Pincombe-Pinkham
Newsletter
Table
of Contents
1.
Coat of Arms of the Pincombe Family of
South Molton
2.
yDNA Study of the Pincombe-Pinkham Family
3.
Autosomal Study of the descendants of Robert
Pincombe and Elizabeth Rowcliffe
4.
Visitation of Devon – Pincombe – 1620
(with additions) compared to earlier Visitations
5.
Pincombe line of the Editor
Coat of Arms of the Pincombe Family of
South Molton
Only
one line, as far as I am aware, of the Pincombe Family has ever been entitled
to bear the coat of arms pictured in this newsletter. This was the Pincombe
line at South Molton. The Grant from the Royal College was in 1616 to John
Pyncombe who was married to Amy Dodridge sister to Judge Dodridge (daughter of
Richard Dodridge of Barnstaple). His son also bore these arms, John Pincombe
(Barister of the Middle Temple) married to Mary daughter of Sir John Carew of
Crowcombe. I do not know if the son of John Pincombe, Richard Pincombe, ever
bore these arms in the short year after his father died and before he died. I
believe that Gertrude sister to Richard may have borne these arms as the eldest
daughter but that would have ended with her. The wealth of this particular
Pincombe family formed The Pyncombe Trust which still exists today at Poughill.
yDNA study of the Pincombe-Pinkham family
Although I started this project at FT DNA back in
2008, it is only at this time that there are sufficient results to really
discuss the yDNA portion of the results for the Pincombe-Pinkham family. I
should mention that I am developing very much of a hands-off approach to these
DNA studies. Although this is likely a singleton family, there are still going
to be possibilities for differing results. There could be an occasion where a
line daughtered out and a male has taken his wife’s surname for whatever
reason. There is always the possibility of adoption especially in the early
years in the American Colonies given the high death rate. As well, the
possibility of not the expected male line could also occur in the case of
illegitimacy.
Thus far there are two distinct lines for this
family:
R1b haplogroup (North Devon ancestry) and I
haplogroup (Colonial America).
Obviously these two are not related in any sort of
genealogical timeframe. A suggestion was made to me by one of the members of
the Pinkham-1 group that in his researching he had discovered the possibility
that an ancient ancestor had been adopted by a Pincombe family in the 1600s in
Colonial America. This would certainly account for the difference.
The three results for the North Devon family (and the
Pinkham result which has not yet been able to find their emigrant ancestor
although I have placed him in this grouping because he matches the other two in
a reasonable genealogical timeframe accounting for any differences) are from
the R1b haplogroup generally referred to as R-L21. All results belong to R-L21
although the haplogroup testing has only been performed on the one sample but
the SNP M269 is upstream of the SNP L21. None of these three men are an exact
match but in each case they are separated by hundreds of years with the first
sample being descendant of the Barnstaple/Bideford Pincombe family, the second
being descendant of my line at Bishops Nympton and the third being in the
American Colonies and traced back into the mid 1700s thus far. Family lore
links the family at South Molton/North Molton with the Barnstaple/Bideford
Pincombe family. In particular William Pincombe who left his will in 1602
probated 1605 had seven sons and to date I have only been able to trace three
of them down into a reasonable time frame with all remaining in the South
Molton/North Molton area into the 1800s.
Unfortunately the three results for the group labeled
Pinkham-1 are not quite so clearcut. Two members of this group are a good match
but the third member does not match them although he too belongs to haplogroup
I. Time may well answer all questions in that regard.
Until recently I have more or less ignored the yDNA
study because I wasn’t able to resolve the differences in the results but the
addition of the two R1b results has clarified the study and renewed my thoughts
on the value of the yDNA study.
I had received 14 charts (bulletin board sized) from
the earlier Pincombe researchers which I am slowly entering into Legacy (I do
have these charts in electronic form) which showed that Pincombe and Pinkham
were used interchangeably by a number of the descendant families in North Devon
and elsewhere although in my Pincomb/Pincombe line at Bishops Nympton the
spelling Pinkham was never used in any English records.
Autosomal
Study of the descendants of Robert Pincombe and Elizabeth Rowcliffe
The excitement of autosomal DNA is slowly seeping
into one-name studies. Women can not test for their ancestors in any male line
unless they have a male to test for them – father, brother, male cousin in that
line, or uncle. But women can test their autosomal DNA and match with other
descendants of particular ancestors. In this case I have a number of
interesting matches with descendants of Robert Pincombe and Elizabeth Rowcliffe
our mutual 3x great grandparents (or 4x great grandparents in one of the
matches).
As these studies grow and more people test a number
of interesting facts are emerging. Perhaps the most important is that siblings
do not inherit equally from their grandparents; it can be quite amazingly
different. A number of my siblings have tested and the differences between us
are remarkable but well within the limits of being full siblings. In some cases
one sibling may match a cousin on more chromosomes than another sibling giving
a much rounder picture of the DNA of the most recent common ancestor.
The X-Descendant (red) set of results are male
individuals who have tested their Y DNA and have joined the study because they
have autosomal DNA results. Eventually I hope to come up with a method to
display the Family Finder results but to date I have not yet been able to discover
an interesting but anonymous way to reveal these results.
Visitation of Devon – Pincombe – 1620
(with additions) compared to earlier Visitations
The above image is of “The Visitations of the County
of Devon” 1620 with additions. Over time, I tended to mostly use this
particular copy because it appeared to be more complete than the others.
However a rather interesting change had occurred over time between this
particular Visitation and the original 1620 Visitation of Devon.
Probably the biggest change is the naming of the sons
of the original Pyncombe of Northmolton who arrived there with Lord de la
Zouche circa 1485. Of note, Lord de la Zouche was attainted after the Battle of
Bosworth Field. One could wonder if our Pyncombe ancestor was also at Bosworth
Field fighting with Richard III but to date I have not yet found anything to
collaborate that possibility. The sons in the original Visitation were listed
as Thomas (lived at Filleigh (and my ancestor), John and an unknown Pyncombe
rather than two with the forename John and one Thomas. Now the Visitation with
additions provides extra information beyond the 1620 Visitation and is rather
handy to use which is why I forgot over time that the names of the sons had
been altered.
Pincombe Line of the Editor
At the time of producing this list I am still in the
process of gathering up all the references and I am in disagreement with the
original study by the Pincombe-Pinkham one name study. A cousin of mine
checking with the Royal College was told that it was probably not possible to
separate out the descendant lines of John Pincombe and Johane Blackmoore so
that there are a couple of generations below this couple down to my ancestor
John PIncombe and Mary Charlie. However, I did transcribe the entire Bishops
Nympton Parish Registers and feel that I have been able to separate out these
lines and determine the generations between John Pincombe/Johane Blackmoore and
John Pincombe/Mary Charlie.
My ancestor Richard Pincombe at Bishops Nympton
baptized his eldest son William in 1599 but his first wife died shortly after.
He remarried and had a second family at Bishops Nympton. He did not marry his
first wife at Bishops Nympton and I have not yet found that marriage but he is
mentioned in his father’s will (William Pincombe of East Buckland) as is his
son William.
1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Helen Louise PINCOMBE
3. John Routledge PINCOMBE (b 10 Sep 1872)
4. William Robert PINCOMBE (b 11 Jun 1837) - Molland
Devon
5. John PINCOMBE (b 5 Jul 1808) - Bishops Nympton
Devon
6. Robert PINCOMBE (b 4 Oct 1775) - Bishops Nympton
Devon
7. John PINCOMBE (b 13 Feb 1728) - Bishops Nympton
Devon
8. John PNCOMBE (b 12 Jun 1692) - Bishops Nympton
Devon
9. William PINCOMBE (b 18 Oct 1656) - Bishops Nympton
Devon
10. John PINCOMBE (b 19 Jan 1622) - Bishops Nympton
Devon
11. Willyam PINCOMBE (b 23 Mar 1599) - Bishops
Nympton Devon
12. Richarde PINCOMBE (bc 1570s) - East Buckland Devon
13. Willyam PYNCOMBE (bc 1530s) - East Buckland Devon
14. Thomas PENCOMBE (bc 1500s) – North
Molton/Filleigh Devon
15. Unknown PENCOMBE/PYNCOMBE
Submissions to the Newsletter
Please feel free to submit material to the
Newsletter. I will publish the Pincombe entries in the Bishops Nympton Parish
Registers and other Registers that I have transcribed in North Devon.
Please submit the articles to: Kippeeb@rogers.com
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