I have discovered that gardening and genealogy are not really very compatible. I have been gardening a lot the last couple of months and my genealogy schedule has fallen by the way side. I decided today that I would stop working on my scheduled names until the gardening is finished in the fall.
That will mean that when I begin again August 26 with the Dumoulin which would have been my next transcription/research day in logical order for the French Canadian research of our son in law and daughter's family.
Also for my own family I will start again with the King family September 19. However, I will continue working on my Blake and Pincombe one name studies.
Lately I have been in correspondence with a Blake line that is found initially in the Somerset area, London area and then moved up into the Cumberland area and then back to the Isle of Wight. This Blake line was involved in the West Indes trade. I like it when people write to me about their Blake line because it gives me a chance to categorize groups of Blake.
A couple of weeks back I worked on one Blake line and was rewarded with a set of pictures which greatly add to any particular line. I was able to work back to a John Blake but too many of them to be sure of which line to continue back.
For my own Blake line I have not been spending too much time at the moment. I want to get back to the Abbotts Ann Registers once the Fall arrives again. It is hard to do microfiche in the summer as the light level is just too bright for too long a time generally from 4:30 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. It is nice to have the long day though because the winter days are short although not as short as in England. When my daughter and I visited in November it was already dark at 3:30 p.m.
Thursday, June 30, 2011
Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Lauzon Family marriages
The most recent Lauzon marriage was in Ontario with Ontario Registration number 016425 between Télésphore Lauzon bachelor of 19 years of age, Roman Catholic living at Sturgeon Falls and the son of Augustine Lauzon labourer and Hélèna Brunet marrying Dora Lanoie spinster of 19 years Roman Catholic living at Sturgeon Falls and the daughter of Félix Lanoie labourer and Céline Rhéaume on the 23rd day of May 1919 at Sturgeon Falls and the priest present at the ceremony was the Reverend Charles Langlois with witnesses Ajugustine Lauzon of Sturgeon Falls and Félix Lanoie also of Sturgeon Falls with registration of the marriage on the 30th of May 1910 by the Reverend Charles Langlois at Sturgeon Falls, Ontario.
The parents of Télésphore being thus identified as Augustin Lauzon and Hélène Brunet who were themselves married at Notre Dame de la Salette in Papineau 17 Sep 1889.
M 46 Augustin Lauzon et Helena Brunet
Le dix-septième jour du mois de Septembre
mil huit cent quatre vingt neuf, vu la dispense
de deux bans de mariage, par nous accordée
vu aussi la publication du troisième ban faite
au prone de nos messes paroissiales entre Augus
tin Lauzon, cultivateur de cette paroisse, fils ma
jeur de Joseph Lauzon et de Rosalie Thibaut de
cette paroisse d'une part; et Helena Brunet aus
si de cette paroisse, fille mineure de Jean Bap
tiste Brunet et de Olivine Constantineau de cette
paroisse d'autre part; ne s'étant déclaré aucun
empechement, nous soussigné curé de cette pa-
roisse, du consentement du père et de la mère de
la dite Helena Brunet, avons reçu leur mu
tuel consentement de mariage et leur avons don-
né la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Joseph
Lauzon, père de Augustin Lauzon et de
J Bte Brunet, père de Helena Brunet,
lesquels, aussi que les parties contractantes
ont déclaré ne savoir signer Etaient
aussi presents Alfred Deslauriers, Alazere Ri
cher et autres qui ont signé avec nous
Lecture faite
Alzeré Richer [signed]
Alfred Deslauriers [signed]
W.D. Richer Pretre
Augustin Lauzon son of Joseph Lauzon and Rosalie Thibaut who were themselves married 26 Nov 1860 at Buckingham.
M 20 Joseph Lauzon and Rosalie Thibaut
On the twenty sixth of November one thousand eight hun
dred and sixty, having thrice published the marriage lines of
Joseph major son of deceased Augustin Lauzon and Clemence
Chaumont of the parish of Saint Anne des Plaines of the one
part and Rosalie major daughter of Pierre Thibaut and Rosalie
Phobert of this ______ of the other part and not having un
covered any obstacles to this marriage we the under
signed Priest received the mutual consent of the
parties and gave them the nuptial benediction in presence
of Toussaint Qubinville and Charles Thibaut none of
whom could sign.
John Brady Pretre
It is perhaps a feature of the research but I had not noticed until now that the Buckingham register at this point in time was all in English. I suspect that the priest was Irish and the choice was Gaelic or English.
I will carry on with the Lauzon transcriptions the next research day.
The parents of Télésphore being thus identified as Augustin Lauzon and Hélène Brunet who were themselves married at Notre Dame de la Salette in Papineau 17 Sep 1889.
M 46 Augustin Lauzon et Helena Brunet
Le dix-septième jour du mois de Septembre
mil huit cent quatre vingt neuf, vu la dispense
de deux bans de mariage, par nous accordée
vu aussi la publication du troisième ban faite
au prone de nos messes paroissiales entre Augus
tin Lauzon, cultivateur de cette paroisse, fils ma
jeur de Joseph Lauzon et de Rosalie Thibaut de
cette paroisse d'une part; et Helena Brunet aus
si de cette paroisse, fille mineure de Jean Bap
tiste Brunet et de Olivine Constantineau de cette
paroisse d'autre part; ne s'étant déclaré aucun
empechement, nous soussigné curé de cette pa-
roisse, du consentement du père et de la mère de
la dite Helena Brunet, avons reçu leur mu
tuel consentement de mariage et leur avons don-
né la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Joseph
Lauzon, père de Augustin Lauzon et de
J Bte Brunet, père de Helena Brunet,
lesquels, aussi que les parties contractantes
ont déclaré ne savoir signer Etaient
aussi presents Alfred Deslauriers, Alazere Ri
cher et autres qui ont signé avec nous
Lecture faite
Alzeré Richer [signed]
Alfred Deslauriers [signed]
W.D. Richer Pretre
Augustin Lauzon son of Joseph Lauzon and Rosalie Thibaut who were themselves married 26 Nov 1860 at Buckingham.
M 20 Joseph Lauzon and Rosalie Thibaut
On the twenty sixth of November one thousand eight hun
dred and sixty, having thrice published the marriage lines of
Joseph major son of deceased Augustin Lauzon and Clemence
Chaumont of the parish of Saint Anne des Plaines of the one
part and Rosalie major daughter of Pierre Thibaut and Rosalie
Phobert of this ______ of the other part and not having un
covered any obstacles to this marriage we the under
signed Priest received the mutual consent of the
parties and gave them the nuptial benediction in presence
of Toussaint Qubinville and Charles Thibaut none of
whom could sign.
John Brady Pretre
It is perhaps a feature of the research but I had not noticed until now that the Buckingham register at this point in time was all in English. I suspect that the priest was Irish and the choice was Gaelic or English.
I will carry on with the Lauzon transcriptions the next research day.
Labelle family
Lucie Labelle married Joseph Delphis Tremblay 4 Aug 1879 at Grenville and the parents of Lucie Labelle were identified as François Labelle and Marcelline Lacroix who were themselves married 19 Feb 1855 at Grenville.
M 3 François Labelle et Marcelline Lacroix
Le dix neuf Fevrier mil huit cent cinquante cinq après
la publication du un ban du mariage faite au prone de nos messes
paroissiales et la dispense de deux autre bans accordé par
Rd Monsigneur O'Malley curé de cette paroisse en vertu du _____
qu'il a reçu de la Grandeau Monseigneur Guigues éveque
de Bytown entre François Labelle fils mineur d'Antoine
Labelle journalier et de Clémence Poitevin de cette
paroisse d'une part et Marcelline Lacroix
fille mineure de feu Léon Lacroix et de défunte Marguerite
Forgette Ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous pretre soussigné
délégné du consentement des parents, avons reçu leur mutuel
consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédiction
nuptiale en présence de Michel Jammé dit Lamarque
et d'Antoine Labelle parents et amis des époux qui ainsi
que les dits époux ont déclare ne savoir signer
J David Pretre
François Labelle son of AntoineLabelle and Clémence Poitevinwho were themselves married 3 Jun 1834 at Laval.
M Ant. Labelle et Clémence Potevin
L'an mil huit cent trente quatre le trois juin après la publication du
trois bans de mariage aux prones des messes paroissiales des trois Dimanches
derniers entre Antoine Labelle fils mineure de Jean Baptiste Labelle
cultivateur et de défunte Louise Legault, de Ste Rosa, d'une parte et
Clémence Potevin fille mineure de feu Philibert Potevin et de Pauline
Valiquet de cette paroisse d'autre part meme publication ayant été faite
a Ste Rosa, comme il appert par le certificat de Messir Turcotte Pretre
en date du deux du dit mois, ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement ni formé
d'opposition, Je soussigné Pretre curé de l'agréement des parens ai reçu leur
mutuel consentement de mariage et leur ai donné la bénédiction nuptiale
avec les cérémonies proscrites par la Ste
Eglise en présence de Jean Baptiste Labelle frère de
Martin Migneron Beaufrère de l'époux de Jean
Baptiste Potevin frère de Martin Chalifou beau frère
de l'épouse lesquels ont déclaré avec les époux, ne devoir signer
Mr Brunet Pretre
Antoine Labelle son of Jean Baptiste Labelle and Louise Legault who were themselves married 11 Jan 1808 at Ste Rose de Lima, Laval.
Mge de J Bte Label et de Marie Legeaux dit Délaurier
L'an mil huit cent huit le onze janvier après la publication de trois bans d'un mariage
faite au prone des messes paroissiales de Ste Rose par trois Dimanches consécu
tifs entre jean baptiste label fils majeur de feu jean baptiste label et de ma
rie josephte valiquet ses père et mère, agricultueur domicilié en cette pa
roisse d'une part et marie legeaux fille majeure de François legeaux
dit délaurier et de susanne joly ses père et mère aussi domicilieé en
cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement ni op
position quelquanque nous pretre curé de cette paroisse soussigné avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédic
tion nuptiale selon les formes proscriptes par notre mère la sainte
église catholique apostolique et Romaine et de consentement des dits
père et mère des contractants et au présence d'antoine d'a____ amiot
témoins de l'époux et de jean auimet amie et témoins de l'épouse et de plusieurs
autres parents et amis dont trois ont signé avec nous ____ce qui ainsi l'ordré
Lecture faite
bernard berdeau [signed]
Mth groyant d'amour [signed]
Luc Bélair pretre [signed]
Jean Baptiste Label son of Jean Baptiste Label and Marie Josephte Valiquet were themselves married 30 Sep 1771 at St Vincent de Paul, Laval. The priest has entered two marriages together in this section so I will transcribe both of them.
15 M François Danoyer et Louise Ouellet
16 M Jean Baptiste Label et Marie Josephte Valiquet
L'an mille sept cents soixante et onze le trente septembre apres avoir publié
trois Banes de mariage aux prones du grande messes paroissialles du _____
de part entre Jean françois denoyer veuf de déffunte geneviéve perron et marie
louise ouellet fille de louis ouelett et de marianne Qhimulaire de cette paroisse
entre Jean Baptiste Labelle fils de François Labelle et de déffunte et de
déffunte marie magdelaine vandendaigh et marie joseph valiquet fille de
déffunt augustin valiquet et de françoise chartrant aussy de cette paroisse
et ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement ny opposition soussigné curé
de cette paroisse ay reçu leur mutuel consentements de mariage et leur
ay donné la bénédiction nuptialle en présence de Jacques Paquet françois
nolla charles paquet et charles gathernan joseph vandendaighe franç label
augustin valiquet joseph alair qui ont déclaré ne savoir signé deu borgai
suivant Lord mariée
T Denoyer Pretre
Jean Baptiste Labelle son of François Labelle and of marie magdelaine vandendaigue who were themselves married 24 Nov 1738 at St François de Sales (Ile de Jesus).
I will carry on with the transcriptions of the Labelle family next research day.
M 3 François Labelle et Marcelline Lacroix
Le dix neuf Fevrier mil huit cent cinquante cinq après
la publication du un ban du mariage faite au prone de nos messes
paroissiales et la dispense de deux autre bans accordé par
Rd Monsigneur O'Malley curé de cette paroisse en vertu du _____
qu'il a reçu de la Grandeau Monseigneur Guigues éveque
de Bytown entre François Labelle fils mineur d'Antoine
Labelle journalier et de Clémence Poitevin de cette
paroisse d'une part et Marcelline Lacroix
fille mineure de feu Léon Lacroix et de défunte Marguerite
Forgette Ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement nous pretre soussigné
délégné du consentement des parents, avons reçu leur mutuel
consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédiction
nuptiale en présence de Michel Jammé dit Lamarque
et d'Antoine Labelle parents et amis des époux qui ainsi
que les dits époux ont déclare ne savoir signer
J David Pretre
François Labelle son of AntoineLabelle and Clémence Poitevinwho were themselves married 3 Jun 1834 at Laval.
M Ant. Labelle et Clémence Potevin
L'an mil huit cent trente quatre le trois juin après la publication du
trois bans de mariage aux prones des messes paroissiales des trois Dimanches
derniers entre Antoine Labelle fils mineure de Jean Baptiste Labelle
cultivateur et de défunte Louise Legault, de Ste Rosa, d'une parte et
Clémence Potevin fille mineure de feu Philibert Potevin et de Pauline
Valiquet de cette paroisse d'autre part meme publication ayant été faite
a Ste Rosa, comme il appert par le certificat de Messir Turcotte Pretre
en date du deux du dit mois, ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement ni formé
d'opposition, Je soussigné Pretre curé de l'agréement des parens ai reçu leur
mutuel consentement de mariage et leur ai donné la bénédiction nuptiale
avec les cérémonies proscrites par la Ste
Eglise en présence de Jean Baptiste Labelle frère de
Martin Migneron Beaufrère de l'époux de Jean
Baptiste Potevin frère de Martin Chalifou beau frère
de l'épouse lesquels ont déclaré avec les époux, ne devoir signer
Mr Brunet Pretre
Antoine Labelle son of Jean Baptiste Labelle and Louise Legault who were themselves married 11 Jan 1808 at Ste Rose de Lima, Laval.
Mge de J Bte Label et de Marie Legeaux dit Délaurier
L'an mil huit cent huit le onze janvier après la publication de trois bans d'un mariage
faite au prone des messes paroissiales de Ste Rose par trois Dimanches consécu
tifs entre jean baptiste label fils majeur de feu jean baptiste label et de ma
rie josephte valiquet ses père et mère, agricultueur domicilié en cette pa
roisse d'une part et marie legeaux fille majeure de François legeaux
dit délaurier et de susanne joly ses père et mère aussi domicilieé en
cette paroisse d'autre part; ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement ni op
position quelquanque nous pretre curé de cette paroisse soussigné avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédic
tion nuptiale selon les formes proscriptes par notre mère la sainte
église catholique apostolique et Romaine et de consentement des dits
père et mère des contractants et au présence d'antoine d'a____ amiot
témoins de l'époux et de jean auimet amie et témoins de l'épouse et de plusieurs
autres parents et amis dont trois ont signé avec nous ____ce qui ainsi l'ordré
Lecture faite
bernard berdeau [signed]
Mth groyant d'amour [signed]
Luc Bélair pretre [signed]
Jean Baptiste Label son of Jean Baptiste Label and Marie Josephte Valiquet were themselves married 30 Sep 1771 at St Vincent de Paul, Laval. The priest has entered two marriages together in this section so I will transcribe both of them.
15 M François Danoyer et Louise Ouellet
16 M Jean Baptiste Label et Marie Josephte Valiquet
L'an mille sept cents soixante et onze le trente septembre apres avoir publié
trois Banes de mariage aux prones du grande messes paroissialles du _____
de part entre Jean françois denoyer veuf de déffunte geneviéve perron et marie
louise ouellet fille de louis ouelett et de marianne Qhimulaire de cette paroisse
entre Jean Baptiste Labelle fils de François Labelle et de déffunte et de
déffunte marie magdelaine vandendaigh et marie joseph valiquet fille de
déffunt augustin valiquet et de françoise chartrant aussy de cette paroisse
et ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement ny opposition soussigné curé
de cette paroisse ay reçu leur mutuel consentements de mariage et leur
ay donné la bénédiction nuptialle en présence de Jacques Paquet françois
nolla charles paquet et charles gathernan joseph vandendaighe franç label
augustin valiquet joseph alair qui ont déclaré ne savoir signé deu borgai
suivant Lord mariée
T Denoyer Pretre
Jean Baptiste Labelle son of François Labelle and of marie magdelaine vandendaigue who were themselves married 24 Nov 1738 at St François de Sales (Ile de Jesus).
I will carry on with the transcriptions of the Labelle family next research day.
Monday, June 27, 2011
Will of John Roland, 6 Jun 1702
I transcribed the will of John Roland and it read about the same as my first read through. No new information on his family other than his cousin was Martha Huish. He does not identify his sister other than her forename Mary and he is remembering her child. However, put together with the other documents from the Surrey online catalogue it does prove to be quite interesting. I keep hoping to find something about my Christopher Buller (aka Christy Buller) and one of these days I suspect something will come to the forefront.
The other fascinating part of all this is that it is his own handwriting entirely. His refusal to waste money is quite fascinating as well.
Date: 27 June 2011
Document: Will
Source: The National Archives # 192
Date of document: 6 Jun 1702 (buried 23 Oct 1702, probate 10 Nov 1702)
Author: Johannis Roland
Relationship: 7x great grandfather
Location: Morden, Surrey, England
Document quality: 17th century English, bold, own handwriting
[In margin] T[esta]m[ent] Johannis Roland
1 This is the Last Will and
2 Testament of me John Roland of Moreden in the County of Surrey
3 being written off with my own hand Wherein First I commend
4 my soul into the hands of Almighty God in hope of his acceptance
5 into Glory And my body I commit to the Earth to be privately
6 yet decently buryed without any manner of pomp or ostentation by
7 my Executors herein after named where about my will is that they
8 shall not spend above the summe of thirty pounds And I doe desire
9 that my body may be layd as near to the body of my sonn John deceased
10 as may be in the Parish Church of Moredon aforesaid if I shall dye
11 at Moredon or within tenn Miles thereof otherwise where I shall
12 happen to dye I will that all my debts be justly paid And I doe
13 give and bequeath unto my cozen Martha Huish the summe of five
14 pounds and unto my sister Marys daughter the summe of three pounds
15 and tenn shillings and to the poor of the parish of Moredon aforesaid
16 the summe of forty shillings And my desire is that my loveing wife and
17 such of my daughters as shall be unmarryed at the time of my decease
18 shall live together in my house at Moredon aforesaid dureing the
19 life of my said wife or untill such daughters shall be marryed my
20 said wife maintaining such daughters But notwithstanding their
21 marriage my desire is that my wife shall live there and have the
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22 reasonable use of the furniture thereof dureing her life Yet in case
23 only that she continues herself a widdow soe long not otherwise All
24 my reall and personall Estate what soever and wheresoever whether the
25 same be in my owne name or in any other persons I give devise and
26 bequeath unto such of my daughters as shall be unmarryed at the
27 time of my decease and unto their heires Exec[utor]s Adm[inistrator]s and assignes
28 paying thereout unto such of my daughters as shall be then marryed
29 by and with my consent soe much moneys as shall amount to make
30 all such daughters portions equall as near as may be And in case
31 all my daughters be marryed I give and devise the same in manner
32 as aforesaid to such daughters only as shall be marryed by and
33 with my consent my expresse meaning being that such of my daughters
34 who shall be marryed in my life time without my consent shall have no
35 part of my reall or personall Estate And I doe make my daughters
36 Martha and Hanna Esec[utor]s of this my Will And I doe appoint my
37 good friend and neighbour Mr. Peter Batt (haveing noe Male
38 relation whatsoever of my owne family to intrust Overseer of this
39 my last Will desireing him to be assistant to my wife and Exec[utor]s in their
40 affaires and for this trouble or rather a Token of my respects to him
41 I give him two twenty shilling peices of broad Gold And I doe
42 revoke all former wills by me heretofore made And in witness
43 whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seale this sixth day of June
44 in the yeare of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and two John
45 Roland [signed] signed sealed and published as the last Will and Testament of
46 the said John Roland in the presence of us and by me subscribed in
47 his presence the same day and yeare James Braley [signed] Thomas Cope [signed]
48 Elizabeth Braley [signed]
The other fascinating part of all this is that it is his own handwriting entirely. His refusal to waste money is quite fascinating as well.
Date: 27 June 2011
Document: Will
Source: The National Archives # 192
Date of document: 6 Jun 1702 (buried 23 Oct 1702, probate 10 Nov 1702)
Author: Johannis Roland
Relationship: 7x great grandfather
Location: Morden, Surrey, England
Document quality: 17th century English, bold, own handwriting
[In margin] T[esta]m[ent] Johannis Roland
1 This is the Last Will and
2 Testament of me John Roland of Moreden in the County of Surrey
3 being written off with my own hand Wherein First I commend
4 my soul into the hands of Almighty God in hope of his acceptance
5 into Glory And my body I commit to the Earth to be privately
6 yet decently buryed without any manner of pomp or ostentation by
7 my Executors herein after named where about my will is that they
8 shall not spend above the summe of thirty pounds And I doe desire
9 that my body may be layd as near to the body of my sonn John deceased
10 as may be in the Parish Church of Moredon aforesaid if I shall dye
11 at Moredon or within tenn Miles thereof otherwise where I shall
12 happen to dye I will that all my debts be justly paid And I doe
13 give and bequeath unto my cozen Martha Huish the summe of five
14 pounds and unto my sister Marys daughter the summe of three pounds
15 and tenn shillings and to the poor of the parish of Moredon aforesaid
16 the summe of forty shillings And my desire is that my loveing wife and
17 such of my daughters as shall be unmarryed at the time of my decease
18 shall live together in my house at Moredon aforesaid dureing the
19 life of my said wife or untill such daughters shall be marryed my
20 said wife maintaining such daughters But notwithstanding their
21 marriage my desire is that my wife shall live there and have the
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22 reasonable use of the furniture thereof dureing her life Yet in case
23 only that she continues herself a widdow soe long not otherwise All
24 my reall and personall Estate what soever and wheresoever whether the
25 same be in my owne name or in any other persons I give devise and
26 bequeath unto such of my daughters as shall be unmarryed at the
27 time of my decease and unto their heires Exec[utor]s Adm[inistrator]s and assignes
28 paying thereout unto such of my daughters as shall be then marryed
29 by and with my consent soe much moneys as shall amount to make
30 all such daughters portions equall as near as may be And in case
31 all my daughters be marryed I give and devise the same in manner
32 as aforesaid to such daughters only as shall be marryed by and
33 with my consent my expresse meaning being that such of my daughters
34 who shall be marryed in my life time without my consent shall have no
35 part of my reall or personall Estate And I doe make my daughters
36 Martha and Hanna Esec[utor]s of this my Will And I doe appoint my
37 good friend and neighbour Mr. Peter Batt (haveing noe Male
38 relation whatsoever of my owne family to intrust Overseer of this
39 my last Will desireing him to be assistant to my wife and Exec[utor]s in their
40 affaires and for this trouble or rather a Token of my respects to him
41 I give him two twenty shilling peices of broad Gold And I doe
42 revoke all former wills by me heretofore made And in witness
43 whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seale this sixth day of June
44 in the yeare of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and two John
45 Roland [signed] signed sealed and published as the last Will and Testament of
46 the said John Roland in the presence of us and by me subscribed in
47 his presence the same day and yeare James Braley [signed] Thomas Cope [signed]
48 Elizabeth Braley [signed]
Sunday, June 26, 2011
Hemsley and Roland in Surrey
Continuing to check out the online catalogue for Surrey and looking at Hemsley and Roland whilst emailing back and forth with my cousin in England, the Roland/Rowland family gradually was teased out of the records. Elizabeth (my 4x great grandmother married to Henry Beard) we have concluded is the daughter of Matthew Hemsley and Mary Coal (married 14 Dec 1740 at St Mary, Newington, Southwark, Surrey) and born 16 Oct 1742 in Newington and baptized Nov 1742 at St Mary Newington. We know she married Henry Beard 31 Mar 1766 at St Mary Magdalen in Bermondsey, Surrey and was buried 22 Jul 1781 at St Mary Magdalen.
Elizabeth had three siblings: Mary baptized 23 Aug 1741 at St Mary Newington and buried by 1750 (no record found yet), George baptized 20 Jul 1744 St Mary Newington and Mary baptized 14 Feb 1750 at St Mary Newington. We also have found that Mary (Coal) Hemsley was buried 27 Apr 1753 at St Mary Newington.
The parents of Matthew appear to be John Hemsley and Martha Roland who were married 6 Feb 1704 at St Mary Le Bow London with an interesting contract developed just after the marriage:
System ID 212/74/2/1/1
SHC Reference 212/74/2
Title Lease, Release, and settlement made prior to marriage of John Hemsley and Martha Roland
1) John Hemsley of St Saviour's, Southwark, cheesemonger
2) Martha Roland of Morden, spinster, daughter of John Roland of Morden, gentleman, deceased
3) Thomas Cooke, citizen and baker of London
4) Peter Batt of Morden, yeoman.
Messuage or tenement, barn, stable, outhouses, buildings, garden and orchards, Wallis Mead of 5a, and the 2 Bushy Closes of 10a, in Morden, formerly occupied by Anne Greenewell, purchased by John Roland from Daniel Ballow of Camberwell, gentleman, fourth share in premises in Winsborough, Kent
Date 31 Jan 1705 -1 Feb 1705
Catalogue Level Item
and another in 1723
System ID 212/74/2/1/2
SHC Reference 212/74/3
Title Assignment of term of 2,000 years
1) John Jackson of Southwark, pewterer
2) John Hemsley, late of Camberwell, now of St Saviour's, Southwark, gentleman.
Wallis Mead and Bushy Closes of 15a in Morden
Date 22 Feb 1723
Catalogue Level Item
Then the following in 1745 (widow Hemsley is in the last line of the formal contract):
System ID K85/2/1/1/49
SHC Reference K85/2/51-52
Title Lease and release to make a tenant to precipe and to lead the uses of a common recovery
1) Richard Garth of Mordon alias Morden, esq
2) Edward Dickinson of St Clement Danes, Middlesex, gent
3) Walter Hargrave of St Clement Danes, gent.
Property in Morden, Merton, Mitcham Malden and Carshalton comprising:
Manor of Mordon alias Morden, advowson of Mordon, capital messuage or mansion house in Mordon alias Morden, Horslees alias Horsemead (4a) and Swine Mead (3a), grouts Mead alias the Island (3a), Rushy Mead (3a), Wormwood Yard (1a), Land planted with oziers, Great Barrells (10a), Barn Close (5a), Little Barrells (5a), all in Mordon and Merton;
Graves Farm in Mordon and lands usually demised with it: Home Close (1½a), Longmead adjoining Hobalds mead (3a), 6a adjoining Hillyfields (8a), slip (1r) between freehold close and Twyrie Land, all in Mordon;
messuage in Mordon, a little close (3a), a pightle (3a), ground between Garmans and the churchyard, Great Churchfield (12a), Little Churchfield (11a), Upper Gallows field (14a), Lower Gallows field (12½a), Gallows mead (2½a), Lower Copps and little close (6a), 4½a by Lower Gallows field, Wood Close (6a), Longhill (16a), Garmans with 1a at its lower end and ½a exchanged with William Quarrington (8½a), Great Hobalds (14½a), Hobalds Mead (9½a), Gallows Grove (6a), Langhill wood (8½a), Vicars Bush alias Copps (3a), all in Mordon;
messuage in Lower Mordon, Winters (1a), 2a by Hobalds mead Bridge, Westhaws (3a), all in Lower Morden;
messuage with Lands: Barn Close (4a) Long Close (4a), Wikefield (7½a), Suthwells (5½a) the two slips (4a), Hillyfield (6½a), all in Mordon [Morden]; messuage, the twelve acres, Meedon [close] (16½a) Little Snakeshill (2a 3r), Great Snakehill (6a), Grubbs Close (7½a), Larklease (1½a), Long Cumberstroude (3½a), Gate Close (3a) the three Acres (3a 3r), the Pightles now called the lower five acres (5a 3r), Little Cumberstroude (3a), Lower Cumberstroude (6a), Bottom Comon mead (5a) all in Mordon;
Bushy Close (8½a), 2½a adjoining Longclose (2½a) all in Mordon; messuage, pightle adjoining (1a 3r), Newberry Close (4a 1r), Little Hobald (14a), all in Mordon; Martyrs between Bowhill and Coomberstroude Ruffett, Farm on the Common of Mordon;
messuage called Noonings and 58a belonging (field names given), in Morden: messuage, pightle (½a), Winters (2½a), Paper West haws (4½a), Lower West haws (3a), 2a lying east upon Cheam Common;
messuage and farmhouse in Mordon, 12a adjoining Mead Close (5a), 6a adjoining inclosed out of the Comon Mead, Short Hill (4a), Hawkes (5r), New Orchard (2a), Hawks Mead (2a), Rale mead (4a), Hungerhill (7a), Southfields (20a), Hungerhill (5a), 1½a adjoining Pilfords Bridge, Hungerhill Ruffett (3a), Coomberstroude Rufflett alias Wood Close (5a), 15a in the lower shott in Bowhill, 7a in the upper shott in Bowhill, 4a in the upper shott between Bowhill and Coomberstroude Ruffett, Franks Farm and 1 messuage, 2½a adjoining, 9½a in Southfield adjoining, New Close (3a 3r), Great Cobshaw (5½a), Sutton Ash (2½a), 6a inclosed out of Southfield [Common], 4a at Hungerhill, Bushy Close (5a) little Spotts (7a), Great Spotts (9a 3r), Sutton Ash (8a), Cobshaws (4a 1r), Riddons (2a 3r) all in Mordon;
24½a formerly Conigree field and Merton Church field, in Merton; messuage in Stoyle street in Mordon and 1a messuage, Old Orchard (2a), five acres (6½a), New Close (9½a), Stonebridge (4½a), Cobsham (1½a), all in Mordon;
messuage and shop and one other messuage, Great Waterdons (10a) and Newberrys (4a), all in Mordon; Messuage in Lower Mordon, Mackerrell [pightle] adjoining (1a), Freehold Close (4a), Highfield and land adjoining (7a), ½a adjoining to the Common Mead, all in Lower Morden;
messuage and 5a in Churchfield in Mordon; messuage, pightle (1a), Seven Acres, the three acres, Watertons (17a), Hookleys (16a), 5a lately woodland, Watertons (17a), 15a, great Hookleys (17½a), Withy Close (7a), the five acres, Wells his pightle (1½a), Great Merton (12a 3r), all in Merton;
2 small messuages in Great Redlands, Great Redlands and little Redlands (15a), Watertons by Watertons Green (6a), Mill Mead (7a 3r), Crabtree mead (5½a), Arnolds Mead (2½a), 3 slips (9a 4r), all in Merton and Mordon and Mitcham;
Mansion House in upper Mordon, 7a adjoining New Close (7a), Malthaws (8a), Hilly Close (8a), the Little Mead (1a), the four acres, Chaulwood Close (4a), Pond or Brick Close (4a), Longmead (4a), Stonebridge Close (4a), Six Acres Close, Pightle (2½a), Gildenhill (5a) Hobald 178a (field names given);
messuage and 16a in Mordon; ground occupied by Widow Hemsley in Mordon; ½a in Boxwells all other real property of R Garth in Mordon, Mitcham, Merton, Maldon [Malden] and Carshalton devised by will, 15 May 1697
Date 6-7 Jun 1745
Catalogue Level Item
The Parish Registers of Morden provide a few interesting memorials:
On a white marble tablet in the recess of the second window :
40. Near this place lyeth interr'd the body of John Roland,
Gent., late of this parish who departed this life the 18th
day of October Anno Domini 1700, in the 58th year of his
age. Also the body of John Roland son of the said John
Roland and Elizabeth his wife who departed this life the
14th day of November Anno Domini 1691 in the 17th
year of his age. Likewise the body of Thomas Roland
son of the said John and Elizabeth Roland who dyed an
Infant. Also Rowland Hemsley who died July y
e 30th
aged 33.
Arms.—able, a pile wavy Argent.
Crest.—n eagle with a ball.
The coat of arms/crest mentioned above also appear in the Visitation of the Rowland family which is rather interesting as well. I pulled all the children out of the Morden register for the Roland family living there and includes Martha Roland who married John Hemsley.
John bc 1674 buried 21 Nov 1691 at Morden (17 years of age)
Rebekah baptized 29 Sep 1676 at Morden
Martha baptized 20 Dec 1677 at Morden
Hannah baptized 4 Apr 1679 at Morden buried 13 Apr 1704 at Morden
Thomas baptized 15 Oct 1680 at Morden buried 17 Oct 1680 at Morden
Jane baptized 23 Jul 1682 at Morden
I also downloaded the will of John Roland (father of Martha) and Martha was named as one of his executors along with Hannah in 1702.
Since there was a Rowland Hemsley mentioned on their tablet was this a son of Martha married to John Hemsley? Rowland was 33 when he was buried 3 Aug 1746 (died 30 Jul 1746 age 33 years). He would have been born circa 1713.
The children I have currently for Martha and John Hemsley (married 6 Feb 1704):
Matthew
Martha baptized 28 Jun 1709 St Saviour Brixton
John Roland baptized 3 Apr 1711 St Saviour Brixton
Susanna baptized 17 Sep 1712 St Saviour Brixton
The Registers of St Saviour Brixton are held at the London Metropolitan Archives and that is a trip for another time.
Although I find the connection from John Hemsley/Martha Roland to Matthew to Elizabeth Hemsley tentative it is quite fascinating to look at it and verifying the truth of this relationship will be a future item. I did purchase John Roland's will and will put the transcription up online in the near future. However, I think I will wait to buy the wills of Hannah Roland and Elizabeth Roland (mother) to a later date. If I am not related, I do not want to spend a lot of time researching individual lines without the linkage proven.
Saturday, June 25, 2011
Surrey Catalogue online
A marvelous new online tool for those researching their Surrey, UK ancestry can be found at:
http://www.surreyarchives.org.uk/Calmview/
Of course, I immediately had to put in Christopher Buller because he remains my brick wall in this particular part of England. Christopher was my 3x great grandfather married to Mary Beard (marriage not yet found but given the nature of this family it was probably at a peculiar). I know so much about Christopher in some ways but absolutely no idea of his parent's names. I know that he was a slop dealer/maker/cutter whose place of work was on Tooley Street in Bermondsey, Surrey. I know that he was buried 13 May 1832 at St Olave Bermondsey (as was his first wife Mary Beard, his two children who died as infants). St Olave Church was torn down in 1830 to make room for the approaches to London Bridge so that it remains somewhat a confusion in my mind as to how he was buried in 1832 at St Olave but I need to have a look at the records at London Metropolitan Archives one of these days. His age was given as 69 years giving me an estimate date of birth of 1763. Given that his wife, infant children and himself were all buried at St Olave I suspect he might have been baptized there and his parents belonged to this Church but the records are not on ancestry so must await my next visit to London. I was tempted this past trip to go to LMA but I knew that I would spend an entire day there (I would never have been able to go in just for a peek there is too much information there that I would like to look at :) ). We wanted to walk London and Westminster and Greenwich and that was our priority and I am so glad that we did do that. LMA can wait for another time.
However, back to the Surrey records coming up online. My cousin Robin Beard and I carry on a correspondence often separated by months as we go about our busy lives. But my discovery of this morming has resulted in my sending a lengthy email about our mutual Hemsley ancestors because I found a record that likely verifies the thought that Matthew Hemsley (father of my Elizabeth Hemsley) was the son of John Hemsley and Martha Roland who married 6 Feb 1704 at St Mary Le Bow with John Hemsley being a cheesemonger at St Saviour Southwark. This information has been the result of a lot of reading of parish registers as we pieced together the story of Elizabeth Hemsley (first wife of Henry Beard and my 4x great grandparents). Christopher Buller had married their daughter Mary Beard with their son Henry Christopher Buller (my 2x great grandfather) and his son Edwin Denner Buller being my great grandfather. I have spent an amazing amount of time on the Buller family line trying to discover the parents of Christopher.
The searching of the records for Tooley Street led me to a David Griffin who was a sailmaker on Tooley Street in the 1760s to 1770s which is somewhat fascinating as sails do not seem that far from sailor uniforms (slops). Another lead perhaps; a Griffin marrying a Buller perhaps and I shall track down another possible lead to see if I can solve this mystery. Likely it would be quickly solved if I was on the spot at London Metropolitan Archives and I look forward to that on my next visit. Next time I shall spend 1 day at Kew and 1 day at LMA. If I do not go with that thought in mind I would spend weeks there :)
Standing on Tooley Street near to where my Christopher Buller lived and worked was an exhilarating experience and one I highly recommend. Walking down Tooley Street and heading towards Bermondsey Street was walking the walk that he had likely taken thousands of times in his life. He and Mary had attended St Mary Magdalen on Bermondsey Street. Walking down Long Lane back to our hotel took on the feeling of history for me as well because Christopher eventually lived on Long Lane as found in the will of Jane Beard (stepmother to my Mary). This family moved at least three times whilst Mary was alive and I always wonder was it to accommodate the growing family - I suppose so.
Back to searching on the Surrey Catalogue and checking out all the possible leads that might help me to find Christopher Buller's parents. But also Henry Beard's family line may also be searchable in this database as Henry was a Tanner at Bermondsey and possibly the son of Edward Beard. I continue to search out information on this family and that will be my next search item for this database.
http://www.surreyarchives.org.uk/Calmview/
Of course, I immediately had to put in Christopher Buller because he remains my brick wall in this particular part of England. Christopher was my 3x great grandfather married to Mary Beard (marriage not yet found but given the nature of this family it was probably at a peculiar). I know so much about Christopher in some ways but absolutely no idea of his parent's names. I know that he was a slop dealer/maker/cutter whose place of work was on Tooley Street in Bermondsey, Surrey. I know that he was buried 13 May 1832 at St Olave Bermondsey (as was his first wife Mary Beard, his two children who died as infants). St Olave Church was torn down in 1830 to make room for the approaches to London Bridge so that it remains somewhat a confusion in my mind as to how he was buried in 1832 at St Olave but I need to have a look at the records at London Metropolitan Archives one of these days. His age was given as 69 years giving me an estimate date of birth of 1763. Given that his wife, infant children and himself were all buried at St Olave I suspect he might have been baptized there and his parents belonged to this Church but the records are not on ancestry so must await my next visit to London. I was tempted this past trip to go to LMA but I knew that I would spend an entire day there (I would never have been able to go in just for a peek there is too much information there that I would like to look at :) ). We wanted to walk London and Westminster and Greenwich and that was our priority and I am so glad that we did do that. LMA can wait for another time.
However, back to the Surrey records coming up online. My cousin Robin Beard and I carry on a correspondence often separated by months as we go about our busy lives. But my discovery of this morming has resulted in my sending a lengthy email about our mutual Hemsley ancestors because I found a record that likely verifies the thought that Matthew Hemsley (father of my Elizabeth Hemsley) was the son of John Hemsley and Martha Roland who married 6 Feb 1704 at St Mary Le Bow with John Hemsley being a cheesemonger at St Saviour Southwark. This information has been the result of a lot of reading of parish registers as we pieced together the story of Elizabeth Hemsley (first wife of Henry Beard and my 4x great grandparents). Christopher Buller had married their daughter Mary Beard with their son Henry Christopher Buller (my 2x great grandfather) and his son Edwin Denner Buller being my great grandfather. I have spent an amazing amount of time on the Buller family line trying to discover the parents of Christopher.
The searching of the records for Tooley Street led me to a David Griffin who was a sailmaker on Tooley Street in the 1760s to 1770s which is somewhat fascinating as sails do not seem that far from sailor uniforms (slops). Another lead perhaps; a Griffin marrying a Buller perhaps and I shall track down another possible lead to see if I can solve this mystery. Likely it would be quickly solved if I was on the spot at London Metropolitan Archives and I look forward to that on my next visit. Next time I shall spend 1 day at Kew and 1 day at LMA. If I do not go with that thought in mind I would spend weeks there :)
Standing on Tooley Street near to where my Christopher Buller lived and worked was an exhilarating experience and one I highly recommend. Walking down Tooley Street and heading towards Bermondsey Street was walking the walk that he had likely taken thousands of times in his life. He and Mary had attended St Mary Magdalen on Bermondsey Street. Walking down Long Lane back to our hotel took on the feeling of history for me as well because Christopher eventually lived on Long Lane as found in the will of Jane Beard (stepmother to my Mary). This family moved at least three times whilst Mary was alive and I always wonder was it to accommodate the growing family - I suppose so.
Back to searching on the Surrey Catalogue and checking out all the possible leads that might help me to find Christopher Buller's parents. But also Henry Beard's family line may also be searchable in this database as Henry was a Tanner at Bermondsey and possibly the son of Edward Beard. I continue to search out information on this family and that will be my next search item for this database.
Wednesday, June 22, 2011
Newspapers and genealogy
Last evening at the Annual Meeting of the Ottawa Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society John Reid gave an excellent talk on newspapers - what you might find in them and where to find them here in Canada. I have to absolutely agree with him that you find all sorts of nuggets in the newspapers. For my three only Canadian born ancestors (my mother, her father and his mother) I have uncovered some very interesting items just to add to the overall picture of them in particular my grandfather as he died when my mother was only eight years old. I heard a lot of stories about him as a child and when one is painted as the "black sheep" of the family it does stir your interest. I had expected to find items to prove the story but in all actuality every time I dug a little deeper I uncovered the story of a man surrounded by tragedy - by the time he was fourteen years old his mother had died, his younger sister had died, his younger brother had died and all of his beloved grandparents. He did have a lot of first cousins and this must have been very supportive for him but still the heavy feeling of death at such a young age must have affected him deeply.
On the other hand, whilst reading The Times I discovered the likely reason for my Pincombe family emigrating from Devon UK to Westminster Twp, Middlesex County, Canada West in 20 November 1850 arriving at the Port of New York 7 January 1851. My 2x great grandfather John Pincombe (the emigrant) and his seven siblings were all orphaned by 1827 when their father Robert died (their mother Elizabeth had died in 1823). Their father had provided for them but land that had been held as copyhold passed to his younger brother Thomas or his older brothers John and William as that was the terms of the copyhold agreement. Robert had acquired freeholds though and was able to provide for his children. The oldest brother John had never married but did accept that Mary Pincombe Thorne was his child by Ann Smaldon. In the mar quarter of 1843 Mary Pincombe Thorne married William Smith at Ringwood Hampshire and hence her name was then Mary Smith just to tie in with the published accounts.
When John died in 1838 he left a small legacy in terms of a piece of property to Mary Smith and he had written a new will in order to add this legacy. There was however an earlier will. His brothers (William and Thomas) decided to conceal the later will and produced only the earlier will (they were executors for both). Mary had been told by John that he would give her this piece of property and so Mary took the brothers to court. This was the item that I found in the Times and indeed there were four articles describing how the brothers had actually managed to convince the court that there hadn't been an earlier will and the decision was given in their favour. In their "generosity" they took Mary out to dinner but they drank too much revealed to Mary that there had been a later will and that she was entitled to the property. With her husband's assistance, Mary then returned to the court and the brothers had to own up to the existence of the other will. They were fined and the land awarded to Mary. Although this had absolutely nothing to do with my Pincombe line I have a strong suspicion that it may have been one of the reasons that they sold their land and came to Canada. Also the eldest son of Robert Pincombe (older brother to my John Pincombe) had already emigrated to the United States having sold the freehold which was left to him by his father. Certainly family lore said that he had encouraged his siblings to come although they all chose to come to Canada instead of the United States.
Robert Pincombe's descendants still live in the Shawnee Kansas area and they were in contact with my Pincombe line into the 1920s although contact now has been lost. Newspapers can be very revealing and help you to piece together parts of the lives of your ancestors. My Pincombe family was written up in the London, Ontario newspaper a number of times which has also added to my knowledge of the family. I was also lucky as a child growing up to hear many stories of my emigrating ancestors; indeed I know all of their emigration stories but then I only have five sets of emigrant ancestors: Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Routledge were my first emigrants (3x great grandparents) along with their 14 year old daughter Mary arriving in 1818; Robert Gray coming with his brother William c 1832; John Pincombe and Elizabeth Rew along with their 14 year old son William Robert in 1850/51; Ellen Rosina Buller in 1908 (along with her sisters), and Samuel Blake and Edith Bessie Taylor along with their 9 year old son Ernest Edward George Blake (my father and his parents).
Indeed John was so very accurate in pinpointing the many reasons to look at newspapers other than BMD information.
With my husband still needing a lot of help on my part, my blog has suffered dreadfully. However, I think all the gardening is good for me. I am not really a plant person but it is interesting figuring out what is a weed and what is plant to be retained. My hoeing is coming along slowly but I can manage the lawn mower fairly well. We have a large lot to cut which can occupy a large piece of a morning.
The Blake family group for Theophilus Blake has now produced an amendment to our article in Anglo Celtic Roots which I have now sent in for approval for the next issue of the journal. It is very interesting to see this rather large group of people (around a dozen) working together to solve the mystery of different haplogroups for what appeared to be two families both from the same area of Norfolk. In reality the story has now been developed around the proofs which were there but not seen by everyone so that a misunderstanding arose concerning his ancestry which is resolved. The next step is to write an article for The American Genealogist. I was hoping that one of the more "famous" genealogy writers might pick this up and run with it but it doesn't appear to be happening so I shall soon start to write the article with the available proofs. With a dozen authors it should make interesting reading as we develop it together.
I continue working on the marriages in the Blake family. It is an ongoing process and one that I have the highest priority on for my one name study. I need to know all the Blake families from 1837 on in the different areas before I can move back into the Parish Registers.
On the other hand, whilst reading The Times I discovered the likely reason for my Pincombe family emigrating from Devon UK to Westminster Twp, Middlesex County, Canada West in 20 November 1850 arriving at the Port of New York 7 January 1851. My 2x great grandfather John Pincombe (the emigrant) and his seven siblings were all orphaned by 1827 when their father Robert died (their mother Elizabeth had died in 1823). Their father had provided for them but land that had been held as copyhold passed to his younger brother Thomas or his older brothers John and William as that was the terms of the copyhold agreement. Robert had acquired freeholds though and was able to provide for his children. The oldest brother John had never married but did accept that Mary Pincombe Thorne was his child by Ann Smaldon. In the mar quarter of 1843 Mary Pincombe Thorne married William Smith at Ringwood Hampshire and hence her name was then Mary Smith just to tie in with the published accounts.
When John died in 1838 he left a small legacy in terms of a piece of property to Mary Smith and he had written a new will in order to add this legacy. There was however an earlier will. His brothers (William and Thomas) decided to conceal the later will and produced only the earlier will (they were executors for both). Mary had been told by John that he would give her this piece of property and so Mary took the brothers to court. This was the item that I found in the Times and indeed there were four articles describing how the brothers had actually managed to convince the court that there hadn't been an earlier will and the decision was given in their favour. In their "generosity" they took Mary out to dinner but they drank too much revealed to Mary that there had been a later will and that she was entitled to the property. With her husband's assistance, Mary then returned to the court and the brothers had to own up to the existence of the other will. They were fined and the land awarded to Mary. Although this had absolutely nothing to do with my Pincombe line I have a strong suspicion that it may have been one of the reasons that they sold their land and came to Canada. Also the eldest son of Robert Pincombe (older brother to my John Pincombe) had already emigrated to the United States having sold the freehold which was left to him by his father. Certainly family lore said that he had encouraged his siblings to come although they all chose to come to Canada instead of the United States.
Robert Pincombe's descendants still live in the Shawnee Kansas area and they were in contact with my Pincombe line into the 1920s although contact now has been lost. Newspapers can be very revealing and help you to piece together parts of the lives of your ancestors. My Pincombe family was written up in the London, Ontario newspaper a number of times which has also added to my knowledge of the family. I was also lucky as a child growing up to hear many stories of my emigrating ancestors; indeed I know all of their emigration stories but then I only have five sets of emigrant ancestors: Thomas Routledge and Elizabeth Routledge were my first emigrants (3x great grandparents) along with their 14 year old daughter Mary arriving in 1818; Robert Gray coming with his brother William c 1832; John Pincombe and Elizabeth Rew along with their 14 year old son William Robert in 1850/51; Ellen Rosina Buller in 1908 (along with her sisters), and Samuel Blake and Edith Bessie Taylor along with their 9 year old son Ernest Edward George Blake (my father and his parents).
Indeed John was so very accurate in pinpointing the many reasons to look at newspapers other than BMD information.
With my husband still needing a lot of help on my part, my blog has suffered dreadfully. However, I think all the gardening is good for me. I am not really a plant person but it is interesting figuring out what is a weed and what is plant to be retained. My hoeing is coming along slowly but I can manage the lawn mower fairly well. We have a large lot to cut which can occupy a large piece of a morning.
The Blake family group for Theophilus Blake has now produced an amendment to our article in Anglo Celtic Roots which I have now sent in for approval for the next issue of the journal. It is very interesting to see this rather large group of people (around a dozen) working together to solve the mystery of different haplogroups for what appeared to be two families both from the same area of Norfolk. In reality the story has now been developed around the proofs which were there but not seen by everyone so that a misunderstanding arose concerning his ancestry which is resolved. The next step is to write an article for The American Genealogist. I was hoping that one of the more "famous" genealogy writers might pick this up and run with it but it doesn't appear to be happening so I shall soon start to write the article with the available proofs. With a dozen authors it should make interesting reading as we develop it together.
I continue working on the marriages in the Blake family. It is an ongoing process and one that I have the highest priority on for my one name study. I need to know all the Blake families from 1837 on in the different areas before I can move back into the Parish Registers.
Tremblay family
The Tremblay family has been separated into generations and I will review the transcriptions done the last research day which was 4 May 2011 and make any necessary corrections or changes that I can do at this time and then carry on with further transcriptions for this post.
The marriage of Lucien Tremblay and Marie Bernard transcription review led to an interesting revelation with the bride's cousin Louis Blondin dit _uce appearing to be an important part of the marriage lines. I am somewhat stumped with the Blondin family line and this may prove to be helpful when I work on that line.
The parents of Lucien Tremblay were thus identified as Michel Tremblay and Ursule Gagnon who were themselves married 4 Jun 1793 at Baie St Paul.
Mariage de Michel Tremblay et Ursule Gagnon
Le quatre de juin mil sept cent quatre vingt treize
après la publication de trois bans de Mariage faite
aux prones de nos messes paroissiales par trois dimanches
consecutifs Entre Michel Tremblay fils de Louis
Marie Tremblay et de défunte Marie Anne Victoire
girard ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'une part et Ursu
le gagnon fille de feu joseph gagnon et de Marie Symard
ses pere et mere aussi de cette paroisse d'autre part, ne s'étant
trouvé aucun _____ empechement quelq__que au dit
s'écrit a lui de trois consaingaint et du quatro au quatro de
consangaint dont le parti ont obtenu dispense de Mon
signeur Jean François harbert Evecque de Québec en de cette
de _______dania _______
____ nous curé soussigné avons reçu leur mutuel consente
ment et leur avons donné la Bénédiction nuptiale selon
le forme proscrit par notre mere la Ste Eglise et ce ____
a du coté de l'époux de Louis Marie Tremblay par
de Louis Marie Tremblay frere et de Louis Charles
Tremblay cousin de l'époux, et en présence du ____
de l'épouse de godfroy Symard Lambrette ____
___ de Philémon Pilotte Beaupere et de Joseph
Lambertte oncle et en présence de plusieurs autres
parents et amis de l'époux et de l'épouse ____
ont déclaré ne savoir signer ainsi que l'époux et l'
épouse le St Jean Nerone ____ ayant signé
avec hous dit ____ aprèes lecture faite re___
suivant l'ordonnance
Jean Nerone [signed]
H L Chevrier Pretre
The parents of Michel Tremblay being thus identified as Louis Marie Tremblay and Marie Anne Victoire Girard who were themselves married 12 Jan 1757 at Baie St Paul.
Mariage Louis Marie Tremblay et Marie Anne Victoire Girard le douze janvier 1757
L'an mil sept cent cinquième sept le douze janvier après la
publication des trois bans de mariage _____ dimanches consec
utifs entre louis marie tremblay fils de feu nicolas tremblay
et de louise symard ses pere et mere de la paroisse de notre dame
des eboulements d'une part et Marie anne victoire girard fille de pierre
girard et de Marie Anne Vezinat ses pere et mere de cette paroisse
[to be continued]
The marriage of Lucien Tremblay and Marie Bernard transcription review led to an interesting revelation with the bride's cousin Louis Blondin dit _uce appearing to be an important part of the marriage lines. I am somewhat stumped with the Blondin family line and this may prove to be helpful when I work on that line.
The parents of Lucien Tremblay were thus identified as Michel Tremblay and Ursule Gagnon who were themselves married 4 Jun 1793 at Baie St Paul.
Mariage de Michel Tremblay et Ursule Gagnon
Le quatre de juin mil sept cent quatre vingt treize
après la publication de trois bans de Mariage faite
aux prones de nos messes paroissiales par trois dimanches
consecutifs Entre Michel Tremblay fils de Louis
Marie Tremblay et de défunte Marie Anne Victoire
girard ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'une part et Ursu
le gagnon fille de feu joseph gagnon et de Marie Symard
ses pere et mere aussi de cette paroisse d'autre part, ne s'étant
trouvé aucun _____ empechement quelq__que au dit
s'écrit a lui de trois consaingaint et du quatro au quatro de
consangaint dont le parti ont obtenu dispense de Mon
signeur Jean François harbert Evecque de Québec en de cette
de _______dania _______
____ nous curé soussigné avons reçu leur mutuel consente
ment et leur avons donné la Bénédiction nuptiale selon
le forme proscrit par notre mere la Ste Eglise et ce ____
a du coté de l'époux de Louis Marie Tremblay par
de Louis Marie Tremblay frere et de Louis Charles
Tremblay cousin de l'époux, et en présence du ____
de l'épouse de godfroy Symard Lambrette ____
___ de Philémon Pilotte Beaupere et de Joseph
Lambertte oncle et en présence de plusieurs autres
parents et amis de l'époux et de l'épouse ____
ont déclaré ne savoir signer ainsi que l'époux et l'
épouse le St Jean Nerone ____ ayant signé
avec hous dit ____ aprèes lecture faite re___
suivant l'ordonnance
Jean Nerone [signed]
H L Chevrier Pretre
The parents of Michel Tremblay being thus identified as Louis Marie Tremblay and Marie Anne Victoire Girard who were themselves married 12 Jan 1757 at Baie St Paul.
Mariage Louis Marie Tremblay et Marie Anne Victoire Girard le douze janvier 1757
L'an mil sept cent cinquième sept le douze janvier après la
publication des trois bans de mariage _____ dimanches consec
utifs entre louis marie tremblay fils de feu nicolas tremblay
et de louise symard ses pere et mere de la paroisse de notre dame
des eboulements d'une part et Marie anne victoire girard fille de pierre
girard et de Marie Anne Vezinat ses pere et mere de cette paroisse
[to be continued]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Séguin dit Ladéroute Family
Rosa de Lima Séguin dite Ladéroute married Antoine Grégoire 30 Aug 1869 at Basilica de Notre Dame, Ottawa and her parents were identified as Antoine Séguin dit Ladéroute and Marie-Anne Groux who were themselves married 21 Jul 1851 also at Basilica de Notre Dame, Ottawa.
M 31 Antoine Ladéroute et Marianne Groux
Le vingt-un juillet mil huit cent cinquante-un
dispense de deux bans accordé et publication un fois fait
d'une paroisse de mariage entre Antoine Ladéroute, de Bytown,
fils majeur de Joseph Ladéroute et de Françoise de Chantale
Brabant, d'une part, et Marianne Groux, de Bytown, fille
majeure de Louis Groux et de Marie-Anne Lafantasie
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement, nous
prete soussigné, curé de Bytown, avons reçu le mutuel consente
ment des parties contractantet et leur avons donné la bénédic
tion nuptiale, en présence de Jean Baptiste Foubert, de
Edouard Robillard et autres, Antoine Pérault, Rosalie
Barthiaume.
D Dandurand Pretre
The parents of Antoine Ladéroute being thus identified as Joseph Ladéroute and Françoise de Chantal Brabant who were themselves married 10 Jan 1803 at Oka (Deux Montagnes).
M Jos. Séguin et Jeanne Brabant
L'an mil huit cent trois le dix janvier après
la publication de trois bans nous soussigné _____
j'ai donné la bénédiction nuptiale a Joseph
Séguin fils maueur hyacinte Séguin cap ______
et de Susanne Leger de le paroisse _____ et a Jeanne
braban fille mineure de louis braban et défunte
catherine touranjeau aprés avoir reçu leur consente
ment mutuel en présence de jean _____
touranjeau grandpere de l;épouse et
charles braban oncle de l'épouse d'
antoine touranjeau, louis braban _____ de
l'époux, _____Seguin frere de l'époux et
Guillaume Seguin les quels ont ___déclare ne la voir
l'époux _____
signe avec nous
____ Barbart [signed]
Lacoste Pretre
The parents of Joseph Séguin dit Ladéroute being thus identified Hyacinte Séguin et Susanne Léger who were themselves married 26 Feb 1770 Pointe-Claire (Montréal).
M Hiacinte Séguin et Suzanne Léger
La publication de deux bans faite par dex dimanches consecutifs
au prone de la messe paroissials entre hiacinte Séguin veuf de
M Elizabeth Brabant, fils de feu Louis Séguin dit Ladéroute et de
Marianne Raizenne Ses pere et mere de la paroisse de Soulange
d'une part, et susanne Léger fille de charles Léger dit parisien et de
Françoise leduc ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part
(et semblable publication ayant été faite d'autre paroisse de Sou
lange comme il ____ app___ par le Certificant de Monsiegneur denault curé
missionaire d'écolle costa entre nos mains) sans avoir découvert
aucun empechement ni opposition, je soussigné ayant reçu
leur mutuel consentement de présent mariage Nous ay donné
la bénédiction nuptiale (non obstrant la defaut de la publication
d'une ban dont les deux parties ont obtenu dispense de ____
Montgoltier grand vicaire de ce diocese no_______ mains
en présence de françois seguin frere, hiacinte germain beau
frere de l'époux qui a signé dud. charles leger pere et
Rene Leduc oncle de l'épouse qui n'ont su signer de la
_______
germaint andre germain [signed]
antoine lalonde [signed]
Sartalon Pretre
The parents of Hyacinthe being thus identified as Louis Séguin dit Ladéroute and Marie Anne Raizenne who were themselves married 8 Apr 1736 at Oka. This marriage is found in Tanguay although the date is not recorded. I have not yet found the marriage but this is the date generally used for this marriage. The parents of Louis Séguin were identified as Jean Baptiste Séguin and Geneviève Barbeau who were themselves married 7 Jun 1710 at Boucherville. The parents of Jean Baptiste Séguin are identified as François Séguin and Françoise Jeanne Petit and they were married 31 Oct 1672 at Boucherville. François was the emigrant and so Generation 1. The present family is descended from three children of François Séguin and Jeanne Petit. Jean Petit was a Fille des Roi.
Jean Baptiste Séguin married to Geneviève Barbeau is Generation 2. His brother Pierre Séguin married to Marie Barbe Filion 4 Feb 1704 at Boucherville is Generation 2. Their daughter Françoise Séguin married to Antoine Vermet 17 Apr 1730 at St François (ile de Jesus) is Generation 3. His sister Françoise Séguin married Charles Patenotre 8 Feb 1694 at Montréal and is Generation 2.
Louis Séguin (son of Jean Baptiste) married to Marie Anne Raizenne is Generation 3. This generation is descended from two other sons of Jean Baptiste namely Jean Baptiste Séguin dit Ladéroute who married Catherine Raizenne and is Generation 3. The daughter of this Jean Baptiste and Catherine was Elisabeth Séguin dite Ladéroute and she married Antoine Quesnel 15 Nov 17612 at Lac des Deux Montagnes and is Generation 4. Pierre Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Jean Baptiste) married Marie Josephte Mallet 3 Feb 1739 at Ste Anne de Bellevue (Montréal) and is Generation 3. The daughter of Pierre and Marie Josephte was Marie Geneviève Séguin dite Ladéroute and she married Jean Noel Tourangeau and is Generation 4.
Hyacinthe Pascal Séguin dit Ladéroute married Marie Elizabeth Brabant 16 Nov 1761 at Ste Anne de Bellevue (Montréal) and is Generation 4. Hyacinthe also married Suzanne Léger and is Generation 4. This generation is also descended from the sister of Hyacinthe Marie Catherine Séguin who married Captain Françoise Villeneuve 18 Aug 1783 at Oka and is Generation 4.
Joseph Athanase Séguin (son of Hyacinthe and Suzanne) married to Jeanne Françoise de Chantale Brabant is Generation 5. Hyacinthe Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Hyacinthe and Marie Elizabeth) married to Marie Louise Rouleau 7 Feb 1785 at Vaudreuil is Generation 5.
Antoine Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Joseph and Jeanne Françoise) married to Marie Anne Groux is Generation 6. Hyacinthe Séguin (son of Hyacinthe and Marie Louise Rouleau) married to Marie Monique Villeneuve 16 Apr 1812 at Vaudreuil is Generation 6. Their daughter Antoinette Séguin married to Julien Vital Bertrand 7 Feb 1842 at L'Original is Generation 7.
Rosa de Lima Séguin dit Ladéroute (daughter of Antoine and Marie Anne) married to Antoine Grégoire is Generation 8.
A very complicated descendancy for the Séguin dit Ladéroute family of the present generation and I will continue to transcribe documents on future research days. The present family is also descended from the emigrant Jacques Séguin married to Marie Badel 28 Nov 1689 at Montréal (son of Jean Séguin married to Marguerite Dupuis in France) and Jacques is Generation 1. Their daughter Barbé Charlotte Séguin married to Pierre Sabourin 23 Nov 1716 at Montréal is Generation 2.
M 31 Antoine Ladéroute et Marianne Groux
Le vingt-un juillet mil huit cent cinquante-un
dispense de deux bans accordé et publication un fois fait
d'une paroisse de mariage entre Antoine Ladéroute, de Bytown,
fils majeur de Joseph Ladéroute et de Françoise de Chantale
Brabant, d'une part, et Marianne Groux, de Bytown, fille
majeure de Louis Groux et de Marie-Anne Lafantasie
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empechement, nous
prete soussigné, curé de Bytown, avons reçu le mutuel consente
ment des parties contractantet et leur avons donné la bénédic
tion nuptiale, en présence de Jean Baptiste Foubert, de
Edouard Robillard et autres, Antoine Pérault, Rosalie
Barthiaume.
D Dandurand Pretre
The parents of Antoine Ladéroute being thus identified as Joseph Ladéroute and Françoise de Chantal Brabant who were themselves married 10 Jan 1803 at Oka (Deux Montagnes).
M Jos. Séguin et Jeanne Brabant
L'an mil huit cent trois le dix janvier après
la publication de trois bans nous soussigné _____
j'ai donné la bénédiction nuptiale a Joseph
Séguin fils maueur hyacinte Séguin cap ______
et de Susanne Leger de le paroisse _____ et a Jeanne
braban fille mineure de louis braban et défunte
catherine touranjeau aprés avoir reçu leur consente
ment mutuel en présence de jean _____
touranjeau grandpere de l;épouse et
charles braban oncle de l'épouse d'
antoine touranjeau, louis braban _____ de
l'époux, _____Seguin frere de l'époux et
Guillaume Seguin les quels ont ___déclare ne la voir
l'époux _____
signe avec nous
____ Barbart [signed]
Lacoste Pretre
The parents of Joseph Séguin dit Ladéroute being thus identified Hyacinte Séguin et Susanne Léger who were themselves married 26 Feb 1770 Pointe-Claire (Montréal).
M Hiacinte Séguin et Suzanne Léger
La publication de deux bans faite par dex dimanches consecutifs
au prone de la messe paroissials entre hiacinte Séguin veuf de
M Elizabeth Brabant, fils de feu Louis Séguin dit Ladéroute et de
Marianne Raizenne Ses pere et mere de la paroisse de Soulange
d'une part, et susanne Léger fille de charles Léger dit parisien et de
Françoise leduc ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part
(et semblable publication ayant été faite d'autre paroisse de Sou
lange comme il ____ app___ par le Certificant de Monsiegneur denault curé
missionaire d'écolle costa entre nos mains) sans avoir découvert
aucun empechement ni opposition, je soussigné ayant reçu
leur mutuel consentement de présent mariage Nous ay donné
la bénédiction nuptiale (non obstrant la defaut de la publication
d'une ban dont les deux parties ont obtenu dispense de ____
Montgoltier grand vicaire de ce diocese no_______ mains
en présence de françois seguin frere, hiacinte germain beau
frere de l'époux qui a signé dud. charles leger pere et
Rene Leduc oncle de l'épouse qui n'ont su signer de la
_______
germaint andre germain [signed]
antoine lalonde [signed]
Sartalon Pretre
The parents of Hyacinthe being thus identified as Louis Séguin dit Ladéroute and Marie Anne Raizenne who were themselves married 8 Apr 1736 at Oka. This marriage is found in Tanguay although the date is not recorded. I have not yet found the marriage but this is the date generally used for this marriage. The parents of Louis Séguin were identified as Jean Baptiste Séguin and Geneviève Barbeau who were themselves married 7 Jun 1710 at Boucherville. The parents of Jean Baptiste Séguin are identified as François Séguin and Françoise Jeanne Petit and they were married 31 Oct 1672 at Boucherville. François was the emigrant and so Generation 1. The present family is descended from three children of François Séguin and Jeanne Petit. Jean Petit was a Fille des Roi.
Jean Baptiste Séguin married to Geneviève Barbeau is Generation 2. His brother Pierre Séguin married to Marie Barbe Filion 4 Feb 1704 at Boucherville is Generation 2. Their daughter Françoise Séguin married to Antoine Vermet 17 Apr 1730 at St François (ile de Jesus) is Generation 3. His sister Françoise Séguin married Charles Patenotre 8 Feb 1694 at Montréal and is Generation 2.
Louis Séguin (son of Jean Baptiste) married to Marie Anne Raizenne is Generation 3. This generation is descended from two other sons of Jean Baptiste namely Jean Baptiste Séguin dit Ladéroute who married Catherine Raizenne and is Generation 3. The daughter of this Jean Baptiste and Catherine was Elisabeth Séguin dite Ladéroute and she married Antoine Quesnel 15 Nov 17612 at Lac des Deux Montagnes and is Generation 4. Pierre Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Jean Baptiste) married Marie Josephte Mallet 3 Feb 1739 at Ste Anne de Bellevue (Montréal) and is Generation 3. The daughter of Pierre and Marie Josephte was Marie Geneviève Séguin dite Ladéroute and she married Jean Noel Tourangeau and is Generation 4.
Hyacinthe Pascal Séguin dit Ladéroute married Marie Elizabeth Brabant 16 Nov 1761 at Ste Anne de Bellevue (Montréal) and is Generation 4. Hyacinthe also married Suzanne Léger and is Generation 4. This generation is also descended from the sister of Hyacinthe Marie Catherine Séguin who married Captain Françoise Villeneuve 18 Aug 1783 at Oka and is Generation 4.
Joseph Athanase Séguin (son of Hyacinthe and Suzanne) married to Jeanne Françoise de Chantale Brabant is Generation 5. Hyacinthe Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Hyacinthe and Marie Elizabeth) married to Marie Louise Rouleau 7 Feb 1785 at Vaudreuil is Generation 5.
Antoine Séguin dit Ladéroute (son of Joseph and Jeanne Françoise) married to Marie Anne Groux is Generation 6. Hyacinthe Séguin (son of Hyacinthe and Marie Louise Rouleau) married to Marie Monique Villeneuve 16 Apr 1812 at Vaudreuil is Generation 6. Their daughter Antoinette Séguin married to Julien Vital Bertrand 7 Feb 1842 at L'Original is Generation 7.
Rosa de Lima Séguin dit Ladéroute (daughter of Antoine and Marie Anne) married to Antoine Grégoire is Generation 8.
A very complicated descendancy for the Séguin dit Ladéroute family of the present generation and I will continue to transcribe documents on future research days. The present family is also descended from the emigrant Jacques Séguin married to Marie Badel 28 Nov 1689 at Montréal (son of Jean Séguin married to Marguerite Dupuis in France) and Jacques is Generation 1. Their daughter Barbé Charlotte Séguin married to Pierre Sabourin 23 Nov 1716 at Montréal is Generation 2.
Monday, June 20, 2011
Hémard dit Pot[e]vin family
Marguerite Hémard married Nicolas Joseph Grégoire 6 Feb 1837 and her parents were identified as Jean Pierre Hémard and Catherine Payant who were themselves married 14 Oct 1782 at La prairie. Their marriage proved to be quite elusive in that neither of their surnames matches the spellings given to them on their daughter's marriage lines.
Mariage Pierre Aimard et Catherine St Onge
Le quatorze octobre mil sept cent quatre vingt
deux après la publication des trois Bans de mariage
faite au prone de nos grandes messes de paroisse entre
pierre aimard fils d'antoine aimard et de Marie Bourgis
Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'une part, et Catherine
St Onge fil de Jean Baptiste Payant dit St Onge et de
Catherine Lérigée Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empec
hement au dit mariage nous soussigné curé avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale suivant la forme proscrite
par Notre Mere de St Eglise et __ en présence de
Simon Bawret, François _____ pour l'époux et pour
l'épouse pierre le _____; Ne _____ d'autre parents et
________ que ____
_____ Lecture faite Suivant ___
Simon Bawret [signed]
B denau [signed]
A M
J Bte Payant [signed]
lacvoits makillipe [signed]
margueritte makillipe [signed]
J G Lafroix [signed]
A lot of work to do on that transcription but it does identify the parents of Pierre Aimard as Antoine Aimard and Marie Bourgis who were themselves married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The similarity is so much that Pierre Aimard must be Pierre Hémard.The marriage of Antoine Hémard and Marie Bourget is in Tanguay where the names are spelled Antoine Aymard and Marie-Joseph Bourgery who were married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The parents of Antoine were Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Bloys although the marriage lines read Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Belois when they married 6 Feb 1702 at Longueuil. The parents of Pierre were married in France and the marriage lines suggest that they still live in France. Hence Pierre Aymard married to Marguerite Belois are Generation 1.
Antoine Aymard married to Marie-Joseph Bourgery is Generation 2.
Pierre Hémard married to Catherine Payette dite St Onge is Generation 3.
Marguerite Hémard married to Nicolas Joseph Grégoire is Generation 4.
The next research day I will continue my transcriptions of the records.
Mariage Pierre Aimard et Catherine St Onge
Le quatorze octobre mil sept cent quatre vingt
deux après la publication des trois Bans de mariage
faite au prone de nos grandes messes de paroisse entre
pierre aimard fils d'antoine aimard et de Marie Bourgis
Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'une part, et Catherine
St Onge fil de Jean Baptiste Payant dit St Onge et de
Catherine Lérigée Ses pere et mere de cette paroisse
d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert aucun empec
hement au dit mariage nous soussigné curé avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptiale suivant la forme proscrite
par Notre Mere de St Eglise et __ en présence de
Simon Bawret, François _____ pour l'époux et pour
l'épouse pierre le _____; Ne _____ d'autre parents et
________ que ____
_____ Lecture faite Suivant ___
Simon Bawret [signed]
B denau [signed]
A M
J Bte Payant [signed]
lacvoits makillipe [signed]
margueritte makillipe [signed]
J G Lafroix [signed]
A lot of work to do on that transcription but it does identify the parents of Pierre Aimard as Antoine Aimard and Marie Bourgis who were themselves married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The similarity is so much that Pierre Aimard must be Pierre Hémard.The marriage of Antoine Hémard and Marie Bourget is in Tanguay where the names are spelled Antoine Aymard and Marie-Joseph Bourgery who were married 29 Oct 1738 at Boucherville. The parents of Antoine were Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Bloys although the marriage lines read Pierre Aymard and Marguerite Belois when they married 6 Feb 1702 at Longueuil. The parents of Pierre were married in France and the marriage lines suggest that they still live in France. Hence Pierre Aymard married to Marguerite Belois are Generation 1.
Antoine Aymard married to Marie-Joseph Bourgery is Generation 2.
Pierre Hémard married to Catherine Payette dite St Onge is Generation 3.
Marguerite Hémard married to Nicolas Joseph Grégoire is Generation 4.
The next research day I will continue my transcriptions of the records.
Thursday, June 16, 2011
Grégoire Family
I corrected the transcriptions of 3 May 2011 for the Grégoire family. I debated how to do my re-looks at the transcriptions and the best way would be to go back and correct them and post on the latest Grégoire post that I had done so with a date; since this blog is primarily a research tool for me that would seem to be the best methodology.
M de nicolas Grégoire et de Thérèse de coste
le vingt d'aout mil sept cent quatre v
ingt dix huit par nous pretre soussigné curé
de St Constant, après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite au prone de nos messes parois
siales par trois dimanches consecutifs entre
nicolas grégoire laboureur fils majeur de feu nicolas grégoire
et de catherine guerin ses pere et mere de la
paroisse de chateaugai d'une part et thérèse
de coste dit lafleur fille majeure de feu jean b[aptis]te decoste
et de thérèse pouliot ses pere et mere de cette
paroisse d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert
aucun empechement ni issue de probition
au dit mariage connu il apert part certificat
de monsieur bryer curé de chateaugai avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement du cons
entement des parents et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptialle selon la forme
proscripte par votre mere la sainte eglise
paroisse et usage du diocese en présence
de jean guerin oncle de l'époux et qui lui a le ___
de pere d'amable guerin oncle de l'époux,
de michel lefebvre oncle de l'époux de françois
fosset beau pere de l'époux et de plusieurs autres
parents et amis de l'époux et de l'épouse qui ont
déclare ne savoir signer après lecture faite
qui vaut ______
A Begin Pretre
Nicolas Grégoire was first married to Thérèse Decoste and following her death he married Geneviève Patenaude 12 Jan 1807 (already transcribed). The parents of Nicolas Grégoire were thus identified as Nicolas Grégoire and Marie Catherine Guerin who were themselves married 20 Jul 1772 at La prairie (Montréal).
Transcription of this marriage the next research day.
M de nicolas Grégoire et de Thérèse de coste
le vingt d'aout mil sept cent quatre v
ingt dix huit par nous pretre soussigné curé
de St Constant, après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite au prone de nos messes parois
siales par trois dimanches consecutifs entre
nicolas grégoire laboureur fils majeur de feu nicolas grégoire
et de catherine guerin ses pere et mere de la
paroisse de chateaugai d'une part et thérèse
de coste dit lafleur fille majeure de feu jean b[aptis]te decoste
et de thérèse pouliot ses pere et mere de cette
paroisse d'autre part, ne s'étant découvert
aucun empechement ni issue de probition
au dit mariage connu il apert part certificat
de monsieur bryer curé de chateaugai avons
reçu leur mutuel consentement du cons
entement des parents et leur avons donné
la bénédiction nuptialle selon la forme
proscripte par votre mere la sainte eglise
paroisse et usage du diocese en présence
de jean guerin oncle de l'époux et qui lui a le ___
de pere d'amable guerin oncle de l'époux,
de michel lefebvre oncle de l'époux de françois
fosset beau pere de l'époux et de plusieurs autres
parents et amis de l'époux et de l'épouse qui ont
déclare ne savoir signer après lecture faite
qui vaut ______
A Begin Pretre
Nicolas Grégoire was first married to Thérèse Decoste and following her death he married Geneviève Patenaude 12 Jan 1807 (already transcribed). The parents of Nicolas Grégoire were thus identified as Nicolas Grégoire and Marie Catherine Guerin who were themselves married 20 Jul 1772 at La prairie (Montréal).
Transcription of this marriage the next research day.
Monday, June 13, 2011
Vincent at Spetisbury
The Vincent family at Spetisbury remains completely unknown to me. Ann Vincent married John Knight 9 Jun 1783 at Spetisbury. John Knight was not the son of William Knight and Mary Dashwood it would appear but was he a brother to William Knight father of Ellis Knight who married Eleanor daughter of John Knight and Ann Vincent? That is one of the puzzles that I hope the Dorset registers for the 1700s (once they are up on Ancestry) might help to solve. Most Knight researchers do make this connection and I have accepted their statements but remain unconvinced although do have the family lore of a cousin relationship between Ellis and Eleanor.
The OPC Dorset site does offer a list for the marriages at Spetisbury in the 1700s and I find:
9 Aug 1792 John Vincent and Elizabeth Evans married with Thomas Knight as a witness (Thomas though was often a witness so probably doesn't mean anything particularly)
2 Apr 1793 Joseph Vincent of Dewlish and Elizabeth Meader married (Thomas Knight witness)
24 Jul 1796 George Florance and Elizabeth Vincent married
26 Mar 1799 Benjamin Garrett and Amelia Vincent married (Henry Knight witness and again he was often so)
The next Vincent marriages are into the 1830s. I am curious why the marriage of John Knight and Ann Vincent in 1783 does not appear as other researchers have given me this information. From 1754 onwards where the listing of witnesses is recorded there is often a member of the Knight family with the earlier Knight being Henry. By 1774 the Knight member is Thomas. and by 1794 we are back to Henry Knight.
The militia list of 1787 for Spetisbury lists two John Knight - one is a bricklayer with 1 child and the second is a servant bricklayer (apprentice perhaps?). There is also a William Knight bricklayer. By 1787 John and Ann Knight appear to have just the one child Eleanor Knight. Is the date of their marriage in error (and the place). The mention of a Vincent at Dewlish attracted my interest. There are a lot of Vincent marriages at Dewlish but not a marriage for John Knight and Ann Vincent. There are eight children attributed to this couple by other researchers:
Eleanor Knight baptized 12 Dec 1786 at Spetisbury (married to Ellis Knight and my 2x great grandparents)
Elizabeth Ann Knight born circa 1790 and married to Ambrose Cousins 31 Mar 1818 at Spetisbury
Thomas Knight born circa 1794 at Spetisbury
Jemina Knight born circa 1798 at Spetisbury married to Thomas Randall 22 Aug 1825 at Spetisbury
Benjamin Knight born circa 1799 at Spetisbury married to Caroline Loader 26 Sep 1820 at Spetisbury
Joseph Knight born circa 1800 at Spetisbury married to Ann Robbins 23 Sep 1822 at Corfe Mullen
James Knight born circa 1802 at Spetisbury married to Frances Butcher 16 Aug 1829 at St Pancras (London)
Samuel Knight born circa 1806 at Spetisbury
I am left to ponder whether these are all their children and the next research day for Vincent may find the earlier registers for Dorset online at Ancestry.
The OPC Dorset site does offer a list for the marriages at Spetisbury in the 1700s and I find:
9 Aug 1792 John Vincent and Elizabeth Evans married with Thomas Knight as a witness (Thomas though was often a witness so probably doesn't mean anything particularly)
2 Apr 1793 Joseph Vincent of Dewlish and Elizabeth Meader married (Thomas Knight witness)
24 Jul 1796 George Florance and Elizabeth Vincent married
26 Mar 1799 Benjamin Garrett and Amelia Vincent married (Henry Knight witness and again he was often so)
The next Vincent marriages are into the 1830s. I am curious why the marriage of John Knight and Ann Vincent in 1783 does not appear as other researchers have given me this information. From 1754 onwards where the listing of witnesses is recorded there is often a member of the Knight family with the earlier Knight being Henry. By 1774 the Knight member is Thomas. and by 1794 we are back to Henry Knight.
The militia list of 1787 for Spetisbury lists two John Knight - one is a bricklayer with 1 child and the second is a servant bricklayer (apprentice perhaps?). There is also a William Knight bricklayer. By 1787 John and Ann Knight appear to have just the one child Eleanor Knight. Is the date of their marriage in error (and the place). The mention of a Vincent at Dewlish attracted my interest. There are a lot of Vincent marriages at Dewlish but not a marriage for John Knight and Ann Vincent. There are eight children attributed to this couple by other researchers:
Eleanor Knight baptized 12 Dec 1786 at Spetisbury (married to Ellis Knight and my 2x great grandparents)
Elizabeth Ann Knight born circa 1790 and married to Ambrose Cousins 31 Mar 1818 at Spetisbury
Thomas Knight born circa 1794 at Spetisbury
Jemina Knight born circa 1798 at Spetisbury married to Thomas Randall 22 Aug 1825 at Spetisbury
Benjamin Knight born circa 1799 at Spetisbury married to Caroline Loader 26 Sep 1820 at Spetisbury
Joseph Knight born circa 1800 at Spetisbury married to Ann Robbins 23 Sep 1822 at Corfe Mullen
James Knight born circa 1802 at Spetisbury married to Frances Butcher 16 Aug 1829 at St Pancras (London)
Samuel Knight born circa 1806 at Spetisbury
I am left to ponder whether these are all their children and the next research day for Vincent may find the earlier registers for Dorset online at Ancestry.
Richer family
Olive Richer married François Audet dit Lapointe 26 Feb 1852 at St Hermas and her parents were identified in the marriage lines as Bernard Richer dit Louveteau and Adelaide Proulx who were themselves married 30 Jan 1826 at St Benoit.
Le trente janvier mil huit cent vingt dix après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au
Prone de trois messes paroissiales des trois dimanches
consecutifs entre Bernard Richer dit Louveateau fils
majeur de Paul Richer dit Louveteau, cultivateur
et de Marie Jammé dite Carrière de cette paroisse
d'une part et Adélaide Proulx fille mineure
de Thomas Proulx et de Josephte Doré aussi de
cette ;paroisse d'autre part, sans découvrir aucun
empechement ni opposition quelconque a leur
futur mariage nous soussigné pretre curé de
cette paroisse de l'agréement des parens avons
reçu le mutuel consentement de mariage des
parties contractantes et les avons marié presence
de Jean Baptiste Richer frère de l'époux Thomas Proux son
père, Theodor Proulx son oncle et Joseph Doré
qui ont déclarene savoir signer.
M I Felix Pretre
The parents of Bernard Richer dit Louveteau being thus identified as Paul Richer dit Louveteau and Marie Jammé dite Carrière who were themselves married 19 May 1783 at Pointe Claire.
M Paul Richer dit Louveteau et Marie Jammé dit Carrière
Le dix neuf Mai de l'an mil sept cent quatre vingt trois après la publi
cation de trois bans de mariage faite par trois dimanches consecutifs
et a la messe de paroisse et semblable publication a la paroisse de
St Eustache ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement qu'entre du
troisieme degree du parents dont les parties ont obtenue dispense de
Monsigneur Mont______ grand vicaire de ce dioces, je soussigné ai reçu
le mutuel consentement et ai marie Paul Louveteau fils de
Paul Richer dit Louveteau et de Cecile Brisebois, Marie Jammé
fille de defunt Michael Jamme dit Cariere et de Dorothee
Brisebois de cette paroisse et les parties contractantes ont reconnus
qu'un Enfant Bapteme de _____ sans le nom de Paul
soit ____ fait et en cette _____ a ^té bapteme suivant
____ de St ____ ont étés présens du cote de l'époux Paul
Richer dit Louveteau qui ne su signer ainsi que l'époux, oncle de l'épouse
Jean Baptiste Cariere son frere Michael Cariere son frere, qui n'ont
s___ signer.
Conesroy Pretre
The parents of Paul Richer dit Louveteau being thus identified as Paul Richer dit Louveteau and Cecile Brisebois who were themselves married 22 May 1758 at St Laurent (Montréal).
M Paul Lericher et Cecile Brisebois
Le vingt deux may mil sept cent cinquante huit après
la publication de trois bans faites la premiere le d___
dre de la p____ la seconde le jour de la troisieme et ___
la troisieme hier au prone de la messe paroissiale entre
paul lericher fils de françois lericher dit Louveteau et de
defunte Marianne Betran ses pere et mere de la par
de Ste Genevieve d'une part et Cecile Brisebois fille de
Louis Brisebois et de defunte Marie Angelique Groux ses
pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part et semblable
publication ayant eété faite dans la paroisse de Ste Gene
vieve comme il n'est apparu par le certificat de Monsigneur
Besson Curé missionaire de la paroisse reste entre nos
mains sans avoir decouvert aucun empechement ny
opposition je soussigné aprè avoir reç leur mutuel
consentement de mariage Leur ay donné la bénédiction
nuptiale en présence de françois lericher pere Jean
Baptiste lericher frere de l' époux et du Louis Brisebois
pere de l'épouse et de pierre plouf oncle de l'épouse les
quels trois ont declare ne savoir signer _____
Tarleton Pretre
At this point I do find the marriage of François Richer in Tanguay but it is to Marie-Anne Brunet. I think the priest has perhaps made an error recording the maiden name of the mother of Paul as she is referred to as Marianne Brunet in his baptism (to be transcribed next research day). The marriage of François Richer and Marie-Anne Brunet took place 18 Oct 1723 at St Laurent. Again there does appear to be an error as François is listed with a second wife Marie-Joseph LeNormand but the records show that Marie-Joseph LeNormand married Pierre Richer. The parents of François Richer were Jacques Richer dit Louveteau and Marie Joffrion who were married 7 Apr 1698 at Notre Dame (Montréal). Jacques was born in France and hence the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.
François Richer dit Louveteau married to Marie-Anne Brunet is Generation 2. The present generation is also descended from Marie Joseph Richer (sister to François) who married Pierre Plouphe 11 Jan 1723 at St Laurent and is also Generation 2.
Paul Richer dit Louveteau married to Marie-Cecile Brisebois is Generation 3.
Paul Richer dit Louveteau married to Marie Jammé dite Carrière is Generation 4.
Bernard Richer dit Louveteau married to Adelaide Proulx is Generation 5.
Olive Richer married to François Audet dit Lapointe is Generation 6.
Tanguay does not list Jacques Richer dit Louveteau's marriage but only Pierre Richer. I have no idea on whether or not these two families are related.
Le trente janvier mil huit cent vingt dix après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au
Prone de trois messes paroissiales des trois dimanches
consecutifs entre Bernard Richer dit Louveateau fils
majeur de Paul Richer dit Louveteau, cultivateur
et de Marie Jammé dite Carrière de cette paroisse
d'une part et Adélaide Proulx fille mineure
de Thomas Proulx et de Josephte Doré aussi de
cette ;paroisse d'autre part, sans découvrir aucun
empechement ni opposition quelconque a leur
futur mariage nous soussigné pretre curé de
cette paroisse de l'agréement des parens avons
reçu le mutuel consentement de mariage des
parties contractantes et les avons marié presence
de Jean Baptiste Richer frère de l'époux Thomas Proux son
père, Theodor Proulx son oncle et Joseph Doré
qui ont déclarene savoir signer.
M I Felix Pretre
The parents of Bernard Richer dit Louveteau being thus identified as Paul Richer dit Louveteau and Marie Jammé dite Carrière who were themselves married 19 May 1783 at Pointe Claire.
M Paul Richer dit Louveteau et Marie Jammé dit Carrière
Le dix neuf Mai de l'an mil sept cent quatre vingt trois après la publi
cation de trois bans de mariage faite par trois dimanches consecutifs
et a la messe de paroisse et semblable publication a la paroisse de
St Eustache ne s'étant trouvé aucun empechement qu'entre du
troisieme degree du parents dont les parties ont obtenue dispense de
Monsigneur Mont______ grand vicaire de ce dioces, je soussigné ai reçu
le mutuel consentement et ai marie Paul Louveteau fils de
Paul Richer dit Louveteau et de Cecile Brisebois, Marie Jammé
fille de defunt Michael Jamme dit Cariere et de Dorothee
Brisebois de cette paroisse et les parties contractantes ont reconnus
qu'un Enfant Bapteme de _____ sans le nom de Paul
soit ____ fait et en cette _____ a ^té bapteme suivant
____ de St ____ ont étés présens du cote de l'époux Paul
Richer dit Louveteau qui ne su signer ainsi que l'époux, oncle de l'épouse
Jean Baptiste Cariere son frere Michael Cariere son frere, qui n'ont
s___ signer.
Conesroy Pretre
The parents of Paul Richer dit Louveteau being thus identified as Paul Richer dit Louveteau and Cecile Brisebois who were themselves married 22 May 1758 at St Laurent (Montréal).
M Paul Lericher et Cecile Brisebois
Le vingt deux may mil sept cent cinquante huit après
la publication de trois bans faites la premiere le d___
dre de la p____ la seconde le jour de la troisieme et ___
la troisieme hier au prone de la messe paroissiale entre
paul lericher fils de françois lericher dit Louveteau et de
defunte Marianne Betran ses pere et mere de la par
de Ste Genevieve d'une part et Cecile Brisebois fille de
Louis Brisebois et de defunte Marie Angelique Groux ses
pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part et semblable
publication ayant eété faite dans la paroisse de Ste Gene
vieve comme il n'est apparu par le certificat de Monsigneur
Besson Curé missionaire de la paroisse reste entre nos
mains sans avoir decouvert aucun empechement ny
opposition je soussigné aprè avoir reç leur mutuel
consentement de mariage Leur ay donné la bénédiction
nuptiale en présence de françois lericher pere Jean
Baptiste lericher frere de l' époux et du Louis Brisebois
pere de l'épouse et de pierre plouf oncle de l'épouse les
quels trois ont declare ne savoir signer _____
Tarleton Pretre
At this point I do find the marriage of François Richer in Tanguay but it is to Marie-Anne Brunet. I think the priest has perhaps made an error recording the maiden name of the mother of Paul as she is referred to as Marianne Brunet in his baptism (to be transcribed next research day). The marriage of François Richer and Marie-Anne Brunet took place 18 Oct 1723 at St Laurent. Again there does appear to be an error as François is listed with a second wife Marie-Joseph LeNormand but the records show that Marie-Joseph LeNormand married Pierre Richer. The parents of François Richer were Jacques Richer dit Louveteau and Marie Joffrion who were married 7 Apr 1698 at Notre Dame (Montréal). Jacques was born in France and hence the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.
François Richer dit Louveteau married to Marie-Anne Brunet is Generation 2. The present generation is also descended from Marie Joseph Richer (sister to François) who married Pierre Plouphe 11 Jan 1723 at St Laurent and is also Generation 2.
Paul Richer dit Louveteau married to Marie-Cecile Brisebois is Generation 3.
Paul Richer dit Louveteau married to Marie Jammé dite Carrière is Generation 4.
Bernard Richer dit Louveteau married to Adelaide Proulx is Generation 5.
Olive Richer married to François Audet dit Lapointe is Generation 6.
Tanguay does not list Jacques Richer dit Louveteau's marriage but only Pierre Richer. I have no idea on whether or not these two families are related.
Sunday, June 12, 2011
Ellis at Winterborne Stickland
Working on the Andover Parish Registers I found an Ellis family there which was rather interesting given the later marriage of Sarah Ellis and William Knight and then their son William Knight and Eleanor Knight followed by Samuel Knight and Louisa Butt and their daughter Maria Jane Knight and Edward Blake. Coincidence or did this Ellis family which appears at Winterborne Stickland in the early 1770s spend time in the Andover area?
Baptisms
Ellice Richard son Ellice Robert Simmons Sarah 1695 May 13
Ellice John son Ellice Robert Sarah 1700 November 17
Ellis John son Ellis Robert Ann 1732 April 25
Ellis alias Simons Robert son Ellis alias Simons Robert Ann 1720 May 6
Ellis alias Simons Elisha son Ellis alias Simons Elias Mary 1720 December 18
Marriages
Thorneton John Ellis Margaret 1604 October 29 widow
White Samuel Ellis Mary 1740 January 14
Thurman Thomas East Wood Ellise Dina East Wood 1655 July 14
Burials
Eles James 1731 May 23
Ellice Robert 1710 October 8 senior, woollen
Ellis Elizabeth daughter Ellis Joan 1715 November 26 woollen
Ellis Joan 1723 February 20 woollen, widow
Ellis John 1732 May 5
Ellis Dorothy 1742 April 1
The family I am looking for is Ellis Ellis who married Sarah Wellspring 7 Mar 1738 at Winterborne Stickland; I have no information on Ellis and Sarah was buried 25 Jan 1780 at Winterborne Stickland (no age given). They baptized four daughters and probably one son at Winterborne Stickland:
Jane baptized 28 Sep 1742 married Atman Melchizedek 2 Jul 1762 at Winterborne Stickland.
Elizabeth baptized 3 Feb 1744 married John Upshall 16 Apr 1770 at Winterborne Stickland.
John baptized 14 Jun 1747 (although the parents are listed as John Ellis and Sarah this is perhaps a transcription error and I am eagerly awaiting Ancestry having the earlier Dorset records online)
Susanna (no baptism found yet) married Thomas Cocks 16 Jul 1772 at Winterborne Stickland.
Sarah baptized 5 Aug 1756 married William Knight 7 Aug 1775 at Winterborne Stickland and they had 8 children according to a number of researchers. I will look at these children in another Knight research blog.
After I found the Ellis records at Andover I did wonder if Elisha Ellis was called Ellis Ellis as the date of birth/baptism would fit very nicely into this family grouping. I have not found the Ellis family at Winterborne Stickland before 1738. Proving/disproving that will be interesting I suspect.
Investigating to see if the Ellis family lived nearby Winterborne Stickland it is possible to search the OPC Dorset website and I do find Ellis families in this area. I will continue to investigate the Ellis family in Dorset on my next research day
Baptisms
Ellice Richard son Ellice Robert Simmons Sarah 1695 May 13
Ellice John son Ellice Robert Sarah 1700 November 17
Ellis John son Ellis Robert Ann 1732 April 25
Ellis alias Simons Robert son Ellis alias Simons Robert Ann 1720 May 6
Ellis alias Simons Elisha son Ellis alias Simons Elias Mary 1720 December 18
Marriages
Thorneton John Ellis Margaret 1604 October 29 widow
White Samuel Ellis Mary 1740 January 14
Thurman Thomas East Wood Ellise Dina East Wood 1655 July 14
Burials
Eles James 1731 May 23
Ellice Robert 1710 October 8 senior, woollen
Ellis Elizabeth daughter Ellis Joan 1715 November 26 woollen
Ellis Joan 1723 February 20 woollen, widow
Ellis John 1732 May 5
Ellis Dorothy 1742 April 1
The family I am looking for is Ellis Ellis who married Sarah Wellspring 7 Mar 1738 at Winterborne Stickland; I have no information on Ellis and Sarah was buried 25 Jan 1780 at Winterborne Stickland (no age given). They baptized four daughters and probably one son at Winterborne Stickland:
Jane baptized 28 Sep 1742 married Atman Melchizedek 2 Jul 1762 at Winterborne Stickland.
Elizabeth baptized 3 Feb 1744 married John Upshall 16 Apr 1770 at Winterborne Stickland.
John baptized 14 Jun 1747 (although the parents are listed as John Ellis and Sarah this is perhaps a transcription error and I am eagerly awaiting Ancestry having the earlier Dorset records online)
Susanna (no baptism found yet) married Thomas Cocks 16 Jul 1772 at Winterborne Stickland.
Sarah baptized 5 Aug 1756 married William Knight 7 Aug 1775 at Winterborne Stickland and they had 8 children according to a number of researchers. I will look at these children in another Knight research blog.
After I found the Ellis records at Andover I did wonder if Elisha Ellis was called Ellis Ellis as the date of birth/baptism would fit very nicely into this family grouping. I have not found the Ellis family at Winterborne Stickland before 1738. Proving/disproving that will be interesting I suspect.
Investigating to see if the Ellis family lived nearby Winterborne Stickland it is possible to search the OPC Dorset website and I do find Ellis families in this area. I will continue to investigate the Ellis family in Dorset on my next research day
Thursday, June 9, 2011
Audet dit Lapointe Family
Léa Audet dite Lapointe married Jean Baptiste Nepveu/Nepvu 4 Sep 1882 at St François de Sales, Point Gatineau. The marriage registration I have not yet found. However Léa Lapointe has lots of indicators on her parentage as she is found with her mother (a widow) on the 1871 census at Point Gatineau. Olive Lapointe with her four children: Cadelia 10, Léa 8, Hyacinthe 6, and Elie 3 living in the Township of Templeton, West Ottawa District. The 1881 census lists Olive Lapointe with her two sons Hyacinthe 15 and Elie 12 (both daughters are now missing). Although most trees report that the marriage was in 1882 I haven't found Léa on the 1881 census yet and will move to look at that today. Her husband to be is living at Point Gatineau - Jean Baptiste with parents Jean Baptiste and Adélaide. Proximity and the baptisms of their children assist in placing these two people into their respective family groupings but the marriage lines would be nice to verify this placement.
The 1861 census for the Lapointe family is one that I would particularly like to find and have not been able to do so thus far. I have found two rather interesting baptisms at St Hermas:
B 70 Mathilide Audet
Le vingt septembre mil huit cent cinquante quatre
nous pretre soussigné avons baptisé Mathilde née hier
du legitime mariage de François Audet de cette paroisse
et de Olive Richer. Parrain Jean _____ Paradis; Marain
Aynifse Broyer qui n'ai plus que le père n'ont su signer
P Poutin Pretre
Also at St Hermas:
B 37 Zoé Audet
Le vingt huit avril mil huit cent cinquante
sept nous pretre soussigné avons baptisé
Zoé née hier du legitime mariage
de François Audet journalier et d'Olive
Richer e cette paroisse. Le parrain
a été Emerie Saintonge, la marraine
Zoé Richer qui ainsi que le père
n'ont pu signer
L Turcot Pretre
These two children (Mathilde and Zoé) do not appear on the census in 1871; the eldest child on the census is Cordelia age 10. Olive is a widow on the 1871 census. I will turn to looking for the baptisms of the other children and the burial of François Audet dit Lapointe. An hour of searching and no luck yet and I will return to this with the next research day for this family.
The 1861 census for the Lapointe family is one that I would particularly like to find and have not been able to do so thus far. I have found two rather interesting baptisms at St Hermas:
B 70 Mathilide Audet
Le vingt septembre mil huit cent cinquante quatre
nous pretre soussigné avons baptisé Mathilde née hier
du legitime mariage de François Audet de cette paroisse
et de Olive Richer. Parrain Jean _____ Paradis; Marain
Aynifse Broyer qui n'ai plus que le père n'ont su signer
P Poutin Pretre
Also at St Hermas:
B 37 Zoé Audet
Le vingt huit avril mil huit cent cinquante
sept nous pretre soussigné avons baptisé
Zoé née hier du legitime mariage
de François Audet journalier et d'Olive
Richer e cette paroisse. Le parrain
a été Emerie Saintonge, la marraine
Zoé Richer qui ainsi que le père
n'ont pu signer
L Turcot Pretre
These two children (Mathilde and Zoé) do not appear on the census in 1871; the eldest child on the census is Cordelia age 10. Olive is a widow on the 1871 census. I will turn to looking for the baptisms of the other children and the burial of François Audet dit Lapointe. An hour of searching and no luck yet and I will return to this with the next research day for this family.
Wednesday, June 8, 2011
Knight family at Spetisbury and Winterborne Stickland
I really am brickwalled with the Knight family once I am back into the early 1700s and I would like more proof of the marriage in the 1760s between William Knight and Mary Dashwood 9 Aug 1760 at St Peters Shaftesbury Dorset and the children that are generally attributed to this marriage. Their daughter Jane Knight married John Hardy and they are the ancestors of author Thomas Hardy. The good news is that the Dorset records from 1813 have come on line at Ancestry and the earlier records are also apparently coming. I have not been able to purchase any of their records so this is a real boon to me in my Dorset families research with the Knight family forming a large group in that my 2x Knight great grandparents both have the surname Knight - Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight who were married 29 May 1804 at Spetisbury.
My grandfather knew of his Knight family probably from his mother and grandfather. His grandfather Samuel Knight lived to be 83 years of age and my Grandfather was a father himself with an eight year old son (my father) when his grandfather Samuel Knight died 16 Apr 1912 at Turnworth Dorset. My father used to visit his great grandfather at Turnworth when he was a child and he remembered him as a tall thin white haired man but to a child that young I expect most people were tall. My great grandmother Blake (née Knight) looks quite tall in her picture though so it may have been true.
What I remember about the Knight family from my grandfather was that his grandparents were cousins and that they had eighteen children. I have only found 13 and I think I may have misunderstood the 18 and it should have been 13 but I think that he was telling me that they lived in the house across from the church and that it was a double house with Samuel and his wife Louisa Butt living on one side and Thomas (Samuel's older brother next in age to him) living on the other side with his wife Thurza Butt. Louisa and Thurza were sisters. A third brother-sister marriage was Abel Butt (brother to Louisa and Thurza) married to Martha Knight (youngest sister of Thomas and Samuel). When it came time to celebrate the birthday of the father of Louisa, Thurza and Abel, my grandfather and all of his siblings went to Turnworth for the 80th birthday party and he had been born in December 1801 at Winterborne Stickland. I think the party was actually in the summer of 1882 as my grandfather said he was seven years old at the time. It was an enormous family gathering apparently especially given the three Knight-Butt marriages and all their children and grandchildren/great grandchildren. More on that when I talk about the Butt family.
Maria Jane Knight (my great grandmother) was born January 1850 at Turnworth and baptized at the Parish Church 27 Jan 1850 (St Marys). We visited the Church with my second cousins in April 2008 and holding the enormous skeleton key in my hand was a monumental event for me. Perhaps it is my Celtic blood running through my veins but I felt a tremendous sense of connection to Samuel and Louisa at that moment in time as I am sure there were times when Samuel helped Thomas and probably held that same key (Thomas was the Parish Clerk of this parish for thirty years). Only the two generations were baptized there and that included Samuel Knight (my 2x great grandfather) born and baptized 25 May 1828 at Turnworth (surprisingly these records are not on Ancestry as I received a paper printout of photographs of the records from another researcher who had photographed them in the late 1990s as I recall. Before the days of digital cameras I guess as he didn't offer to send the original images. Not all of Samuel's siblings were baptized at Turnworth and his parents were Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight mentioned above as marrying 29 May 1804 at Spetisbury. I am looking forward to the records before 1813 being available to look at their actual marriage lines to see if it answers the question was Eleanor the first cousin of Ellis Knight?
Children of Ellis and Eleanor Knight
1. Ellis baptized 27 Jul 1806 at Spetisbury; likely the father of Elizabeth Anne Knight Morris (daughter of Mary Ann Morris) baptized 26 Sep 1824 at Winterborne Stickland. To the best of my knowledge this Ellis never married and he may be the Ellis Knight listed as a mariner at Liverpool on the 1841 census. He is listed as living on Highfield Street and a number of the people living there are in the navy. I do not find him again on any census/burial record/marriage registration.
2. George baptized 28 Jun 1808 at Spetisbury; buried 18 Jul 1830 at Blandford (possibly) but likely dead before child 13 born.
3. Mary Ann baptized 25 Nov 1809 at Spetisbury; married to James Ainsworth 27 Sep 1835 at Turnworth and they had six children: Martha Jane baptized 25 June 1837 Stourpaine, Tabitha baptized 14 May 1839 Stourpaine, William and Georgianna baptized 18 June 1843, John Edward baptized 5 May 1845; buried 24 Apr 1847, Stourpaine and Jane baptized 1 Mar 1849 Stourpaine.
4. Samuel Knight baptized 8 Nov 1811 at Spetisbury; buried 14 Jul 1823 at Turnworth.
5. Maria baptized 16 Feb 1814 at Spetisbury
6. Henry baptized 28 Jan 1816 at Spetisbury married to Elizabeth Lane 24 Feb 1838 at Winterborne Houghton and they had one child: Theophilus Sep 1844 Winterborne Houghton.
7. Elizabeth Knight baptized 30 Aug 1818 at Turnworth and she married Samuel Ballam 1 Sep 1834 at Turnworth. I have one son for this couple Frederick bc 1841 Lytchett Minster. Frederick married Matilda Drake and they had five children.
8. Edward baptized 12 Nov 1820 at Turnworth; buried 8 Nov 1841 at Turnworth.
9. John baptized 18 May 1823 at Turnworth; married sep quarter 1843 Blandford RD to Harriet Whitty and they had 12 children: Edward born mar quarter 1845 Winterborne Houghton, John Augustus born mar quarter 1846 Blandford RD, Julia Jane born sep quarter 1848 Blandford RD, Eliza bc 1850 Blandford St Mary, Ann bc 1854 Blandford St Mary, Edith born sep quarter 1855 Blandford RD, Henry born mar quarter 1858 Blandford RD, Euphremia bc 1859 Blandford St Mary and died dec quarter 1859 Blandford RD, Sarah bc 1860 Blandford St Mary, Frederick born dec quarter 1860 Blandford RD and died mar quarter 1861 Blandford RD, Frederick Albert born jun quarter 1865 Blandford RD, and Florence bc 1869 Blandford St Mary.
10. Thomas baptized 24 Apr 1825 at Turnworth; married 10 Nov 1844 at Turnworth to Thurza Butt and they had eight children: Agnes Jane born dec quarter 1845 Turnworth married James Snook and they had 11 children, Emily Jane born jun quarter 1848 Turnworth married to Henry Snook and they had 10 children, Eleanor baptized 26 Oct 1851 at Turnworth, Hezekiah born jun quarter 1854 turnworth married Margaretta Bedford and they had 10 children, Josiah Ellis born mar quarter 1857 turnworth married Esther Marsden and they had 6 children, William Thomas baptized 10 Jun 1859 and buried 23 May 1860 at Turnworth, Isaac born 24 Jan 1861 at Turnworth married Sarah Josephine Harman and they had 6 children, and Caroline born dec quarter 1865 married Charles Read and they had 2 children.
11. Samuel (my 2x great grandfather) baptized 25 May 1828 at Turnworth and married to Louisa Butt 7 Sep 1849 at Winterborne Stickland and they had 11 children although only four survived infancy: Maria Jane (my great grandmother) baptized 27 Jan 1850 married to Edward Blake and they had 12 children, Elizabeth baptized 24 Dec 1851 Turnworth married Charles Swyer 30 Nov 1874 at Bland\ford and they had 1 child, Mary Ann baptized 20 Oct 1853, Eliza baptized 10 Feb 1856 and buried 12 Nov 1857 at Turnworth, Henry baptized 5 Feb 1858 at Turnworth married Catherine Crankshaw dec quarter 1878 at Chorley and they had one son, Lucy baptized 31 Aug 1861 and buried 17 Apr 1862 at Turnworth, Jane and Martha (twins) baptized 31 Jul 1863 and buried 11 Dec 1863 at Turnworth, Edward and Eliza (twins) baptized 30 Oct 1865 and Edward buried 14 Nov 1865 and Eliza buried 18 May 1866 at Turnworth and Emma baptized 13 Nov 1866 and buried 7 Jan 1867 at Turnworth. Although Maria Jane (my great grandmother must have viewed all these deaths with great sadness not a word of that passed down through the family).
12. Martha baptized 21 Nov 1830 and married Abel Butt 8 Feb 1850 at Turnworth and they had 8 children: Jane baptized 12 Sep 1852 at Winterborne Stickland married George Christopher dec quarter 1869 Blandford RD and they had two children, George baptized 12 Jan 1855 at Winterborne Stickland married Maria Snape probably at Withnell Lancashire and they had three children, Eliza baptized 2 May 1858 Winterborne Stickland married George Brindle 28 Aug 1875 at Chorley RD and they had 8 children, Louisa bc 1861 Winterborne Stickland married James Rogers 1 Oct 1882 at Withnell and they had three children, Tabitha Ainsworth was baptized 21 Sep 1862 at Winterborne Stickland married William Stringfellow 1 Mar 1884 at Withness and they had 15 children, Emma baptized 16 Apr 1865 at Winterborne Stickland married Robert Woods 9 Jun 1883 at Withnell and they had 6 children, Lucy Elizabeth baptized 30 Aug 1868 at Winterborne Stickland married Douglas Heaton 1 Mar 1899 at Withnell, and Annie baptized 13 Aug 1871 at Winterborne Stickland married John Thomas Woods 10 Feb 1897 at Withnell and they had 3 children.
13. George Knight bc 1830 at Turnworth; died sep quarter 1852 Blandford RD.
With the availability of all the Dorset records (except Turnworth is missing for the moment) I shall verify all of these dates which I have received from other researchers and change any that are not correct both in my blog today and my Legacy file. I have both Find My Past and Ancestry to check for the available information.
I sorted through a number of the Dorset family records although none in my direct line and entered in baptismal dates and marriages dates/location. For the marriages I have just the registration district and these registrations give me the exact location.
Continue to extract records for the Knight family on my next research day for this family.
My grandfather knew of his Knight family probably from his mother and grandfather. His grandfather Samuel Knight lived to be 83 years of age and my Grandfather was a father himself with an eight year old son (my father) when his grandfather Samuel Knight died 16 Apr 1912 at Turnworth Dorset. My father used to visit his great grandfather at Turnworth when he was a child and he remembered him as a tall thin white haired man but to a child that young I expect most people were tall. My great grandmother Blake (née Knight) looks quite tall in her picture though so it may have been true.
What I remember about the Knight family from my grandfather was that his grandparents were cousins and that they had eighteen children. I have only found 13 and I think I may have misunderstood the 18 and it should have been 13 but I think that he was telling me that they lived in the house across from the church and that it was a double house with Samuel and his wife Louisa Butt living on one side and Thomas (Samuel's older brother next in age to him) living on the other side with his wife Thurza Butt. Louisa and Thurza were sisters. A third brother-sister marriage was Abel Butt (brother to Louisa and Thurza) married to Martha Knight (youngest sister of Thomas and Samuel). When it came time to celebrate the birthday of the father of Louisa, Thurza and Abel, my grandfather and all of his siblings went to Turnworth for the 80th birthday party and he had been born in December 1801 at Winterborne Stickland. I think the party was actually in the summer of 1882 as my grandfather said he was seven years old at the time. It was an enormous family gathering apparently especially given the three Knight-Butt marriages and all their children and grandchildren/great grandchildren. More on that when I talk about the Butt family.
Maria Jane Knight (my great grandmother) was born January 1850 at Turnworth and baptized at the Parish Church 27 Jan 1850 (St Marys). We visited the Church with my second cousins in April 2008 and holding the enormous skeleton key in my hand was a monumental event for me. Perhaps it is my Celtic blood running through my veins but I felt a tremendous sense of connection to Samuel and Louisa at that moment in time as I am sure there were times when Samuel helped Thomas and probably held that same key (Thomas was the Parish Clerk of this parish for thirty years). Only the two generations were baptized there and that included Samuel Knight (my 2x great grandfather) born and baptized 25 May 1828 at Turnworth (surprisingly these records are not on Ancestry as I received a paper printout of photographs of the records from another researcher who had photographed them in the late 1990s as I recall. Before the days of digital cameras I guess as he didn't offer to send the original images. Not all of Samuel's siblings were baptized at Turnworth and his parents were Ellis Knight and Eleanor Knight mentioned above as marrying 29 May 1804 at Spetisbury. I am looking forward to the records before 1813 being available to look at their actual marriage lines to see if it answers the question was Eleanor the first cousin of Ellis Knight?
Children of Ellis and Eleanor Knight
1. Ellis baptized 27 Jul 1806 at Spetisbury; likely the father of Elizabeth Anne Knight Morris (daughter of Mary Ann Morris) baptized 26 Sep 1824 at Winterborne Stickland. To the best of my knowledge this Ellis never married and he may be the Ellis Knight listed as a mariner at Liverpool on the 1841 census. He is listed as living on Highfield Street and a number of the people living there are in the navy. I do not find him again on any census/burial record/marriage registration.
2. George baptized 28 Jun 1808 at Spetisbury; buried 18 Jul 1830 at Blandford (possibly) but likely dead before child 13 born.
3. Mary Ann baptized 25 Nov 1809 at Spetisbury; married to James Ainsworth 27 Sep 1835 at Turnworth and they had six children: Martha Jane baptized 25 June 1837 Stourpaine, Tabitha baptized 14 May 1839 Stourpaine, William and Georgianna baptized 18 June 1843, John Edward baptized 5 May 1845; buried 24 Apr 1847, Stourpaine and Jane baptized 1 Mar 1849 Stourpaine.
4. Samuel Knight baptized 8 Nov 1811 at Spetisbury; buried 14 Jul 1823 at Turnworth.
5. Maria baptized 16 Feb 1814 at Spetisbury
6. Henry baptized 28 Jan 1816 at Spetisbury married to Elizabeth Lane 24 Feb 1838 at Winterborne Houghton and they had one child: Theophilus Sep 1844 Winterborne Houghton.
7. Elizabeth Knight baptized 30 Aug 1818 at Turnworth and she married Samuel Ballam 1 Sep 1834 at Turnworth. I have one son for this couple Frederick bc 1841 Lytchett Minster. Frederick married Matilda Drake and they had five children.
8. Edward baptized 12 Nov 1820 at Turnworth; buried 8 Nov 1841 at Turnworth.
9. John baptized 18 May 1823 at Turnworth; married sep quarter 1843 Blandford RD to Harriet Whitty and they had 12 children: Edward born mar quarter 1845 Winterborne Houghton, John Augustus born mar quarter 1846 Blandford RD, Julia Jane born sep quarter 1848 Blandford RD, Eliza bc 1850 Blandford St Mary, Ann bc 1854 Blandford St Mary, Edith born sep quarter 1855 Blandford RD, Henry born mar quarter 1858 Blandford RD, Euphremia bc 1859 Blandford St Mary and died dec quarter 1859 Blandford RD, Sarah bc 1860 Blandford St Mary, Frederick born dec quarter 1860 Blandford RD and died mar quarter 1861 Blandford RD, Frederick Albert born jun quarter 1865 Blandford RD, and Florence bc 1869 Blandford St Mary.
10. Thomas baptized 24 Apr 1825 at Turnworth; married 10 Nov 1844 at Turnworth to Thurza Butt and they had eight children: Agnes Jane born dec quarter 1845 Turnworth married James Snook and they had 11 children, Emily Jane born jun quarter 1848 Turnworth married to Henry Snook and they had 10 children, Eleanor baptized 26 Oct 1851 at Turnworth, Hezekiah born jun quarter 1854 turnworth married Margaretta Bedford and they had 10 children, Josiah Ellis born mar quarter 1857 turnworth married Esther Marsden and they had 6 children, William Thomas baptized 10 Jun 1859 and buried 23 May 1860 at Turnworth, Isaac born 24 Jan 1861 at Turnworth married Sarah Josephine Harman and they had 6 children, and Caroline born dec quarter 1865 married Charles Read and they had 2 children.
11. Samuel (my 2x great grandfather) baptized 25 May 1828 at Turnworth and married to Louisa Butt 7 Sep 1849 at Winterborne Stickland and they had 11 children although only four survived infancy: Maria Jane (my great grandmother) baptized 27 Jan 1850 married to Edward Blake and they had 12 children, Elizabeth baptized 24 Dec 1851 Turnworth married Charles Swyer 30 Nov 1874 at Bland\ford and they had 1 child, Mary Ann baptized 20 Oct 1853, Eliza baptized 10 Feb 1856 and buried 12 Nov 1857 at Turnworth, Henry baptized 5 Feb 1858 at Turnworth married Catherine Crankshaw dec quarter 1878 at Chorley and they had one son, Lucy baptized 31 Aug 1861 and buried 17 Apr 1862 at Turnworth, Jane and Martha (twins) baptized 31 Jul 1863 and buried 11 Dec 1863 at Turnworth, Edward and Eliza (twins) baptized 30 Oct 1865 and Edward buried 14 Nov 1865 and Eliza buried 18 May 1866 at Turnworth and Emma baptized 13 Nov 1866 and buried 7 Jan 1867 at Turnworth. Although Maria Jane (my great grandmother must have viewed all these deaths with great sadness not a word of that passed down through the family).
12. Martha baptized 21 Nov 1830 and married Abel Butt 8 Feb 1850 at Turnworth and they had 8 children: Jane baptized 12 Sep 1852 at Winterborne Stickland married George Christopher dec quarter 1869 Blandford RD and they had two children, George baptized 12 Jan 1855 at Winterborne Stickland married Maria Snape probably at Withnell Lancashire and they had three children, Eliza baptized 2 May 1858 Winterborne Stickland married George Brindle 28 Aug 1875 at Chorley RD and they had 8 children, Louisa bc 1861 Winterborne Stickland married James Rogers 1 Oct 1882 at Withnell and they had three children, Tabitha Ainsworth was baptized 21 Sep 1862 at Winterborne Stickland married William Stringfellow 1 Mar 1884 at Withness and they had 15 children, Emma baptized 16 Apr 1865 at Winterborne Stickland married Robert Woods 9 Jun 1883 at Withnell and they had 6 children, Lucy Elizabeth baptized 30 Aug 1868 at Winterborne Stickland married Douglas Heaton 1 Mar 1899 at Withnell, and Annie baptized 13 Aug 1871 at Winterborne Stickland married John Thomas Woods 10 Feb 1897 at Withnell and they had 3 children.
13. George Knight bc 1830 at Turnworth; died sep quarter 1852 Blandford RD.
With the availability of all the Dorset records (except Turnworth is missing for the moment) I shall verify all of these dates which I have received from other researchers and change any that are not correct both in my blog today and my Legacy file. I have both Find My Past and Ancestry to check for the available information.
I sorted through a number of the Dorset family records although none in my direct line and entered in baptismal dates and marriages dates/location. For the marriages I have just the registration district and these registrations give me the exact location.
Continue to extract records for the Knight family on my next research day for this family.
Monday, June 6, 2011
Piché family
Emelie Piché married Antoine Renaud 5 May 1862 at Grenville and her parents were identified as Louis Piché and Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt in the Renaud Family post. Louis Piché and Josette Bénoit dite Vaillancourt's marriage of 3 Sep 1839 at Ste Scholastique.
M 23 Louis Piché et Josette Benoit
Le trois sept le mil juit cent trente
neur après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite sans opposition aux
prones des deux paroissiales entre Louis
Piché journalier domicilié au cette paroisse
fils majeur de Louis Piché et de
Louise Perrault d'une part et Jo
sette Benoit fille mineure de Alexis Be
noit journalier et de défunte Charlotte
Beauchamp de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empeche
ment au dit mariage et la père de l'
____ y ai___ je pretre curé
soussigné ai reçu le mutuel consente
ment par paroles present et leur ai
donné la bénédiction nuptiale en pré
sence de Louis Piché père de l'époux de
____ _____ de Charles Piché
________ de
_____ Benoit ______
Lecture faite
F _orin Pretre
The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Louis Piché and Louise Perrault who were themselves married 6 Nov 1809 at St Benoit.
Le six novembre mil huit cent neuf après la publication de trois
bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes paroissiales par
trois dimanches consecutifs entre Louis Piché résident en cette
paroisse fils majeur de Pierre Piché et de marianne la
france ses père et mère de la paroisse de Ste Thérèse d'une
part et marie louise perrault fille mineure de Charles per
rault la be____ et de marie louise Normand ses père et mère
de cette paroisse d'autre part, sans découvir aucun empeche
ment ni opposition quelconque a leur futur mariage
nous soussigné pretre curé de cette paroisse vu le consentement
des parens a la _____ avoir reçu celui des parties contractantes
leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de
pierre piché père de l'époux, Basile Piché son frère
pierre payet, Charles perrault père de l'épouse, joseph
Norman ____ l'épouse, Charles normand son oncle
Jean Baptiste Normand son cousin et autres qui ont dé
clare ne savoir signer.
H Te__lix Pretre
The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Pierre Piché and Marianne LaFrance who were themselves married 2 Feb 1778 at Neuville (Portneuf).
Mariage p pichet et m anna lafrance
Le deux du mois de fevrier de l'année mil sept cent soixante et dix huit après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au prine des messes paroissiales
trois dimanches consecutifs entre pierre pichet fils de pierre pichet
et de marie Angelique Gignac ses pere et mere de la paroisse de la paroisse
de la sainte famille du cap Santé d'autre part et marie anna la France
fille de defunt francois lafrance et de defunte marie anna Bordeleau
ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part après avoir vu la certificat de monsieur
fillion curé du Cap Santé de la publication des trois bans de mariage en la
paroisse a trois dimanches consecutifs dispensé obtenu de Monseigneur
Levesque de Quebec du trois au quatorieme _____ de parents qui
le trouve entre les dits contractants ____ qu'il apparait par l'acte ___
n'aiant decouvert aucun autre empechement canonique n'y d'une
part n'y de l'autre nous avons reçus leur mutuel consentement
de mariage et leurs avons donnés la bénédiction nuptiale
selon l'usage prescrit par notre mère la Sainte Eglise Romaine
avec en presence de pierre pichet père de l'époux et d'adrien pichet
oncle de l'époux de louis gingras oncle de l'épouse
de plusieurs autres parents et amis les ____ ont signes les autres
ont declaré ne savoir signer de _____
marie lafrance [signed]
marie anna lafrance [signed]
jean gingras [signed]
louis gingras [signed]
fran_____
Charles T Bailly Pretre
The parents of Pierre Piché being thus identified as Pierre Pichet and Marie Angélique Gignac who were themselves married 10 Jan 1752 at Cap Santé. This marriage is in Tanguay as Pierre Pichet married to Marie-Angélique Jugnac. The parents of Pierre Pichet are named as Pierre Pichet and Scholastique Lesage who were married 24 Jul 1724 at Cap Santé (although Tanguay has only 1724 I did find their marriage lines). The parents of this Pierre are named as Adrien Pichet and Elisabeth Léveillé who were themselves married 22 Nov 1694 at Pointe aux Trembles. The parents of Adrien were identified as Pierre Pichet and Catherine Durand and they were married 25 Nov 1665 at Québec. Pierre's parents were married in France and he was born in France so he is the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.
Adrien Piché married to Elisabeth Léveillé is Generation 2. The present generation is also descended from a sister of Adrien named Marie Catherine Piché and she married Antoine Bordeleau 5 Mar 1696 at Neuville (Porneuf) and will also be in Generation 2.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Scholastique Lesage is Generation 3.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Angélique Gignac is Generation 4.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Anne Lafrance is Generation 5.
Louis Piche married to Marie Louise Perreault is Generation 6.
Louis Piché married to Josette Bénoit dit Vaillancourt is Generation 7. The present generation may also be descended from Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau 27 Nov 1837 at Ste Scholastique as their daughter Adélaide Piché married Jean Baptiste Nepveu 7 May 1860 at Grenville. I am still finding links between Jean Baptiste Nepveu married to Léa Audet dite Lapointe and the above couple Jean Baptiste Nepveu and Adélaide Piché and Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau is Generation 7.
Emelie Piché married to Antoine Renaud is Generation 8.
The next research day for the Piché family will continue to collect source documentation.
M 23 Louis Piché et Josette Benoit
Le trois sept le mil juit cent trente
neur après la publication de trois bans
de mariage faite sans opposition aux
prones des deux paroissiales entre Louis
Piché journalier domicilié au cette paroisse
fils majeur de Louis Piché et de
Louise Perrault d'une part et Jo
sette Benoit fille mineure de Alexis Be
noit journalier et de défunte Charlotte
Beauchamp de cette paroisse d'autre part
ne s'étant découvert aucun empeche
ment au dit mariage et la père de l'
____ y ai___ je pretre curé
soussigné ai reçu le mutuel consente
ment par paroles present et leur ai
donné la bénédiction nuptiale en pré
sence de Louis Piché père de l'époux de
____ _____ de Charles Piché
________ de
_____ Benoit ______
Lecture faite
F _orin Pretre
The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Louis Piché and Louise Perrault who were themselves married 6 Nov 1809 at St Benoit.
Le six novembre mil huit cent neuf après la publication de trois
bans de mariage faite au prone de nos messes paroissiales par
trois dimanches consecutifs entre Louis Piché résident en cette
paroisse fils majeur de Pierre Piché et de marianne la
france ses père et mère de la paroisse de Ste Thérèse d'une
part et marie louise perrault fille mineure de Charles per
rault la be____ et de marie louise Normand ses père et mère
de cette paroisse d'autre part, sans découvir aucun empeche
ment ni opposition quelconque a leur futur mariage
nous soussigné pretre curé de cette paroisse vu le consentement
des parens a la _____ avoir reçu celui des parties contractantes
leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de
pierre piché père de l'époux, Basile Piché son frère
pierre payet, Charles perrault père de l'épouse, joseph
Norman ____ l'épouse, Charles normand son oncle
Jean Baptiste Normand son cousin et autres qui ont dé
clare ne savoir signer.
H Te__lix Pretre
The parents of Louis Piché being thus identified as Pierre Piché and Marianne LaFrance who were themselves married 2 Feb 1778 at Neuville (Portneuf).
Mariage p pichet et m anna lafrance
Le deux du mois de fevrier de l'année mil sept cent soixante et dix huit après
la publication de trois bans de mariage faite au prine des messes paroissiales
trois dimanches consecutifs entre pierre pichet fils de pierre pichet
et de marie Angelique Gignac ses pere et mere de la paroisse de la paroisse
de la sainte famille du cap Santé d'autre part et marie anna la France
fille de defunt francois lafrance et de defunte marie anna Bordeleau
ses pere et mere de cette paroisse d'autre part après avoir vu la certificat de monsieur
fillion curé du Cap Santé de la publication des trois bans de mariage en la
paroisse a trois dimanches consecutifs dispensé obtenu de Monseigneur
Levesque de Quebec du trois au quatorieme _____ de parents qui
le trouve entre les dits contractants ____ qu'il apparait par l'acte ___
n'aiant decouvert aucun autre empechement canonique n'y d'une
part n'y de l'autre nous avons reçus leur mutuel consentement
de mariage et leurs avons donnés la bénédiction nuptiale
selon l'usage prescrit par notre mère la Sainte Eglise Romaine
avec en presence de pierre pichet père de l'époux et d'adrien pichet
oncle de l'époux de louis gingras oncle de l'épouse
de plusieurs autres parents et amis les ____ ont signes les autres
ont declaré ne savoir signer de _____
marie lafrance [signed]
marie anna lafrance [signed]
jean gingras [signed]
louis gingras [signed]
fran_____
Charles T Bailly Pretre
The parents of Pierre Piché being thus identified as Pierre Pichet and Marie Angélique Gignac who were themselves married 10 Jan 1752 at Cap Santé. This marriage is in Tanguay as Pierre Pichet married to Marie-Angélique Jugnac. The parents of Pierre Pichet are named as Pierre Pichet and Scholastique Lesage who were married 24 Jul 1724 at Cap Santé (although Tanguay has only 1724 I did find their marriage lines). The parents of this Pierre are named as Adrien Pichet and Elisabeth Léveillé who were themselves married 22 Nov 1694 at Pointe aux Trembles. The parents of Adrien were identified as Pierre Pichet and Catherine Durand and they were married 25 Nov 1665 at Québec. Pierre's parents were married in France and he was born in France so he is the emigrant ancestor and Generation 1.
Adrien Piché married to Elisabeth Léveillé is Generation 2. The present generation is also descended from a sister of Adrien named Marie Catherine Piché and she married Antoine Bordeleau 5 Mar 1696 at Neuville (Porneuf) and will also be in Generation 2.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Scholastique Lesage is Generation 3.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Angélique Gignac is Generation 4.
Pierre Piché married to Marie Anne Lafrance is Generation 5.
Louis Piche married to Marie Louise Perreault is Generation 6.
Louis Piché married to Josette Bénoit dit Vaillancourt is Generation 7. The present generation may also be descended from Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau 27 Nov 1837 at Ste Scholastique as their daughter Adélaide Piché married Jean Baptiste Nepveu 7 May 1860 at Grenville. I am still finding links between Jean Baptiste Nepveu married to Léa Audet dite Lapointe and the above couple Jean Baptiste Nepveu and Adélaide Piché and Pierre Piché married to Adélaide Pimparé dite Tourangeau is Generation 7.
Emelie Piché married to Antoine Renaud is Generation 8.
The next research day for the Piché family will continue to collect source documentation.
Sunday, June 5, 2011
Lambden at Andover and Stoke near St Mary Bourne
Although I knew by family lore information on Elizabeth Lambden (mother of my grandfather's grandmother) mostly because she lived to be 96 years old and worked as a shepherdess until her death; I have not been able to do much more than that with the Lambden family. Her father was Nathanael Lambden and he signed the marriage register as a witness for his daughter marrying Isaac Farmer. Family Lore has it that he was a wheelwright and I have not yet pursued that line of thought to find Nathanael.
The best fit for Nathanael (including the unusual spelling of his forename) is from the LDS
Nathanael Lambden
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Nathanael Lambden
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Jul 1724
baptism/christening place: BRADFIELD,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Jno Lambden
mother's name: Joan
indexing project (batch) number: C01789-2
source film number: 88193
Looking on FindMyPast
No new information for this Nathanael Lambden but I did find the burial of his son Nathaniel at Hurstbourne Tarrant 30 Jul 1817 and a baptism for a son of this Nathaniel named Nathaniel born 15 Jan and baptized 18 Jan 1795 Hurstbourne Tarrant and the son of Nathaniel and Catherine Lambden. They lived at Upper Clatford for a period of time.
St Mary Bourne is the most common place to find Lambden family members:
Baptisms:
Year Month Day Surname Forename Relationship Surname Forename Forename Occupation
1665 6 21 Lambden Dorons daughter Lambden Johannes
1676 6 20 Lambden Henry son Lambden Henricus
1683 6 19 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Henry Amy
1688 12 25 Lambden Amee daughter Lambden Thomas
1690 2 27 Lamden Thomas son Lambden Thomas
1711 11 18 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden John Mary
1714 7 3 Lamden Henry son Lamden Thomas Mary
1715 8 21 Lamden George son Lamden John Mary
1715 1 24 Lamden Thomas son Lambden Thomas Mary
1717 3 24 Lambden John son Lambden John Mary
1717 3 23 Lambden William son Lambden Thomas Mary
1721 12 25 Lambden Amey daughter Lambden Thomas Mary
1722 1 6 Lambden Joseph son Lambden John
1724 7 6 Lambden Timothy son Lambden Thomas Mary
1725 1 21 Lambden Thomas son Lambden John Martha
1751 8 15 Lambden John son Lambden George Mary
1752 12 24 Lambden Hannah daughter Lambden George Mary
1752 3 4 Lambden Timothy son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1753 4 22 Lambden William son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1754 5 12 Lambden George son Lambden George Mary
1755 5 20 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1756 10 6 Lambden Martha daughter Lambden George Mary
1757 4 17 Lambden Elizabeth daughter Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1759 2 16 Lambden Elisha daughter Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1759 4 8 Lambden Thomas son Lambden George Mary
1760 9 28 Lambden Isaac son Lambden Joseph Ann
1761 3 8 Lambden Henry son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1761 6 21 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden George Mary
1762 10 31 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden Joseph Sarah
1763 9 2 Lambden Timothy son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1764 11 11 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Joseph Sarah
1765 9 10 Lambden Joseph son Lambden George Mary
1766 1 12 Lambden Thomas son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1767 7 18 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden George Mary
1770 8 11 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden Timothy
1783 12 5 Lambden Amy base born daughter Tarrant Mary
1784 8 22 Lambden Chorlott base born daughter Lambden Mary
1784 8 22 Lambden William son Lambden Thomas Sarah
1786 7 13 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden Joseph Sarah
1786 12 31 Lambden Hanah daughter Lambden Isaac Hanah
1787 4 15 Lambden Thomas son Lambden Thomas Sarah
1788 7 27 Lambden Lucy daughter Lambden George Mary
1791 9 4 Lambden Elisabeth daughter Lambden Isaac Hanah
1792 4 1 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden Thomas Martha
1793 6 23 Lambden William son Lambden George Mary
1794 5 7 Lambden Harriot daughter Lambden Isaac Hanah
1794 6 29 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Thomas Martha
1796 7 24 lambden Chaorlette daughter Lambden George Mary
1799 12 31 Lambden George son Lambden George Mary
1799 4 21 Lambden Joseph son Lambden Thomas Martha
1802 8 8 Lamben Amy daughter Lamben George Mary
1803 1 16 Lambden Isaac son Lambden Thomas Martha
1805 9 15 Lambden Rachel daughter Lambden George Mary
1808 2 7 Lambden Henry son Lambden Thomas Martha
1810 8 5 Lambden Harriet daughter Lambden Thomas Martha
1817 11 9 Lambden Susannah daughter Lambden William Dinah Stoke Labourer
1818 3 23 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden William Mary Stoke Publican
1818 6 28 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden John Rebecca Stoke Labourer
1820 6 25 Lambden Charles son Lambden William Dinah Stoke Labourer
1821 2 14 Lambden Jane daughter Lambden William Mary Stoke Labourer
1823 3 2 Lambdon Charles son Lambdon William Dinah Stoke Labourer
1826 2 5 Lambdon William son Lambden William Dinah Labourer
1829 1 18 Lambdon Mary daughter Lambdon William Dinah Labourer
1832 6 10 Lambdin Thomas son Lambdin William Dinah Labourer
1834 5 18 Lambdin Elizabeth daughter Lambdin Isaac Hannah Labourer
Marriages:
Year Month Day Grooms Surname Grooms Forename Abode Brides Surname Brides Forename Abode Witness Witness
1675 Lambden Knight
1713 Lambden Burges
1749 Lambden Hopgood
1781 Lambden Siney
1787 Lambden Cook
1787 Lambden Lambden
1789 Lambden Ford
1799 Lambden Hall
1817 6 5 Lambden William Merryfield Mary Merryfield, John May, Thomas (Clerk)
1817 10 16 Lambden John Cooper Rebecca Cooper, Wm Merryfield, Ann
1833 6 13 Lambdin Isaac Watts Hannah Lambdin, Henry Lambdin, Harriet
Burials:
1675 5 26 Lambden John
1683 1 1 Lambden widower, affidavid from Mr. Smith of Inham 7 Jan 1683
1687 5 2 Lambden Silfester
1692 1 16 Lamden Thomas certified 20 Jan
1693 11 28 Lamden Amy senior, certified 2 Dec
1695 3 25 Lamden George certified 30 Mar
1699 5 12 Lamden Widow, certified 19 May
1705 11 28 Lamden Henry certified 4 Dec
1720 6 8 Lamden Amey
1721 11 11 Lambden Amey
1725 3 15 Lambden Mary widow
1728 10 3 Lambden John son Lambden Thomas Mary
1732 3 8 Lambden Darkes
1733 7 5 Lambdon John
1750 5 20 Lambden son Lambden Timothy
1750 1 22 Lambden Henry
1751 10 22 Lambden Thomas
1755 6 8 Lambden John son Lambden Henry
1755 8 5 Lambden Moses this was originally entered as Henry Lambden child
1755 7 27 Lambden Timothy
1756 1 16 Lambden wife Lambden Henry
1759 10 26 Lambden Elisha
1761 5 6 Lambden wife Lambden Joseph
1761 9 13 Lambden widow
1762 7 26 Lambden widow
1765 11 24 Lambden Joseph infant
1769 5 15 Lambden Mary
1770 8 15 Lambden Mary infant
1775 12 10 Lambden Henry
1778 3 29 Lambden Amy
1783 10 6 Lambden Elizabeth infant daughter Lambden Thomas Sarah
1788 5 29 Lambden Sarah wife Lambden Thomas
1788 6 23 Lambden Timothy
1794 3 18 Lambden Sarah wife Lambden Joseph
1799 8 11 Lambden Joseph
1807 6 21 Lambden George son Lambden George Mary
1807 4 16 Lambden Rachel daughter Lambden George Mary
1808 1 26 Lambden Lucy daughter Lambden George Mary
1808 12 12 Lambden Timothy age 84
1810 4 10 Lambden Elizabeth wife Lambden Timothy age 80
1815 8 20 Lambden Mary wife Lambden George Stoke age 54
1818 11 4 Lambden Jane wife Lambden Thomas Stoke age 72
1821 7 14 Lambden Thomas Stoke age 55
1824 7 29 Lambden Isaac Binley age 25
1826 3 20 Lambdon George age 71
1832 9 12 Lambdin William age 46
1833 1 31 Lambdin Thomas age 79
1833 4 5 Lambdin Thomas age 10 months
Next Research Day I have not yet decided what to do on the Lambden Family.
The best fit for Nathanael (including the unusual spelling of his forename) is from the LDS
Nathanael Lambden
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Nathanael Lambden
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Jul 1724
baptism/christening place: BRADFIELD,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Jno Lambden
mother's name: Joan
indexing project (batch) number: C01789-2
source film number: 88193
Looking on FindMyPast
No new information for this Nathanael Lambden but I did find the burial of his son Nathaniel at Hurstbourne Tarrant 30 Jul 1817 and a baptism for a son of this Nathaniel named Nathaniel born 15 Jan and baptized 18 Jan 1795 Hurstbourne Tarrant and the son of Nathaniel and Catherine Lambden. They lived at Upper Clatford for a period of time.
St Mary Bourne is the most common place to find Lambden family members:
Baptisms:
Year Month Day Surname Forename Relationship Surname Forename Forename Occupation
1665 6 21 Lambden Dorons daughter Lambden Johannes
1676 6 20 Lambden Henry son Lambden Henricus
1683 6 19 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Henry Amy
1688 12 25 Lambden Amee daughter Lambden Thomas
1690 2 27 Lamden Thomas son Lambden Thomas
1711 11 18 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden John Mary
1714 7 3 Lamden Henry son Lamden Thomas Mary
1715 8 21 Lamden George son Lamden John Mary
1715 1 24 Lamden Thomas son Lambden Thomas Mary
1717 3 24 Lambden John son Lambden John Mary
1717 3 23 Lambden William son Lambden Thomas Mary
1721 12 25 Lambden Amey daughter Lambden Thomas Mary
1722 1 6 Lambden Joseph son Lambden John
1724 7 6 Lambden Timothy son Lambden Thomas Mary
1725 1 21 Lambden Thomas son Lambden John Martha
1751 8 15 Lambden John son Lambden George Mary
1752 12 24 Lambden Hannah daughter Lambden George Mary
1752 3 4 Lambden Timothy son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1753 4 22 Lambden William son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1754 5 12 Lambden George son Lambden George Mary
1755 5 20 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1756 10 6 Lambden Martha daughter Lambden George Mary
1757 4 17 Lambden Elizabeth daughter Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1759 2 16 Lambden Elisha daughter Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1759 4 8 Lambden Thomas son Lambden George Mary
1760 9 28 Lambden Isaac son Lambden Joseph Ann
1761 3 8 Lambden Henry son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1761 6 21 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden George Mary
1762 10 31 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden Joseph Sarah
1763 9 2 Lambden Timothy son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1764 11 11 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Joseph Sarah
1765 9 10 Lambden Joseph son Lambden George Mary
1766 1 12 Lambden Thomas son Lambden Timothy Elizabeth
1767 7 18 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden George Mary
1770 8 11 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden Timothy
1783 12 5 Lambden Amy base born daughter Tarrant Mary
1784 8 22 Lambden Chorlott base born daughter Lambden Mary
1784 8 22 Lambden William son Lambden Thomas Sarah
1786 7 13 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden Joseph Sarah
1786 12 31 Lambden Hanah daughter Lambden Isaac Hanah
1787 4 15 Lambden Thomas son Lambden Thomas Sarah
1788 7 27 Lambden Lucy daughter Lambden George Mary
1791 9 4 Lambden Elisabeth daughter Lambden Isaac Hanah
1792 4 1 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden Thomas Martha
1793 6 23 Lambden William son Lambden George Mary
1794 5 7 Lambden Harriot daughter Lambden Isaac Hanah
1794 6 29 Lambden Sarah daughter Lambden Thomas Martha
1796 7 24 lambden Chaorlette daughter Lambden George Mary
1799 12 31 Lambden George son Lambden George Mary
1799 4 21 Lambden Joseph son Lambden Thomas Martha
1802 8 8 Lamben Amy daughter Lamben George Mary
1803 1 16 Lambden Isaac son Lambden Thomas Martha
1805 9 15 Lambden Rachel daughter Lambden George Mary
1808 2 7 Lambden Henry son Lambden Thomas Martha
1810 8 5 Lambden Harriet daughter Lambden Thomas Martha
1817 11 9 Lambden Susannah daughter Lambden William Dinah Stoke Labourer
1818 3 23 Lambden Ann daughter Lambden William Mary Stoke Publican
1818 6 28 Lambden Mary daughter Lambden John Rebecca Stoke Labourer
1820 6 25 Lambden Charles son Lambden William Dinah Stoke Labourer
1821 2 14 Lambden Jane daughter Lambden William Mary Stoke Labourer
1823 3 2 Lambdon Charles son Lambdon William Dinah Stoke Labourer
1826 2 5 Lambdon William son Lambden William Dinah Labourer
1829 1 18 Lambdon Mary daughter Lambdon William Dinah Labourer
1832 6 10 Lambdin Thomas son Lambdin William Dinah Labourer
1834 5 18 Lambdin Elizabeth daughter Lambdin Isaac Hannah Labourer
Marriages:
Year Month Day Grooms Surname Grooms Forename Abode Brides Surname Brides Forename Abode Witness Witness
1675 Lambden Knight
1713 Lambden Burges
1749 Lambden Hopgood
1781 Lambden Siney
1787 Lambden Cook
1787 Lambden Lambden
1789 Lambden Ford
1799 Lambden Hall
1817 6 5 Lambden William Merryfield Mary Merryfield, John May, Thomas (Clerk)
1817 10 16 Lambden John Cooper Rebecca Cooper, Wm Merryfield, Ann
1833 6 13 Lambdin Isaac Watts Hannah Lambdin, Henry Lambdin, Harriet
Burials:
1675 5 26 Lambden John
1683 1 1 Lambden widower, affidavid from Mr. Smith of Inham 7 Jan 1683
1687 5 2 Lambden Silfester
1692 1 16 Lamden Thomas certified 20 Jan
1693 11 28 Lamden Amy senior, certified 2 Dec
1695 3 25 Lamden George certified 30 Mar
1699 5 12 Lamden Widow, certified 19 May
1705 11 28 Lamden Henry certified 4 Dec
1720 6 8 Lamden Amey
1721 11 11 Lambden Amey
1725 3 15 Lambden Mary widow
1728 10 3 Lambden John son Lambden Thomas Mary
1732 3 8 Lambden Darkes
1733 7 5 Lambdon John
1750 5 20 Lambden son Lambden Timothy
1750 1 22 Lambden Henry
1751 10 22 Lambden Thomas
1755 6 8 Lambden John son Lambden Henry
1755 8 5 Lambden Moses this was originally entered as Henry Lambden child
1755 7 27 Lambden Timothy
1756 1 16 Lambden wife Lambden Henry
1759 10 26 Lambden Elisha
1761 5 6 Lambden wife Lambden Joseph
1761 9 13 Lambden widow
1762 7 26 Lambden widow
1765 11 24 Lambden Joseph infant
1769 5 15 Lambden Mary
1770 8 15 Lambden Mary infant
1775 12 10 Lambden Henry
1778 3 29 Lambden Amy
1783 10 6 Lambden Elizabeth infant daughter Lambden Thomas Sarah
1788 5 29 Lambden Sarah wife Lambden Thomas
1788 6 23 Lambden Timothy
1794 3 18 Lambden Sarah wife Lambden Joseph
1799 8 11 Lambden Joseph
1807 6 21 Lambden George son Lambden George Mary
1807 4 16 Lambden Rachel daughter Lambden George Mary
1808 1 26 Lambden Lucy daughter Lambden George Mary
1808 12 12 Lambden Timothy age 84
1810 4 10 Lambden Elizabeth wife Lambden Timothy age 80
1815 8 20 Lambden Mary wife Lambden George Stoke age 54
1818 11 4 Lambden Jane wife Lambden Thomas Stoke age 72
1821 7 14 Lambden Thomas Stoke age 55
1824 7 29 Lambden Isaac Binley age 25
1826 3 20 Lambdon George age 71
1832 9 12 Lambdin William age 46
1833 1 31 Lambdin Thomas age 79
1833 4 5 Lambdin Thomas age 10 months
Next Research Day I have not yet decided what to do on the Lambden Family.
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