An interesting email and a number of images from an Australian correspondent on the Butt family has led me back once again to my Knight family. I haven't been able to agree with other Knight researchers on our mutual ancestors before William Knight (married to Sarah Ellis) and John Knight (married to Ann Vincent). I have a vague recollection of my Grandfather mentioning that he had grandparents that were cousins and that they had 18 children. It does appear that it was a set of his great grandparents who had 13 children but I was only eight when he died so could easily have misunderstood that. I haven't been able to find the cousin relationship although Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight certainly shared the same surname (they were my grandfather's great grandparents). There is at least one cousin marriage though that I do know about now and my grandfather could have been confused in that regard now that I have put the Carter/Blake/King family puzzle together with Joseph Blake and Joanna King (one set of my 4x great grandparents) being first cousins.
As I was going through the Winterborne Stickland Parish Registers I noted a marriage with John Vincent of Dewlish and so I had a look at that parish and discovered many Vincent entries including Ann baptized 26 Oct 1755 at Dewlish and the daughter of James Vincent and Ann Moulam. Ann Vincent married John Knight 9 Jun 1783 at Shapwick (2 miles from Spetisbury) and I have been trying to find information on this couple for quite a while. Why do they marry at Shapwick and not Spetisbury? Dewlish is 11 miles from Shapwick as well; why not Dewlish if that is her birthplace? James Vincent and Ann Moulam married 28 Nov 1733 at Dewlish and their first daughter Ann died young. However, when I check the OPC Dorset site for Shapwick the marriage registration is there for John Knight and Ann Vincent but no baptisms at Shapwick for the Knight family. Also they are the only Knight marriage at Shapwick between 1731 and 1813.
Also in the Winterborne Stickland Parish Registers I found the burial of John Knight 17 Nov 1826 and his age was listed as 69 years giving him a likely year of birth of 1757 and there is a christening 2 Oct 1757 at Spetisbury of John son of David Knight and Martha Buller (married 17 Feb 1756 at Spetisbury). I had discarded this couple as the parents of John because John and Ann did not name one of their sons David. Nor did they name one of their sons Henry and David is known to be the son of Henry Knight and Mary Oliver (married 25 Dec 1727 at Spetisbury). But as I worked my way through these thoughts I am remembering that I did not find the children of John Knight and Ann Vincent - they were given to me early on in my genealogy work. I did not touch the Knight family when we went to Salt Lake City so in fact I have not really looked at this family beyond doubting the connections that other researchers have found between William and John Knight (both are my 4x great grandfathers) and the ancestors of these two.
Looking at the IGI since the baptisms are not yet online at Ancestry in the Dorset records, I find
Eleanor baptized 12 Dec 1786 at Silton
Martha baptized 28 Oct 1796 at Silton
I know from the census that Eleanor always says she was born at Spetisbury so the Silton is somewhat confusing and as well 19 miles from Spetisbury. Is this an error of transcription? Once the registers are online prior to 1813 I will have an answer to that question. Looking at the OPC Dorset website, Silton Bishop Transcripts do not list any Knight baptisms between 1731 and 1880 so it is an error but in favour of which village? That remains to be discovered.
Did they have only the two children? There are seven other children listed for this couple by other researchers: Elizabeth Ann, Thomas, Jemima, Benjamin, Joseph, James and Samuel. No baptisms are listed by other researchers for these children; dates given are from the census when available otherwise they would appear to be subjective.A great deal is known about Eleanor and she was 83 years of age when she died. She lived with my grandfather's grandfather and died just before the marriage of my great grandparents Blake 25 Sep 1870 at Turnworth (Edward Blake married Maria Jane Knight 29 Oct 1870 at Upper Clatford).
Eleanor Knight married Ellis Knight 29 May 1804 at Spetisbury but their marriage in the IGI is listed as Silton. This Knight marriage does not appear on the Silton Parish Records on the OPC site.
From another researcher I have but not verified by me:
Spetisbury Parish Records
FHL Film # 1239228
Baptisms
1812 May 24 Harry s/o William & Sarah Knight
1811 Nov 8 Samuel s/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1810 Oct 1 George s/o Henry & Anne Knight
1810 Oct 8 William s/o William & Eliz Knight
1809 Aug 20 George s/o William & Sarah Knight
1809 Nov 26 Mary Ann d/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1808 Jun 28 George s/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1808 Oct 30 Jane d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1807 Feb 25 Eliz d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1807 Mar 22 Hannah d/o William & Sarah Knight
1807 Aug 16 David s/o William & Eliz Knight
1806 Jul 27 Ellis s/o Ellis & Eleanor Knight
1804 Jan 22 Charles s/o William & Sarah Knight
1804 Oct 21 Eliza d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1802 May 11 James s/o William & Sarah Knight
1802 Dec 26 Mary Ann d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1801 Jan 11 Henrietta d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1800 Nov 30 John s/o John & Ann Knight
1799 Mar 22 Benjamin s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1799 Sep 22 William s/o William & Sarah Knight
1798 Apr 29 Joseph s/o Thomas & Ann Knight
1798 Sep 25 Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1797 Jan ? Maria d/o John & ?? Knight (bef Jan 10)
1797 Nov 13 Jemima d/o William & Ann Knight
1796 Oct 8 Martha d/o John & Ann Knight
1795 Sep 17 Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1795 Oct 4 George s/o Sarah Knight
1795 Dec 15 Ann d/o Thomas & Ann Knight
1794 Jan 30 Mary d/o Thomas & Ann Knight
1794 Mar 3 Harriet d/o John & Eliz Knight
1794 Jul 6 James s/o William & Ann Knight
1792 Jun 3 Charlotte c/o John & Eliz Knight
1792 Aug 9 Mary Ann d/o Thomas & Eliz Knight
1792 Oct 7 Mary Ann d/o John & Eliz Knight
1791 Apr 21 Jane d/o John & Eliz Knight
1791 Oct 16 Elizabeth Anne d/o William & Ann Knight
1789 Jun 28 Charles s/o William & Ann Knight
1789 Sep 25 Sophia d/o Jo & Anne Knight
1789 Dec 1 Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1787 Dec 16 David s/o John & Eliz Knight
1786 Jan 1 Jane d/o John & Eliz Knight
1786 Dec 12 Eleanor d/o John & Ann Knight
1785 Aug 24 Joseph s/o Joh & Anne Knight
1784 May 2 David s/o J & Eliz Knight
1778 Oct 1 George s/o Thomas & Martha Knight
1777 Jan 26 Mary d/o Thomas & Martha Knight
1777 Dec 27 David s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1774 Apr 3 Henry s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1773 Nov 21 Henry s/o Thomas & Martha Knight
1772 Dec 13 Thomas s/o David & Martha Knight
1770 May 20 David s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1768 Feb 24 Elizabeth d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1766 Feb 2 Sarah d/o Henry & Ann Knight
1764 Feb 5 William s/o David & Martha Knight
1764 Mar 21 Henry s/o Henry & Ann Knight
Marriages
1804 Apr 8 William Knight & Eliz Mitchel
1804 May 29 Ellis Knight & Eleanor Knight
1799 Apr 13 Henry Knight & Ann Holloway
1798 Nov ? William Knight & Sarah Loader
1793 Nov 7 James Collins & Ann Knight
1791 Jan 17 John Smith of Blandford Forum & Mary Knight
1786 Oct 23 William Knight, b & Ann Ballet, s, both OTP
Burials
1810 Oct 8 William s/o William & Eliz Knight
1806 Jan 1 Martha Knight
1801 Feb 3 Henry Knight
1801 Jun 10 Elizabeth Knight
1801 Sep 14 Charles Knight
1801 Sep 14 James Knight
1799 Feb 15 John Knight
1798 May 8 Ann Knight
1796 Jan 5 Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1796 Jan 13 Harriet d/o John & Eliz Knight
1793 Oct 19 Miriam Knight
1791 Apr 21 Henry s/o John & Eliz Knight
1788 Jun 2 Henry Knight
1788 Jun 11 Ann widow of Henry Knight
1787 Jan 31 Jane d/o John & Eliz Knight
1786 Jan 19 David s/o John & Eliz Knight
1786 Aug 16 Mary Knight
1785 Sep 4 Joseph s/o John & Eliz Knight
1778 Sep 28 Henry Knight, parish clerk
1773 Sep 20 Henry s/o Henry & Ann Knight
1768 Feb 26 Eliz infant d/o Henry & Ann Knight
From this list I have as children of John and Ann Knight:
1800 Nov 30 John s/o John & Ann Knight
1796 Oct 8 Martha d/o John & Ann Knight
1789 Sep 25 Sophia d/o Jo & Anne Knight
1786 Dec 12 Eleanor d/o John & Ann Knight
1785 Aug 24 Joseph s/o Joh & Anne Knight
I am noticing that Elizabeth Ann, Thomas, Jemima, Benjamin, James and Samuel belong to different parents namely William and Ann Knight. David, Henry and Thomas are all brothers and sons of Henry Knight and Mary Oliver. The big question to me at this point is who is Henry Knight married to Mary Oliver. He was Parish Clerk at Spetisbury and buried 28 Sep 1778.
I shall check the Spetisbury records on Ancestry now to see if I can find any marriages for these children and I did not find anything conclusive for Sophia, Martha, Joseph or John siblings of Eleanor.
I do have one part of my question answered with respect to John and William Knight. They are not brothers. Probably they are not first cousins but beyond that I have no idea. I am not sure of the parents of William Knight and Sarah Ellis. Sarah does appear on the census so I know that she was born around 1756 which fits with the data that I have. But were the parents of William Knight as thought? Were they William Knight and Mary Dashwood who married 9 Aug 1760 at St Peter Shaftesbury Dorset?
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