thomas and his widow remarried 14 years later to Thomas Collins (a freehold farmer at Upper Clatford).
My reason for such an hypothesis is my father saying that his Grandparents lived in a house that had been in the family for 300 years. This would fit in with the above details. Looking at the house I am not sure it would be now 400 years old though but perhaps there was a smaller house there and it formed the base for the terrace homes now located there. Certainly the house that they lived in at the end of the 1800s was a terrace home (I have a picture of them beside the house in 1898). I have a letter that established this same house was there in 1939 with a front porch added to it. It would be interesting to learn more about this house and I may investigate having a house history once I ascertain that the one I have a picture of is the house that they lived in.
A few queries on Bishops Nympton I have answered in the past couple of weeks and a few contacts on Genes Reunited which have been about other families to which I have replied.
Thursday, November 19, 2009
Medicine
I was noticing that the cost of medicine in Canada is 108 billion dollars. An absolutely enormous sum and one wonders what we used to spend all of our money on now before the Canada Health Act. I think it is money well spent but the costs of medicine are enormous - enormous to my daughter who is slowly sinking into debt with her medical training. Once she finishes medical school she will at least earn some money as a resident but still another 1.5 years for that.
I am proud of her to take on medicine. I walked away from all of that over 40 years ago. I just couldn't see myself taking care of people day in and day out - I wanted a more adventuresome medicine in far off Africa. The need for physicians though is here in Canada now where still 1/10th of all Canadians do not have a family doctor. Ours will soon retire I expect and we will have to start looking once again but we are fortunate in not using the system very often. Neither of us is on drugs at all and we are careful with our eating habits and life style. We walk a lot, bike a lot and lots of other exercise to keep fit. Will that keep us out of doctor's offices? Time will tell on that.
I am sorry that I had to leave work though because of my injured shoulder as I would have liked to have paid her tuition so that she wouldn't have had that debt on her shoulders. But she is young and one of these days she will be earning money as a physician which will help to pay those enormous debts that they all acquire by the end of their training. Then they work such a short time comparatively and a very busy time since they have to turn around and train the next generation of doctors.
I am proud of her to take on medicine. I walked away from all of that over 40 years ago. I just couldn't see myself taking care of people day in and day out - I wanted a more adventuresome medicine in far off Africa. The need for physicians though is here in Canada now where still 1/10th of all Canadians do not have a family doctor. Ours will soon retire I expect and we will have to start looking once again but we are fortunate in not using the system very often. Neither of us is on drugs at all and we are careful with our eating habits and life style. We walk a lot, bike a lot and lots of other exercise to keep fit. Will that keep us out of doctor's offices? Time will tell on that.
I am sorry that I had to leave work though because of my injured shoulder as I would have liked to have paid her tuition so that she wouldn't have had that debt on her shoulders. But she is young and one of these days she will be earning money as a physician which will help to pay those enormous debts that they all acquire by the end of their training. Then they work such a short time comparatively and a very busy time since they have to turn around and train the next generation of doctors.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Pearce Family - 2
I completed my proof of Martha Pearce including naming her mother as Grace Hobbs. I will need to learn more about Grace Hobbs when I start proving the 5x great grandparents but this will be one of my pursuits when next we go to Salt Lake City.
A very interesting lecture at the OGS meeting last evening. Dr. Seely was speaking about Family Reconstruction. It is a subject that I use a great deal in Genealogy but her approach is to look at each individual and give them three characteristics if you are able to do that. Since I have learned a great deal about my great grandparents as a child I think I will be able to do that and even further back for a couple. I am certainly lucky to have had such chatty grandparents. They were both very happy people - my paternal grandfather and my maternal grandmother. I do not actually think they were overly fond of each other but I loved them both dearly. Although my grandmother always said I didn't love her until my grandfather died. That may be true but he did live with us and I saw him daily for a good part of my young life.
He loved to sit and talk about Hampshire and his early life by the time I knew him. Since he was 70 when I was born and nearly 79 when he died this was a short time for me but filled with day after day of discovery. We used to watch the clouds go by over the backyard after he finished gardening and it was he who encouraged my imagination to see all sorts of things in the big fluffy clouds. It was the wonderful time of childhood when responsibilities are a long way into the future. I am glad that he repeated his stories many many times because I was so young.
Last evening the lecturer encouraged us to close our eyes and bring in a memory although she was perhaps thinking of a not so pleasant memory I decided to go for that pleasant memory of being totally loved by a grandparent. I was thinking initially of the love that shone from my husband's mother's eyes when she was with our daughters. She enjoyed them completely when she was staying with us. I let that permeate my being and then I let my mind drift back to my own childhood where I could feel that love from my grandfather's eyes as he sat and talked to me or we went for a long walk. Last night I was remembering how he used to quote the names of his ancestors and he always started with my name (I think he wanted me to remember very badly). All of his papers were destroyed when he died except for one small packed that I have which included pictures and a few other items but nothing about his family tree. I wish he had constructed one but it was in his mind and he was passing it to me. As it turned out I was able to remember back to Joseph who came from Andover and a jumble of names before that with Thomas, William, John and Nicholas. I forgot Richard over time but remembering Nicholas was important. He died at Old House and my father had also said that through the years so when I found Nicholas and that he died at Old House I knew that I had found the right trail. It was a slow one though.
My next group to work on will be the Rew/Moggridge/Sidderfin/Kent families. I have not accomplished as much as I thought that I would because we are re-organizing. It will be good to have it all done and there is cleaning thrown in with that :)
A very interesting lecture at the OGS meeting last evening. Dr. Seely was speaking about Family Reconstruction. It is a subject that I use a great deal in Genealogy but her approach is to look at each individual and give them three characteristics if you are able to do that. Since I have learned a great deal about my great grandparents as a child I think I will be able to do that and even further back for a couple. I am certainly lucky to have had such chatty grandparents. They were both very happy people - my paternal grandfather and my maternal grandmother. I do not actually think they were overly fond of each other but I loved them both dearly. Although my grandmother always said I didn't love her until my grandfather died. That may be true but he did live with us and I saw him daily for a good part of my young life.
He loved to sit and talk about Hampshire and his early life by the time I knew him. Since he was 70 when I was born and nearly 79 when he died this was a short time for me but filled with day after day of discovery. We used to watch the clouds go by over the backyard after he finished gardening and it was he who encouraged my imagination to see all sorts of things in the big fluffy clouds. It was the wonderful time of childhood when responsibilities are a long way into the future. I am glad that he repeated his stories many many times because I was so young.
Last evening the lecturer encouraged us to close our eyes and bring in a memory although she was perhaps thinking of a not so pleasant memory I decided to go for that pleasant memory of being totally loved by a grandparent. I was thinking initially of the love that shone from my husband's mother's eyes when she was with our daughters. She enjoyed them completely when she was staying with us. I let that permeate my being and then I let my mind drift back to my own childhood where I could feel that love from my grandfather's eyes as he sat and talked to me or we went for a long walk. Last night I was remembering how he used to quote the names of his ancestors and he always started with my name (I think he wanted me to remember very badly). All of his papers were destroyed when he died except for one small packed that I have which included pictures and a few other items but nothing about his family tree. I wish he had constructed one but it was in his mind and he was passing it to me. As it turned out I was able to remember back to Joseph who came from Andover and a jumble of names before that with Thomas, William, John and Nicholas. I forgot Richard over time but remembering Nicholas was important. He died at Old House and my father had also said that through the years so when I found Nicholas and that he died at Old House I knew that I had found the right trail. It was a slow one though.
My next group to work on will be the Rew/Moggridge/Sidderfin/Kent families. I have not accomplished as much as I thought that I would because we are re-organizing. It will be good to have it all done and there is cleaning thrown in with that :)
Sunday, November 15, 2009
The Pearce Family
Today I worked on the Pearce family of South Molton, Devon. I extracted all the Pearce entries from the IGI and built a table with names of fathers across the top and in columns under the names I entered the male children born to the forename from the earliest register to the 1730s. I then organized the births into ten year intervals and blocked family groups and redid the chart. I then drew family charts and found that there were nine males who were fathers of children born between 1600 and 1630 and labeled them as A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, and I. I was able to enter all but three sets of information into these nine heads of families except for determining the children of three Johns born 1629, 1636, and 1638. As it turned out this was less of a problem once I started looking at potential fathers for my John baptized between 1655 and 1665.
The other problem I was trying to solve is the marriage of my Philip Pearse (b 1703). There were two possibilities for the mother of my Martha Pearse. It is logical to choose Grace Hobbs because of the naming of the children and the age of the groom. Philip would have been only 20 years old at the first marriage and it would have been a second marriage for the other Philip. The name Philip was used three times until the last child survived. The burial of the first wife is, I think, in the burial register. It is difficult to read. I wonder if I can link the heads of families together into families but that will be a project for later when I get back further in time.
I know that Philip's father is John and that his mother was Martha Gwythers. The father of this John becomes the problem area - a patron entry on the IGI suggests that his father was Robert and that fits ideally into one of the family trees that I created. This would be John baptized 14 Apr 1660 at South Molton and the son of Robert Pearce from the Parish Register Transcription. This Robert was baptized Mar 1631 and his father was Robert baptized 25 Jun 1602 and the son of John Pearse (one of my founders in my chart). This is the largest family chart and the sons of the first John are: Robert, George, William, Thomas and Philip. The names George, William and Philip are used a great deal in my family lines later.
I extracted all the Pearse members from the South Molton Protestation Returns. I am able to fit all of them into family groupings except the four Johns.
Pearse Alexander
Pearse Christopher Sen
Pearse Christopher Jun
Pearse George
Pearse Henry
Pearse Humphrey
Pearse John Sen
Pearse John
Pearse John
Pearse John
Pearse Oliver
Pearse Philip
Pearse Philip
Pearse Simon
Pearse William
Marriages in the International Genealogical Index (IGI)
18 Oct 1628 Pearse Christofer Walron Mary
4 May 1720 Pearse Christopher Dunning Mary
22 Oct 1721 Pearse Christopher Tapscott Hannah
9 Sep 1658 Pearce Henry Shopland Emmott
29 Oct 1623 Pearse Hugh Sheerland Marye
10 Nov 1604 Pearce John Moore Peternell
15 Jan 1619 Pearce John Huctstable Agnes
1 Oct 1627 Pearse John Cannyforde Jane
15 Jan 1628 Pearse John Kinge Maude
19 Jun 1638 Pierce John Cole Rebecca
30 Jan 1670 Pearse John Woollocot Joane
9 May 1686 Pearce John Gwythers Martha
9 Feb 1723 Pearse Philip Parramore Joan
7 Apr 1728 Pearse Philip Hobbs Grace
27 Oct 1712 Pearse Phillip Turner Grace
14 Oct 1632 Pearse Robert Beere Christian
23 Aug 1681 Pearse Robert Jess Agnis
18 Sep 1639 Pearce Samuel Carpenter Agnes
20 Jan 1720 Pearse William Harries Joan
No Pearse entries in 1581 Tax Subsidy which is interesting.
Forename Surname Suffix Status Amount
Thomas Hacche ar L 10
William Horwood Gent L 10
Hugh Pollard Gent G 10
Dorothy Clotworthy Wid G 8
Christopher Squyre G 8
Thomas Rashleigh G 7
Joan Carpenter Wid G 5
William Amerye G 7
Robert Cotworthie G 7
John Herneman G 4
George Chaple G 4
Geffry Lawdye G 3
Thomas Allen G 4
Thomas Hobbes G 4
Roger Walshcotte G 3
William Cobleye G 3
William Chapell G 8
Richard Paynter G 3
Christopher Pincombe G 4
John Snowe G 3
Robert Hoyell G 6
John Pincombe G 4
Hugh Chapington G 3
John Haywodde G 3
William Rashley G 4
Thomas Jennynges G 3
Robert Gun G 3
Anthony Rashleighe G 3
Hugh Badcocke G 4
John Lock G 3
Thomas Brooke G 3
Maculin Bulkworthie G 3
John Pincombe Jun G 3
William Maye G 4
Gabriel Webber G 3
Thomas Griffin G 3
John Shapton G 3
John Takle L 1
Agnes Bonde Wid L 1
Grace Hunt Wid L 1
Anthony Clatworthie G 12
John Pincombe Sen G 12
John Pawle G 7
Roger Webber G 6
John Sherland G 8
Nicholas Chappie G 4
Thomas Harrys G 5
John Tamse G 3
William Huton Alien
Thomas Gun G 3
Tomorrow I will prove Martha Pearse as I now have enough information and then move on to the next couple of 4x great grandparents. This is going much slower than I thought that it would. I want to spend only my mornings on genealogy once I have got all this information entered for the 4x great grandparents and sew or do other needlework the other half of the day.
Took the two gift bags into Church this morning in a rush since we are really going to be busy and I did not wish to miss the deadline of December 7. When I arrived I suddenly realized I had forgotten to write on the tags that they were for a man medium and a woman medium. I had to buy a second bag and it was a little bit smaller so didn't know what they would want to do. I probably should give up trying to do some of these things as it makes for extra work for committee members. I find rushing since I injured my shoulder is always a bad idea. Yesterday was too full a day.
The other problem I was trying to solve is the marriage of my Philip Pearse (b 1703). There were two possibilities for the mother of my Martha Pearse. It is logical to choose Grace Hobbs because of the naming of the children and the age of the groom. Philip would have been only 20 years old at the first marriage and it would have been a second marriage for the other Philip. The name Philip was used three times until the last child survived. The burial of the first wife is, I think, in the burial register. It is difficult to read. I wonder if I can link the heads of families together into families but that will be a project for later when I get back further in time.
I know that Philip's father is John and that his mother was Martha Gwythers. The father of this John becomes the problem area - a patron entry on the IGI suggests that his father was Robert and that fits ideally into one of the family trees that I created. This would be John baptized 14 Apr 1660 at South Molton and the son of Robert Pearce from the Parish Register Transcription. This Robert was baptized Mar 1631 and his father was Robert baptized 25 Jun 1602 and the son of John Pearse (one of my founders in my chart). This is the largest family chart and the sons of the first John are: Robert, George, William, Thomas and Philip. The names George, William and Philip are used a great deal in my family lines later.
I extracted all the Pearse members from the South Molton Protestation Returns. I am able to fit all of them into family groupings except the four Johns.
Pearse Alexander
Pearse Christopher Sen
Pearse Christopher Jun
Pearse George
Pearse Henry
Pearse Humphrey
Pearse John Sen
Pearse John
Pearse John
Pearse John
Pearse Oliver
Pearse Philip
Pearse Philip
Pearse Simon
Pearse William
Marriages in the International Genealogical Index (IGI)
18 Oct 1628 Pearse Christofer Walron Mary
4 May 1720 Pearse Christopher Dunning Mary
22 Oct 1721 Pearse Christopher Tapscott Hannah
9 Sep 1658 Pearce Henry Shopland Emmott
29 Oct 1623 Pearse Hugh Sheerland Marye
10 Nov 1604 Pearce John Moore Peternell
15 Jan 1619 Pearce John Huctstable Agnes
1 Oct 1627 Pearse John Cannyforde Jane
15 Jan 1628 Pearse John Kinge Maude
19 Jun 1638 Pierce John Cole Rebecca
30 Jan 1670 Pearse John Woollocot Joane
9 May 1686 Pearce John Gwythers Martha
9 Feb 1723 Pearse Philip Parramore Joan
7 Apr 1728 Pearse Philip Hobbs Grace
27 Oct 1712 Pearse Phillip Turner Grace
14 Oct 1632 Pearse Robert Beere Christian
23 Aug 1681 Pearse Robert Jess Agnis
18 Sep 1639 Pearce Samuel Carpenter Agnes
20 Jan 1720 Pearse William Harries Joan
No Pearse entries in 1581 Tax Subsidy which is interesting.
Forename Surname Suffix Status Amount
Thomas Hacche ar L 10
William Horwood Gent L 10
Hugh Pollard Gent G 10
Dorothy Clotworthy Wid G 8
Christopher Squyre G 8
Thomas Rashleigh G 7
Joan Carpenter Wid G 5
William Amerye G 7
Robert Cotworthie G 7
John Herneman G 4
George Chaple G 4
Geffry Lawdye G 3
Thomas Allen G 4
Thomas Hobbes G 4
Roger Walshcotte G 3
William Cobleye G 3
William Chapell G 8
Richard Paynter G 3
Christopher Pincombe G 4
John Snowe G 3
Robert Hoyell G 6
John Pincombe G 4
Hugh Chapington G 3
John Haywodde G 3
William Rashley G 4
Thomas Jennynges G 3
Robert Gun G 3
Anthony Rashleighe G 3
Hugh Badcocke G 4
John Lock G 3
Thomas Brooke G 3
Maculin Bulkworthie G 3
John Pincombe Jun G 3
William Maye G 4
Gabriel Webber G 3
Thomas Griffin G 3
John Shapton G 3
John Takle L 1
Agnes Bonde Wid L 1
Grace Hunt Wid L 1
Anthony Clatworthie G 12
John Pincombe Sen G 12
John Pawle G 7
Roger Webber G 6
John Sherland G 8
Nicholas Chappie G 4
Thomas Harrys G 5
John Tamse G 3
William Huton Alien
Thomas Gun G 3
Tomorrow I will prove Martha Pearse as I now have enough information and then move on to the next couple of 4x great grandparents. This is going much slower than I thought that it would. I want to spend only my mornings on genealogy once I have got all this information entered for the 4x great grandparents and sew or do other needlework the other half of the day.
Took the two gift bags into Church this morning in a rush since we are really going to be busy and I did not wish to miss the deadline of December 7. When I arrived I suddenly realized I had forgotten to write on the tags that they were for a man medium and a woman medium. I had to buy a second bag and it was a little bit smaller so didn't know what they would want to do. I probably should give up trying to do some of these things as it makes for extra work for committee members. I find rushing since I injured my shoulder is always a bad idea. Yesterday was too full a day.
Saturday, November 14, 2009
Proving 4x great grandparents
I spent yesterday proving two of my 4x great grandparents. I had so much information on John Pincombe that it took me ages to enter all of it in to his Legacy file. Not so much on his wife Mary Charley (Charlie). Unfortunately the priest at that time had women sign with their new married name so I have no idea on how Mary would have signed her surname. The Charley family was located at Arlington, Kentisbury near Barnstaple and Combe Martin in this time period. The Hugh Charley at Arlington (wife Mary) is the father of the Mary Charley baptized 21 Sep 1735 and this would be a reasonable age for Mary. I do not yet know the connection between this Hugh Charley and the Charley families at Kentisbury and Combe Martin but they are all less than 10 miles from Barnstaple (Arlington is 6 miles, Kentisbury is 8 miles and Combe Martin is 9 miles). They are all in a northeasterly direction from Barnstaple (Bishops Nympton is 14 miles from Bishops Nympton). I have not yet found a Charley family living closer but the priest records that Mary Charley is of the parish (perhaps she was living/staying with a relative). John was 39 when he married and Mary possibly 32 in 1767. They had six children though between 1768 and 1778.
I need to look through all the parish registers to see if I can discover any more information on Mary Charley. She has been my brick wall almost from the very beginning as my mother knew her name from her father. She was my grandfather's grandfather's grandmother. By the time my 2x great grandfather was born both Mary and John had died. His father Robert was 28 when he married and my 2x great grandfather John was 26 when he married. Then my grandfather was 41 when he married thus making quite long generations.
As it turns out all of my grandparents were born in the 1800s - 1872, 1875, 1876 and 1886. My great grandparents were born in 1837, 1839, 1845, 1850, 1850, 1853, 1859, and 1859. My 2x great grandparents were born in 1799, 1801, 1804, 1804, 1805, 1808, 1810, 1820, 1824, 1825, 1825, 1826, 1827, 1828, 1830, and 1841. My husband has a 2x great grandparent born in 1764. The bonus is that we are not looking for information that is still private as we know the birth/marriage and death dates of our parents.
I carried on with my proving of 4x great grandparents and started pulling out material on Philip Rowcliffe and Martha Pearse. I have quite a bit on Philip as well with land records but I do not have the marriage lines for Philip and Martha because my South Molton fiche do not do the period past 1754 and they married in 1760 so I will need to locate that record at Salt Lake City. I will complete them today and hopefully move on to John Rew, Sarah Moggridge, Robert Siderfin and Grace Kent. I was trying to do four per day!
This is the day that my daughter gets her first fitting on her wedding dress. The dress is quite lovely and will suit her. My own dress is now complete - I have added carriers for the black velvet ribbon and we will see if she likes the 3 metres or reduce to whatever she does like. I just need to hem it and add a couple of tabs to the neckline and a hook and eye. I am letting it hang though to let the natural folds of the fabric express themselves. I will need to stem out one fold line although it is barely visible now.
I want to sew my new nightdress as well in the next little while. If I am happy with it I will buy another piece of flanellette and do a second one. I am also going to buy a pattern for an 1800s dress of a Scot woman for my Routledge ancestry. I will represent that line when we go to functions that need a costume. I want to make a new costume for my husband as well since I made the other one when I was working and I was not overly pleased with it. I have more time to do a proper job of finishing it.
Back to proving ancestors. This is the slow methodical part as one works their way back in each line. I have no idea how far back I can get except in some of the lines that readily go back into the 1400s others are hopefully stuck in the mid 1700s or even one line (one of my great grandmothers and my mtDNA line!) that is family lore only from the mid 1800s back. My mtDNA matches are from Argyll Scotland though which is very interesting. Hence my interest in doing a dress of a Scot woman which would represent my Routledge ancestry and perhaps others to be found over time.
I need to look through all the parish registers to see if I can discover any more information on Mary Charley. She has been my brick wall almost from the very beginning as my mother knew her name from her father. She was my grandfather's grandfather's grandmother. By the time my 2x great grandfather was born both Mary and John had died. His father Robert was 28 when he married and my 2x great grandfather John was 26 when he married. Then my grandfather was 41 when he married thus making quite long generations.
As it turns out all of my grandparents were born in the 1800s - 1872, 1875, 1876 and 1886. My great grandparents were born in 1837, 1839, 1845, 1850, 1850, 1853, 1859, and 1859. My 2x great grandparents were born in 1799, 1801, 1804, 1804, 1805, 1808, 1810, 1820, 1824, 1825, 1825, 1826, 1827, 1828, 1830, and 1841. My husband has a 2x great grandparent born in 1764. The bonus is that we are not looking for information that is still private as we know the birth/marriage and death dates of our parents.
I carried on with my proving of 4x great grandparents and started pulling out material on Philip Rowcliffe and Martha Pearse. I have quite a bit on Philip as well with land records but I do not have the marriage lines for Philip and Martha because my South Molton fiche do not do the period past 1754 and they married in 1760 so I will need to locate that record at Salt Lake City. I will complete them today and hopefully move on to John Rew, Sarah Moggridge, Robert Siderfin and Grace Kent. I was trying to do four per day!
This is the day that my daughter gets her first fitting on her wedding dress. The dress is quite lovely and will suit her. My own dress is now complete - I have added carriers for the black velvet ribbon and we will see if she likes the 3 metres or reduce to whatever she does like. I just need to hem it and add a couple of tabs to the neckline and a hook and eye. I am letting it hang though to let the natural folds of the fabric express themselves. I will need to stem out one fold line although it is barely visible now.
I want to sew my new nightdress as well in the next little while. If I am happy with it I will buy another piece of flanellette and do a second one. I am also going to buy a pattern for an 1800s dress of a Scot woman for my Routledge ancestry. I will represent that line when we go to functions that need a costume. I want to make a new costume for my husband as well since I made the other one when I was working and I was not overly pleased with it. I have more time to do a proper job of finishing it.
Back to proving ancestors. This is the slow methodical part as one works their way back in each line. I have no idea how far back I can get except in some of the lines that readily go back into the 1400s others are hopefully stuck in the mid 1700s or even one line (one of my great grandmothers and my mtDNA line!) that is family lore only from the mid 1800s back. My mtDNA matches are from Argyll Scotland though which is very interesting. Hence my interest in doing a dress of a Scot woman which would represent my Routledge ancestry and perhaps others to be found over time.
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Remembrance Day and Presentation
We attended the Remembrance Day Service at the Cenotaph in downtown Ottawa. This year TRH Prince Charles and his wife the Duchess of Cornwall were here to remember with us. I haven't seen the streets so full at a Remembrance Day in my 35 years in Ottawa. They should be pleased and for him it was likely quite poignant as his Grandfather King George VI and Grandmother Queen Elizabeth were the last Royals to attend a Remembrance Day Service here. In 1939 they made their first Canadian tour and were here for the dedication of the War Memorial (with war looming over us once again in Europe). The monument had been ten years in building and tenders were first called in 1925. Later WWII and the Korean War were added to the Monument.
I spent the rest of the day putting together my daughter's childhood pictures into a powerpoint presentation for their wedding. I have just 80 pictures of it and there will be more that they have scanned in.
Today I fixed red eye on some of the pictures and reset them into powerpoint. Then we were off doing errands and I bought flannel to make a nightdress for myself. Now that I am back to sewing I rather think I will keep it up. It gets me away from the computer screen for awhile and is probably good for me. Plus I have a brand new sewing machine (actually five years old) that I have scarcely used. I bought it when I was still working with the idea that I would have it for later and this is definitely later. It has a stretch stitch and can be set (is computerized) for specific patterns.
I also want to knit a sweater for Hogan (a 15 year old chihuahua) for the winter that will cover his hip area as he is getting to be a little arthritic for Christmas. We also bought some of the items for our Christmas bags at Church for Centre 454. We are not doing Samaritan boxes this year but then I have always felt we should support those at home as well as those in the poorer countries.
For genealogy work I will be doing some proofing of my 4x great grandparents. I want to do all the ones for whom I have the proofs at hand and then I can work on the ones that I need to transcribe items or do lookups in my purchased fiche. Of my 64 4x great grandparents I have the information for 55 although for some it is quite sparse. For 8 I have absolutely nothing and for 1 I have a forename. For 46 of the 55 I have all the information that I need to prove them and I have now completed the proofs in Legacy for 4. I would say my aim should be to complete the 42 by the end of next week if I can manage that. That gives me eight days with just five per day. I think I need to schedule myself as I tend to drift away onto other projects. That just leaves me nine to pull the information out from images and other sources that I have for them. The other nine people I will have to see if anything emerges as I am looking for the other eight but they will be on my to do list for Salt Lake City (and I will buy parish fiche for some of them in the new year).
Then I will turn to the 5x great grandparents and I have information already on 60 of the 128 that will let me prove each of them. For another 10 I have information that I need to ferret out that I already know about. Possibly for another 20 I own the information but do not have the previous generation to show me the way - working on the 4x people will help with that. That leaves me with 38 people for whom I will do research in Salt Lake City and fortunately they follow on from the group above about whom I do not have a lot of information. This time will be a strictly find the family material as opposed to discover more about the areas that was my criteria for the last visit
Definitely the Buller family, Knight family, the Farmer family and the Cheatle family will be on that list along with several others. If I give each one of them half of a day then I would be able to do 12 families in our time there. Since families overlap in areas this may actually be 24 families depending on the generation. I would like to complete the 5x great grandparents and come back with material on the 6x great grandparents. The problem with being able to trace all of your lines is ever with me but which one would I choose not to discover. Tempting to leave out my paternal grandmother's paternal line since she was illegitimate but her father was reputed to be Cotterill by the priest and only one Cotterill family in that area since the father of the possible father had only one sister and his father was from Woodford Wiltshire which was a good distance from Kimpton Hampshire. I decided to research it as long as it was reasonable straightforward but that I would not purchase documents to any great extent. What I find I will use and otherwise it will cease probably around the 6x great grandparents. I am back to the 4x and in some cases 5x great grandparents already as most of the lines were at Kimpton from the early 1700s on thus far. I need to purchase the fiche for further back.
I spent the rest of the day putting together my daughter's childhood pictures into a powerpoint presentation for their wedding. I have just 80 pictures of it and there will be more that they have scanned in.
Today I fixed red eye on some of the pictures and reset them into powerpoint. Then we were off doing errands and I bought flannel to make a nightdress for myself. Now that I am back to sewing I rather think I will keep it up. It gets me away from the computer screen for awhile and is probably good for me. Plus I have a brand new sewing machine (actually five years old) that I have scarcely used. I bought it when I was still working with the idea that I would have it for later and this is definitely later. It has a stretch stitch and can be set (is computerized) for specific patterns.
I also want to knit a sweater for Hogan (a 15 year old chihuahua) for the winter that will cover his hip area as he is getting to be a little arthritic for Christmas. We also bought some of the items for our Christmas bags at Church for Centre 454. We are not doing Samaritan boxes this year but then I have always felt we should support those at home as well as those in the poorer countries.
For genealogy work I will be doing some proofing of my 4x great grandparents. I want to do all the ones for whom I have the proofs at hand and then I can work on the ones that I need to transcribe items or do lookups in my purchased fiche. Of my 64 4x great grandparents I have the information for 55 although for some it is quite sparse. For 8 I have absolutely nothing and for 1 I have a forename. For 46 of the 55 I have all the information that I need to prove them and I have now completed the proofs in Legacy for 4. I would say my aim should be to complete the 42 by the end of next week if I can manage that. That gives me eight days with just five per day. I think I need to schedule myself as I tend to drift away onto other projects. That just leaves me nine to pull the information out from images and other sources that I have for them. The other nine people I will have to see if anything emerges as I am looking for the other eight but they will be on my to do list for Salt Lake City (and I will buy parish fiche for some of them in the new year).
Then I will turn to the 5x great grandparents and I have information already on 60 of the 128 that will let me prove each of them. For another 10 I have information that I need to ferret out that I already know about. Possibly for another 20 I own the information but do not have the previous generation to show me the way - working on the 4x people will help with that. That leaves me with 38 people for whom I will do research in Salt Lake City and fortunately they follow on from the group above about whom I do not have a lot of information. This time will be a strictly find the family material as opposed to discover more about the areas that was my criteria for the last visit
Definitely the Buller family, Knight family, the Farmer family and the Cheatle family will be on that list along with several others. If I give each one of them half of a day then I would be able to do 12 families in our time there. Since families overlap in areas this may actually be 24 families depending on the generation. I would like to complete the 5x great grandparents and come back with material on the 6x great grandparents. The problem with being able to trace all of your lines is ever with me but which one would I choose not to discover. Tempting to leave out my paternal grandmother's paternal line since she was illegitimate but her father was reputed to be Cotterill by the priest and only one Cotterill family in that area since the father of the possible father had only one sister and his father was from Woodford Wiltshire which was a good distance from Kimpton Hampshire. I decided to research it as long as it was reasonable straightforward but that I would not purchase documents to any great extent. What I find I will use and otherwise it will cease probably around the 6x great grandparents. I am back to the 4x and in some cases 5x great grandparents already as most of the lines were at Kimpton from the early 1700s on thus far. I need to purchase the fiche for further back.
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
West Hampshire Tax Subsidy
I decided to turn the 30+ pages of text images into a flat file for use in my West Hampshire families (that spill back and forth across the Wiltshire and Berkshire borders). Although my great grandfather was an agricultural labourer his ancestors were farmers on his paternal line. They lived in the Andover area at least from the late 1400s on. I managed to get through about 1/3 of the entries yesterday yielding me just over 600 entries. I have fields for the Division, Hundred, Tithing, Parish, Year of Subsidy, Forename, Surname, Suffix (or additional information), Category of Land Occupancy, Value of Subsidy, and Image number. I think that captures everything that is available to capture but there is still lots more room to add items if I change my mind!
I have completed Andover Hundred where most of my families were but the Blake family was large in the early 1500s and they quickly radiated out from this area into other sections of Hampshire. Eventually many settled in the Southampton area (my father was also born in this area) and the Blake lines coming directly down from Calne Wiltshire also gravitated to this area through the New Forest thus creating a lot of Blake lines and loss of knowledge of how they fitted into this family grouping. I can not say personally if my Blake line is descendant of the Calne Blake family although published literature indicates that they are. I am still with the father of my Nicholas Blake who was born at Andover in the late 1400s and married to Jone who left a will in 1527 which names all of their children but does not give the name of her husband which was thought to be William. But if it is he didn't leave a will which exists in the Hampshire Record Office. There are wills for a Robert and a Richard which I must purchase.
I completed the West Hampshire Tax Subsidy chart today from the material that I copied at Salt Lake City. It will let me sort on all the entries by surname, by area and help me to understand the movements of the various families in this time period 1571 - 1598.
Back to the proving of the 4x great grandparents. I have about 1000 images of the 2500 images left to look at, enter into pertinent spots in my Legacy file or transcribe. One set will take quite a while - the Manor Books for Upper Clatford and they are all in Latin. What do I hope to learn with all this reading of Manor Books/Poor Law Rates/Subsidies? Not so much what they owned but rather are there any interesting stories that come out of the records that would let me really feel close to my ancestors.
I once had someone ask me if I was looking for "a lost inheritance" but actually that doesn't interest me. I just would like to know as much about my ancestors as it is physically possible for me to know about them. Until I went to Italy and England in 2001 I really thought I knew all that I would ever know about my ancestors and there wasn't a driving urge to know more. But walking in places where they may have walked or did actually walk has an effect on you that you cannot just walk away from.
In a different century my Bishops Nympton ancestors walked up the same walk towards the parish Church that I walked. The trees (now chopped down perhaps because they were just too large) would have been there in their days and if they could whisper to me they could tell me about Robert Pincombe and Elizabeth Rowcliffe as they walked down this path on their wedding day after they were married. They could tell me about the baptisms of each of their eight children. They could tell me about the sadness as they buried William at 15 years of age. The sadness of Robert as he buried his wife just two years later and then Robert himself just two years after that. They could tell me about the weddings of their children, my 2x great grandparents were married at Bishops Nympton and Elizabeth Rew's cousin came all the way from Higher Upcott Farm near Wootton Courtney Somerset to be one of the witnesses.
Trees are amazing on our planet as they are here before we are and they will be here after we are gone. But back to work and entering all the proofs into my Legacy file for those who will come after me so that they can know as much as I know about my ancestors.
Tomorrow I shall continue working on my proofs for my 4x great grandparents.
I have completed Andover Hundred where most of my families were but the Blake family was large in the early 1500s and they quickly radiated out from this area into other sections of Hampshire. Eventually many settled in the Southampton area (my father was also born in this area) and the Blake lines coming directly down from Calne Wiltshire also gravitated to this area through the New Forest thus creating a lot of Blake lines and loss of knowledge of how they fitted into this family grouping. I can not say personally if my Blake line is descendant of the Calne Blake family although published literature indicates that they are. I am still with the father of my Nicholas Blake who was born at Andover in the late 1400s and married to Jone who left a will in 1527 which names all of their children but does not give the name of her husband which was thought to be William. But if it is he didn't leave a will which exists in the Hampshire Record Office. There are wills for a Robert and a Richard which I must purchase.
I completed the West Hampshire Tax Subsidy chart today from the material that I copied at Salt Lake City. It will let me sort on all the entries by surname, by area and help me to understand the movements of the various families in this time period 1571 - 1598.
Back to the proving of the 4x great grandparents. I have about 1000 images of the 2500 images left to look at, enter into pertinent spots in my Legacy file or transcribe. One set will take quite a while - the Manor Books for Upper Clatford and they are all in Latin. What do I hope to learn with all this reading of Manor Books/Poor Law Rates/Subsidies? Not so much what they owned but rather are there any interesting stories that come out of the records that would let me really feel close to my ancestors.
I once had someone ask me if I was looking for "a lost inheritance" but actually that doesn't interest me. I just would like to know as much about my ancestors as it is physically possible for me to know about them. Until I went to Italy and England in 2001 I really thought I knew all that I would ever know about my ancestors and there wasn't a driving urge to know more. But walking in places where they may have walked or did actually walk has an effect on you that you cannot just walk away from.
In a different century my Bishops Nympton ancestors walked up the same walk towards the parish Church that I walked. The trees (now chopped down perhaps because they were just too large) would have been there in their days and if they could whisper to me they could tell me about Robert Pincombe and Elizabeth Rowcliffe as they walked down this path on their wedding day after they were married. They could tell me about the baptisms of each of their eight children. They could tell me about the sadness as they buried William at 15 years of age. The sadness of Robert as he buried his wife just two years later and then Robert himself just two years after that. They could tell me about the weddings of their children, my 2x great grandparents were married at Bishops Nympton and Elizabeth Rew's cousin came all the way from Higher Upcott Farm near Wootton Courtney Somerset to be one of the witnesses.
Trees are amazing on our planet as they are here before we are and they will be here after we are gone. But back to work and entering all the proofs into my Legacy file for those who will come after me so that they can know as much as I know about my ancestors.
Tomorrow I shall continue working on my proofs for my 4x great grandparents.
Monday, November 9, 2009
Proving 4x great grandparents
I am now back to the project that I want to complete before we have our trip to Salt Lake City. I discovered I have proven Joseph Blake, Joanna King, John Coleman and I was working on Elizabeth Pearce. I discovered that Elizabeth (Pearce) Coleman had remarried in 1781 (her husband was buried in 1780 at Upper Clatford. I suspect that they lived with Dinah (Bever) Coleman and that they were involved in running an Inn although I still have to ferret out those details. The Coleman family had an Inn at Goodworth Clatford in the late 1600s and on into the 1700s but I am not sure how long they were there yet. Still working on those details! Elizabeth married John Head in 1781 at Upper Clatford. The marriage registration lists her as a widow and I finally have now found her burial registration in 1823 at Upper Clatford and she was 85 years old. This works well back to the Elizabeth Pearce baptized at Collingbourne Ducis in 1737. This is one record that I need to look at when we are in Salt Lake City. I did do some photography of this register but I was looking for Farmer entries. Elizabeth Pearce's grandmother was likely Anne Farmer and so the story may start to come together for the Farmer family which married into the Lambden family and then into the Blake family. I was trying to place Isaac Farmer in Andover but the only really good match is at Collingbourne Ducis. I completed my proof for Elizabeth Pearce but with the stipulation that I need to verify the details on her baptism and her parentage which would appear to be William Pearce and Elizabeth Hapgood. Elizabeth is from Collingbourne Ducis and the daughter of Thomas Hapgood and Anne Farmer. If I can indeed prove this line then the linkage with the Farmer family is very intriguing. Isaac Farmer was orphaned by the time he was 7 years old but he signs his marriage registration with a firm hand and well rounded letters leading one to suspect that he was educated. I related earlier my suspicions on the Farmer family so will not expand on that thought at this moment in time.
I then moved on to my Knight 4x great grandparents. This has been something I have wanted to work on for awhile. I did not do any Knight research at Salt Lake City and will do that the next time. I have a lot of information from other researchers who link this family back to the Knight family at Shaftesbury and then Cann before that. I am still sitting at William Knight (burial at Winterborne Stickland is a W Knight in 1827 and the individual is 67 years old which would work well with the records that I have for him. There are not a large number of Knight families at Stickland and I more or less know each one there. The baptism that I am looking for is at Spetisbury. At Spetisbury in 1787 we have three Knight members listed on the Militia list - William Knight bricklayer, John Knight bricklayer, John Knight, servant bricklayer (apprentice perhaps). Possibly this is John Knight son of William Knight. Eleanor though the wife of Ellis (son of William above) is the daughter of John Knight who is a bricklayer. Are they first cousins? Family lore says that they are first cousins. William Knight and Mary Dashwood at Shaftesbury (and the Knight family is not there after the 1860s when they are found at Spetisbury) had sons William, Samuel, George, John, and Thomas. Ideally I would be looking for this William to have sons William and John and indeed they do. But is this John the father of Eleanor who married Ellis the son of William. That I am still not sure about. The difference in their station continues to plague me - John was a bricklayer and William was an agricultural labourer. I need some interesting entry that relates them so that I can actually say that they are both the sons of William Knight the bricklayer. I have started entering my proofs for them. This is my grandfather Samuel Blake's line back (his 2x great grandparents). I have thus far proven four of the sixteen. I have evidence to complete John Butt, Jane Durnford, William Arnold and Elizabeth Malton. That brings me half way. I need to add to my Knight data which is four more (two Knight and one each Ellis and Vincent). The Farmer line I do have information on the likely father of Isaac and his name was John. I have no idea of his mother's name at the moment. The Lambden line I have information on Nathanael but I am not sure that the Nathanael baptized at Bradfield Berkshire is him and need to look at the other Nathaniel baptized in this time period in Berkshire. He was not baptized at St Mary Bourne. The wife of Nathanael Lambden is thus far unknown beyond the forename of Sarah and her burial in 1797 at Andover Hampshire.
Today I am having my eyes tested and more on that later. I have been meaning to upgrade my glasses for awhile but at $200 a lens I need to contemplate it for awhile! I think they need to be a little stronger perhaps in the reading portion. Although I am reading this quite well at 18 inches from the computer. We will see!
I shall dedicate another day to my grandfather's 2x great grandparents as that should permit me to add all the proofs and images to my Legacy file. Then I shall move on to my grandmother Blake's families. I will prove her "natural" parent line Cotterill (I am missing one of her 2x great grandmothers) but I want to find the grandparents of her adopted father William Taylor and perhaps beyond if I am lucky. The researcher who is doing this line has not gone beyond what I have done thus far. Perhaps she will later and she lives in England so has easier access to the registers. For her mother's line I will be able to prove those eight lines as I have collected all the evidence.
For my maternal grandfather I have the proofs for all sixteen of his 2x great grandparents. I collected all of that information (which I didn't have already) when we were at Salt Lake City last time. For my maternal grandmother I still have the problem of using family lore to connect my Ellen Taylor (her mother) back to her parents. If that connection is true then I have the proofs for five out of eight. On my grandmother's father's side I have the proofs for four out of eight. I need to work on the Cheatle lineat the 4x great grandparents but I have the fiche for that. For my Christopher Buller's parents I do not have even an inkling at this point in time. Another line to research at Salt Lake City.
That means I will work on the Pearce family at Abbotts Ann/Collingbourne Kingston, Collingbourne Ducis to find William Pearce my 5x great grandfather and his line. I will work on the Knight family to sort them out. I will work on the Farmer family at Collingbourne Ducis - I have some information on them already that I need to sort. I will work on the Lambden family in Berkshire. I will look at my paternal Grandmother's natural parentage at the 5x great grandparent level. I will seek out the family of William Taylor (her adopted father). I want to do more work on the Charley family at Kentisbear Devon. I have a few 5x great grandparents in my mother's that are known and I need to check the registers for their parents information.
I shall soon start to build my excel file for Salt Lake City. I have one created that includes the itens that I set aside last time and I will add more items to it. I know that I can look at about 40 to 50 films if I control my day very well. I am more experienced with the camera which will help and I will repeat the few pictures that are blurry and I really want to have a good copy. Quite often the ones that were blurry were not a problem for me.
I spent most of the afternoon working on the West Hampshire Tax Subsidy as I had copied about 30 pages when we were at Salt Lake city. I am producing an excel file that I can sort by surname, forename, year or place. I have a number of Hampshire ancestors who are listed in this set of records. Since I did not have eye drops I could spend the rest of the day working - a real surprise.
My new glasses will be ready in a couple of weeks and will be a change. They are not big round lenses this time but rather more of an oblong shape. I tried them out for a bit and quite liked them.
Tomorrow I will continue with the Tax Subsidy for West Hampshire.
I then moved on to my Knight 4x great grandparents. This has been something I have wanted to work on for awhile. I did not do any Knight research at Salt Lake City and will do that the next time. I have a lot of information from other researchers who link this family back to the Knight family at Shaftesbury and then Cann before that. I am still sitting at William Knight (burial at Winterborne Stickland is a W Knight in 1827 and the individual is 67 years old which would work well with the records that I have for him. There are not a large number of Knight families at Stickland and I more or less know each one there. The baptism that I am looking for is at Spetisbury. At Spetisbury in 1787 we have three Knight members listed on the Militia list - William Knight bricklayer, John Knight bricklayer, John Knight, servant bricklayer (apprentice perhaps). Possibly this is John Knight son of William Knight. Eleanor though the wife of Ellis (son of William above) is the daughter of John Knight who is a bricklayer. Are they first cousins? Family lore says that they are first cousins. William Knight and Mary Dashwood at Shaftesbury (and the Knight family is not there after the 1860s when they are found at Spetisbury) had sons William, Samuel, George, John, and Thomas. Ideally I would be looking for this William to have sons William and John and indeed they do. But is this John the father of Eleanor who married Ellis the son of William. That I am still not sure about. The difference in their station continues to plague me - John was a bricklayer and William was an agricultural labourer. I need some interesting entry that relates them so that I can actually say that they are both the sons of William Knight the bricklayer. I have started entering my proofs for them. This is my grandfather Samuel Blake's line back (his 2x great grandparents). I have thus far proven four of the sixteen. I have evidence to complete John Butt, Jane Durnford, William Arnold and Elizabeth Malton. That brings me half way. I need to add to my Knight data which is four more (two Knight and one each Ellis and Vincent). The Farmer line I do have information on the likely father of Isaac and his name was John. I have no idea of his mother's name at the moment. The Lambden line I have information on Nathanael but I am not sure that the Nathanael baptized at Bradfield Berkshire is him and need to look at the other Nathaniel baptized in this time period in Berkshire. He was not baptized at St Mary Bourne. The wife of Nathanael Lambden is thus far unknown beyond the forename of Sarah and her burial in 1797 at Andover Hampshire.
Today I am having my eyes tested and more on that later. I have been meaning to upgrade my glasses for awhile but at $200 a lens I need to contemplate it for awhile! I think they need to be a little stronger perhaps in the reading portion. Although I am reading this quite well at 18 inches from the computer. We will see!
I shall dedicate another day to my grandfather's 2x great grandparents as that should permit me to add all the proofs and images to my Legacy file. Then I shall move on to my grandmother Blake's families. I will prove her "natural" parent line Cotterill (I am missing one of her 2x great grandmothers) but I want to find the grandparents of her adopted father William Taylor and perhaps beyond if I am lucky. The researcher who is doing this line has not gone beyond what I have done thus far. Perhaps she will later and she lives in England so has easier access to the registers. For her mother's line I will be able to prove those eight lines as I have collected all the evidence.
For my maternal grandfather I have the proofs for all sixteen of his 2x great grandparents. I collected all of that information (which I didn't have already) when we were at Salt Lake City last time. For my maternal grandmother I still have the problem of using family lore to connect my Ellen Taylor (her mother) back to her parents. If that connection is true then I have the proofs for five out of eight. On my grandmother's father's side I have the proofs for four out of eight. I need to work on the Cheatle lineat the 4x great grandparents but I have the fiche for that. For my Christopher Buller's parents I do not have even an inkling at this point in time. Another line to research at Salt Lake City.
That means I will work on the Pearce family at Abbotts Ann/Collingbourne Kingston, Collingbourne Ducis to find William Pearce my 5x great grandfather and his line. I will work on the Knight family to sort them out. I will work on the Farmer family at Collingbourne Ducis - I have some information on them already that I need to sort. I will work on the Lambden family in Berkshire. I will look at my paternal Grandmother's natural parentage at the 5x great grandparent level. I will seek out the family of William Taylor (her adopted father). I want to do more work on the Charley family at Kentisbear Devon. I have a few 5x great grandparents in my mother's that are known and I need to check the registers for their parents information.
I shall soon start to build my excel file for Salt Lake City. I have one created that includes the itens that I set aside last time and I will add more items to it. I know that I can look at about 40 to 50 films if I control my day very well. I am more experienced with the camera which will help and I will repeat the few pictures that are blurry and I really want to have a good copy. Quite often the ones that were blurry were not a problem for me.
I spent most of the afternoon working on the West Hampshire Tax Subsidy as I had copied about 30 pages when we were at Salt Lake city. I am producing an excel file that I can sort by surname, forename, year or place. I have a number of Hampshire ancestors who are listed in this set of records. Since I did not have eye drops I could spend the rest of the day working - a real surprise.
My new glasses will be ready in a couple of weeks and will be a change. They are not big round lenses this time but rather more of an oblong shape. I tried them out for a bit and quite liked them.
Tomorrow I will continue with the Tax Subsidy for West Hampshire.
Sunday, November 8, 2009
New York State Library Research
I spent several hours this morning entering all the new images into my 2009 excel file to make it easier to find items. I want to work on some of the material but sent the file off to my husband as well because they are his ancestors. Because we have tried the "frontal" approach on his Kipp and Mead ancestors unsuccessfully it is time to start moving away from that concept and work on the families in the area and related families by searching genealogies. This was a suggestion by Henry Hoff who was one of the consultants at the Albany Conference. Although Ed has been accumulating all information that he finds on the Kip family actually bringing down the contemporary families isn't something that he was necessarily working at unless they were related (i.e. siblings).
I found that Sarah Guernsey has several possible sets of parents on World Connect. I also found a will at Albany for a Peter Garnsey where he mentions the heirs of Jonathan Mead (1812). This could be Jonathan Mead married to Sarah Guernsey and these heirs would be Jehiel (died of wounds in the Revolution)'s descendants, Jonathan (the Cooper III) and to the best of our knowledge Jonathan Kipp is living with him at this date as he doesn't arrive in Canada until 1819 or 1820 - his descendants, Nathaniel Mead (married 1 Hannah Lamb and 2 Martha Quimby)'s descendants and Nathaniel is still living in 1812, and Hannah married to Stephen Atwater and she is still alive (died in 1835) and Titus who died from wounds in the revolution in 1785 (he left no known descendants). Ordering his will could be very interesting as it may provide more details on Jonathan. Jonathan Mead and Sarah Guernsey were still alive on the 1790 census and likely living with Nathaniel their son at Northeast Town. That was one rather interesting find but a search of the Gurnsey, Garnsey family books did not reveal any further information.
I shall construct a couple of *.pdf documents of information that I gleaned from a couple of journals to make it more readable. They should help with looking at the 18th century Dutchess County documents in order to determine if we should order a copy as they are all held on microfilm at Salt Lake City.
I did some searching online and found that the ancestors of Ruth Hardey have been a popular post to World Connect. Whether they have all taken from each other or several have arrived at the names individually is difficult to tell. A couple have sources so will check those out next time we are at a repository that includes the information mentioned. Ruth Hardey's mother is said to be Ann Husted. Her brother Angell Husted married Mary Mead according to our Mead Research Group. No parentage for Mary Mead though but she had to have been born in the 1620s.
Tomorrow I will continue looking at the Mead material and type some of it up to send to the research group. I also need to make a plan for completing my study of all the material that I brought back from Salt Lake City. It is now one year since we were there. The opportunity to go again next year has arisen and I want to be ready.
I found that Sarah Guernsey has several possible sets of parents on World Connect. I also found a will at Albany for a Peter Garnsey where he mentions the heirs of Jonathan Mead (1812). This could be Jonathan Mead married to Sarah Guernsey and these heirs would be Jehiel (died of wounds in the Revolution)'s descendants, Jonathan (the Cooper III) and to the best of our knowledge Jonathan Kipp is living with him at this date as he doesn't arrive in Canada until 1819 or 1820 - his descendants, Nathaniel Mead (married 1 Hannah Lamb and 2 Martha Quimby)'s descendants and Nathaniel is still living in 1812, and Hannah married to Stephen Atwater and she is still alive (died in 1835) and Titus who died from wounds in the revolution in 1785 (he left no known descendants). Ordering his will could be very interesting as it may provide more details on Jonathan. Jonathan Mead and Sarah Guernsey were still alive on the 1790 census and likely living with Nathaniel their son at Northeast Town. That was one rather interesting find but a search of the Gurnsey, Garnsey family books did not reveal any further information.
I shall construct a couple of *.pdf documents of information that I gleaned from a couple of journals to make it more readable. They should help with looking at the 18th century Dutchess County documents in order to determine if we should order a copy as they are all held on microfilm at Salt Lake City.
I did some searching online and found that the ancestors of Ruth Hardey have been a popular post to World Connect. Whether they have all taken from each other or several have arrived at the names individually is difficult to tell. A couple have sources so will check those out next time we are at a repository that includes the information mentioned. Ruth Hardey's mother is said to be Ann Husted. Her brother Angell Husted married Mary Mead according to our Mead Research Group. No parentage for Mary Mead though but she had to have been born in the 1620s.
Tomorrow I will continue looking at the Mead material and type some of it up to send to the research group. I also need to make a plan for completing my study of all the material that I brought back from Salt Lake City. It is now one year since we were there. The opportunity to go again next year has arisen and I want to be ready.
Saturday, November 7, 2009
Research at Albany
I have meant to post all week but the days flew by as we were researching at Albany New York. We were on a conference with the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society working at the New York State Library and Archives. This was totally my husband's families since I do not have any American ancestry although two of my grandmother's sisters married American citizens and their children are all American. They are in the American Air Force (at least until they retired) and their descendants have continued the tradition of US Air Force. I haven't seen any of them since the mid 1970s. Nor have I corresponded with them. I should really and perhaps they will become interested in our mutual genealogy and write to me.
I wanted to review the Renssylaerwyck Manor Papers for the time period from 1790 to early 1800. I had looked at the East Manor portion about 5 years ago and noted the members of the Mead family that were there but hadn't done the West Manor portion where Rennslaerville is located. I did that this time and found a number of Mead leases but no lease for Isaac Kipp. This is actually good news because Isaac and his family were on the 1800 census at Rensslaerville in the Manor (West portion) and on the 1790 census at Northeast Town, Dutchess County. We did not have a clear picture of when he and his family made the move from Northeast Town to Blenheim Township where he is known to have arrived in October 1800. Not finding him at the Manor was a bonus. They had five small children but no baptisms for them yet. We have a marriage date and birth dates for Isaac and his wife but no definite location. Eventually we may be able to unravel this family.
Tomorrow I am going to start a length of lace for my new dress. I think I will like that better around the empire waistline.
I wanted to review the Renssylaerwyck Manor Papers for the time period from 1790 to early 1800. I had looked at the East Manor portion about 5 years ago and noted the members of the Mead family that were there but hadn't done the West Manor portion where Rennslaerville is located. I did that this time and found a number of Mead leases but no lease for Isaac Kipp. This is actually good news because Isaac and his family were on the 1800 census at Rensslaerville in the Manor (West portion) and on the 1790 census at Northeast Town, Dutchess County. We did not have a clear picture of when he and his family made the move from Northeast Town to Blenheim Township where he is known to have arrived in October 1800. Not finding him at the Manor was a bonus. They had five small children but no baptisms for them yet. We have a marriage date and birth dates for Isaac and his wife but no definite location. Eventually we may be able to unravel this family.
Tomorrow I am going to start a length of lace for my new dress. I think I will like that better around the empire waistline.
Tuesday, November 3, 2009
Dress
I finished the sewing on my dress except for hemming but I want the dress to hang for a couple of weeks before I hem it. I also need to add the trim that my daughter would like me to have on it. I am tempted towards a nice piece of lace around the empire waistline. It could hang down as much as three inches. I shall check out the lace to see what I can find. Hand stitching the zipper was a good plan as it went in very smoothly. The panne velvet is actually quite nice to sew with so long as you baste all the seams before you sew them. I think it might creep even with my new sewing machine which has stretch stitch if you do not.
Continued looking at our son in law to be's French Canadian ancestors and filled in one-quarter of his dad's line now. Just need to do the rest of that before the wedding. We were going to have the chart on a table for people to look at (and add changes if there are any hopefully). It is only an eight generation chart and will be complete likely for his lines, Ed is missing 7 names at the eighth generation but perhaps we may yet find them in the next two months. I am missing three names (the adopted family of my grandmother). I do have her natural family but tend to put down her adopted family when it is displayed (unless I am talking genetic origin) because they are the people that she knew, grew up with and corresponded with as an adult when she came to Canada with her husband and my father. One's adopted family is really one's family I think.
Once the dust settles literally around here I want to get back to transcriptions. We have completed housecleaning in the living areas of the house and now need to do the sleeping areas (which are full of books!). We hope to get back to that now. The yard work is more or less done with the last 12 yard bags of leaves taken away by the municipal services yesterday. The garden still has some beets to turn into pickled beets and parsley for Oscar the grandchild bunny. My husband is quite attached to Oscar and always spends time with him when we visit.
Continued looking at our son in law to be's French Canadian ancestors and filled in one-quarter of his dad's line now. Just need to do the rest of that before the wedding. We were going to have the chart on a table for people to look at (and add changes if there are any hopefully). It is only an eight generation chart and will be complete likely for his lines, Ed is missing 7 names at the eighth generation but perhaps we may yet find them in the next two months. I am missing three names (the adopted family of my grandmother). I do have her natural family but tend to put down her adopted family when it is displayed (unless I am talking genetic origin) because they are the people that she knew, grew up with and corresponded with as an adult when she came to Canada with her husband and my father. One's adopted family is really one's family I think.
Once the dust settles literally around here I want to get back to transcriptions. We have completed housecleaning in the living areas of the house and now need to do the sleeping areas (which are full of books!). We hope to get back to that now. The yard work is more or less done with the last 12 yard bags of leaves taken away by the municipal services yesterday. The garden still has some beets to turn into pickled beets and parsley for Oscar the grandchild bunny. My husband is quite attached to Oscar and always spends time with him when we visit.
Sunday, November 1, 2009
Hallowe'en and sewing
Hallowe'en proved to be very very quiet here with just ten children - I handed out double which proved to have been a wise idea since it did deplete the box of candy somewhat. I think there are still about 40 pieces to use up. I wonder if they freeze!
Back to sewing today and a barbeque later this afternoon with everyone over. The dogs love to run in the backyard.
I want to get the dress finished except perhaps for hemming this weekend. Then I can work on the cape and complete it by the middle of the month. That way it can hang for the month and I can steam it a few times after the hot shower is run. Do I like it? I like it better than anything that I tried on while I was looking for a wedding outfit. I would probably still have liked the suit better but this is a party with lots of party dresses and the pictures with Ed in a tuxedo should be very nice. Will I ever wear it again? Well it doesn't actually matter because it didn't cost me that much to make it. I could wear it though as it is quite plain and would lend itself to a night out dancing.
Monday morning and I didn't post my blog yesterday. I need to sew the lining for the dress today and hang it in and then do all the hand stitching except for hemming. I will let it hang for a couple of weeks before I hem it. My daughter wants me to trim the dress with ribbon around the empire waist and a small buckle for trim. I will purchase those items soon and then just the cape to decide on. Likely I will wear a shawl since a shawl made in the material might just be too much grey velvet!
Back to sewing today and a barbeque later this afternoon with everyone over. The dogs love to run in the backyard.
I want to get the dress finished except perhaps for hemming this weekend. Then I can work on the cape and complete it by the middle of the month. That way it can hang for the month and I can steam it a few times after the hot shower is run. Do I like it? I like it better than anything that I tried on while I was looking for a wedding outfit. I would probably still have liked the suit better but this is a party with lots of party dresses and the pictures with Ed in a tuxedo should be very nice. Will I ever wear it again? Well it doesn't actually matter because it didn't cost me that much to make it. I could wear it though as it is quite plain and would lend itself to a night out dancing.
Monday morning and I didn't post my blog yesterday. I need to sew the lining for the dress today and hang it in and then do all the hand stitching except for hemming. I will let it hang for a couple of weeks before I hem it. My daughter wants me to trim the dress with ribbon around the empire waist and a small buckle for trim. I will purchase those items soon and then just the cape to decide on. Likely I will wear a shawl since a shawl made in the material might just be too much grey velvet!
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