Just remembering my fourth cousin George DeKay who first set me on this trek into genealogy. A trip to London, England in November 2001 was nudging me in that direction but George completed the nudge with the request in the winter of 2003 that I do a writeup on my Pincombe family. They were emigrants to Westminster Township, Middlesex County, Ontario and a history book for Westminster Township and Delaware Township was being produced (2 volumes) and George was Editor.
His method of recruiting was very like him. He told me quite directly that my cousin was willing to write up the family but he thought my grandfather owned a grocery store on Wharncliffe Road. That was actually my uncle William Edwin Pincombe and not John Routledge Pincombe my grandfather. Since it was going into a history book I decided that, in memory of my mother who had just died and was very interested in her Pincombe family, I would produce the profile for the history book.
Although my husband had been doing genealogy for more than 30 years at that time he had not done very much on England itself and so I decided to look more intently at the National Institute for Genealogical Studies and signed up for one methodology course. Two weeks into that course I signed up for the entire years of English Record Studies and then just a couple of months after that I signed up for the three years of English Record Studies and added in Canadian Records for three years.
The only items that I asked of George were one that he set up a meeting with my Pincombe cousins whom I no longer knew as we (my husband and I) had moved away from the area in the mid 1970s and trips back involved mostly visiting with our parents and siblings. George set the meeting up for the summer in 2004 and a great deal of scanning occurred of available images. We selected the images for the final article at that time. The article itself concentrated on the youngest son of the immigrant John Pincombe and his wife Elizabeth Rew - Richard in terms of pictures because his line remained in the Westminster Township area whereas my line had moved into the City of London after the death of my grandfather. My second item was that he arrange to borrow from my second half cousin the photograph albums owned by his mother my half-great aunt (half sister to my grandfather). George duly managed that as well working with our mutual cousin who had originally volunteered to do the Pincombe profile. The scanning of those three photograph albums took my husband and I most of one day but I discovered unknown pictures of my grandparents and mother that have been a treat to the family.
The profile was due in the summer of 2005 and I duly presented my effort to George which he accepted without revision. I had already passed it by all the cousins to see if they were in agreement with the written copy (and also all my siblings). It was published in the Fall of 2005 and probably still available for purchase unless all the copies have been sold.
George set me on a path that day. As I worked through my lessons I used my own family research to delve back into my family history. I really thought I knew my family history fairly well as my paternal grandfather liked to chat about his family (and he lived with us) and my maternal grandmother was closeby and I spent hours and hours with her going over items that she shared with me of her trip back to England in 1939. Now fifteen years later I continue to work away on my family tree as well as my one-name studies (my parents' surnames - Blake and Pincombe). Thank you George, not how I thought I would spend retirement that is for sure. My retirement was much more personal and involved watching many many movies, knitting and sewing. All of that has gone by the wayside as I avidly pursue genealogy and in particular genetic genealogy is of special interest to me.
Wednesday, January 31, 2018
Sunday, January 28, 2018
Pincombe-Pinkham - a singleton family?
As a child growing up my mother learned that there were several different Pincombe family lines. She did not think that they were related. During the 1840s and 1850s several distinct Pincombe families emigrated to Canada and lived in the London, Ontario area. They did not know if they were related and actually assumed that they were not. Now with the possibility of linking families with DNA I have been curious as to whether or not we can find that we do have a common ancestor.
The yDNA Pincombe study at FT DNA has found that there are a couple of distinct lines for Pincombe-Pinkham. The earlier researchers for the Pincombe-one-name-study had produced sixteen charts showing that the two names were used by similar family groups. For instance a Pincombe family at Barnstaple, Devon used the Pinkham spelling after they moved to London, UK. In another case a Pinkham family that emigrated to New Hampshire colony also showed the earlier Pincombe spelling and then later Pinkham.
The tester for my Pincombe line is a descendant of our mutual 3x great grandfather Robert Pincombe (married to Elizabeth Rowcliffe 7 Jun 1803 at Bishops Nympton, Devon). He is my third cousin once removed and my siblings and I match him as anticipated for a third cousin once removed (and better for some of my siblings). That gives us a baseline for the Pincombe family at Bishops Nympton from the latter part of the 1500s to the present. Going back one generation, the parents of Robert Pincombe were John Pincombe and Mary Charlie/Charley who married 8 Nov 1767 at Bishops Nympton. They had four sons and two daughters. A descendant of their son William has also tested his yDNA (fifth cousin to us) and he is a perfect match to my third cousin once removed thus moving back another generation the yDNA match.
My fourth cousin (daughter of the yDNA tester) also tested at Ancestry where there was a match with a descendant of Aaron Pincombe and Elizabeth Withicombe who married 24 May 1802 at St Giles in the Wood. I have not been able to find parents for this Aaron Pincombe but it is interesting that a descendant of this line matched my fourth cousin (but not myself). Unfortunately this kit has now disappeared at Ancestry.
Of interest, following back on my ancestral line takes me to William Pincombe who married Emotte Snow. This William died in 1602 and was living at East Buckland when he wrote his will which named his seven sons and two daughters. I have only been able to trace down a couple of these sons - Richard (fourth son) is my likely line. I do not know the names of the husbands for the two daughters thus far. Given the number of sons, the possibilities for descendants is quite large in the Pincombe line. I am slowly extracting all the early Pincombe entries.
Lately I have been in correspondence with a possible descendant of Aaron Pincombe and his wife Elizabeth Withicombe although he himself has only officially traced his line back to John Pincombe and Mary Thomas. I suspect this John Pincombe is a son of Aaron Pincombe and Elizabeth Withicombe.
I often wonder how much interest there is within the Pincombe family to pursue a DNA study. It is a large enough family to have a good sized yDNA study but this study grows very slowly.
The yDNA Pincombe study at FT DNA has found that there are a couple of distinct lines for Pincombe-Pinkham. The earlier researchers for the Pincombe-one-name-study had produced sixteen charts showing that the two names were used by similar family groups. For instance a Pincombe family at Barnstaple, Devon used the Pinkham spelling after they moved to London, UK. In another case a Pinkham family that emigrated to New Hampshire colony also showed the earlier Pincombe spelling and then later Pinkham.
The tester for my Pincombe line is a descendant of our mutual 3x great grandfather Robert Pincombe (married to Elizabeth Rowcliffe 7 Jun 1803 at Bishops Nympton, Devon). He is my third cousin once removed and my siblings and I match him as anticipated for a third cousin once removed (and better for some of my siblings). That gives us a baseline for the Pincombe family at Bishops Nympton from the latter part of the 1500s to the present. Going back one generation, the parents of Robert Pincombe were John Pincombe and Mary Charlie/Charley who married 8 Nov 1767 at Bishops Nympton. They had four sons and two daughters. A descendant of their son William has also tested his yDNA (fifth cousin to us) and he is a perfect match to my third cousin once removed thus moving back another generation the yDNA match.
My fourth cousin (daughter of the yDNA tester) also tested at Ancestry where there was a match with a descendant of Aaron Pincombe and Elizabeth Withicombe who married 24 May 1802 at St Giles in the Wood. I have not been able to find parents for this Aaron Pincombe but it is interesting that a descendant of this line matched my fourth cousin (but not myself). Unfortunately this kit has now disappeared at Ancestry.
Of interest, following back on my ancestral line takes me to William Pincombe who married Emotte Snow. This William died in 1602 and was living at East Buckland when he wrote his will which named his seven sons and two daughters. I have only been able to trace down a couple of these sons - Richard (fourth son) is my likely line. I do not know the names of the husbands for the two daughters thus far. Given the number of sons, the possibilities for descendants is quite large in the Pincombe line. I am slowly extracting all the early Pincombe entries.
Lately I have been in correspondence with a possible descendant of Aaron Pincombe and his wife Elizabeth Withicombe although he himself has only officially traced his line back to John Pincombe and Mary Thomas. I suspect this John Pincombe is a son of Aaron Pincombe and Elizabeth Withicombe.
I often wonder how much interest there is within the Pincombe family to pursue a DNA study. It is a large enough family to have a good sized yDNA study but this study grows very slowly.
Wednesday, January 17, 2018
Pile-ups on Chromosomes
One intriguing question that I was looking at last year was a set of pile-ups on chromosome X in 23 and Me looking at myself and my siblings there. I wrote away to one individual who had his results on Gedmatch and he wrote back to me and hence the resurgence of that thought not resolved at the time as I had moved on to something else. With the reply I started looking at and thinking about that pileup.
I am phasing my grandparents DNA and the X chromosome, which is actually easy to work with especially if you have two brothers and two sisters plus yourself tested. Putting together the actual scenario of what it would look like was easy. The hard part was assigning the blocks. The one X is, of course, entirely completely and intact from my paternal grandmother for myself and my sisters. We all inherit the same X as that is the only X which our Father has to pass on to us. He received this singleton X from his mother who received it from her father and mother. In spite of having quite a few matches with cousins I do not have an X chromosome match with a known cousin as my closest cousin to test is a third cousin. He didn't happen to match on the X chromosome because our match is on his father's line.
The person to whom I had written shared 25 centimorgans with us on the X chromosome and the pileup that I found varied between 16 centimorgans (I didn't record less) and 28 centimorgans. The problem is that only a couple of the individuals in the pileups share DNA with one of us on other chromosomes. Reading the literature one is left with the impression that this is a somewhat resilient piece of DNA being passed down generation after generation relatively intact for some of its length. Looking at countries mentioned by the testers Ireland does stand out as a possibility for ancestry but there are many who list only the United States.
One person in particular sharing 28 centimorgans rather intrigues me. He is sharing 0.37% of his genome with one of my brothers and predicted to be a 4th cousin. He has the United Kingdom listed as the birth place of his parents with Oxford, Northampton and Buckingham counties mentioned under other. None of these counties fit into my lines. The UK is great given my 100% UK ancestry. The five surnames he mentioned do not correspond to any of my surnames. One of the people we share in common (his suggested third cousin shares a known 4th cousin of mine descendant of my Welch-Buller family). Because he has an X match with my brother that eliminates our father's side and his father's side. That is always interesting but not enough details to go on. Perhaps I should write to him and I am contemplating doing that. I tend to write to people mostly that are on Gedmatch but do do otherwise.
Myself I share 0.27% of my genome with this individual or about 21 centimorgans. We share some of the same group in common but not entirely. My best match within this group is at 28 centimorgans.That individual also matches my brother at 23 centimorgans with whom I am sharing this other match as well but does not match my other brother and sister.
My second brother does not match this particular pileup. There is a second pileup that he matches along with another sibling. But the phasing of the X chromosome does tell me that possibility could exist in that my one brother and I match quite well on this chromosome and my other brother and one sister are a better match and do not match us. Since I have two Xs I could have two pileups with only one set matching my brother since not all of the matches are in common.
Is it possible to determine if this individual is descendant of my Welch or Buller families? I never did work through that idea at the time. But receiving a reply to my query has sent me back looking at this possibility once again. The other alternative is my Pincombe family and I would be looking at the Gray line only (John Routledge Pincombe married Grace Gray whose father was born at Etton East Riding of Yorkshire and her mother was born at Bewcastle, Cumberland). The counties mentioned as historical by the tester were Oxford, Nottingham and Buckingham. The Gray family were from Etton Yorkshire and Bewcastle Cumberland as mentioned. The Buller family was from Birmingham and Bermondsey Surrey. The Welch family was from Staffordshire and Leicestershire ending up in Birmingham. But there is also my maternal grandmother's family Taylor from Birmingham and ?. My brother only has inherited the one X chromosome from our mother and she of course inherited the Gray X from her paternal grandmother and the other X from her mother. There is also a shared match which does have a short length on another chromosome with whom I have corresponded but she is not aware of her ancestry.
The other possibility is to look at the pileup that my other brother and sister are matching. I have not yet looked at that in any detail. These two share quite a bit of the X chromosome in common.
On checking at Gedmatch I discovered a set of siblings who shared about 25 centimorgans on the X chromosome but also small amounts on other chromosomes. These three siblings are matching my older and my younger sister as well as myself but not my two brothers. However, they do not show up as matches on Ancestry DNA probably sliced out with Timber! I probably should write to this grouping as we are a full match with each other at this point and both of my brothers are a no match. It is not, however, a name with which I am familiar.
Back to the pileup and the range is from 17 to 19 centimorgans and in an area where my other brother and sister both match each other but not myself and my other brother. Four members of the match are from 23 and Me and do not appear under the matches. I continued doing a search for kits that match of these two and did separate out the Chromosome 23 matches but none of them are significantly large except for one individual that I have already written who matches all of us (and she is a recent match (still light green on Gedmatch). She is an X match however to my sister only. On the other chromosomes where this new tester matches us the phasing that I have done thus far implies a Buller-Welch connection. If true then this match alone would solve the original question. Can I resolve the sections on Chromosome 23 into my three grandparents? Since this new match does not match my other sister and I on the X chromosome but we do match our sister with the one X then the only match that works does appear to be Buller-Welch-Taylor for her and Pincombe-Gray for my other sister and myself. For several of the chromosomes I do have a number of cousins who have tested and I am able to confidently predict that my phasing is reasonable given the known information. I shall check the matches on the other chromosomes to see if I can clearly declare these sections on Chromosome 23. None of the chromosomes on which we match have sufficiently long enough known sections to rigorously declare this to be a Buller-Welch connection. However, I shall continue to look upon this new tester as a possibility for solving this query. In the meantime her email is of the UK and perhaps in time I will hear from her.
I am phasing my grandparents DNA and the X chromosome, which is actually easy to work with especially if you have two brothers and two sisters plus yourself tested. Putting together the actual scenario of what it would look like was easy. The hard part was assigning the blocks. The one X is, of course, entirely completely and intact from my paternal grandmother for myself and my sisters. We all inherit the same X as that is the only X which our Father has to pass on to us. He received this singleton X from his mother who received it from her father and mother. In spite of having quite a few matches with cousins I do not have an X chromosome match with a known cousin as my closest cousin to test is a third cousin. He didn't happen to match on the X chromosome because our match is on his father's line.
The person to whom I had written shared 25 centimorgans with us on the X chromosome and the pileup that I found varied between 16 centimorgans (I didn't record less) and 28 centimorgans. The problem is that only a couple of the individuals in the pileups share DNA with one of us on other chromosomes. Reading the literature one is left with the impression that this is a somewhat resilient piece of DNA being passed down generation after generation relatively intact for some of its length. Looking at countries mentioned by the testers Ireland does stand out as a possibility for ancestry but there are many who list only the United States.
One person in particular sharing 28 centimorgans rather intrigues me. He is sharing 0.37% of his genome with one of my brothers and predicted to be a 4th cousin. He has the United Kingdom listed as the birth place of his parents with Oxford, Northampton and Buckingham counties mentioned under other. None of these counties fit into my lines. The UK is great given my 100% UK ancestry. The five surnames he mentioned do not correspond to any of my surnames. One of the people we share in common (his suggested third cousin shares a known 4th cousin of mine descendant of my Welch-Buller family). Because he has an X match with my brother that eliminates our father's side and his father's side. That is always interesting but not enough details to go on. Perhaps I should write to him and I am contemplating doing that. I tend to write to people mostly that are on Gedmatch but do do otherwise.
Myself I share 0.27% of my genome with this individual or about 21 centimorgans. We share some of the same group in common but not entirely. My best match within this group is at 28 centimorgans.That individual also matches my brother at 23 centimorgans with whom I am sharing this other match as well but does not match my other brother and sister.
My second brother does not match this particular pileup. There is a second pileup that he matches along with another sibling. But the phasing of the X chromosome does tell me that possibility could exist in that my one brother and I match quite well on this chromosome and my other brother and one sister are a better match and do not match us. Since I have two Xs I could have two pileups with only one set matching my brother since not all of the matches are in common.
Is it possible to determine if this individual is descendant of my Welch or Buller families? I never did work through that idea at the time. But receiving a reply to my query has sent me back looking at this possibility once again. The other alternative is my Pincombe family and I would be looking at the Gray line only (John Routledge Pincombe married Grace Gray whose father was born at Etton East Riding of Yorkshire and her mother was born at Bewcastle, Cumberland). The counties mentioned as historical by the tester were Oxford, Nottingham and Buckingham. The Gray family were from Etton Yorkshire and Bewcastle Cumberland as mentioned. The Buller family was from Birmingham and Bermondsey Surrey. The Welch family was from Staffordshire and Leicestershire ending up in Birmingham. But there is also my maternal grandmother's family Taylor from Birmingham and ?. My brother only has inherited the one X chromosome from our mother and she of course inherited the Gray X from her paternal grandmother and the other X from her mother. There is also a shared match which does have a short length on another chromosome with whom I have corresponded but she is not aware of her ancestry.
The other possibility is to look at the pileup that my other brother and sister are matching. I have not yet looked at that in any detail. These two share quite a bit of the X chromosome in common.
On checking at Gedmatch I discovered a set of siblings who shared about 25 centimorgans on the X chromosome but also small amounts on other chromosomes. These three siblings are matching my older and my younger sister as well as myself but not my two brothers. However, they do not show up as matches on Ancestry DNA probably sliced out with Timber! I probably should write to this grouping as we are a full match with each other at this point and both of my brothers are a no match. It is not, however, a name with which I am familiar.
Back to the pileup and the range is from 17 to 19 centimorgans and in an area where my other brother and sister both match each other but not myself and my other brother. Four members of the match are from 23 and Me and do not appear under the matches. I continued doing a search for kits that match of these two and did separate out the Chromosome 23 matches but none of them are significantly large except for one individual that I have already written who matches all of us (and she is a recent match (still light green on Gedmatch). She is an X match however to my sister only. On the other chromosomes where this new tester matches us the phasing that I have done thus far implies a Buller-Welch connection. If true then this match alone would solve the original question. Can I resolve the sections on Chromosome 23 into my three grandparents? Since this new match does not match my other sister and I on the X chromosome but we do match our sister with the one X then the only match that works does appear to be Buller-Welch-Taylor for her and Pincombe-Gray for my other sister and myself. For several of the chromosomes I do have a number of cousins who have tested and I am able to confidently predict that my phasing is reasonable given the known information. I shall check the matches on the other chromosomes to see if I can clearly declare these sections on Chromosome 23. None of the chromosomes on which we match have sufficiently long enough known sections to rigorously declare this to be a Buller-Welch connection. However, I shall continue to look upon this new tester as a possibility for solving this query. In the meantime her email is of the UK and perhaps in time I will hear from her.
Sunday, January 7, 2018
Find My Past
I have been a user/subscriber of Find My Past since 2009 and continue to really like this site. I subscribe because it is just easier to always have it at my fingertips whenever I am doing a standard search for anything (in my case all my ancestry is from England thus far on paper). Now that all the big search companies have taken on DNA projects I wonder if Find My Past will make that leap as well. It would be interesting to see Living DNA work with Find My Past I must admit and just wanted to throw that thought into the wind.
I have two sets of results at Living DNA - one for myself and one for one of my brothers (he kindly volunteered to do that as he has with all the other testing that I have done - AncestryDNA, FT DNA, My Heritage, 23 and Me, Britains DNA (no longer operating and they bought Ethnoancestry which I had also tested my brother at years ago; I also did a complete workup at BritainsDNA for him), National Genographic Project and Sorenson. He and I have done a lot of testing through the years since we first got into DNA testing in 2005. I await one set of results I have waited for for a long time - Big Y. I always meant to just buy it but then something else would come up for testing and I just didn't do it but now I await those results. We already know from all of these testing companies that our yDNA is quite ancient to the British Isles. This will simply give me more detail in that regard than I have from National Genographic Project and Britains DNA.
The results at Ancestry from autosomal DNA testing have been really useful (especially in my husband's case but gradually as more and more English people test I am getting close matches). I have subscribed to Ancestry since 2004 and find it to be a very valuable service as well although generally more so in my husband's research but they do have some databases not on Find My Past.
My Heritage is also a very interesting service and the addition of DNA testing there may prove to be very handy as well. I think the option of just having it along with matching is a great service. I have been a subscriber to My Heritage since 2013 when we went to Who Do You Think You Are 2013 Live in London, UK. My husband has found a number of useful searches there with his European ancestry - namely Germany, France, The Netherlands and Denmark.
I used to buy fiche from the various Record Offices in England and then read them in a microfiche reader but I must admit it is a lot nicer to have these services create their large databases of all this material with a link to the original page. At 72 it saves me a lot of time and saves my eyes for other close detail work.
I have two sets of results at Living DNA - one for myself and one for one of my brothers (he kindly volunteered to do that as he has with all the other testing that I have done - AncestryDNA, FT DNA, My Heritage, 23 and Me, Britains DNA (no longer operating and they bought Ethnoancestry which I had also tested my brother at years ago; I also did a complete workup at BritainsDNA for him), National Genographic Project and Sorenson. He and I have done a lot of testing through the years since we first got into DNA testing in 2005. I await one set of results I have waited for for a long time - Big Y. I always meant to just buy it but then something else would come up for testing and I just didn't do it but now I await those results. We already know from all of these testing companies that our yDNA is quite ancient to the British Isles. This will simply give me more detail in that regard than I have from National Genographic Project and Britains DNA.
The results at Ancestry from autosomal DNA testing have been really useful (especially in my husband's case but gradually as more and more English people test I am getting close matches). I have subscribed to Ancestry since 2004 and find it to be a very valuable service as well although generally more so in my husband's research but they do have some databases not on Find My Past.
My Heritage is also a very interesting service and the addition of DNA testing there may prove to be very handy as well. I think the option of just having it along with matching is a great service. I have been a subscriber to My Heritage since 2013 when we went to Who Do You Think You Are 2013 Live in London, UK. My husband has found a number of useful searches there with his European ancestry - namely Germany, France, The Netherlands and Denmark.
I used to buy fiche from the various Record Offices in England and then read them in a microfiche reader but I must admit it is a lot nicer to have these services create their large databases of all this material with a link to the original page. At 72 it saves me a lot of time and saves my eyes for other close detail work.
Saturday, January 6, 2018
Matches with mitochondrial DNA
I just had an email requesting that I forward information on individuals who had tested within a subclade of H11 which I had created. My only response to this ever is to contact the individuals who match you at FT DNA (or elsewhere but my H11 haplogroup project is at FT DNA). All of the matches that are within a reasonable closeness to you shown in the project will be listed by FT DNA.
There are 269 members in the project and almost every subclade mentioned in the phylotree (2016 update) is included in the project. In general the rules for administering a project are pretty straight forward. We must protect every member's privacy and I do attempt to ensure that I do do that.
Mitochondrial DNA can be a very helpful tool to some (for instance my mutations bring me to Argyllshire/Ayrshire Scotland or Ireland - thus far no exceptions in my many matches included in the project. That can be very helpful to some. However, it does not tell me the name of that distant ancestor. I am still stuck in Birmingham in the mid 1800s. I do have a possibility. That possibility in several generations does not lead me to Scotland or Ireland. Family Lore helps a little but nothing substantial from that either. My matches and my Living DNA results do point to my having a Irish/Scot connection but I do have 2 3x great grandparents with a Scot surname although rather distant back. I have no perfect matches other than my siblings and ten one step away. Also having this lovely person with the surname of Taylor adds to that challenge.
My husband on the other hand has over a dozen perfect matches to his mtDNA. The only item he has learned from all of that is a match with someone in England whose line has been in England back to the 1700s at least is a perfect match. Looking at this individual there is a possibility that her ancient ancestor was from Denmark/The Netherlands. He can trace his line back to 1654 when Margaret was baptized in Newport Rhode Island but no further for sure. No one else in that particular maternal line has tested that can trace back to Margaret Carr or her sisters.
There are 269 members in the project and almost every subclade mentioned in the phylotree (2016 update) is included in the project. In general the rules for administering a project are pretty straight forward. We must protect every member's privacy and I do attempt to ensure that I do do that.
Mitochondrial DNA can be a very helpful tool to some (for instance my mutations bring me to Argyllshire/Ayrshire Scotland or Ireland - thus far no exceptions in my many matches included in the project. That can be very helpful to some. However, it does not tell me the name of that distant ancestor. I am still stuck in Birmingham in the mid 1800s. I do have a possibility. That possibility in several generations does not lead me to Scotland or Ireland. Family Lore helps a little but nothing substantial from that either. My matches and my Living DNA results do point to my having a Irish/Scot connection but I do have 2 3x great grandparents with a Scot surname although rather distant back. I have no perfect matches other than my siblings and ten one step away. Also having this lovely person with the surname of Taylor adds to that challenge.
My husband on the other hand has over a dozen perfect matches to his mtDNA. The only item he has learned from all of that is a match with someone in England whose line has been in England back to the 1700s at least is a perfect match. Looking at this individual there is a possibility that her ancient ancestor was from Denmark/The Netherlands. He can trace his line back to 1654 when Margaret was baptized in Newport Rhode Island but no further for sure. No one else in that particular maternal line has tested that can trace back to Margaret Carr or her sisters.
Thursday, January 4, 2018
52 Ancestor Challenge
Would dearly like to do another 52 Ancestor Challenge but it will not happen this year. I shall aim towards doing that 52 Ancestor Challenge beginning in 2019. It will look at the 4x great grandparents of our son in law. All 64 of these 4x great grandparents are known so I shall combine a few of them. Amazingly he never has a duplicate set until one gets back further in time. When I first started this project I had the impression that many many descendants of these early French Canadian settlers had many lines in common. Indeed they do but their families were so very large that often enough in the case of our son in law he is descended from a number of children of the same couple way back in the 1600s and 1700s. The story of the French Canadians is a very important one in Canadian history and it is good that so many are involved in putting together these descendants of that early group. The priests were so very helpful as well carefully recording the birth parishes in France for the many couples who married in Quebec City in the 1600s and they continued with that careful reporting up to the present. Such a wonderful set of historical documents on the early history of Canada.
With three grandparents born in England and the fourth although born in Canada descendant of individuals also born in England, my footprint on this side of this ocean is incredibly small as just my mother, her father and his mother were born in Canada; all the rest were born in England as far back as I have been privileged to trace their lines.
My husband, on the other hand, has a much deeper footprint with his own lines being part of the very early migrations to the New England Colonies/New Holland Colonies dating back to the 1620s.
As I think about all of this history at my fingertips, I must admit some regret at not taking up the mantle of genealogical research much earlier. My husband (his forays in genealogy go back 50 years looking at his Kipp family in particular) started to attend the Ontario Genealogical Society Meetings, Ottawa Branch, in the early 1980s but I simply did not want to get involved in research. My mother was busy going to the Family History Library and collecting information on her family lines which she mentioned in her letters to me so the need to do so never really occurred to me. My mother was still alive when I first went to England in 2001 and I mentioned to her the feeling of being at home in London. At that time, she did mention that she thought the father of her grandfather Buller was from London. My mother passed away several months after that. It took several more years for me to put together my thoughts on that trip to England (I was still working fulltime and that pretty much along with my husband and children occupied my life at the time) and the idea of doing research. It was my cousin George DeKay though who really accelerated the idea of doing genealogy. He wanted a bio for my Pincombe family (my mother was a Pincombe) as an early settler in Westminster Township in 2003 for publication in 2005 (gave me two years to do it!). He was editing the history book for this Township and told me that he had 40 bios to write and I needed to do this one for him. If I did not do it then my cousin would and that cousin believed that my grandfather had a grocery store on Wharncliffe Road. Well that pretty much did it; that Pincombe was my uncle not my grandfather who was a farmer and I did want the history to be right!
Now as I ponder paths backwards in time, the idea that it had to be right bringing me into genealogy, I have to chuckle. I try to have it right; I love it when autosomal DNA matches shows me that indeed I am on the right path but getting it right is not as easy as I may have thought at that time. You can get the early generations pretty well right on but further back even the most exhaustive searches can, on occasion, miss interesting details that would have taken you another path. DNA helps so much with all of that. It would be wondrous if everyone would take their results into Gedmatch I must admit.
With three grandparents born in England and the fourth although born in Canada descendant of individuals also born in England, my footprint on this side of this ocean is incredibly small as just my mother, her father and his mother were born in Canada; all the rest were born in England as far back as I have been privileged to trace their lines.
My husband, on the other hand, has a much deeper footprint with his own lines being part of the very early migrations to the New England Colonies/New Holland Colonies dating back to the 1620s.
As I think about all of this history at my fingertips, I must admit some regret at not taking up the mantle of genealogical research much earlier. My husband (his forays in genealogy go back 50 years looking at his Kipp family in particular) started to attend the Ontario Genealogical Society Meetings, Ottawa Branch, in the early 1980s but I simply did not want to get involved in research. My mother was busy going to the Family History Library and collecting information on her family lines which she mentioned in her letters to me so the need to do so never really occurred to me. My mother was still alive when I first went to England in 2001 and I mentioned to her the feeling of being at home in London. At that time, she did mention that she thought the father of her grandfather Buller was from London. My mother passed away several months after that. It took several more years for me to put together my thoughts on that trip to England (I was still working fulltime and that pretty much along with my husband and children occupied my life at the time) and the idea of doing research. It was my cousin George DeKay though who really accelerated the idea of doing genealogy. He wanted a bio for my Pincombe family (my mother was a Pincombe) as an early settler in Westminster Township in 2003 for publication in 2005 (gave me two years to do it!). He was editing the history book for this Township and told me that he had 40 bios to write and I needed to do this one for him. If I did not do it then my cousin would and that cousin believed that my grandfather had a grocery store on Wharncliffe Road. Well that pretty much did it; that Pincombe was my uncle not my grandfather who was a farmer and I did want the history to be right!
Now as I ponder paths backwards in time, the idea that it had to be right bringing me into genealogy, I have to chuckle. I try to have it right; I love it when autosomal DNA matches shows me that indeed I am on the right path but getting it right is not as easy as I may have thought at that time. You can get the early generations pretty well right on but further back even the most exhaustive searches can, on occasion, miss interesting details that would have taken you another path. DNA helps so much with all of that. It would be wondrous if everyone would take their results into Gedmatch I must admit.
Pageviews at 411057 with 78 followers
Little did I imagine when I started this blog in November 2008 that I would have 78 followers and pageviews numbering in the hundreds of thousands currently at 411,057. Although some of these must be created by google and bing, the audience is from all over the world.
United States 158,650
Germany 65,740
Russia 42,350
United Kingdom 29,793
Canada 24,395
France 16,098
China 9,812
Australia 7,480
Ukraine 6,689
Sweden 2,145
That is looking at the pageviews since the beginning of the blog. However in any particular time period I also have reports of viewing for Norway, Finland, Spain, Poland, Chile, Columbia, and others which do not show up at the moment checking across the time period for views.
Not surprising to find United States looking at my Blake posts and probably 50% are Blake and that includes the United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.
Germany is perhaps my posts on my husband's German families - not a lot but there are some. Also within the Blake surname study there are several Blake lines that trace back to Germany.
Russia is likely because of my blogs on H11 which is found to a large extent in Russia particularly in the Ossettia area. I have had a number of emails from members of our study group who live in Russia. My H11a2a1 likely traveled from the Ukraina Ice Refuge 15,000 years ago across Doggerland to Scotland where the mutations common to me are found still today in Argyllshire and Ayrshire as well as County Antrim, Ireland. But we all belong to that same subclade H11 although with different mutations thus separating us into the many subclades of H11.
Sweden and the Ukraine also have a goodly percentage of people with H11 mitochondrial DNA and hence I suspect also are looking at those posts as a number of the people in our study group for H11 still live in Sweden and the Ukraine.
France likely stems from all the posts that I have done in the past on the French Canadian research that I have done on our son in law's families. His many lines stretch far back into early colonial New France particularly in the Quebec City area and Montreal.
China I am not sure but perhaps it is Blake researchers living in Hong Kong. No ideas really on that.
My last post looking at the number of pageviews was at 100,000 page views 26th February 2014. It took six years to reach 100,000 and only another four years to be at 411,057.
I hope to return to my will transcription in the near future but in the meantime I am tying up loose ends from last year. Somehow doing Conference 2017 occupied a great deal of my time and many many projects were begun and set aside. Because I had to do a lot of backtracking to pick up those threads I started new projects when time was available and now I am in the process of picking up those varied projects and completing them.
Some of them involve emailing back and forth to people whose DNA matched mine and as the search became more detailed I ran out of time to continue that remarkable research. Now I want to do so and see where it takes me. I have one real mystery in my family lines.
That of my great grandmother Ellen Taylor. Ellen only lived 37 years on this earth but she was greatly loved by her children and in particular my maternal grandmother. My grandmother was eleven when her mother died from pneumonia in Aston, Birmingham, England. Her youngest child was just one year of age when she died in 1897. Even all those years later when I was in my teens it still horrified my grandmother to think that her mother died so young at 37 years of age. By then my grandmother was in her mid 70s just a little older than I am now. She was very healthy at that time although beginning to show the signs of age. I can remember her when she was in her early 60s and taught me to double jump with a skipping rope. But age catches up to us and she gradually aged before my eyes. I was so lucky to see her every week of my life until her death (and oftener especially in the summer when I would bike over to visit with her most days). My grandmother talked a lot about her mother I always thought but now as I reach back into her past I realize she talked about her as a person and not as a member of any family group. My questions about her parents were skillfully put aside in favour of details about her mother as the person that she loved. Towards my late teens (my grandmother died when I was 21) she gradually let slip into conversation details about her mother. I suspect this was accidental because questioning did not bring more details but rather an interesting story about her mother and her handiwork. I did learn that her mother had had an illegitimate child seven years before my grandmother was born (my grandmother was the eldest of seven children). I did find Florence Elizabeth Taylor and Ellen Taylor on the 1881 census but linking her with her family was a challenge that continues to this day. I think I have found her with her family on the census in 1861 and 1871 but not being able to find the marriage registration for my Edwin Denner Buller and Ellen Taylor has meant not knowing for sure the name of her father and with a name like Taylor that really is a must have. So any possible links to my great grandmother are carefully traced to see if they will yield that answer.
Phasing my grandparents continues to be high on my list and hence DNA remains one of my most important tools in my genealogy toolkit. It is funny to hear me talk about genealogy even after fifteen years of being involved. I really stayed away from genealogy for a very very long time. I enjoyed hearing stories from my grandparents about my relatives in far away England as a child. But it didn't motivate me to really look at those relatives and the ancestors that we shared in common. A trip to England in 2001 had more to do with my becoming interested in genealogy. As we checked into our hotel near Covent Garden in London I had this incredible feeling of belonging. It stayed with me the entire time as we walked the streets in that area. Little did I know in November 2001 that my 2x great grandfather Henry Christopher Buller had had a pork butcher shop just around the corner from our hotel in the 1830s and 1840s. That feeling of belonging made me aware that I really did not know a lot about my families all of whom, still to my knowledge, were born in England way back into time.
I have diverged from the original post which I do do often enough that is for sure. Back to work!
United States 158,650
Germany 65,740
Russia 42,350
United Kingdom 29,793
Canada 24,395
France 16,098
China 9,812
Australia 7,480
Ukraine 6,689
Sweden 2,145
That is looking at the pageviews since the beginning of the blog. However in any particular time period I also have reports of viewing for Norway, Finland, Spain, Poland, Chile, Columbia, and others which do not show up at the moment checking across the time period for views.
Not surprising to find United States looking at my Blake posts and probably 50% are Blake and that includes the United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.
Germany is perhaps my posts on my husband's German families - not a lot but there are some. Also within the Blake surname study there are several Blake lines that trace back to Germany.
Russia is likely because of my blogs on H11 which is found to a large extent in Russia particularly in the Ossettia area. I have had a number of emails from members of our study group who live in Russia. My H11a2a1 likely traveled from the Ukraina Ice Refuge 15,000 years ago across Doggerland to Scotland where the mutations common to me are found still today in Argyllshire and Ayrshire as well as County Antrim, Ireland. But we all belong to that same subclade H11 although with different mutations thus separating us into the many subclades of H11.
Sweden and the Ukraine also have a goodly percentage of people with H11 mitochondrial DNA and hence I suspect also are looking at those posts as a number of the people in our study group for H11 still live in Sweden and the Ukraine.
France likely stems from all the posts that I have done in the past on the French Canadian research that I have done on our son in law's families. His many lines stretch far back into early colonial New France particularly in the Quebec City area and Montreal.
China I am not sure but perhaps it is Blake researchers living in Hong Kong. No ideas really on that.
My last post looking at the number of pageviews was at 100,000 page views 26th February 2014. It took six years to reach 100,000 and only another four years to be at 411,057.
I hope to return to my will transcription in the near future but in the meantime I am tying up loose ends from last year. Somehow doing Conference 2017 occupied a great deal of my time and many many projects were begun and set aside. Because I had to do a lot of backtracking to pick up those threads I started new projects when time was available and now I am in the process of picking up those varied projects and completing them.
Some of them involve emailing back and forth to people whose DNA matched mine and as the search became more detailed I ran out of time to continue that remarkable research. Now I want to do so and see where it takes me. I have one real mystery in my family lines.
That of my great grandmother Ellen Taylor. Ellen only lived 37 years on this earth but she was greatly loved by her children and in particular my maternal grandmother. My grandmother was eleven when her mother died from pneumonia in Aston, Birmingham, England. Her youngest child was just one year of age when she died in 1897. Even all those years later when I was in my teens it still horrified my grandmother to think that her mother died so young at 37 years of age. By then my grandmother was in her mid 70s just a little older than I am now. She was very healthy at that time although beginning to show the signs of age. I can remember her when she was in her early 60s and taught me to double jump with a skipping rope. But age catches up to us and she gradually aged before my eyes. I was so lucky to see her every week of my life until her death (and oftener especially in the summer when I would bike over to visit with her most days). My grandmother talked a lot about her mother I always thought but now as I reach back into her past I realize she talked about her as a person and not as a member of any family group. My questions about her parents were skillfully put aside in favour of details about her mother as the person that she loved. Towards my late teens (my grandmother died when I was 21) she gradually let slip into conversation details about her mother. I suspect this was accidental because questioning did not bring more details but rather an interesting story about her mother and her handiwork. I did learn that her mother had had an illegitimate child seven years before my grandmother was born (my grandmother was the eldest of seven children). I did find Florence Elizabeth Taylor and Ellen Taylor on the 1881 census but linking her with her family was a challenge that continues to this day. I think I have found her with her family on the census in 1861 and 1871 but not being able to find the marriage registration for my Edwin Denner Buller and Ellen Taylor has meant not knowing for sure the name of her father and with a name like Taylor that really is a must have. So any possible links to my great grandmother are carefully traced to see if they will yield that answer.
Phasing my grandparents continues to be high on my list and hence DNA remains one of my most important tools in my genealogy toolkit. It is funny to hear me talk about genealogy even after fifteen years of being involved. I really stayed away from genealogy for a very very long time. I enjoyed hearing stories from my grandparents about my relatives in far away England as a child. But it didn't motivate me to really look at those relatives and the ancestors that we shared in common. A trip to England in 2001 had more to do with my becoming interested in genealogy. As we checked into our hotel near Covent Garden in London I had this incredible feeling of belonging. It stayed with me the entire time as we walked the streets in that area. Little did I know in November 2001 that my 2x great grandfather Henry Christopher Buller had had a pork butcher shop just around the corner from our hotel in the 1830s and 1840s. That feeling of belonging made me aware that I really did not know a lot about my families all of whom, still to my knowledge, were born in England way back into time.
I have diverged from the original post which I do do often enough that is for sure. Back to work!
Wednesday, January 3, 2018
Blake Newsletter - Volume 7, Issue 1, 2018
Blake
Newsletter
Table
of Contents
1.
Blake Pedigree Chart – Blake Museum at
Bridgwater, Somerset
2.
Blake Surname Study - Progress
3.
Blake autosomal DNA Study at FT DNA
4.
Andover, Hampshire, England Parish
Registers
5.
yDNA study FT DNA
6.
The Future
1.
Blake Pedigree Chart – Blake Museum at
Bridgwater, Somerset. This is a recent addition to their website: http://www.bridgwatermuseum.org.uk/
The
Blake Museum has given me permission to put these charts in the newsletter so I
will continue with looking at them individually. Part 1 was shown in Volume 6,
Issue 4, 2017 of the Blake Newsletter. This Issue will have the image named as
Part 2.
*
*Used
with permission
Part
2 of the chart looks at the Blake family at Andover in the top left quadrant.
As mentioned in the last issue of the newsletter the broken line joining this
Blake family to the Blake family at Calne includes a cautionary note that this
particular line of relation has not been fully established. I do not believe
that these two Blake families are related on the male line. The Chart displayed
coincides with Horatio Gates Somerby chart on this family and is not supported
by the wills left by members of this family. His work on the Blake family has
been discredited by myself and others. The addition of the Farewell family to
this particular chart is quite interesting and may help researchers if they are
able to substantiate the records displayed. The Blake records found in the
lower section of this Chart will be discussed later but they are descendants of
the Somerset Blake family. Perhaps over time descendants of the Blake family
from the Bridgwater, Somerset area will test their yDNA and the very long
standing question will be answered as to the relationship between the Blake
family at Calne and the Blake family at Bridgwater. In truth, there hasn’t been
a tester with a proven paper line back to the Blake family at Calne and that
too must be awaited. Thank you to the Museum for permitting the republication
of their chart to this Blake Newsletter.
2.
Blake Surname Study – Progress: One Name
Blake Study at the Guild of One-name Studies was originally undertaken by
another researcher. I took it on as a project in 2011 when my husband was ill
and we were spending all of our time at home while he convalesced. Fortunately,
following surgery, he was able to again take on commitments that he enjoyed and
my time to work on the Blake study diminished. Hopefully, as he steps back from
some of his commitments, I will once again be able to become more fully engaged
with my study. In that frame of mind, I say once again that I hope to soon
return to blogging the Blake wills from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury and
other Registry Offices. Unfortunately my time is still limited in my ability to
spend as much time on the Blake Study as I would like. Perhaps in another six
months time will present itself although I will attempt to get back to
transcribing the Blake wills.
3.
Blake autosomal DNA Study at FT DNA
I continue having more matches with the descendants
of John Blake and Ann Farmer. In some cases these are large matches and in
other cases relatively small but that is the way with the inheritance of
autosomal DNA. With each generation chunks of autosomal DNA can either be
broken into smaller units or passed as a large chunk relatively intact. It is a
purely random event. Due to privacy concerns it is not possible to produce a
chart of the members who do have matches with other members of the group but
each member is able to check that for themselves in their account. What would
be helpful is adding a family tree to your account thus making it much more
possible to find matching autosomal DNA cousins in your research.
4.
Andover, Hampshire, England Parish
Registers
Andover, Hampshire, England has often been said to be
the “home of the Blakes” when I have been writing to people in Hampshire
through the years. I would say that Calne, Wiltshire perhaps has a stronger
hold on that particular title although there are a number of other areas in
England where the Blake family has been for centuries. When I decided to
transcribe the Parish Registers of Andover I was surprised to find that yes
there are a number of Blake entries but there are far more Blake entries in
Parish Registers in other parts of England as mentioned. In this issue, I will
publish the burials for Blake in the Parish Registers. These records are taken
from fiche which have scans of the original parish registers. The registers for
burials begin in 1586 and have provided me with a lot of details on the Blake
family in Andover in the late 1500s and into the 1600s/1700s. Eventually I hope
to complete my project of transcribing these Parish Registers for St Marys
Andover beyond the early to mid 1700s.
I am considering posting the entire set of Andover
transcriptions in these newsletters in order to make the information available
to other Blake researchers.
Surname Forename status Surname Forename Surname Forename Year Month Day Comment
Blak William son Blak Mr. Richard 1638 January 26
Blake Nycolas 1586 March 1
Blake Elizabeth 1589 October 2 widow
Blake Roberd son Blake Roberd 1593 August 4
Blake John son Blake John 1596 July 17 of Penton
Blake Jo…. daughter Blake John 1596 September 17
Blake Margrat 1597 August 8
Blake _______ son Blake Ritchard 1599 March 2
Blake John 1603 April 17
Blake Augustine son Blake Joane 1603 March 10 widow
Blake Robert 1604 March 15
Blake Robert 1604 died March 10
Blake Ann wife Blake Edward 1605 July 3 of Charleton
Blake Thomas 1608 June 11 of Foxscott
Blake Elsabeth wife Blake Robert 1608 August 8 at Enham
Blake Robert 1609 November 10
Blake Margerie 1609 December 8
Blake Nicholas 1611 June 24
Blake Alce daughter Blake Robert 1611 June 12
Blake Elizabeth wife Blake Mr. William 1613 May 20
Blake Alice daughter Blake Richard 1613 September 11
Blake Mrs. Margaret 1613 September 12 widow
Blake Richard 1614 May 21
Blake Peter 1614 August 16
Blake Aggas 1614 September 3
Blake Margery 1614 October 28 widow
Blake Robert 1615 September 10
Blake Robert 1619 September 20
Blake Elizabeth wife Blake John 1620 March 19
Blake John son Blake Henry 1622 November 6
Blake Mr. Richard 1622 January 14
Blake Peeter 1624 November
Blake John 1624 March 14 of Charleton
Blake Edward 1625 April 7 of ______
Blake Kathern wife Blake Nicholas 1627 January 5
Blake infant Blake Edward 1629 September 21
Blake infant Blake Edward 1629 September 21
Blake Mrs. Jone 1631 May 20 widow
Blake Blake Mr. William 1631 June 9
Blake Rebecca daughter Blake John 1639 June 7
Blake Mr. William 1642 May 4
Blake Mr. Richard 1644 April 12 of London
Blake Blake Mr. Richard 1644 October 8
Blake Mrs. 1648 March 28
Blake Mr. Richard 1648 April 4
Blake Edward 1653 March 15 of Charlton
Blake Hercules 1656 May 26 of Enham
Blake Mr. William 1656 December 5 buried at Enham
Blake Richard son Blake widdow 1658 October 3
Blake Sarah daughter Blake Mr Richard 1675 November 24
Blake John 1676 September 17
Blake son Blake Mr. Peter 1676 October 1
Blake Mr. Nicholas 1677 March 14 of G______
Blake Mr. Robert 1678 October 7 woollen,
Blake Margery 1679 September 23 of Charlton, woollen,
Blake Mr. Richard 1682 February 2 woollen
Blake John son Blake John 1684 February 15 woollen
Blake Peter 1691 January 5 esquire, woollen
Blake Mr. Peter 1693 December 6 woollen
Blake Elizabeth daughter Blake John 1693 January 15 woollen
Blake Richard son Blake John 1694 July 25 woollen
Blake Mr C A 1694 August 27 woollen
Blake William 1696 May 1 of Foxcott, woollen
Blake Charles 1697 October 4 woollen
Blake Jane widow 1697 October 8 woollen
Blake Anne daughter Blake John 1702 April 17 woollen
Blake Joannah daughter Blake Robert 1702 September 23 woollen
Blake James son Blake Mr. Robert 1710 October 24 woollen
Blake Anne daughter Blake John 1711 June 20 woollen
Blake Elizabeth 1713 September 9 woollen
Blake Thomas 1714 January 29 woollen
Blake Jane daughter Blake Robert 1718 October 13 woollen
Blake Robert 1729 May 15
Blake Robert son Blake John 1729 November 27
Blake Mary 1730 February 8
Blake Joseph son Blake Joseph Elizabeth 1733 February 3
Blake the widow 1734 April 2
Blake Elizabeth 1736 October 20
Blake Sarah 1740 December 25
Blake Joseph son Blake Joseph 1746 December 17
Blake Mary 1747 April 16
Blake Betty 1747 October 13
Blake Francis 1752 August 18
Blake Mary 1755 May 28
Blake alias Noyse Dorothy 1632 February 27
Blak William son Blak Mr. Richard 1638 January 26
Blake Nycolas 1586 March 1
Blake Elizabeth 1589 October 2 widow
Blake Roberd son Blake Roberd 1593 August 4
Blake John son Blake John 1596 July 17 of Penton
Blake Jo…. daughter Blake John 1596 September 17
Blake Margrat 1597 August 8
Blake _______ son Blake Ritchard 1599 March 2
Blake John 1603 April 17
Blake Augustine son Blake Joane 1603 March 10 widow
Blake Robert 1604 March 15
Blake Robert 1604 died March 10
Blake Ann wife Blake Edward 1605 July 3 of Charleton
Blake Thomas 1608 June 11 of Foxscott
Blake Elsabeth wife Blake Robert 1608 August 8 at Enham
Blake Robert 1609 November 10
Blake Margerie 1609 December 8
Blake Nicholas 1611 June 24
Blake Alce daughter Blake Robert 1611 June 12
Blake Elizabeth wife Blake Mr. William 1613 May 20
Blake Alice daughter Blake Richard 1613 September 11
Blake Mrs. Margaret 1613 September 12 widow
Blake Richard 1614 May 21
Blake Peter 1614 August 16
Blake Aggas 1614 September 3
Blake Margery 1614 October 28 widow
Blake Robert 1615 September 10
Blake Robert 1619 September 20
Blake Elizabeth wife Blake John 1620 March 19
Blake John son Blake Henry 1622 November 6
Blake Mr. Richard 1622 January 14
Blake Peeter 1624 November
Blake John 1624 March 14 of Charleton
Blake Edward 1625 April 7 of ______
Blake Kathern wife Blake Nicholas 1627 January 5
Blake infant Blake Edward 1629 September 21
Blake infant Blake Edward 1629 September 21
Blake Mrs. Jone 1631 May 20 widow
Blake Blake Mr. William 1631 June 9
Blake Rebecca daughter Blake John 1639 June 7
Blake Mr. William 1642 May 4
Blake Mr. Richard 1644 April 12 of London
Blake Blake Mr. Richard 1644 October 8
Blake Mrs. 1648 March 28
Blake Mr. Richard 1648 April 4
Blake Edward 1653 March 15 of Charlton
Blake Hercules 1656 May 26 of Enham
Blake Mr. William 1656 December 5 buried at Enham
Blake Richard son Blake widdow 1658 October 3
Blake Sarah daughter Blake Mr Richard 1675 November 24
Blake John 1676 September 17
Blake son Blake Mr. Peter 1676 October 1
Blake Mr. Nicholas 1677 March 14 of G______
Blake Mr. Robert 1678 October 7 woollen,
Blake Margery 1679 September 23 of Charlton, woollen,
Blake Mr. Richard 1682 February 2 woollen
Blake John son Blake John 1684 February 15 woollen
Blake Peter 1691 January 5 esquire, woollen
Blake Mr. Peter 1693 December 6 woollen
Blake Elizabeth daughter Blake John 1693 January 15 woollen
Blake Richard son Blake John 1694 July 25 woollen
Blake Mr C A 1694 August 27 woollen
Blake William 1696 May 1 of Foxcott, woollen
Blake Charles 1697 October 4 woollen
Blake Jane widow 1697 October 8 woollen
Blake Anne daughter Blake John 1702 April 17 woollen
Blake Joannah daughter Blake Robert 1702 September 23 woollen
Blake James son Blake Mr. Robert 1710 October 24 woollen
Blake Anne daughter Blake John 1711 June 20 woollen
Blake Elizabeth 1713 September 9 woollen
Blake Thomas 1714 January 29 woollen
Blake Jane daughter Blake Robert 1718 October 13 woollen
Blake Robert 1729 May 15
Blake Robert son Blake John 1729 November 27
Blake Mary 1730 February 8
Blake Joseph son Blake Joseph Elizabeth 1733 February 3
Blake the widow 1734 April 2
Blake Elizabeth 1736 October 20
Blake Sarah 1740 December 25
Blake Joseph son Blake Joseph 1746 December 17
Blake Mary 1747 April 16
Blake Betty 1747 October 13
Blake Francis 1752 August 18
Blake Mary 1755 May 28
Blake alias Noyse Dorothy 1632 February 27
5.
Blake Surname yDNA Project
yDNA
studies are proving to be a very successful method of connecting back to your
ancestral Blake line. Movement of people in particular emigrations has broken
that connection for many Blake family lines.
I
have now added the Big Y to my brother’s test and the results are due in mid
March. I will leave any discussion on yDNA until the next newsletter.
6.
The Future
I
hope to continue with the newsletter for quite a while. At 72 years of age I
realize that my time doing the Blake Study is limited so I would like to be
able in the next ten years to hand it off to someone interested in continuing
and keeping research ongoing into this ancient family. Although some believe
that there is common ancestry for this family back to a singleton individual,
that is simply not possible given the various haplogroups. The surname Blak[e]
can be seen to have arisen spontaneously on the continent considering the
number of males with the Blake surname who came to England between 1330 and
1550 from areas outside of England including various places in Europe and also
Ireland.
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