Sunday, June 27, 2010

Find My Past Free days

I made good use of the four Find My Past free days. I subscribe to Find My Past but did not subscribe to the 1911 census. I hadn't really thought I would use it a great deal. However, I spent all of the free time on the 1911 census and have now collected all the Siderfin entries and quite a few Pincombe entries for my two one name studies. I also spent time that I was going to put in when we go to England later this year on my families trying to sort out my Taylor line (my maternal grandmother's mother) at Birmingham and collecting the census information for my paternal grandfather's siblings, my paternal grandmother's half-siblings and my great grandparents information as a number of them were still alive for the 1911 census.

Thank you to Find My Past for making this information available. I had planned on spending some time on the census at Kew but will now concentrate on wills. That will be the method by which I sort out the Blake families of the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries. My line seems correct but a little more support for the link from William (baptized 1615 at Andover to John baptized 1649 at Andover to Thomas baptized 1685 at Andover would be great. A little family lore plus the parish registers has been my source thus far but a little more is always appreciated.

On our first day of arrival in England we are thinking of taking a bus tour where we could sleep for a bit until we arrive at our destination, we could have our luggage on the bus as well and then sleep a bit again as we move on to our next destination. That way we would not waste our first day in London sleeping. I had thought about booking a room for the evening before we arrive so that we could go and sleep for a bit there but this other idea seems quite reasonable as well and we are investigating it. The last time we went I slept on the train that we took from Waterloo Station to Dorchester Dorset and that was quite reasonable and left me fortified to attend a family dinner that night!

Probably we will go to Kew on a Tuesday and I shall spend my time looking at the wills for the Blake family - there are about 200 of them that interest me. I already own about 150 wills that I have purchased for my many family lines in England but to purchase 200 Blake without knowing any relationship seems like a poor idea since I am retired and my genealogy money only stretches so far.

Plans are slowly getting put together for our six full days in London before our tour begins. We will travel to the European continent this time and travel through Belgium to Germany and then to Switzerland on to Austria and then into Italy and up to France. I have been to Italy before spending a week in Rome where we stayed just about 0.5 km from the Vatican. What an excellent week we had (my eldest daughter and I) and we saw a great deal of Rome and the Vatican.

After collecting the Siderfin family from the 1911 census I was searching the web and discovered that the book by Sanders on the Siderfin family is now available on Google books. I was reading through the pages and noted that the Question family was mentioned and it is awhile since I had read the book and in that time period I discovered (because of an individual reading my blog and sending me a will) that Elizabeth Question married Robert Siderfin. I then put together the information from the book and Mary Coffin married to Quirk were the parents of Mary Quirke married to Alice Quirke married to John Question (brother of Elizabeth above), Walter Siderfin, and Isott Quirke married to John Quirke (cousin perhaps). There were a number of land transfers mentioning Mary Quirke and her daughters and I have now put this family together in my Legacy Chart. I had earlier noted the relationship between Mary Quirk and that she married John Question but I had not linked her to my new Question family material. It helps to understand all of these families when you see the linkages. Eventually it would be nice to discover all of the wives maiden names that married into the Siderfin family. Interestingly Jone Question (aunt to Elizabeth Question) married Nicholas Blake who was a son of Humphrey Blake. This Humphrey Blake is reputed to be descended from the Blake family at Calne (my Blake line descends from this Calne Blake family). A small world after all and I had not thought to find my parents had any common ancestry and certainly this is a collateral match only.

Blake-Hinxman-Beale

I continued looking at the will transcription that I received from a Hinxman researcher and added Thomas Hinxman as a brother to Joseph Hinxman and these two are sons of Joseph Hinxman and Christian . Since the will lists Christian Hinxman as mother Hinxman it is not possible to see if this is Christian from this will. I agree with the spelling of the name Poppinioy that is used by the IGI rather than this transcription of Poppiniay. The only family with this surname is John Poppinioy and his wife's name is not listed on the baptisms. However, Dorothy in her will has mentioned her mother Anne Poppinioy. There are six baptisms on the IGI for this family in this time period.

1. AMY POPINIOY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 AUG 1643 Andover, Hampshire, England
2. LIDDIA POPINIOY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 APR 1667 Andover, Hampshire, England
3. POPINIOY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 APR 1654 Andover, Hampshire, England
4. GEORGE POPINIOY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 APR 1666 Andover, Hampshire, England
5. JACOB POPINIOY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 OCT 1664 Andover, Hampshire, England
6. WILLIAM POPINIOY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 NOV 1663 Andover, Hampshire, England

Although the 1654 does have "sonne" in the list there isn't a name given in the original register. 27 Aug 1655 there is another child baptized to John Popinioy and again no name is given. This would fit the birth/baptism of Dorothy who was 22 when she died in 1677. This baptism is recorded as Popinjoy on the IGI and again a male. It is difficult to say as it is listed under Joseph son to Joseph Turner without any mention of name or sex (........ to Joseph Popinioy 27 under the August 55 heading). A baptism on 27 Oct 1656 was located for Abigalle daughter to John Philpott alias Popinioy. Since the name Popinioy disappears after this time it would appear that the name Philpott is the name taken and a review of the register in the IGI reveals:

1. MARY PHILPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAR 1624 Andover, Hampshire, England
2. MARY PHILPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 AUG 1657 Andover, Hampshire, England
3. DORATHY PHILPOT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 MAR 1655 Andover, Hampshire, England
4. ABBIGALE PHILLPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 OCT 1656 Andover, Hampshire, England
5. GORGE PHILLPOT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 JUL 1671 Andover, Hampshire, England
6. PHILLPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 FEB 1660 Andover, Hampshire, England
7. JOHN PHILLPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 OCT 1627 Andover, Hampshire, England
8. NICHOLAS PHILPOT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 FEB 1653 Andover, Hampshire, England
9. BENIAMEN PHILPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 JUL 1654 Andover, Hampshire, England
10. JOHN PHILPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 JAN 1663 Andover, Hampshire, England
11. THOMAS PHILPOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 APR 1659 Andover, Hampshire, England

The Dorothy mentioned though is a daughter of Alexander Philpott and John Popinioy is baptizing another child at this same time.

There is a John Philpott baptized 9 Oct 1627 and the son of Richard. Mary baptized 1624 is a daughter of Richard.

Mary baptized 1657 is a daughter of Alexander. George baptized 1671 is a son of George. Benjamin is a son of Alexander.

All of the other children are baptized as the children of John Philpott.

By 1667 when the will was written Dorothy only mentions her brothers William and Joseph Poppinioy (baptized 1663 and 1656 respectively). She mentions a number of sisters and the register lists: Amy baptized 1643 and Abigalle baptized 1656 as her sisters.

I want to look at the Beale entries but that will have to wait until I transcribe the next portion of the Andover Register. Elizabeth Blake (older sister to Richard my 9x great grandfather) married Peter Beale and they had eight children which included sons: William, Peter, Edwardus, Jethro and Francis. The Beale children mentioned in this will would be their grandchildren likely. She mentions her cousin Anne Beale, her cousin John Beale of St Mary Bourne, Mary Beale and Alice Beale both cousins. My Beale family lived at Priors Dean, Roughmere, Portsmouth and Farington so could be totally unrelated to this grouping. A check of the Visitations for the Beale family would also be helpful and I shall do that soon.

Mary Blake sister is a mystery. Perhaps Thomas and Joseph Hinxman had a sister Mary. I do not have any sisters for this family of Joseph and Christian Hinxman. I would like to solve the Mary Blake mystery.

Thursday, June 24, 2010

New discoveries

Again it has been just over the month since I last posted to my blog. In the past month we have been really busy with a trip down to New York State to do a dry run of the trip we are doing in the Fall with a busload of people wanting to look at the Palatine and Scot sites in the Mohawk/Schorarie Valleys. This requires a fair amount of preparation as well as a dry run to look at the highways and make sure there aren't any major changes. As well we check out the restaurants that we are going to use and I always end up wasting half of my dinner as each of us tries the different ones we are going to order. It is just too much food in one day!

As well we attended the 300th anniversary of Palatines to America celebrated at the Palatine Conference which was held at Fishkill this year. I decided not to attend as a participant since I do not have any Palatine/American ancestry.

I haven't done a lot of genealogy in the last few months; time just hasn't been available as I have been nursing my strained knee and keeping it active which isn't compatible with sitting at a computer for the most part.

However, an email yesterday brought me back to look at a few items. It was a copy of a will by Dorothy Hinxman dated 1677. Late last year I had started the transcription but ran out of time. Seeing the transcription was most interesting as she mentions the many families that married into the Hinxman and Blake families. It was possible using the will and the Visitations to find the ancestry of this young woman. She was only 22 years old when she was buried and her husband had been buried a year earlier they had been married just two years when he died. They had one young son Thomas born in 1765.

She mentions her parents and their names were [John] Popinioy and Ann . Her brothers William and Joseph. She referred to her husbands' siblings as brothers and sisters as well (including their wives/husbands). I found a likely baptism for Dorothy at Andover in 1655 (buried in 1677 at 22 years of age). Her eldest sister baptized at Andover was in 1643 (Amy) and her brothers William and Jacob (?) were baptized in 1664 and 1665 with George being baptized in 1663 but not mentioned. Possibly John married twice although it was not unusual to have children over a 20 years + period. These records from the IGI.

Interestingly there was a John Povensay buried near Dorothy in 1678 of 54 years. This transcription from the Visitations. Popinioy brings up 10 records on the IGI and Povensay does not reveal any records on the IGI.

Other surnames in the will include: Thomas Hinxman (husband now deceased), Thomas Hinxman (son), Richard Miles (Bishops Waltham - cousin), Mary Myles (servant to Uncle Noice of Totnam), Joseph Portsmoth (Husborne - cousin), John Portsmoth (Husborne - cousin), Anne Beale (cousin), John Beale (St Mary Bourne - cousin), Mary Beale and Alice Beale (both cousins), Christian Noice (Totnam - cousin), Walter Button (uncle), Mr. Samuel Sprint (Upper Clatford), Mr. Prikie (sp) (Longstock), (father) Poppiniay), (mother) Hinxman, Mr. Isaac Chansey (Easten Farm), Joseph Hinxman (brother), Martha Hinxman (sister (wife to Joseph)), Bette Hinxman (sister), Wimbleton (sister), Brice (sister), Sara Hill (sister), Maere Blake (sister), Stoniforde (sister), Whaley (sister), Joseph Poppiniay (brother), William Poppiniay (brother), Anne Poppiniay (mother), Mr. Joseph Hinxman (father and overseer), William Hinxman (uncle), Walter Hinxman (uncle), Nathaniel Brice (brother).

The Hinxman members are all inlaws. Nathaniel Brice is an inlaw and her sister is Popiniay (married to Nathaniel), The Beale family is interesting as they are related to the Blake family earlier, Mary Blake is certainly a mystery - is she Mary Popiniay married to a Blake? An interesting puzzle to solve.