Blake Newsletter
Table of Contents
1. Blake Y-DNA looking at the I-M253 grouping
1. Blake Y-DNA; reviewing group B - EnglishAncestry (1)
The deep ancestry on the I-M253 haplogroup in the Blake yDNA study (1) places this group in the Scandinavian Peninsula and historically where the Vikings lived but we await detailed testing and affirmation in a more scholarly manner. Colonization by the Vikings occurred in northern England, western Scotland, Ireland, Iceland, north western France, Denmark, north eastern Germany and north western Poland. (2)
Family lore for some of the members of this group takes them back to the Calne, Wiltshire Blake family. The members of this group could be sharing common ancestry in the past thousand years but there is still insufficient data (more testers are needed). The family lore on the Calne Blake family has the belief that Admiral Robert Blake was descendant of the Calne Blake family.
A Blake Pedigree Chart held at the Swindon and Wiltshire Record Office is headed by a Richard Blake/Blaake/Blague and as one traces his line down the marriage of Robert Blake and Avis Wallop is discovered with Robert being a 2x great grandson of Richard Blake. Further down on the chart there is a line which is said to lead to Admiral Robert Blake. (3)
As mentioned earlier in Volume 2 Issue 2 of the Blake Newsletter, Richard le Blak of Rouen, Normandy applied for a market license to the English court.(4) Rouen is located in that part of France colonized by the “Vikings” and it was the Normans (of Normandy) who came to England in 1066 and established their leader as the King of England – namely King William the Conqueror or King William the first.(5) A Richard le Blake was found in the Berkshire/Wiltshire area in the late 1200s/ early 1300s on the Pipe Rolls of the Bishopric of Winchester 1301-1302.(6)
Place Surname Forename Date
Wargrave Blak John 1301-2
Wargrave Blak, la Alice 1301-2 (daughter of Richard le Blak)
Wargrave Blak, le Richard 1301-2
Waltham St Lawrence Blak Hamo 1301-2
Waltham St Lawrence Blak Walter 1301-2 (son of Hamo Blak)
This coincides very nicely with Richard Blake in the Pedigree Chart mentioned above for the Blake family at Calne as Wargrave is a hundred in Berkshire. Are they one and the same person?; a haplogroup of I-M253 for Richard Blake would be quite reasonable given his Norman heritage.
The Pedigree Chart does not imply a location for Richard Blake at the head of the family chart.
(1) https://www.familytreedna.com/public/blake?iframe=yresults, viewed 28th September 2016
(2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253, viewed 28th of September 2016
(3) Wiltshire and Swindon Record Office, 343/1MS – Pedigree of Blake from early 14th century to 1690 with additions to 1786. Fine illuminated document, with family crest, on parchment roll
(4) Calendar of Patent Rolls, 2 Edward 1, Volume 1, pages 51-52, 30 May 1274 Westminster
(5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England, viewed 28th of September 2016
(6) The Pipe Rolls of the Bishopric of Winchester 1301 - 2 (Hampshire Record Series Volume 14) (ISBN: 1859751083 / 1-85975-108-3)
Elizabeth Kipp, kippeeb@rogers.com
Member #4600: Guild of one name studies -
Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/
This Blog will talk about researching my English ancestors from Canada but also the ancestors of our son in law whose families stretch back far into Colonial French Canada. My one name study of Blake and of Pincombe also dominate my blog these days.
Wednesday, September 28, 2016
Wednesday, September 7, 2016
Pincombe-Pinkham Newsletter, Volume 1, Issue 4
Pincombe-Pinkham
Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 4
Table
of Contents
1.
Pincombe Charts, original One-Name Study
at the Guild of One-Name Studies
2.
Will of Abraham Pincombe, Stoke Damerel,
Devon
3.
Autosomal DNA study
1.
Pincombe Charts, original One-Name Study
at the Guild of One-Name Studies
As mentioned in the last issue of the
Pincombe-Pinkham Newsletter, I will continue to publish one chart from the
original study by Dr Richard Pinkham and Galen Pinkham. In total there are 14
charts. I am slowly entering these charts into Legacy and adding in data from
the original parish registers. I do not always agree with these charts but feel
that this is an opportunity to share the charts with the members of this study
and I will perhaps get some feedback on the different charts helping me to
revise them. The chart in this issue is labelled North and South Molton. This
particular chart includes the known Pincombe family found on the Visitation of
Devon 1620. The name of the individual at the top of this Visitation is listed
solely as (unknown) Pyncombe and he is said to have come to North Molton with
Lord de la Zouch around the beginning of the reign of King Henry VII (22 Aug
1485 – 21 Apr 1509). It is known that John la Zouche, 7th Baron
Zouche, 8th Baron St Maur was with Richard III at the Battle of
Bosworth and for that he suffered attainder and forfeiture of much of his
property. In the history of John Baron Zouche there is no mention of his being
at North Molton but given the remote nature of North Devon possibly he came
there with his loyal followers immediately after the Battle of Bosworth. He was
pardoned in 1486 and perhaps returned then to the estates he was permitted to
retain at that time. Definitely though the Pincombe family at North Molton does
appear there from this point onward.
Again I do have some problems with this chart
although I am in agreement with Thomas Pyncombe being the son of (unknown)
Pyncombe and I believe that Johane Pencombe whose will was transcribed in
Volume 1, Issue 2 was his wife. Their children were well documented by her and
included William Pyncombe who married Emotte Snowe and they lived at East
Buckland. Their son Richard is listed on this chart but no family has been
attributed to him. The will of William Pyncombe (married to Emotte Snowe) does
provide the linking of this Richard to the Richard Pincombe found at Bishops
Nympton and my ancestor. However, I have decided to share these charts with the
members of the group and welcome any feedback.
2.
Will of Abraham Pincombe, Stoke Damerel,
Devon
Source:
Inland Revenue Wills - p 882
Place:
Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Dated:
26 Apr 1830 (probated 5 Dec 1831)
Condition:
photocopy, light, modern English writing
1 This is
the last Will and Testament of me Abraham Pincombe
2 of the
parish of Stoke Damerel in the County of Devon Gentleman made
3 the
twenty sixth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight
4 hundred
and thirty First I desire and my Will is that my body be decently interred
5 at the
discretion of my Executors hereinafter named I give unto my nephew Joseph
6 Pincombe
the sum of Nineteen Guineas of lawful money current in Great
7 Britain
to be paid to him within three months after my decease I give unto Elisabeth
8 Dennis
the wife of John Dennis of Northlew in the said County the sum of ten
9 pounds
of like lawful money to be paid to her within three months after my
10 decease I
give unto Abraham Pincombe William Pincombe Thomas Pincombe
11 and
Stephen Pincombe sons of my brother Thomas Pincombe of Northlew aforesaid
12 the sum
of two pounds each of like lawful money to be paid as aforesaid I give
13 unto my
said brother Thomas Pincombe an annuity or yearly sum of five
14 pounds to
be paid to him in half yearly payments the first payment thereof
15 to be
made within three months after my decease and the same to continue
16 to be
paid him for and during the term of his natural life All the rest residue
17 and
remainder of my goods and chattels money and securities for many household
18 and other
estate and effects whatsoever which I may have or possess at the
19 time of
my decease (subject nevertheless to the payment of my just debts
20 legacies
funeral expences and all other incidental expenses for securing and
21 further
execution of this my Will and also to the payment of the said
22 Annuity
in manner aforesaid) I give and devise the same and every
23 part
thereof unto Thomas Curtis of Devonport in the said County Shipwright
24 and Agnes
his wife to and for their own use and benefit and to be disposed of as
25 he she or
they shall jointly or severally in their lifetime consider most necessary
26 and
needful so as the same be used for and towards the benefit support and
27 maintenance
of themselves and each of their children as may for the time being
28 most need
the same and shall dispose of the same or
whatsoever shall remain
29 though at
the time of the death of the survivor of them the said Thomas
30 Curtis
and Agnes his wife by any instrument in writing under the hand
31 and seal
of such survivor And I do hereby nominate constitute and
32 appoint
the said Thomas Curtis and Agnes his wife joint Executor and Executrix
33 hereby
revoking all former Wills by me at any time heretofore made do confirm this to
be my last Will and Testament
34 of this
my last Will and Testament ^ to which I have set my hand and seal the
35 day and
year first above written
36 Abraham
Pincombe [signed] [sealed]
37 Signed
Sealed Published and Declared by the above named Testator as said
38 At his
request in his presence and in
39 [Probate]
40 No. 20 W
E L______
41 For the
Stamp Office
42 Copy of
the Will of
43 Abraham
Pincombe
44 Late of
Stoke Damerel Devon
45 Gentleman
dece[ase]d
46 Executor
and Executrix
47 Thomas
Curtis of Stoke Damerel
48 Aforesaid
Shipwright and Agnes
49 Curtis
his wife
50 Proved in
the Registry of the
51 Archdeacon's
Court of Totnes
52 5
December 1831
53 Effects
were under £200
54 _______
East Deanery of the
55 N 4 R_X
_R 18 31
56 FUL 788
57 Within is
contained a true copy of the original
58 Will of
Abraham Pincombe Devon Gentleman
59 Dece[ase]d
the same having been carefully examined by us
60 John Wm
Hodges [signed]
61 Nicholas
Gidley [signed]
62 ____ to
Walter Ridcourt Deputy Re[gi]s[tra]r of the
63 Archdeacon's
Court of Totnes
64 FORMS of
AFFIDAVITS to be registered and ______ from Persons
65 Applying
for Probates of Wills, and Letters of Administration, of the estate of
66 The
Personal Estates and Effects of the deceased
67 No. 1.
FOR EXECUTORS
68 Thomas
Curtis of Stoke Damerel of the
69 County of
Devon Shipwright and Agnes
70 Curtis
his wife the Executor and
71 Executrix
named in the last Will and Testament
72 (A) of
Abraham Pincombe, late of Stoke
73 Damerel
aforesaid Gentleman
74 Who died
on the
75 26th day
of November 1831 (b) make Oath
76 And say
that (c) they have made diligent
77 search
and due enquiry after, and in respect of the Personal
78 Estate
and Effects of the said Deceased, in order
79 to
ascertain the full Amount and Value thereof; and that
80 to the
best of their Knowledge, Information, and Belief,
81 the whole
of the Goods, Chattels, and Credits, of which
82 the said
Deceased died possessed within the (D) Arch-
83 Deaconry
of Totnes, in the Province of Canterbury,
84 (exclusive
of what the Deceased may have been possess
85 -ed of or
intitled to as a Trustee for any other Person,
86 or
Persons and not beneficially. (A) but including the Lease-
87 hold
Estates for Years of the Deceased, whether abso-
88 lute or
determinable on Lives, and without deducting
89 any Thing
on Account of the Debts due and owing from
90 the
Deceased) are under the Value of two hundred
91 Pounds
and these Deponents further (E) say
92 That the
said Deceased had (f) no Personal Estate and
93 Effects
at the time of his decease within the Province
94 Of York
to which they these Deponent (G) need to
95 administer
96 SWORN on
the fifth day of December 1831 before me
97 J.
Cerning Suro[gate]
98 Thomas
Curtis [signed]
99 Agnes
Curtis [signed]
3. Autosomal DNA Study
The Pincombe Autosomal Study now includes twelve
individuals and all of them are descendant of Robert Pincombe and Elizabeth
Rowcliffe. They were married 7 Jun 1803 at Bishops Nympton, Devon. In total there
is sharing of common DNA by different members on Chromosomes 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20. The ideal state is that you would be sharing
different sections of chromosomes with different cousins permitting you to
construct a personal chromosome chart showing sections of chromosomes inherited
from different ancestors. These twelve individuals are on three different sites
and ideally to make use of these results you need to be on GedMatch although FT
DNA and 23 and Me do provide a chromosome browser permitting that match to be
studied within the particular site.
Any material which you may wish to submit for the
newsletter can be sent to:
Elizabeth Kipp (Editor)
kippeeb@rogers.com
Tuesday, September 6, 2016
50th Wedding Anniversary Tour of the British Isles
The Three Tuns, London, UK |
Meal at the Three Tuns, London, UK |
Edward in Hyde Park, London, UK |
Back at the hotel by 18 00 hours and then off to the same pub for dinner which we enjoyed just as much as the day before. I guess we could have found another pub as there are plenty in this area but we had enjoyed our first night there and decided to repeat it! I had macaroni and cheese and Ed had lamb shank.
The Three Tuns, London, UK |
Insight Coach, London, UK |
Day One (August 12) we were on the coach at 08 15 hours and on our way to our first stop which was Oxford. This first portion of the trip we did in 2008 but it is always nice to see Oxford and we were happy to do that. We parked once again by the Martyr's Memorial (this large stone monument remembers Thomas Cranmer, Nicholas Ridley and Hugh Latimer (three Anglican bishops burned at the stake by Queen Mary). Our guided tour took us back into the colleges and the Sheldonian Theatre. We then looked around in a slightly different way this time walking up and down the various streets as the last time we had concentrated on the different colleges that comprise the University of Oxford. It was here that J K Rowlings developed and wrote her Harry Potter series and there were a number of shops devoted to Harry Potter in terms of items to purchase. We had lunch in the Market and that always gives opportunites to try something new and different.
Bridge on the campus of Oxford University, England |
Anne Hathway's home, Shottery, England |
Clinton Tower (I am coming down the stairs with the white jacket on), York, England |
Edward at Grasmere, England |
Military Tattoo, Edinburgh, Scotland |
St Andrews, Scotland |
Day Six (August 17) and we were up early and had a nice walk before breakfast. Inverness is a small city and fairly quiet. We were off for a boat trip the Jacobite Rebel on Loch Ness at 08 30 hours for about one hour. A rather pleasant trip and the views were rather interesting. We had had a boat trip on Loch Ness in 2008 but on another part. Back on the coach and we were headed to Wick and this would be a mostly driving day as the road is now just two lanes and fairly busy. We always stopped every two hours or less for a break and the rides were quite pleasant. This was also a part of Scotland that we had not yet seen. In 2008 there was still snow on the high mountains in Scotland and it was cold but this time the mountains were bathed in heather and it was taking on a reddish hue. It was quite beautiful. We stopped for lunch and then on to the Pulteney Wiskey company where we had a tour and whiskey tasting. Our tour was about one hour and was quite interesting. I, like Ed, had taken Chemistry in my undergraduate days (Ed did his PhD in Chemistry) so the whole process is well known to me. However, we have never tried to make whiskey in all of these years! The whiskey was strong for me but the whiskey liqueur was most pleasant. We then went on to Wick not far away and we had chosen to do the optional tour to Castle Mey which had belonged to Queen Elizabeth (wife of King George VI) and best known as the Queen Mother all of these years. The Castle is smaller than some of the others but has a beautiful spot overlooking the North Sea. Her touch is everywhere in the Castle and it is beautifully preserved to the mid 1950s. One can imagine Charles, Prince of Wales, enjoying his boyhood there. He still comes apparently for ten days in May in her memory. The gardens attached to this castle were beautiful. Amazing that so many plants can grow this far north. The Gulf Stream does give an interesting climate to the British Isles. Back to the hotel and dinner and I had salmon which was excellent. We had a pleasant walk and than off to bed as we needed to be up early for our trip to the Orkney Islands.
Castle Mey, Scotland |
Skara Brae, The Orkneys |
Day Eight (August 19) and we left Wick (our second two night stop) at 08 15 hours but we had had a chance to have a walk first. We said goodbye to the North Sea. Perhaps one of these days we will do our cruise from Norway to Russia. It looked like rain and we had several storms between Wick and Skye where we were headed. The Highlands have a lot of variety we discovered as we moved along; the rounded hills give way to mountains that are high and craggy. There are huge vistas with deep valleys. There were a number of camera stops along the way. At Laing Ed and I had tea and scones around 10 30 hours. This is a pleasant small village and the rain lifted just at this time. The road was single lane in this section and there were laybys for passing. The traffic was surprisingly heavy. One thinks of this area as being rather isolated but then there aren't too many roads either. Back in the coach and on to our lunch stop at Ullapool. A sleepy fishing village that was again surprisingly large. There is a large summer population probably as there are a lot of shops. We spent a good two hours there which included our lunch stop where I had sweet potato soup and bread. I ate a lot of soup and bread on our trip. That is my favourite lunch on vacation. We arrived at the Isle of Skye at 15 15 hours and it was raining fairly heavily. The last time we had had a perfect sunny day on the tour of Skye and could see the Hebrides but this time everything was pretty shrouded in rain and Ed could just barely get a good picture of the Old Man of Stor. Lucky that we had already been there but we often think it is nice to do these trips at two different seasons. The hotel was very neat and I enjoyed my dinner at 19 30 hours - a little later tonight.
Old Man of Storr, Isle of Skye, Scotland |
Edward and Elizabeth, Loch Lomond, Scotland |
Giant's Causeway, Northern Ireland |
Ben Bulbenn, Ireland |
Knappogue, Ireland |
St Mary's Well, Killarney, Ireland |
Edward at Waterville, Ireland |
Day Fifteen (August 26) and we were at breakfast by 06 45 hours. This was our day to go to Blarney Castle and see/kiss the Blarney Stone. When my father came to Canada with his mother in 1913 (his father was already in Canada having come earlier in the year to set up house) they stopped at Cork and probably because he had come second class he was taken to see and kiss the Blarney Stone. He always said that you had to hang upside down and it is a little like that but more like you are on your back and edge out to the Blarney Stone. But he was only nine years old and telling the story many many years later to his children! By my calculation he would have done this on the 26th of August 1913 and here I was 103 years later at Blarney Castle. There were cruise ships coming to Cork today we learned from our Tour Director so as soon as we were through the gate at the Castle we headed quickly towards Blarney Castle. Even at that we waited in the line for well over an hour before we were even on the Castle ramparts. There were 120 steps in the narrow turret tower to climb to get to the Blarney Stone. As soon as we were finished we headed back to the gift shop as we needed to be on the coach in time for us to get to our tour of Waterford Crystal at 14 00 hours. We were in time and looked around the show room. The tour was interesting and we bought a christmas decoration "A partridge in a pear tree" made of Waterford Crystal. We then went on to our hotel - Doolie and it was a nice hotel. We had a walking tour of Waterford by a local guide. He was interesting and very Irish. The Grey Friars Waterford was one of our stops and of course this is one of the oldest educational universities in Europe. The original monastery was partially demolished during the reign of Henry VIII of England. We ended at the Viking ship. Then on to a local pub for a drink - The Gingerman Bar. We stayed on and had lamb stew, salad and garlic toast. The hotel was closeby the pub and easily located by us on our return.
Edward and Elizabeth, The Gingerman Pub, Waterford, Ireland |
Taylors Three Rock, Dublin, Ireland |
Edward and Elizabeth, Geography Building Trinity College Dublin |
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales |
Lamb Tree, Craven Arms, England |
Tamar Bridge, Calstock, England |
St Mellion, England |
Stonehenge, England |
Labels:
British Isles,
England,
Insight Vacations,
Ireland,
Northern Ireland,
Orkney Islands,
Scotland,
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