The Pincombe family one name study is quickly gathering in a lot of autosomal DNA matches. I have cousins from two of my great grandfather William Robert Pincombe's siblings and perhaps another one or two not yet determined. I also have results from descendants for four of the siblings of my 2x great grandfather John Pincombe's. William Robert Pincombe was one of five siblings and John Pincombe was one of eight siblings. Going back one more generation I have results from descendants for three of my 3x great grandfather Robert Pincombe's siblings. Robert Pincombe was one of six siblings. The next generation back there were three siblings in that family and it would be very interesting to find descendants of both this level and the level one back from John Pincombe married to Grace Manning.
What is the value in all of this matching? For me it is the possibility of phasing my grandparents' DNA. It is a project which I started last year and it has gradually permitted me to fill in several chromosomes completely with a good deal of accuracy and to do possible arrangements on all of the rest of the chromosomes. Recently I had a strong match with an individual that included an X chromosome match. Because the X chromosome has been completed with a good deal of accuracy I was able to eliminate three of my grandparents and hone in on the particular grandparent with whom we shared a match. I hope especially to be able to do that with my maternal grandmother as her maternal line has a mysterious aspect to it. I have, by examining the paper trail, determined possible parents for her but finding matches would quite cement that fact.
Living DNA has pointed to my great grandmother, Ellen Taylor mother of my maternal grandmother, being of Northern Ireland/South West Scotland ancestry. This I had found in paper trails using our mitochondrial DNA matches. That doesn't give me surnames though and tracing Thomas Taylor back into Ireland does not prove to be particularly easy! I am fairly sure that his wife Ellen Roberts has a fairly long history in the Warwickshire area and that does show up in the percentage of DNA attributed to Northern Ireland/South West Scotland which is 4.8%. A great grandmother would share a variable amount between 0% and 12.5% with an average of 6.25%. Thomas Taylor was born in Birmingham (my possible 2x great grandfather) but the birthplace of his father Samuel Taylor is not as well known although he married in the Birmingham area where likewise the ancestry of his wife may or may not be from Ireland. I must admit I await the possibility of matching at Living DNA with a lot of enthusiasm if they ever do go that route as many of their customers are possibly from the British Isles.
Monday, August 28, 2017
Monday, August 21, 2017
Living DNA
My Living DNA results are in one month early. I have been especially interested in the mapping of my family in the British Isles since my father and three of my four grandparents were born in the British Isles as were their ancestors for many generations back as far as I am able to determine. My fourth grandparent's father was born in the British Isles and his mother's parents were both born in the British Isles. Indeed all of them were born in England itself and managed to have ancestry in a number of different counties including Devon, Somerset, Dorset, Wiltshire, Hampshire, Surrey, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, Leicestershire, East Riding of Yorkshire, Cumberland and Berkshire. A dozen counties in all so the application of the Peoples of the British Isles Project to my DNA could not be resisted. I have another test for one of my brothers and he and I are the least alike across the family so his results will also be very very interesting especially in comparison to my own.
Given the counties known to me, the following areas showed up in my DNA:
British Isles
South Central England 31.7%
Central England 14.6%
Devon 14.6%
Southeast England 7.2%
South Yorkshire 5.4%
Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 4.8%
Northumbria 4.0%
Northwest England 3.5%
North Yorkshire 3.5%
South England 2.7%
Aberdeenshire 2.5%
Lincolnshire 3.5%
Europe (North and West)
Scandinavia 3.5%
Were there any surprises? Looking at the results probably the amount of Scot/Irish ancestry was surprising. I already suspected Scot ancestry although think it is quite ancient coming to Ireland in the 1600s with the movement of the Planters to Northern Ireland from Ayrshire/Argyllshire. My mitochondrial DNA looking at the Blood of the Isles Database has matches in the Ayrshire/Argyllshire area. There are a number of matches in Northern Ireland for my mitochondrial DNA as well as movement to the Americas by the 1772 migration from County Antrim to the Carolinas. My own line likely made its way to England from Northern Ireland to the Midlands where my great grandmother Ellen Taylor (my mtDNA line) was born and is somewhat of a brick wall. The results were very illuminating in that regard as they verified my thoughts on that mitochondrial line although they are in truth autosomal results only! I would expect to inherit 12.5% from this great grandmother and the combination of Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland and Aberdeenshire constitute 7.3% (but Ellen was born in Birmingham to parents not yet firmly documented by me so I would only be looking at half of her ancestry with these thoughts in mind). Does the Scandinavian portion belong to Ellen Taylor; if yes, then the total would increase to 10.8%. The mutations attributed to my mtDNA include the thought that the trek of my ancient female ancestral line was through the Scandinavian Peninsula to Scotland from their resting spot in the Ukrania refuge during the last glacial maximum. It is hard to believe that that is the source of the Scandinavian DNA! but anything is possible with DNA.
My Buller family is known to have lived in Surrey which is Southeast England but also in the Midlands where my great grandfather Edwin Denner Buller was born (he married Ellen Taylor mentioned above). I am also suspicious that this Buller family may also have roots in the Yorkshire area hence helping to explain the large percentages mentioned in the paragraph below. I would expect to inherit 12.5% from this grandfather and the combination of Southeast England 7.25%, a portion of the Midlands (Central England) could be attributed to this line for sure and perhaps some Yorkshire which remains to be determined. Even the Lincolnshire portion could belong to this family. Linking my known 3x great grandfather Christopher Buller back to any particular Buller line is England has not yet occurred!
The North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire ancestry fits in well with my known Gray family which has its center in the areas around and north of Beverley in the East Riding of Yorkshire. The Sproxton family is perhaps my link back to North Yorkshire. Lincolnshire is to the south of the East Riding of Yorkshire and included in my thoughts on the Gray family. In total the three areas constitute 12.4% of my ancestry as depicted in this analysis. Grace Gray was my great grandmother (and her parents were Robert Gray from Etton, East Riding of Yorkshire and Elizabeth Mary Ann Routledge from Bewcastle, Cumberland) and I would expect to have inherited from her about 12.5% but this would include the DNA from her parents who each contribute 6.25%. Could I have inherited only DNA from the Gray family? Interesting thought actually although my matches tell me that I have inherited from the Routledge family as well.There does appear to be a lot of Northern England though including the portion Northwest England 3% which I will mention later.
The Devon is of course my 2x great grandfather John Pincombe who emigrated to Canada in 1850/51 with his wife (Elizabeth Rew of Selworthy Somerset) and their five children including my great grandfather William Robert Pincombe who married Grace Gray (my first Canadian born ancestor) and parents to my grandfather John Routledge Pincombe also born in Canada and my second Canadian born ancestor. His daughter, my mother, is my third Canadian born ancestor. According to these results I have inherited 14.6% Devon ancestry compared to the expected 12.5% from a great grandfather (William Robert Pincombe). I know that I have inherited from Elizabeth Rew (my 2x great grandmother from Selworthy Somerset) as I have matches with descendants of her siblings. But I am suspicious that her family also had roots in Devon. However a certain percentage of the South Central England would be attributed to Elizabeth Rew's contribution to my ancestry.
This covers my mother's side of the family and now I am left with the remainder to attribute to my father's donation to my DNA.
My father's lines all appear to be within about 50 kilometres of Andover, Hampshire. His father's parents were from Upper Clatford, Hampshire and Turnworth, Dorset. His mother's parents were from Kimpton, Hampshire (her mother for sure and her father likely). The South Central England 31.7%, Central England 14.6% and South England 2.7% will all definitely contribute to this ancestry but portions of it belong to the Rew family of Somerset and the Buller/Taylor families of the Midlands. I need 50% of my ancestry though from my Father and the total of these three items is only 49% and parts of them do likely belong to my mother's side. Does my father's side have a contribution from somewhere unknown to me or another possibility exists as the Blake family that my father is descended from moved to the London/Surrey area in the 1600s so a portion of that could belong to this family simply because the DNA moved there! The Northwest England portion is interesting in that some of my father's Dorset lines moved to this area to work in the mills and perhaps they are also showing up there. A mystery though this Northwest England portion other than being my Routledge family although Northumbria covers Bewcastle somewhat better than Northwest England.
All in all, I am very impressed with this analysis. It has picked up my thoughts on my maternal grandmother's mother; that she was Irish and Scot before that and given substance to that idea. The analysis also provided me with more thoughts on my Buller ancestry (my maternal grandmother's father's line). the mother's line of this great grandfather is well known to me in the Midlands back into the 1600s. But the Buller family does have a mysterious side to it beyond my 3x great grandfather born possibly in the London/Surrey area around 1764 using his death certificate to pinpoint his year of birth with the forename Christopher which is not that common in the Buller family. My known family lines dating back six to ten generations or more in particular areas is definitely showing up as predicted by their paper trail.
I await the results of my brother's test as his Genetic Communities on Ancestry has both a south England portion and a Midlands portion. My Genetic Communites there has just a south England portion (as does my other brother's test at Ancestry). On my father's side this brother has very strong Blake matches unlike myself as I resemble my grandmother Blake with excellent Rawlings matches.
Would I recommend this test; absolutely, it is interesting to see the results of the Peoples of the British Isles Project being used in such a constructive way. If there is eventually matching that could prove to be very interesting as well.
Given the counties known to me, the following areas showed up in my DNA:
British Isles
South Central England 31.7%
Central England 14.6%
Devon 14.6%
Southeast England 7.2%
South Yorkshire 5.4%
Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 4.8%
Northumbria 4.0%
Northwest England 3.5%
North Yorkshire 3.5%
South England 2.7%
Aberdeenshire 2.5%
Lincolnshire 3.5%
Europe (North and West)
Scandinavia 3.5%
Were there any surprises? Looking at the results probably the amount of Scot/Irish ancestry was surprising. I already suspected Scot ancestry although think it is quite ancient coming to Ireland in the 1600s with the movement of the Planters to Northern Ireland from Ayrshire/Argyllshire. My mitochondrial DNA looking at the Blood of the Isles Database has matches in the Ayrshire/Argyllshire area. There are a number of matches in Northern Ireland for my mitochondrial DNA as well as movement to the Americas by the 1772 migration from County Antrim to the Carolinas. My own line likely made its way to England from Northern Ireland to the Midlands where my great grandmother Ellen Taylor (my mtDNA line) was born and is somewhat of a brick wall. The results were very illuminating in that regard as they verified my thoughts on that mitochondrial line although they are in truth autosomal results only! I would expect to inherit 12.5% from this great grandmother and the combination of Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland and Aberdeenshire constitute 7.3% (but Ellen was born in Birmingham to parents not yet firmly documented by me so I would only be looking at half of her ancestry with these thoughts in mind). Does the Scandinavian portion belong to Ellen Taylor; if yes, then the total would increase to 10.8%. The mutations attributed to my mtDNA include the thought that the trek of my ancient female ancestral line was through the Scandinavian Peninsula to Scotland from their resting spot in the Ukrania refuge during the last glacial maximum. It is hard to believe that that is the source of the Scandinavian DNA! but anything is possible with DNA.
My Buller family is known to have lived in Surrey which is Southeast England but also in the Midlands where my great grandfather Edwin Denner Buller was born (he married Ellen Taylor mentioned above). I am also suspicious that this Buller family may also have roots in the Yorkshire area hence helping to explain the large percentages mentioned in the paragraph below. I would expect to inherit 12.5% from this grandfather and the combination of Southeast England 7.25%, a portion of the Midlands (Central England) could be attributed to this line for sure and perhaps some Yorkshire which remains to be determined. Even the Lincolnshire portion could belong to this family. Linking my known 3x great grandfather Christopher Buller back to any particular Buller line is England has not yet occurred!
The North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire ancestry fits in well with my known Gray family which has its center in the areas around and north of Beverley in the East Riding of Yorkshire. The Sproxton family is perhaps my link back to North Yorkshire. Lincolnshire is to the south of the East Riding of Yorkshire and included in my thoughts on the Gray family. In total the three areas constitute 12.4% of my ancestry as depicted in this analysis. Grace Gray was my great grandmother (and her parents were Robert Gray from Etton, East Riding of Yorkshire and Elizabeth Mary Ann Routledge from Bewcastle, Cumberland) and I would expect to have inherited from her about 12.5% but this would include the DNA from her parents who each contribute 6.25%. Could I have inherited only DNA from the Gray family? Interesting thought actually although my matches tell me that I have inherited from the Routledge family as well.There does appear to be a lot of Northern England though including the portion Northwest England 3% which I will mention later.
The Devon is of course my 2x great grandfather John Pincombe who emigrated to Canada in 1850/51 with his wife (Elizabeth Rew of Selworthy Somerset) and their five children including my great grandfather William Robert Pincombe who married Grace Gray (my first Canadian born ancestor) and parents to my grandfather John Routledge Pincombe also born in Canada and my second Canadian born ancestor. His daughter, my mother, is my third Canadian born ancestor. According to these results I have inherited 14.6% Devon ancestry compared to the expected 12.5% from a great grandfather (William Robert Pincombe). I know that I have inherited from Elizabeth Rew (my 2x great grandmother from Selworthy Somerset) as I have matches with descendants of her siblings. But I am suspicious that her family also had roots in Devon. However a certain percentage of the South Central England would be attributed to Elizabeth Rew's contribution to my ancestry.
This covers my mother's side of the family and now I am left with the remainder to attribute to my father's donation to my DNA.
My father's lines all appear to be within about 50 kilometres of Andover, Hampshire. His father's parents were from Upper Clatford, Hampshire and Turnworth, Dorset. His mother's parents were from Kimpton, Hampshire (her mother for sure and her father likely). The South Central England 31.7%, Central England 14.6% and South England 2.7% will all definitely contribute to this ancestry but portions of it belong to the Rew family of Somerset and the Buller/Taylor families of the Midlands. I need 50% of my ancestry though from my Father and the total of these three items is only 49% and parts of them do likely belong to my mother's side. Does my father's side have a contribution from somewhere unknown to me or another possibility exists as the Blake family that my father is descended from moved to the London/Surrey area in the 1600s so a portion of that could belong to this family simply because the DNA moved there! The Northwest England portion is interesting in that some of my father's Dorset lines moved to this area to work in the mills and perhaps they are also showing up there. A mystery though this Northwest England portion other than being my Routledge family although Northumbria covers Bewcastle somewhat better than Northwest England.
All in all, I am very impressed with this analysis. It has picked up my thoughts on my maternal grandmother's mother; that she was Irish and Scot before that and given substance to that idea. The analysis also provided me with more thoughts on my Buller ancestry (my maternal grandmother's father's line). the mother's line of this great grandfather is well known to me in the Midlands back into the 1600s. But the Buller family does have a mysterious side to it beyond my 3x great grandfather born possibly in the London/Surrey area around 1764 using his death certificate to pinpoint his year of birth with the forename Christopher which is not that common in the Buller family. My known family lines dating back six to ten generations or more in particular areas is definitely showing up as predicted by their paper trail.
I await the results of my brother's test as his Genetic Communities on Ancestry has both a south England portion and a Midlands portion. My Genetic Communites there has just a south England portion (as does my other brother's test at Ancestry). On my father's side this brother has very strong Blake matches unlike myself as I resemble my grandmother Blake with excellent Rawlings matches.
Would I recommend this test; absolutely, it is interesting to see the results of the Peoples of the British Isles Project being used in such a constructive way. If there is eventually matching that could prove to be very interesting as well.
Saturday, August 19, 2017
Arnold Family of Milton Abbas, Dorset
Recently a number of messages on a facebook website and later personal emails have left me with a few thoughts to ponder. Initially I had met the individual involved on the Dorset rootsweb mailing site (about ten years ago) and I had given to her my family tree as known to me for the Arnold family. In retrospect, I think she was just trying to get me to agree that a child born quite a bit later than the siblings of my Hannah Arnold was the illegitimate child of a younger sister of Hannah. I must admit that it crossed my mind but there really has never been any solid proof of that. Now with DNA it could certainly be proven or not as the case may be. My own line is as follows:
Myself, daughter of
Ernest Edward George Blake (b Eastleigh Hampshire England), son of
Samuel George Blake (b Upper Clatford Hampshire England), son of
Maria Jane Knight (b Turnworth Dorset England), daughter of
Louisa Butt (b Spetisbury Dorset England), daughter of
Hannah Arnold (b Winterborne Whitchurch Dorset England), daughter of
William Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
John Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
John Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
James Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
James Arnold
At that time the surname of William Arnold's wife was said to be Malton, Elizabeth Malton. Their marriage registration appears below:
It was this marriage registration that convinced me that the spelling of Elizabeth's surname was Molton. She has signed the marriage registration herself. Her husband William has also signed himself and he has managed to leave the d off of his surname. Nevertheless I believe that Elizabeth has given a hint to her ancestors with her signature.
Noting the "a" in Elizabeth and comparing it with the two vowels in the surname and I believe that these are both o's even though the priest has recorded the spelling of her name as Malton. I believe he is incorrect. I think we need to have our eyes open as we investigate our families. Her signature is clear and well formed like someone who writes often.
Because of her signature it was possible to find an Elizabeth Molton of Winterbourne Whitchurch (as mentioned in the registration). There isn't an Elizabeth Malton born in the correct time frame in this area. This was a brick wall for me before I found the marriage registration a few years ago.
Parents of Elizabeth appear to be William Molton (likely baptized 2nd August 1743 at Winterborne Whitchurch son of John Molton and Elizabeth Durden (married 12 Aug 1740 at Turnworth)) who married Sarah Seafear 5th January 1764 at Winterborne Clenstone. Sarah was buried 13th Jan 1799 at Winterborne Whitchurch. William Molton and Sarah (Seafear) Molton baptized five children all at Winterborne Whitchurch:
Thomas Molton baptized 11 Jun 1764 and buried 10th Feb 1765 at Winterborne Whitchurch
Elizabeth Molton baptized 20 Apr 1766
Stephen Molton baptized 12 Jan 1772
Jane Molton baptized 1 May 1774
William Molton baptized 7 Apr 1782
John Molton (likely baptized 20 Jul 1714 at Winterborne Whitchurch son of John and Elizabeth Molton) and Elizabeth Durden baptized the following children at Winterborne Whitchurch:
William Molton baptized 2 Aug 1743
Jane Molton baptized 2 Jun 1749
Robert Molton baptized 29 Nov 1753
John Molton baptized 18 Jan 1756
It is good to be helpful to each other in genealogy I think.
Myself, daughter of
Ernest Edward George Blake (b Eastleigh Hampshire England), son of
Samuel George Blake (b Upper Clatford Hampshire England), son of
Maria Jane Knight (b Turnworth Dorset England), daughter of
Louisa Butt (b Spetisbury Dorset England), daughter of
Hannah Arnold (b Winterborne Whitchurch Dorset England), daughter of
William Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
John Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
John Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
James Arnold (b Milton Abbas Dorset England), son of
James Arnold
At that time the surname of William Arnold's wife was said to be Malton, Elizabeth Malton. Their marriage registration appears below:
It was this marriage registration that convinced me that the spelling of Elizabeth's surname was Molton. She has signed the marriage registration herself. Her husband William has also signed himself and he has managed to leave the d off of his surname. Nevertheless I believe that Elizabeth has given a hint to her ancestors with her signature.
Noting the "a" in Elizabeth and comparing it with the two vowels in the surname and I believe that these are both o's even though the priest has recorded the spelling of her name as Malton. I believe he is incorrect. I think we need to have our eyes open as we investigate our families. Her signature is clear and well formed like someone who writes often.
Because of her signature it was possible to find an Elizabeth Molton of Winterbourne Whitchurch (as mentioned in the registration). There isn't an Elizabeth Malton born in the correct time frame in this area. This was a brick wall for me before I found the marriage registration a few years ago.
Parents of Elizabeth appear to be William Molton (likely baptized 2nd August 1743 at Winterborne Whitchurch son of John Molton and Elizabeth Durden (married 12 Aug 1740 at Turnworth)) who married Sarah Seafear 5th January 1764 at Winterborne Clenstone. Sarah was buried 13th Jan 1799 at Winterborne Whitchurch. William Molton and Sarah (Seafear) Molton baptized five children all at Winterborne Whitchurch:
Thomas Molton baptized 11 Jun 1764 and buried 10th Feb 1765 at Winterborne Whitchurch
Elizabeth Molton baptized 20 Apr 1766
Stephen Molton baptized 12 Jan 1772
Jane Molton baptized 1 May 1774
William Molton baptized 7 Apr 1782
John Molton (likely baptized 20 Jul 1714 at Winterborne Whitchurch son of John and Elizabeth Molton) and Elizabeth Durden baptized the following children at Winterborne Whitchurch:
William Molton baptized 2 Aug 1743
Jane Molton baptized 2 Jun 1749
Robert Molton baptized 29 Nov 1753
John Molton baptized 18 Jan 1756
It is good to be helpful to each other in genealogy I think.
Monday, July 31, 2017
H11 Newsletter, Volume 1, Issue 3, 2017
H11 Newsletter
Table of Contents
1. Background
2. FT DNA Project
3. Project Statistics
4. Family Finder
5. Upgrading of reports by FT DNA
6. Recent publication – The Genetic History of Northern Europe, Mittnik et al
7. Blood of the Isles Database – Dr. Bryan Sykes
8. Genetic Genealogy in Practice, Blaine T Bettinger and Debbie Parker Wayne
1. FT DNA Project:
There are now 236 members in our H11 project. Full sequence results are completed on 208 members of the group. Interestingly 163 members of this group have also done Family Finder. Unfortunately it is not possible to visually look at the Family Finder results as that would compromise the privacy of individuals. However, you can look at your matches in Family Finder.
2. Project Statistics (yDNA statistics removed):
Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded 46
DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups 16
Family Finder 163
Genographic 2.0 Transfers 18
Maternal Ancestor Information 203
mtDNA 219
mtDNA Full Sequence 208
mtDNA Plus 216
mtDNA Subgroups 22
Total Members 236
Unreturned Kits 8
3. The latest release of the phylotree used by FT DNA was dated 18 Feb 2016:
H11 breakdown in the PhyloTree mt:
Within the study group we have members in every sub-haplogroup except H11a5 (and it can be seen in the chart above that the mutation C15040T marks this subgrouping).
http://www.phylotree.org/tree/R0.htm *
*van Oven M, Kayser M. 2009. Updated comprehensive phylogenetic tree of global human mitochondrial DNA variation. Hum Mutat 30(2):E386-E394. http://www.phylotree.org.
doi:10.1002/humu.20921
4. National Geographic Project Update:
Branch: H11
Age: 10,800 +/- 7,300 Years Ago
Location of Origin: Europe
During the last glacial maximum members of this lineage took shelter in refugia within Europe. As the ice melted, these groups moved across Europe, resettling.
Today, this lineage is present most often in the Netherlands, where it is about 3% of maternal lineages. It comprises 2% of the population in Austria, Poland, and Denmark. Elsewhere in Europe, it is present in low frequencies around 1%. Note is also made that this branch is not accompanied by a major movement on their map and research on this branch is continuing.
Source: National Genographic Project
5. Breakdown by subclade in the project including “resting spot” as noted by contributor:
H11: Sweden - 2, Scotland – 1, Norway – 1, Croatia – 1
H11-C16354T: Scotland – 1, Netherlands – 1
H11a-T152C: Norway – 3, Germany – 1
H11a: England 0 3, Estonia – 1, Sweden – 6, Ireland – 6, Italy – 1, Eastern Europe – 2, Scotland – 1, Finland – 4, France – 2, Norway – 1, Poland – 1, Russia – 2, Germany – 3
H11a1: Sweden – 6, Italy 1, Eastern Europe – 2, Scotland – 2, Finland – 9, Poland – 2, Lithuania – 2, Russia – 5, Germany – 4
H11a2: England – 2, Italy – 1, Eastern Europe – 2, Finland – 4, Greece – 1
H11a2a: Sweden – 4
H11a2a1: England – 4, Sweden – 1, Eastern Europe – 1, Russia – 2
H11a2a2: Finland – 2, Russia – 3, Poland – 3, Central Europe – 3
H11a2a3: Eastern Europe - 1, Lithuania -1
H11a3: No place of origin mentioned
H11a6: No place of origin mentioned
H11a7: England – 1, Ireland – 1, Scotland – 1
H11a8: England – 1, France – 1,
H11b: Lithuania – 1
H11b1: Sweden – 1, Eastern Europe – 1, Poland – 2, Russia – 1, Germany 3, Serbia – 1
An interesting way to look at the material in each project. Looking at the results it does perhaps give assistance to those still looking for the location from which their ancestor may have traveled in the case of people in the Western Hemisphere but nearly half of the members of our project live in Europe. I think the project will need to be much larger to really give any geographic location for particular subclades.
Any submissions to this newsletter can be submitted to Elizabeth Kipp (kippeeb@rogers.com).
Table of Contents
1. Background
2. FT DNA Project
3. Project Statistics
4. Family Finder
5. Upgrading of reports by FT DNA
6. Recent publication – The Genetic History of Northern Europe, Mittnik et al
7. Blood of the Isles Database – Dr. Bryan Sykes
8. Genetic Genealogy in Practice, Blaine T Bettinger and Debbie Parker Wayne
1. FT DNA Project:
There are now 236 members in our H11 project. Full sequence results are completed on 208 members of the group. Interestingly 163 members of this group have also done Family Finder. Unfortunately it is not possible to visually look at the Family Finder results as that would compromise the privacy of individuals. However, you can look at your matches in Family Finder.
2. Project Statistics (yDNA statistics removed):
Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded 46
DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups 16
Family Finder 163
Genographic 2.0 Transfers 18
Maternal Ancestor Information 203
mtDNA 219
mtDNA Full Sequence 208
mtDNA Plus 216
mtDNA Subgroups 22
Total Members 236
Unreturned Kits 8
3. The latest release of the phylotree used by FT DNA was dated 18 Feb 2016:
H11 breakdown in the PhyloTree mt:
Within the study group we have members in every sub-haplogroup except H11a5 (and it can be seen in the chart above that the mutation C15040T marks this subgrouping).
http://www.phylotree.org/tree/R0.htm *
*van Oven M, Kayser M. 2009. Updated comprehensive phylogenetic tree of global human mitochondrial DNA variation. Hum Mutat 30(2):E386-E394. http://www.phylotree.org.
doi:10.1002/humu.20921
4. National Geographic Project Update:
Branch: H11
Age: 10,800 +/- 7,300 Years Ago
Location of Origin: Europe
During the last glacial maximum members of this lineage took shelter in refugia within Europe. As the ice melted, these groups moved across Europe, resettling.
Today, this lineage is present most often in the Netherlands, where it is about 3% of maternal lineages. It comprises 2% of the population in Austria, Poland, and Denmark. Elsewhere in Europe, it is present in low frequencies around 1%. Note is also made that this branch is not accompanied by a major movement on their map and research on this branch is continuing.
Source: National Genographic Project
5. Breakdown by subclade in the project including “resting spot” as noted by contributor:
H11: Sweden - 2, Scotland – 1, Norway – 1, Croatia – 1
H11-C16354T: Scotland – 1, Netherlands – 1
H11a-T152C: Norway – 3, Germany – 1
H11a: England 0 3, Estonia – 1, Sweden – 6, Ireland – 6, Italy – 1, Eastern Europe – 2, Scotland – 1, Finland – 4, France – 2, Norway – 1, Poland – 1, Russia – 2, Germany – 3
H11a1: Sweden – 6, Italy 1, Eastern Europe – 2, Scotland – 2, Finland – 9, Poland – 2, Lithuania – 2, Russia – 5, Germany – 4
H11a2: England – 2, Italy – 1, Eastern Europe – 2, Finland – 4, Greece – 1
H11a2a: Sweden – 4
H11a2a1: England – 4, Sweden – 1, Eastern Europe – 1, Russia – 2
H11a2a2: Finland – 2, Russia – 3, Poland – 3, Central Europe – 3
H11a2a3: Eastern Europe - 1, Lithuania -1
H11a3: No place of origin mentioned
H11a6: No place of origin mentioned
H11a7: England – 1, Ireland – 1, Scotland – 1
H11a8: England – 1, France – 1,
H11b: Lithuania – 1
H11b1: Sweden – 1, Eastern Europe – 1, Poland – 2, Russia – 1, Germany 3, Serbia – 1
An interesting way to look at the material in each project. Looking at the results it does perhaps give assistance to those still looking for the location from which their ancestor may have traveled in the case of people in the Western Hemisphere but nearly half of the members of our project live in Europe. I think the project will need to be much larger to really give any geographic location for particular subclades.
Any submissions to this newsletter can be submitted to Elizabeth Kipp (kippeeb@rogers.com).
Monday, July 3, 2017
Blake Newsletter, Volume 6, Issue 3, 2017
Blake
Newsletter Volume 6, Issue 3, 2017
Table
of Contents
1.
Blake Surname Study - Progress
2.
Blake DNA Study at FT DNA
3.
Andover, Hampshire, England Parish
Registers
4.
Galway Blake family yDNA study
1.
Blake Surname Study – Progress
I continue working on the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury Wills (and some from different County Record Offices) but have had a
short hiatus due to the OGS Conference 2017 which was a great success. I will
be returning to blogging wills very shortly. I have had a number of interesting
emails querying various Blake lines which I have not yet attended to but hope
to do that again in the next couple of weeks. I appreciate your emails but they
sometimes take me a while to answer as I know most about my own Blake line in
Andover Hampshire.
2.
Blake DNA Study at FT DNA
The Blake DNA study continues to attract new members
but does need to grow considerably larger before it will benefit the members of
the study. I will try to write up the results of this study in a way that
protects everyone’s anonymity but does make some use of the interesting results
that are arising. (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/blake?iframe=yresults)
I do need to have a family tree to go with new
members and would mention that here. I will not share your trees with others
unless you specifically give me such consent. In the next issue I will have
more to write about the yDNA study although it is still too small to really
draw any strong conclusions except on a very limited basis.
3.
Andover, Hampshire, England Parish
Registers
Andover, Hampshire, England has often been said to be
the “home of the Blakes” when I have been writing to people in Hampshire
through the years. When I decided to transcribe the Parish Registers of Andover
I was surprised to find that yes there are a number of Blake entries but there
are far more Blake entries in Parish Registers in other parts of England. I
will begin publishing the Blake family records in the Andover Parish Registers
in this Newsletter with this issue (baptisms, with marriages and burials to
follow). These records are taken from fiche which have scans of the original
parish registers. The registers for baptism begin in 1589 and have provided me
with a lot of details on the Blake family in Andover in the late 1500s.
|
Surname
|
Forename
|
status
|
M Surname
|
M Forename
|
F Surname
|
F Forename
|
Year
|
Month
|
Day
|
Comments |
|
Blake
|
Eliner
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
1589
|
May
|
23
|
|||
|
Blake
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Roberd
|
1589
|
May
|
31
|
||||
|
Blake
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
1592
|
April
|
25
|
||||
|
Blake
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1592
|
April
|
29
|
||||
|
Blake
|
Roberd
|
son
|
Blake
|
Roberd
|
1593
|
July
|
28
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
son
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
1593
|
September
|
30
|
|||
|
Blake
|
….e
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1594
|
November
|
23
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Peter
|
son
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
1596
|
July
|
25
|
|||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1596
|
August
|
24
|
of Pewsie
|
||
|
Blake
|
Joan
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
1596
|
October
|
17
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Augustine
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1598
|
December
|
19
|
|||
|
Blake
|
son
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
1598
|
February
|
21
|
||||
|
Blake
|
Roberd
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1600
|
March
|
14
|
|||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
Ritchard
|
1601
|
October
|
25
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Peter
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1603
|
April
|
11
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Nicholas
|
son
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1603
|
March
|
8
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
1607
|
May
|
3
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
son
|
Blake
|
William
|
1608
|
November
|
21
|
Junior
|
||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
1610
|
March
|
10
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Joane
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
1612
|
October
|
16
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Anne
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1614
|
April
|
||||
|
Blake
|
Dorothy
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
1615
|
August
|
8
|
|||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1615
|
August
|
9
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Sara
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1617
|
May
|
11
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Peter
|
son
|
Blake
|
William
|
1619
|
April
|
6
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1620
|
November
|
12
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Nicholas
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1620
|
November
|
12
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
1620
|
February
|
22
|
|||||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
Henry
|
1622
|
May
|
4
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Martha
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1622
|
October
|
13
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Rebecca
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
1623
|
February
|
24
|
|||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1624
|
November
|
1
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Nicholas
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1625
|
February
|
25
|
of Eastown
|
||
|
Blake
|
Jone
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Robertt
|
1626
|
July
|
1
|
of Fox.tt
|
||
|
Blake
|
Dority
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
1627
|
November
|
14
|
of Woodhouse
|
||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1629
|
April
|
9
|
of Estowntown
|
||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
Edward
|
1630
|
September
|
19
|
of Foxcot
|
||
|
Blake
|
Dorothy
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Peeter
|
1630
|
February
|
10
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Peetter
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1631
|
June
|
5
|
of Eastowntown
|
||
|
Blake
|
Peeter
|
son
|
Blake
|
Edward
|
1632
|
June
|
25
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Dorothy
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1633
|
September
|
24
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Edward
|
1633
|
March
|
19
|
of Foxcott
|
||
|
Blake
|
Jane
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1634
|
November
|
18
|
|||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1634
|
January
|
6
|
|||
|
Blake
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1636
|
August
|
2
|
||||
|
Blake
|
Sara
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1637
|
July
|
13
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Nicholos
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1637
|
August
|
1
|
|||
|
Blake
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
"old" Mr. William
|
1639
|
October
|
10
|
||||
|
Blake
|
Ann
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. Richard
|
1639
|
March
|
10
|
|||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1643
|
Jul
|
24
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Rebecka
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
1644
|
June
|
22
|
|||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1644
|
August
|
22
|
Senior Essenton
|
||
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. Richard
|
1644
|
November
|
14
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Joana
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
1645
|
July
|
1
|
|||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1647
|
August
|
9
|
baptized at Penton home
|
||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr.
William
|
1649
|
May
|
10
|
of
Penton
|
||
|
Blake
|
Bridgatt
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr.
William
|
1649
|
September
|
baptized
in West Penton house [not infant]
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Blake
|
Mr. William
|
1655
|
September
|
8
|
Essinton
|
||||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
William
|
1657
|
January
|
29
|
W Penton
|
||
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
1661
|
May
|
3
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
1664
|
June
|
6
|
Foxcote
|
||
|
Blake
|
Ann
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
1665
|
March
|
26
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Peeter
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. Peeter
|
1666
|
March
|
27
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. Peeter
|
1667
|
August
|
27
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Sarah
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Peeter
|
1669
|
April
|
24
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
son
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1671
|
July
|
11
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
1676
|
February
|
21
|
|||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. Richard
|
1682
|
July
|
11
|
|||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1684
|
February
|
6
|
||
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1685
|
February
|
21
|
||
|
Blake
|
Margaret
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1687
|
January
|
8
|
||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1689
|
December
|
16
|
||
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1691
|
November
|
23
|
||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1693
|
January
|
8
|
||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1695
|
May
|
3
|
||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1695
|
October
|
27
|
||
|
Blake
|
Sarah
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1696
|
March
|
10
|
||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1698
|
January
|
9
|
||
|
Blake
|
Lydea
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1699
|
April
|
25
|
||
|
Blake
|
Joannah
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1700
|
February
|
12
|
||
|
Blake
|
Ann
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1701
|
August
|
22
|
||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1702
|
December
|
21
|
||
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1702
|
March
|
24
|
||
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr. Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1704
|
July
|
17
|
||
|
Blake
|
Ann
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Elizabeth
|
1706
|
March
|
29
|
||
|
Blake
|
Hannah
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Mr. Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1706
|
June
|
10
|
||
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
son
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
Mary
|
1709
|
May
|
4
|
||
|
Blake
|
James
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mr.
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1710
|
April
|
17
|
||
|
Blake
|
Edward
|
son
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1711
|
August
|
12
|
in private and brought to Church
September the 22nd
|
|
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
son
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1714
|
July
|
2
|
||
|
Blake
|
Jane
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
Elizabeth
|
1717
|
July
|
22
|
||
|
Blake
|
John
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Mary
|
1727
|
November
|
19
|
||
|
Blake
|
Robert
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Mary
|
1729
|
November
|
15
|
||
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
son
|
Blake
|
thomas
|
Ann
|
1730
|
October
|
21
|
||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Mary
|
1730
|
January
|
25
|
||
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
son
|
Blake
|
Thomas
|
1734
|
September
|
19
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Ann
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
Mary
|
1735
|
August
|
14
|
||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
Elizabeth
|
1738
|
April
|
17
|
||
|
Blake
|
Moses
|
son
|
Blake
|
John
|
Frances
|
1738
|
September
|
8
|
||
|
Blake
|
James
|
son
|
Blake
|
Edward
|
Ann
|
1740
|
November
|
25
|
||
|
Blake
|
Nanny
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Richard
|
Ann
|
1742
|
March
|
23
|
||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
Mary
|
1744
|
October
|
29
|
||
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
Mary
|
1746
|
March
|
11
|
||
|
Blake
|
Betty
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
John
|
Mary
|
1747
|
October
|
7
|
||
|
Blake
|
Abraham
|
bastard son
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
1749
|
March
|
27
|
|||
|
Blake
|
Ann
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
Mary
|
1749
|
December
|
20
|
||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
Joseph
|
Mary
|
1750
|
September
|
28
|
||
|
Blake
|
Elizabeth
|
daughter
|
Blake
|
William
|
Mary
|
1752
|
January
|
22
|
||
|
Blake
|
Isaac Leeds
|
son
|
Blake
|
Mary
|
1754
|
September
|
4
|
reputed father John Leeds
|
||
|
Blake
|
William
|
son
|
Blake
|
William
|
Mary
|
1754
|
October
|
10
|
||
4.
The Galway Blake Family yDNA study
I had intended to do a writeup on the Galway Blake
Family yDNA Study but time has once again escaped me. I will attempt to do that
for the October Issue. Gardening will be winding down, the sun sets earlier so
hopefully I will find the time to work on the writeup. Apologies for that delay.
Elizabeth Kipp, kippeeb@rogers.com
Member #4600: Guild of one name studies
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