Monday, January 13, 2025

Extracting atDNA results

I have over 50 atDNA new matches thus far at My Heritage and I have not completed my review. Basically I have done very little extracting for over three years and there are an incredible number of matches since then. I have kept Ancestry up to date because I do use it differently from the others. 

Cleaning day today and it is the basement so just a couple of hours for that. Another light snowfall but everyone counts especially if it stays. We need at least 1 metre of standing snow in the yard or it will be much too dry even in May. 

Some thought on the le Blak/le Blake family but no new work particularly. I will begin again on Wednesday. I am rather excited about this topic not so much from a personal viewpoint but more historical and merging the family lore with the historical documents that I have at hand and if I find any interesting ones I will order them. I will transcribe the Pedigree Chart in small chunks just for interest sake. The first image once again:


 The section in the heading I have blogged on Friday. https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/2342279612016799190/7188211707290866960

 The three sets of data moving across the first row beneath the heading:


The set of circles on the left hand side are for Edward Baynard of Essex Esq[uie]r and Eleanor Blewet da[ughte]r and heir of Sir John Blewet of Lackham in Count[ie] Wilts[hire] Esq[uier]r Kn[igh]t; the middle set for Richard Blague als Blaake of Wilts[hire] Esq[uie]r temp Ed[ward] I and Ed[ward] II and Anne daughter of William Cole, and the right hand side Edward Dorrant Es.....gent and ..... daughter of ...... . The coats of arms left to right - Baynard, Blewet, Blake, Cole, Dorrant, blank.

The text in between the circles on the left: Sir J Bluet [Blewet] had besides Lackham Divers other Mannors both in Essex and HamShr as appears by Inquis[ition], taken after the death of Eleanor his wife scilt 22 Ed 3 12 30 remaining in the Tower of Lond[on].

An interesting item found in British-History.ac.uk online referring to this post mortem [Citation: J. E. E. S. Sharp, E. G. Atkinson, J. J. O'Reilly, G. J. Morris, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 89', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 9, Edward III( London, 1916), British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol9/pp80-95 [accessed 13 January 2025].  and it is #104 in this file labeled 89.

     C. Edw. III. File 89. (25.)
104.     ELEANOR, LATE THE WIFE OF JOHN BLUET.
    Writ, 13 November, 22 Edward III.
SOUTHAMPTON.     Inq. taken at Basyngestok on Thursday after St. Andrew, 22 Edward II.
    Shilchestre. The manor (extent given), held jointly with John, sometime her husband, by fine levied in the king’s court, to hold to them and the heirs of the said John, of Richard Talibot and Elizabeth his wife, as of the right of the said Elizabeth, one of the heirs of Aymer (Emerici) de Valenciis, earl of Pembroke, by service of a knight’s fee. She held no other lands &c. in the county.
She died on Tuesday the feast of SS. Simon and Jude, 22 Edward III. Eleanor, the wife of Edmund Baynard, aged 30 years and more, and Peter, son of William de Cusaunce and Margaret his wife, sister of the said Eleanor, who is aged 19 3/4 years, are the heirs of the said John Bluet and Eleanor his wife. 

This Pedigree does contain many accurate facts taken from the records which includes this item with the only questionable section the 12 30 after 22 Ed 3 (should it have been 13 11 since the writ has the date 13 November, 22 Edward III?). The scllt is a guess only at the transcription and perhaps refers to the text that follows. 

The text in between the circles on the right: R Blake gave certain Lands in Essex to the Knights Templar in the Reign of King Edw I which may be seen by the Records in the Tower of London _ilt Esc[h]aetr 31 Ed 1 no 77

An interesting item found in the National Archives of the UK: C 143/4/23 dated 31 Edward I. Roger le Blake of Madebrook to grant land in Eastwood to the master and Brethren of the Knights Templars in England, retaining a cottage and land in Thundersley and Eastwood. Essex’ C 143/4/23 with date 31 Edward I.

I did look through this entire set of documents C 143 when I visited Kew and this was the only one that dealt with the grant of land by a Blake to the Knights Templar (I also searched the catalogue (Discovery) at the National Archives). Up until this point in time I had accepted the Pedigree as correct but at that point I began to question some of the items that appear on the chart because of this erroneous use of the record dealing with Roger le Blake of Madebrook, Herefordshire (presumably a property in Madley, Herefordshire perhaps I was not able to locate Madebrook other than as a extant restaurant by that name). 

The Baynard family is well known historically and the descent that follows for this family down to the marriage of Anne Blake to Robert Baynard can all be located in the records as one will see during this examination of the Pedigree Chart. The crests belonging to the Baynard and Blewet/Bluet can also be found in the records.

The Dorrant family  crest does appear in the coat of arms online at the House of Arms. This entry states that the surname (patronymic) came to England following or at the same time as the Norman Conquest and is an Old French personal name. I did not find Edward Dorrant mentioned on this page although he would have lived in the time of Henry III, Edward I-II possibly which is between 1216-1272 (Henry III), 1272-1307 (Edward I), 1307-1327 (Edward II). The oldest record for a Dorrant at the National Archives of the UK was from the 1400s. There were three for Durrant in the 1300s (and they appear to be a Scots family of Dumfriesshire). A single record for a John Durant in Essex between 1100 - 1603. I decided to subscribe to British History On Line and will pursue this look at the Durrant/Dorrant family. 

The Blake family Crest is the ancient crest generally used by this family but its origin is unknown. One does not find this particular crest in the House of Names. The Cole family crest is the usual one for this family. However the only marriage I have been able to locate between a Robert Blake and Anne Cole was in 1330 and I will have a longer look this time at the location of that reference. 

The question in mind is Richard Blague/Blake at the top of the chart said to be of Wiltshire and the next step is to put a date on this entry referred to although known to belong to a Roger Blake. The Date of the item referring to the land grant is known - 31 Ed I. A regnal date and this means the 31st year of the reign of Edward I of England - his reign began 20 Nov 1272 so the 31st year was 1303 commencing 20 Nov until 19 Nov 1304 - I will check the original record to see if there was a month and day. The date though is very interesting as it would place Richard Blake in Wiltshire at this time. There was a Richard le Blak at Wargrave, Berkshire on the 1301 Pipe Rolls. I need to have a look at the Berkshire Archives once again but I will sign up for British History On-Line as there were likely be more helpful data from these early years.

Must get on to the cleaning. Breakfast completed.




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